I mean, g'wan ahead and do you. Makes sense, really, considering Prince never said boo about dating any of these women. And frankly, none of these women come out and say "oh yeah of course we dated" anymore either. Check what Andy and Judith have said - noncommittal vagueness. Prince claimed no women after Mani and that's a fact.
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In the 2010 Ebony magazine interview/ cover story, he introduced Bria as his "girlfriend". Mumio said:
I mean, g'wan ahead and do you. Makes sense, really, considering Prince never said boo about dating any of these women. And frankly, none of these women come out and say "oh yeah of course we dated" anymore either. Check what Andy and Judith have said - noncommittal vagueness. Prince claimed no women after Mani and that's a fact.
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TwiliteKid said: I think it's cute that you all think his songs were about real life. Maybe in the early days, but you really think he had women doing him wrong left and right all the way to the end? Prince was not a confessional songwriter. WHAT? The Breakdown Way back Home The entire P&M concert tour. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. | |
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There is only one person: Denise Matthews/Vanity The only potential challenger to her throne was Judith Hill. And Judith like Rocky Balboa had virtually no chance. But also like Rocky Balboa she went the distance and did everything a person could to make him forget. She even pulled him back from the brink of death for a second chance but he didn't take it.
Lyrics: ‘If I had some magic, I could set you free. I’d make you not love her anymore as much as you love me’ and ‘If I had the power to travel back in time to the day the both the two of you met and somehow make you mine.’ The words say why Prince left Judith. Denise Matthews/Vanity got there first and he can’t forget her. But Judith unlike any of the seat fillers got to equal love.
Imagery: Prince is responsible for the imagery. I believe Prince has seen Judith as a perfected Vanity on one hand and an anti-Vanity on the other. He has learned the lessons of Vanity/Denise Matthews. Prince is setting Judith free, washing the Vanity, in his mind, taint from her giving her to the world. This is Judith's goodbye letter (yes, Prince's death was a suicide). He is saying even though he is no longer with Judith physically he is still with her spiritually. Also they must see interviews were he said the following:
Prince was interviewed on December 10, 2010 on NYC radio station 107.5. He stated: “The music pretty much speaks for me. I’m pretty open with my music, I always have been, so you’re going to know more about me through that, than me sitting down and talking.” He says this same thing to Matt Lauer in an interview on the Today show around the time he was inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. “I’m not so mysterious. I’m a pretty open book. People who know my music, I would say, know me.”
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Any chance you could start a blog where you go song-by-song explaining why each song is about Vanity? Hell i'd read it. | |
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Where's your evidence that The Breakdown is autobiographical? "First one intoxicated, last one to leave" sounds like him to you, does it?
Live performance is entirely different subject. | |
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"She's Always In My Hair"- Jill Jones "The Beautiful Ones"- Vanity "Adore"- S. Melvoin "Vicki Waiting"- Anna "Cream"- Prince "Peach"- Maytè "I Hate U"- Carmen "The One"- all u groupies "Call My Name"- all u fams "P.F.U.nk"- all u haters "The Breakdown"- the life of a star
What original songs were inspired by Andy Allo??? "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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Yes, however, I'm writing a book about it. Mainly concentrating on videos but some songs without video. Maybe I can do a blog for songs not in the book. Writing is gruelling and Prince isn't the only one writing about Vanity. | |
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Prince's First Song On His First Record
For You All of this and more is for you
With love, sincerity and deepest care MY LIFE WITH YOU I SHARE All Prince songs are autobiographical. However, you are right about the lyrics you reference to The Breakdown if taken a party where intoxicating liquors and drugs are served to the revealers. However, what if the "the party" is something else and intoxication is not by drugs or alcohol? What if the party is life, or life as a musician or rock star. What if intoxication is the intoxication of being a rock star or love of a woman or anything other than drugs. Is the New Year's party reference in the lyrics a reference to the song 1999. Think deeper. Prince is trying to tell you something about his life. Maybe it's not easily understood but it is about his life. | |
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I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but all these songs are about Vanity, despite what people believe otherwise. | |
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ALL them songs?
REALLY? "Whatever skin we're in
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YES REALLY. THOSE AND MORE...
See Prince Legagcy Instagram from February 2, 2016. He posted artistic picture of him and the Love Sign and songs all over in the background. The caption to this post was L E G A C Y. All the songs are about Denise/Vanity, some retroactively or as a clarion call for her.
Here are the list of songs in this post. They are all about Denise/Vanity. But there even more are about her. But these are the one's he deems 'legacy' songs.
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (The Gold Experience) Little Red Corvette (1999) 20Ten (20Ten) Sign ‘O The Times (Sign ‘O The Times) Purple Rain (Purple Rain) The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic) Under The Cherry Moon (Parade) Cream (Diamonds and Pearls) Breakdown (Art Official Age) Emancipation (Emancipation) One Song (streamed as video only on Love4oneanother.com, NPG Club Edition 6 download) Take Me With You (Purple Rain) This Could Be Us (Art Official Age) Dance 4 Me (MPLsound) Fury (3121) Love (3121) Supercute (The Chocolate Invasion, NPG Music Club Edition #5 download) I Wish U Heaven (Lovesexy) Raspberry Beret (Around The World In A Day) And God Created Woman (Love Symbol) Let's Go Crazy (Purple Rain) Sugar Walls (Sheena Easton – A Private Heaven) Anotherloverholenyohead (Parade) Cinnamon Girl (Musicology) Play In The Sunshine (Sign ‘O The Times) Laydown (20Ten - bonus track) Paisley Park (Around The World In A Day) Breakfast Can Wait (Art Official Age) If I Love U 2night (Mica Paris – Contribution, 1-800-Newfunk, Mayte – Child Of The Sun) F.U.N.K. (stream only on PrinceFansUnited.com, 3121.com, itunes) 4Ever (Lotusflow3r) Fixurlifeup (Plectrumelectrum) Future Baby Momma (Planet Earth) Underneath The Cream (The Chocolate Invasion, NPG Music Club, Edition 10 download) Shy (The Gold Experience) Girl 6 (NPG Girl 6 Soundtrack) 319 (The Gold Experience) Art Official Age (Album) Clouds (Art Official Age) Lotusflow3r (Album) Peach (The Hits 2 / The Hits B-sides) I Would Die 4 U (Purple Rain) Kiss (Parade) Future Soul Song (20Ten) Chocolate Box (MPLsound) Hello (Around The World In A Day) Thieves In The Temple (Graffiti Bridge) Guitar (Planet Earth) Purple and Gold (audio stream Vikings.com) The Holy River (Emancipation) Le Grind (The Black Album) Hello (Around The World In A Day) Chelsea Rodgers (Planet Earth) For You * (For You) God (B-side of Purple Rain, The Hits / The B-sides) 7 (Symbol) Party Up (Dirty Mind) 1999 (1999) Crystal Ball (Crystal Ball) Days Of Wild (Crystal Ball) Erotic City (B side of Let’s Go Crazy, The Hits / The B-sides) Call My Name (Musicology) Girls And Boys (Parade) HouseQuake (Sign ‘O The Times) Pussy Control (The Gold Experience) She’s Always In My Hair (The B-side of Raspberry Beret, The Hits / B-sides) Scandalous (Batman) Darling Nikki (Purple Rain) Dolphin (The Gold Experience) New Power Generation (Graffiti Bridge) Colonized Mind (Lotusflow3r) 101 (Sheena Easton – The Lover In Me, Prince credited as Joey Coco) Trust (Batman) N.E.W.S. (download NPG Music club, instrumental album) U Got The Look (Sign ‘O The Times) Bat Dance (Batman) Soft And Wet * (For You) Cool (The Time Album) Come On (NPG – New Power Soul) I Wanna Be Your Lover * (Prince) The One You Wanna C (Plant Earth) Sexy MF (Diamonds and Pearls) One Night Alone (Album Title Song) Slave (Emancipation) Glam Slam (Lovesexy) Dreamer (Lotusflow3r) Black Sweat (3121) Alphabet Street (Lovesexy) Valentina (MPLsound) Lovesexy (Lovesexy) High (NPG Music Club Volume One) Mountains (Graffiti Bridge) Money Don’t Matter 2night (Diamonds and Pearls) New Power Soul (NPG – New Power Soul) U Know (Art Official Age) Let It Go (Come) Partyman (Batman) Delirious (1999) Manic Monday (recorded by Vanity, subsequently given to The Bangles – Different Light) Crucial (Crystal Ball) Graffiti Bridge (Graffiti Bridge) So Far, So Pleased (Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic) Insatiable (Diamonds and Pearls) Hot With U (Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic) Dream Factory (Crystal Ball) A Love Bizarre (Sheila E - Romance 1600) 3121 (3121) Musicology (Musicology) The One (NPG New Power Soul, Promotional Single) Adore (Sign ‘O The Times) Movie Star (Crystal Ball) Muse To The Pharaoh (The Rainbow Children) The Glamourous Life (Shelia E) Come (Come) Get Wild (NPG Exodus) Love Sign (Crystal Ball) Controversy (Album Title Song) The Question Of U (Graffiti Bridge) Te Amo Corazon (3121) Way Back Home (Art Official Age) Funknroll (Plectrumelectrum) If I Was Your Girlfriend (Sign O’ The Times) Planet Earth (Planet Earth) Solo (Come) Somebody’s Somebody (Emancipation) 2morrow (Crystal Ball) Dirty Mind* (Dirty Mind) Pop Life (Around The World In A Day) Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic) Uptown * (Dirty Mind) Get Your Groove On (Emancipation) Acknowledge Me (Crystal Ball) Space (Come) Around The World In A Day (Around The Word In A Day) Jam Of The Year (Emancipation) Everybody Loves Me (20Ten) Fallinlove2night (Hit N Run, Phase One) DMSR (1999) Round And Round (Graffiti Bridge, sung by Tevin Campbell) The Beautiful Ones (Purple Rain) Dreamin’ About U (Emancipation) I Feel For You * (Prince) Blue Light (Symbol) The Sun, The Moon and The Stars (Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic) I Hate U (The Gold Experience) Baby Knows (Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic) Sex Shooter (recorded by Vanity 6, Apollonia 6) I Like It There (Chaos And Disorder) The Screams Of Passion (The Family, Girl 6) My Name Is Prince (Love Symbol) The Everlasting Now (The Rainbow Children) Hot Thing (Sign ‘O The Times) Endorphinmachine (The Gold Experience) Joint 2 Joint (Emancipation) Rainbow Children (Album Title Song) Gold (Gold) Sex In The Summer (Emancipation) Love…Thy Will Be Done (NPG Exodus, Martika’s Kitchen) Screwdriver (Hit N Run, Phase Two) Damn U (Love Symbol) A Million Days (Musicology) Nasty Girl (Vanity 6) Electric Intercourse (Purple Rain Deluxe) Mia Bocca (Jill Jones) The Cross (Sign ‘O The Times) Rock And Roll Love Affair (Hit N Run Phase Two) When You Were Mine* (Dirty Mind) Baby I’m A Star (Purple Rain) Good Love (Crystal Ball) When Doves Cry (Purple Rain) 17 Days (B-side of When Doves Cry, The Hits The B-sides) Chaos And Disorder (Chaos And Disorder) Count The Days (NPG Exodus) Diamonds And Pearls (Diamonds And Pearls) In This Bed I Scream (Emancipation) Dinner With Delores (Chaos and Disorder) Interactive (Crystal Ball) She Loves Me 4 Me (The Rainbow Children) Now (The Gold Experience) Dark (Come) Somewhere Here On Earth (Planet Earth) Nothing Compares 2 U (The Family, Sinead O’Connor – I Don’t Want What I Haven’t Got, Original 1983 recording for streaming in 2018)
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nayroo2002 said:
ALL them songs?
REALLY? You'll have to forgive him. He actually, unironically, and unapologetically thinks all of Prince's songs are about Vanity. | |
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Don't apologize for me, I don't need it. I'm fully aware that this seems unbelievable but it's true reguardless if you believe it or not. I realize it may take years before people accept this and many Prince fans never will. I can fight my own battles. | |
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i didn't read through the whole list, but when i saw "Cream" on it, i stopped. "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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authorbest said:
Don't apologize for me, I don't need it. I'm fully aware that this seems unbelievable but it's true reguardless if you believe it or not. I realize it may take years before people accept this and many Prince fans never will. I can fight my own battles. youre not gonna say MJs sister, are you? | |
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LOL! This is a song of encoragement to Vanity. "You're filthy cute and baby you know it" Who do you think that is? It's Vanity. He's talking to Vanity in this song. Her career wasn't going that well at the time he wrote it (and he gets a hit out of it. LOL!). There's more to this but this is all I can give you at this time.
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authorbest said:
Don't apologize for me, I don't need it. I'm fully aware that this seems unbelievable but it's true reguardless if you believe it or not. I realize it may take years before people accept this and many Prince fans never will. I can fight my own battles. So, Batdance is about Vanity, eh? | |
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LOL! YES. So is Partyman, Electric Chair, Lemon Crush, Arms of Orion, Scandalous. Even Vicky waiting in a way. | |
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I'm writing a book that gives more details. I found the Rosetta Stone that unlocks Prince.
It is my Opinion, as I am not Prince, but I believe I'm on solid ground. You'll have to wait for my bookd for the details.
As I said some are retroactive or a clarion call for Vanity. Prince didn't write the lyrics to Soft & Wet so how can he include it in legacy? Well think about it?
Black Sweat - You'll have to wait on this one. All I can say U is Vanity. God - U is Vanity Le Grind - U is Vanity Housequake - U is Vanity - was supposed to be on the Camille album. Camille is connected to Vanity.
U Got The Look - U is Vanity not stand in Shena Easton.
Also, All Prince movies are about Vanity.
Sorry I can't be more informative at this time. I don't want to give it all away.
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authorbest said:
LOL! YES. So is Partyman, Electric Chair, Lemon Crush, Arms of Orion, Scandalous. Even Vicky waiting in a way. I look forward to illegally downloading a PDF of your book | |
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Wow. What a statement! So you admit illegal activity? Well, I know where to look first.
I'm not doing it for money. It's a story that needs to be told for posterity. | |
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authorbest said:
I'm writing a book that gives more details. I found the Rosetta Stone that unlocks Prince.
It is my Opinion, as I am not Prince, but I believe I'm on solid ground. You'll have to wait for my bookd for the details.
As I said some are retroactive or a clarion call for Vanity. Prince didn't write the lyrics to Soft & Wet so how can he include it in legacy? Well think about it?
Black Sweat - You'll have to wait on this one. All I can say U is Vanity. God - U is Vanity Le Grind - U is Vanity Housequake - U is Vanity - was supposed to be on the Camille album. Camille is connected to Vanity.
U Got The Look - U is Vanity not stand in Shena Easton.
Also, All Prince movies are about Vanity.
Sorry I can't be more informative at this time. I don't want to give it all away.
Please don’t. You could not be more mistaken. Prince and Andy Allo attended a poetry reading that one of the posters here was at. The poster worked at the poetry house. The poster said to Prince, “Your music is the soundtrack to my life!” Prince responded, “Mine too.” Prince’s music was about his life. You must be new to Prince’s music and his life. Because we’ve all known for years who these songs are about. Many different people throughout Prince’s very well-lived life. And if you think for one red hot second that a man like Prince Rogers Nelson only had one woman on his mind since 1981, then you must be projecting something of your own personal stuff onto him. Which people did regularly. And he knew it. He just let people believe what they wanted. Prince grew and changed and went through all kinds of phases during his life. This included different love interests that were there during whatever time. Could you imagine still writing creatively all your songs about your GF/BF from the EIGHTIES? Please! It’s not even conceivable. Particularly not for a man like Prince. He moved ahead. All the time. That’s what living is! He still cares about his former protégés though. Very much. There were numerous threads a while back here detailing much, much proof of Prince’s obsession/friendship/sexual interest in Andy Allo. My thought? She got over on him. And that broke his ego. And landed him in pain. And yes, I have heard he was with other women which got her angry. He didn’t mean anything by it, it’s just what he did. There might’ve been arguments about her music and independence too. And maybe religion. Who knows? Or maybe she outgrew wanting to stay at PP and with him. She was very young after all. And yes. He was single the last year or so. And I don’t think happy. It might’ve been that thing about not getting what you think you want, and also getting older. Getting older is very hard for some people. He pined for the “good old days”, he told Judith and she said he was depressed. The “good old days” might have included his last “exciting” and fun relationship of “youth”. He loved flirting too Also the older you get, the harder these breakups are. When people leave. I think they flirted or played games a lot on social media. I know it is all forgiven now, whatever happened. As a side note: take a lesson from Andy, who took it from Prince. She has stayed out of the drama and on her own. She is very vocal about her life but has stayed mostly out of controversy. It’s called boundaries. Prince taught his female protégés that. He wasn’t just musically mentoring them. He was spiritually mentoring them. He was helping them heal their scars. Teaching them to be present. Prince had many love interests in his life. [b][Edited 3/2/20 14:23pm] [Edited 3/2/20 14:24pm] [Edited 3/2/20 14:27pm] [Edited 3/2/20 14:31pm] | |
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You might as well say it was about Latoya Jackson.
You're getting warm! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I say retroactive, I mean Prince applies those songs that he wrote before Vanity retroactively to Vanity. When I say clarion call, Prince in his music before Vanity, was asking the universe for Vanity. And he got his Vanity. Oh boy did he!
Just in the same way as the reason for this posting, 'Another Love'. This song was reworked by Prince after he finally came to the conclusion it wasn't ever going to happen with Vanity. He is saying he needs to find "Another Love". This is a clarion call to the universe for Another Love. Who entered his life shortly after this song? Judith Hill.
If you understand who Judith Hill is you would know Prince got his 'Another Love'. If God put Prince to sleep and took out one of his ribs and made a woman to help him forget Vanity, God would have made Judith Hill. Maybe God partially did make Judith Hill for that reason.
Judith got to equal status with Denise/Vanity but she could not erase his memories of Vanity. That is what Judith Hill's video co-created with Prince "Back In Time" is about. He loved Judith equal to Vanity but memories of Vanity could not be erased.
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Uh Oh, another Andy Allo supporter!!!
She knows! (In my opinion) And she didn't say anything. She wanted to be Vanity and ended up being Shelia E, in my opinion only of course!!!! | |
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