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Reply #30 posted 02/28/20 2:11pm

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Reply #31 posted 02/28/20 2:30pm

PeggyO

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I think it's cute that you all think his songs were about real life. Maybe in the early days, but you really think he had women doing him wrong left and right all the way to the end? Prince was not a confessional songwriter.

I think he was very much a confessional songwriter. He even said if you wanted to know more about him, you should listen to his songs.

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Reply #32 posted 02/28/20 5:11pm

lavendardrumma
chine

LoveGalore said:

Ah yes, so he releases two albums at the same time - one with a duet with Andy and the other with an Andy diss track? And then his next album has another collab with her??? Try harder folks. Or, don't.



Are we talking about the same Prince who stole Shockadelica from his friend to make it his own?

It's perfectly Prince to flex both his star making abilities and his take down abilities at the same time. In other words, he makes stars, but then he owns that stardom, and when he puts you on his album, nobody will think of them without thinking of Prince too...but he already kicked you to the curb, so good luck with that.

But uh, maybe he was just a complex moody songwriter that could write a bitter song, then make up with a person afterhe got it out of his system? Doesn't mean he wasn't happy with how it turned out and he wasn't going to release it anyway. We see him stay friendly with all the friends for sale, right? Or maybe she got the message and they talked it out?

Matching clothes and hair...even Andy Allo would have thought that was about Andy Allo. You have to go back to SOTT for anyone else. Could have been Sheila E. I guess.

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Reply #33 posted 02/28/20 7:54pm

LoveGalore

lavendardrummachine said:



LoveGalore said:


Ah yes, so he releases two albums at the same time - one with a duet with Andy and the other with an Andy diss track? And then his next album has another collab with her??? Try harder folks. Or, don't.



Are we talking about the same Prince who stole Shockadelica from his friend to make it his own?

It's perfectly Prince to flex both his star making abilities and his take down abilities at the same time. In other words, he makes stars, but then he owns that stardom, and when he puts you on his album, nobody will think of them without thinking of Prince too...but he already kicked you to the curb, so good luck with that.

But uh, maybe he was just a complex moody songwriter that could write a bitter song, then make up with a person afterhe got it out of his system? Doesn't mean he wasn't happy with how it turned out and he wasn't going to release it anyway. We see him stay friendly with all the friends for sale, right? Or maybe she got the message and they talked it out?

Matching clothes and hair...even Andy Allo would have thought that was about Andy Allo. You have to go back to SOTT for anyone else. Could have been Sheila E. I guess.

[Edited 2/28/20 17:12pm]



I see what you're saying, but Prince used the clothes/hair commentary more than once before. That's equally Princey as flexing on people (which he liked to do about a lot of things).

This one? I don't buy it. Not since I Hate U has he been quite that bipolar and he continued releasing music with Andy the entire time.

People making up scenarios about them being off and on is pure head canon. And at least a LITTLE weird - it goes a step beyond discussing things that are already public knowledge like breakups with Susannah and his divorces. Prince never publicly claimed or discussed a relationship at all with her much less them being up and down, lol.
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Reply #34 posted 02/28/20 8:43pm

lavendardrumma
chine

LoveGalore said:

Prince never publicly claimed or discussed a relationship at all with her much less them being up and down, lol.


You might be right but I think some of their relationship (or friendship?) was public enough at the time that people seemed to have a good handle on it. My recollection is she got sent away a couple times, people were keeping tabs based on her social media and they appeared to have parted ways for a while, when she was back in Sacramento, doing her own solo shows and talking about her work with him in past tense, trying to establish herself on her own, then she came back and did shows as part of his band. So it seems plausible. I could have some of this mixed up, but imagine there are Prince fans that have the on again, off again nature of their work together pretty locked down.

I don't think we 100% know of any romantic relationships after Misty.

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Reply #35 posted 02/28/20 8:53pm

LoveGalore

lavendardrummachine said:



LoveGalore said:


Prince never publicly claimed or discussed a relationship at all with her much less them being up and down, lol.


You might be right but I think some of their relationship (or friendship?) was public enough at the time that people seemed to have a good handle on it. My recollection is she got sent away a couple times, people were keeping tabs based on her social media and they appeared to have parted ways for a while, when she was back in Sacramento, doing her own solo shows and talking about her work with him in past tense, trying to establish herself on her own, then she came back and did shows as part of his band. So it seems plausible. I could have some of this mixed up, but imagine there are Prince fans that have the on again, off again nature of their work together pretty locked down.

I don't think we 100% know of any romantic relationships after Misty.



I tend to be of the mind that if we don't know for sure, then it can't be relied on. With Andy, it could've been a real relationship or marketing. Even the letter the detectives found and released doesn't say stuff, to me, that speaks "romantic relationship" in the way a normal Joe/Joanne would know it.

As for Misty, she's been with the same guy for nearly 20 years and I doubt prince came between them.
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Reply #36 posted 02/28/20 8:55pm

PeggyO

LoveGalore said:

lavendardrummachine said:


You might be right but I think some of their relationship (or friendship?) was public enough at the time that people seemed to have a good handle on it. My recollection is she got sent away a couple times, people were keeping tabs based on her social media and they appeared to have parted ways for a while, when she was back in Sacramento, doing her own solo shows and talking about her work with him in past tense, trying to establish herself on her own, then she came back and did shows as part of his band. So it seems plausible. I could have some of this mixed up, but imagine there are Prince fans that have the on again, off again nature of their work together pretty locked down.

I don't think we 100% know of any romantic relationships after Misty.

I tend to be of the mind that if we don't know for sure, then it can't be relied on. With Andy, it could've been a real relationship or marketing. Even the letter the detectives found and released doesn't say stuff, to me, that speaks "romantic relationship" in the way a normal Joe/Joanne would know it. As for Misty, she's been with the same guy for nearly 20 years and I doubt prince came between them.

You guys/gals drinking?

Sounds like recently fired TMZ employees.

[Edited 2/28/20 20:57pm]

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Reply #37 posted 02/28/20 8:58pm

LoveGalore

PeggyO said:



LoveGalore said:


lavendardrummachine said:



You might be right but I think some of their relationship (or friendship?) was public enough at the time that people seemed to have a good handle on it. My recollection is she got sent away a couple times, people were keeping tabs based on her social media and they appeared to have parted ways for a while, when she was back in Sacramento, doing her own solo shows and talking about her work with him in past tense, trying to establish herself on her own, then she came back and did shows as part of his band. So it seems plausible. I could have some of this mixed up, but imagine there are Prince fans that have the on again, off again nature of their work together pretty locked down.

I don't think we 100% know of any romantic relationships after Misty.



I tend to be of the mind that if we don't know for sure, then it can't be relied on. With Andy, it could've been a real relationship or marketing. Even the letter the detectives found and released doesn't say stuff, to me, that speaks "romantic relationship" in the way a normal Joe/Joanne would know it. As for Misty, she's been with the same guy for nearly 20 years and I doubt prince came between them.


You guys/gals drinking?


Sounds like recently fired TMZ employees.

[Edited 2/28/20 20:57pm]



Not sure I follow.
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Reply #38 posted 02/28/20 9:09pm

PeggyO

LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said:

You guys/gals drinking?

Sounds like recently fired TMZ employees.

[Edited 2/28/20 20:57pm]

Not sure I follow.

Your 'facts' are all over the place...I really thought it was a skit between the 2 of you. I guess it wasn't...

If Andy ain't real, Misty is a real long shot; but hey, keep going, it's fun.

I think his last real girlfriend/wife was Mani. There, that is a fact. The rest are pure speculation, apparently.

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Reply #39 posted 02/28/20 9:12pm

lavendardrumma
chine

PeggyO said:

LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said: Not sure I follow.

Your 'facts' are all over the place...I really thought it was a skit between the 2 of you. I guess it wasn't...

If Andy ain't real, Misty is a real long shot; but hey, keep going, it's fun.

I think his last real girlfriend/wife was Mani. There, that is a fact. The rest are pure speculation, apparently.



Speculation over Prince's love life and collaborations are standard Prince talk. It's not TMZ. Pretty sure ou've engaged in it too.

[Edited 2/28/20 21:22pm]

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Reply #40 posted 02/28/20 9:29pm

PeggyO

lavendardrummachine said:

PeggyO said:

Your 'facts' are all over the place...I really thought it was a skit between the 2 of you. I guess it wasn't...

If Andy ain't real, Misty is a real long shot; but hey, keep going, it's fun.

I think his last real girlfriend/wife was Mani. There, that is a fact. The rest are pure speculation, apparently.



Speculation over Prince's love life and collaborations are standard Prince talk. It's not TMZ. Pretty sure ou've engaged in it too.

[Edited 2/28/20 21:22pm]

Not what I meant.

But, if Andy Allo isn't real, then I think we should use those parameters on everyone post Mani. It's all speculation, apparently.

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Reply #41 posted 02/28/20 10:04pm

LoveGalore

PeggyO said:



lavendardrummachine said:




PeggyO said:





Your 'facts' are all over the place...I really thought it was a skit between the 2 of you. I guess it wasn't...


If Andy ain't real, Misty is a real long shot; but hey, keep going, it's fun.


I think his last real girlfriend/wife was Mani. There, that is a fact. The rest are pure speculation, apparently.






Speculation over Prince's love life and collaborations are standard Prince talk. It's not TMZ. Pretty sure ou've engaged in it too.


[Edited 2/28/20 21:22pm]




Not what I meant.


But, if Andy Allo isn't real, then I think we should use those parameters on everyone post Mani. It's all speculation, apparently.



Yeah, no shit it's speculative. And? You wanna act like there's verifiable facts for who prince actually dated??

Go ahead and make the assumption they dated. I care not. Perhaps they did. My issue was with this nonsense about them being off and on, which is entirely dreamed up by people.
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Reply #42 posted 02/28/20 10:07pm

PeggyO

LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said:

Not what I meant.

But, if Andy Allo isn't real, then I think we should use those parameters on everyone post Mani. It's all speculation, apparently.

Yeah, no shit it's speculative. And? You wanna act like there's verifiable facts for who prince actually dated?? Go ahead and make the assumption they dated. I care not. Perhaps they did. My issue was with this nonsense about them being off and on, which is entirely dreamed up by people.

I'm now going with my new mantra...it is all speculative since Mani...probably all of it was a PR stunt.

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Reply #43 posted 02/28/20 10:13pm

LoveGalore

PeggyO said:



LoveGalore said:


PeggyO said:



Not what I meant.


But, if Andy Allo isn't real, then I think we should use those parameters on everyone post Mani. It's all speculation, apparently.



Yeah, no shit it's speculative. And? You wanna act like there's verifiable facts for who prince actually dated?? Go ahead and make the assumption they dated. I care not. Perhaps they did. My issue was with this nonsense about them being off and on, which is entirely dreamed up by people.


I'm now going with my new mantra...it is all speculative since Mani...probably all of it was a PR stunt.



I mean, g'wan ahead and do you. Makes sense, really, considering Prince never said boo about dating any of these women. And frankly, none of these women come out and say "oh yeah of course we dated" anymore either. Check what Andy and Judith have said - noncommittal vagueness. Prince claimed no women after Mani and that's a fact.
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Reply #44 posted 02/28/20 10:23pm

PeggyO

LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said:

I'm now going with my new mantra...it is all speculative since Mani...probably all of it was a PR stunt.

I mean, g'wan ahead and do you. Makes sense, really, considering Prince never said boo about dating any of these women. And frankly, none of these women come out and say "oh yeah of course we dated" anymore either. Check what Andy and Judith have said - noncommittal vagueness. Prince claimed no women after Mani and that's a fact.

There you go...look how much time we'll save now.

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Reply #45 posted 02/28/20 10:47pm

lavendardrumma
chine

PeggyO said:

lavendardrummachine said:



Speculation over Prince's love life and collaborations are standard Prince talk. It's not TMZ. Pretty sure ou've engaged in it too.

[Edited 2/28/20 21:22pm]

Not what I meant.

But, if Andy Allo isn't real, then I think we should use those parameters on everyone post Mani. It's all speculation, apparently.


I have no idea what I just walked into... but I think it's perfectly cool to admit there's a certain amount of fan speculation that we shouldn't be married to. I replied under the assumption he had some sorta relationship with Andy, maybe it wasn't romantic, maybe it was, but they seemed intimate in some way. That's all I know. Not sure I follow the sass.

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Reply #46 posted 02/28/20 10:59pm

LoveGalore

lavendardrummachine said:



PeggyO said:




lavendardrummachine said:





Speculation over Prince's love life and collaborations are standard Prince talk. It's not TMZ. Pretty sure ou've engaged in it too.


[Edited 2/28/20 21:22pm]




Not what I meant.


But, if Andy Allo isn't real, then I think we should use those parameters on everyone post Mani. It's all speculation, apparently.




I have no idea what I just walked into... but I think it's perfectly cool to admit there's a certain amount of fan speculation that we shouldn't be married to. I replied under the assumption he had some sorta relationship with Andy, maybe it wasn't romantic, maybe it was, but they seemed intimate in some way. That's all I know. Not sure I follow the sass.



I'm pretty confused as well. This thread is based on speculation and I'm certain PeggyO has participated in similar discussions before so....???
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Reply #47 posted 02/28/20 11:20pm

PeggyO

LoveGalore said:

lavendardrummachine said:


I have no idea what I just walked into... but I think it's perfectly cool to admit there's a certain amount of fan speculation that we shouldn't be married to. I replied under the assumption he had some sorta relationship with Andy, maybe it wasn't romantic, maybe it was, but they seemed intimate in some way. That's all I know. Not sure I follow the sass.

I'm pretty confused as well. This thread is based on speculation and I'm certain PeggyO has participated in similar discussions before so....???

I was just having some good ole fun dishin' it back to ya; I figured y'all could take it.

In all seriousness, I have

spontaneously decided not to peer into Prince's love life any longer as in my experience the discussions/ arguments are endless and I am behind in my dusting...

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Reply #48 posted 02/28/20 11:41pm

LoveGalore

PeggyO said:



LoveGalore said:


lavendardrummachine said:



I have no idea what I just walked into... but I think it's perfectly cool to admit there's a certain amount of fan speculation that we shouldn't be married to. I replied under the assumption he had some sorta relationship with Andy, maybe it wasn't romantic, maybe it was, but they seemed intimate in some way. That's all I know. Not sure I follow the sass.



I'm pretty confused as well. This thread is based on speculation and I'm certain PeggyO has participated in similar discussions before so....???


I was just having some good ole fun dishin' it back to ya; I figured y'all could take it.


In all seriousness, I have


spontaneously decided not to peer into Prince's love life any longer as in my experience the discussions/ arguments are endless and I am behind in my dusting...



Oh! Well dish away then. I thought you peeped my LinkedIn and noticed I really did work for TMZ.

Agreed - I don't get much into his love life either anymore. Tbh, the music is a lot of samey kinda stuff past Emancipation anyway, so if he genuinely loved any of these ladies then it is news to me. You used to be able to make direct correlation between his music, which was quite honest, and what was generally known. Now it's all conjecture and deep deep speculative stuff.

The Misty thing drives me nuts cuz for that to work it would involve her cheating on her very long term relationship with a man she's married to now. Prince fans are habitual line steppers when it comes to his romantic life.
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Reply #49 posted 02/29/20 6:06am

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I don’t think he was with misty, like I don’t think he was with the twinz - he knew a beautiful stage prop when he saw one. Misty was quite hypnotic to watch and the twinz added something really fun to his show - I think he knew and found both acts to be quite beautiful though.
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Reply #50 posted 02/29/20 9:24am

PeggyO

LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said:

I was just having some good ole fun dishin' it back to ya; I figured y'all could take it.

In all seriousness, I have

spontaneously decided not to peer into Prince's love life any longer as in my experience the discussions/ arguments are endless and I am behind in my dusting...

Oh! Well dish away then. I thought you peeped my LinkedIn and noticed I really did work for TMZ. Agreed - I don't get much into his love life either anymore. Tbh, the music is a lot of samey kinda stuff past Emancipation anyway, so if he genuinely loved any of these ladies then it is news to me. You used to be able to make direct correlation between his music, which was quite honest, and what was generally known. Now it's all conjecture and deep deep speculative stuff. The Misty thing drives me nuts cuz for that to work it would involve her cheating on her very long term relationship with a man she's married to now. Prince fans are habitual line steppers when it comes to his romantic life.

Was I on to something??

I would like to play armchair psychologist and talk about something I noticed about Prince.

I think he fell "in love" quickly with his own idealized version of any woman in question. As soon as they showed their 'humanity', ie., tousled hair in the morning, slight weight gain, less talent than was originally 'promised', he seemed to lose interest fairly quickly.

I think he required some of them to wear full make-up to bed, not gain an ounce, be dressed to the nines at all times etc. Prince, IMO, was attracted to young, nubile, physically 'perfect' girls for this reason. It was a bummer, though, when they were often vapid...bored again.

I think he placed that burden on himself as well...physical perfection, ie., no weight gain, cool clothes,

heels, full make-up, hair always on point etc. Fantasy again; I don't believe in time, age (esp. his) etc.

To me, he never moved beyond fantasy and temporary idealization of women. Real women seemed to disappoint and lead to boredom. On to the next!!

This is why, to me, talking about his love life is fruitless as it never changed; just insert the woman of the moment.

I'm saying this with compassion as it was probably lonely. His family did a number on him.

In a perfect world, he would have chosen a peer, someone closer to his age with whom he had something in common, someone he could respect etc., but she would likely not have been perfect physically. Dilemma.

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Reply #51 posted 02/29/20 10:56am

jfenster

"i would never pick ther flower of my favorite protege".......a blatant lie???

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Reply #52 posted 02/29/20 11:01am

lavendardrumma
chine

PeggyO said:

less talent than was originally 'promised', he seemed to lose interest fairly quickly.


You're kidding right?

He loved himself a tone deaf honey. He did entire tours with back up dancers just doing the windmill.


Plus he didn't lose interest in Misty quickly. She meets him in 2009, and the George Lopez show is 2011.

(And she wasn't at her best in Prince's world, but her career is pretty remarkable before and after him)


If it makes you feel better, my original draft of my post cast doubt about how real the Misty Copeland situation was, I never even thought they had any chemistry on stage, but I differ to the Prince crowd who are more in the know on that one. Yeah we don't really know what he did after Bria, but it was also many years until we knew for sure that Sheila E. was a real relationship instead of fans buying into marketing.

Say what you want, at the very least, Prince wanted to project an image that he was romantic with them.

[Edited 2/29/20 11:03am]

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Reply #53 posted 02/29/20 11:47am

RJOrion

smh...some of yall out here lying and recklessly gossipping on Prince's dick...
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Reply #54 posted 02/29/20 12:04pm

lavendardrumma
chine

RJOrion said:

smh...some of yall out here lying and recklessly gossipping on Prince's dick...



What does that even mean? Were you holding his dick at the time?

I can't tell what side you're weighing in on here, but clearly none of us are above it.

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Reply #55 posted 02/29/20 12:14pm

RJOrion

lavendardrummachine said:



RJOrion said:


smh...some of yall out here lying and recklessly gossipping on Prince's dick...



What does that even mean? Were you holding his dick at the time?

I can't tell what side you're weighing in on here, but clearly none of us are above it.




if you dont know what that means, it speaks volumes about your ability (or lack thereof) to comprehend...and why/how would i be holding Prince's dick...grow up...and dont let everyone know how limited you are.
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Reply #56 posted 02/29/20 12:51pm

PeggyO

lavendardrummachine said:

PeggyO said:


You're kidding right?

He loved himself a tone deaf honey. He did entire tours with back up dancers just doing the windmill.


Plus he didn't lose interest in Misty quickly. She meets him in 2009, and the George Lopez show is 2011.

(And she wasn't at her best in Prince's world, but her career is pretty remarkable before and after him)


If it makes you feel better, my original draft of my post cast doubt about how real the Misty Copeland situation was, I never even thought they had any chemistry on stage, but I differ to the Prince crowd who are more in the know on that one. Yeah we don't really know what he did after Bria, but it was also many years until we knew for sure that Sheila E. was a real relationship instead of fans buying into marketing.

Say what you want, at the very least, Prince wanted to project an image that he was romantic with them.

[Edited 2/29/20 11:03am]

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Reply #57 posted 02/29/20 12:57pm

PeggyO

Misty was a talent in her own right. I am not referring to her as I don't think they had a relationship other than professional.

I'm talking about the rotation of other women...Bria, Andy, Judith ad infinitum.

PeggyO said:

lavendardrummachine said:


You're kidding right?

He loved himself a tone deaf honey. He did entire tours with back up dancers just doing the windmill.


Plus he didn't lose interest in Misty quickly. She meets him in 2009, and the George Lopez show is 2011.

(And she wasn't at her best in Prince's world, but her career is pretty remarkable before and after him)


If it makes you feel better, my original draft of my post cast doubt about how real the Misty Copeland situation was, I never even thought they had any chemistry on stage, but I differ to the Prince crowd who are more in the know on that one. Yeah we don't really know what he did after Bria, but it was also many years until we knew for sure that Sheila E. was a real relationship instead of fans buying into marketing.

Say what you want, at the very least, Prince wanted to project an image that he was romantic with them.

[Edited 2/29/20 11:03am]

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Reply #58 posted 02/29/20 1:59pm

dodger

RJOrion said:

lavendardrummachine said:



RJOrion said:


smh...some of yall out here lying and recklessly gossipping on Prince's dick...



What does that even mean? Were you holding his dick at the time?

I can't tell what side you're weighing in on here, but clearly none of us are above it.




if you dont know what that means, it speaks volumes about your ability (or lack thereof) to comprehend...and why/how would i be holding Prince's dick...grow up...and dont let everyone know how limited you are.


lol lol
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Reply #59 posted 02/29/20 2:38pm

lavendardrumma
chine

RJOrion said:

lavendardrummachine said:



What does that even mean? Were you holding his dick at the time?

I can't tell what side you're weighing in on here, but clearly none of us are above it.

if you dont know what that means, it speaks volumes about your ability (or lack thereof) to comprehend...and why/how would i be holding Prince's dick...grow up...and dont let everyone know how limited you are.


I just see that you're thirsty to bait n' troll.

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