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Reply #90 posted 03/02/20 2:42pm

lavendardrumma
chine

authorbest said:

I mean Prince applies those songs that he wrote before Vanity retroactively to Vanity.


He applied those songs to whoever was on his mind at the time. Including that funky big lady in the front row.

Hell, he was a songwriter...who said he even had to have a specific person in mind? Let me guess, Sister was about Vanity too?

Dooming him to obsess about his past doesn't fit entire eras of his work or worldview.

Finally the idea he never wrote and released a song about his wives, or childhood sweethearts, or anyone else, and every trite vapid song, or party anthem he wrote is out of obsession for someone he knew briefly, is pretty insulting to him and outright ridiculous. It doesn't take a book to see why that's not justified.





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Reply #91 posted 03/02/20 2:46pm

lavendardrumma
chine

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Prince did a Rolling Stone interview published in Jan 2014 in which he said he was celebate. This was during the time he was with Andy Allo.



Could be, but they meet in 2009, and she's limited to an occasional guest appareance by 2012. So there's several years before he says he's celibate.

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Reply #92 posted 03/02/20 3:09pm

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lavendardrummachine said:

authorbest said:

Prince did a Rolling Stone interview published in Jan 2014 in which he said he was celebate. This was during the time he was with Andy Allo.



Could be, but they meet in 2009, and she's limited to an occasional guest appareance by 2012. So there's several years before he says he's celibate.

ist CELE.BATE when u reward yourself ??

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Reply #93 posted 03/02/20 3:33pm

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lavendardrummachine said:

authorbest said:

I mean Prince applies those songs that he wrote before Vanity retroactively to Vanity.


He applied those songs to whoever was on his mind at the time. Including that funky big lady in the front row.

Hell, he was a songwriter...who said he even had to have a specific person in mind? Let me guess, Sister was about Vanity too?

Dooming him to obsess about his past doesn't fit entire eras of his work or worldview.

Finally the idea he never wrote and released a song about his wives, or childhood sweethearts, or anyone else, and every trite vapid song, or party anthem he wrote is out of obsession for someone he knew briefly, is pretty insulting to him and outright ridiculous. It doesn't take a book to see why that's not justified.





Sister: Well Prince did say something about the song having to do with his sexuality. And a big component of the Prince/Vanity relationship was sexual. So in a way it connects to Vanity. But you'll have to wait for LoveGalore to illegally download my book for more info. I don't have the exact quote about this song. Does someone have a link to the article where he talks about this song?

Vanity was never out of his life, so to say he only briefly knew her is wrong. In fact, I believe they almost got married a couple of times sometime around Batman and sometime in 97/98. But he was still was trying to get her back until sometime in 2013, when he lost hope and was looking for 'Another Love'. Enter Judith Hill.

I'm not saying, the public narrative didn't dimished her importance, it did. There are some pretty big reasons for keeping his relationship to Vanity quiet. Even Mayte stated in her book that Vanity's death probably left him 'gut-shot' and she wanted to contact him. That is not the reaction of someone who is unimportant to your life. He immediately flew from Australia to San Francisco/Oakland where Denise/Vanity was living, after her death. He did 3 surprise shows while there for and extended period of time. You are wrong in your assement of Prince's relationship to Denise/Vanity.

However, I don't say every song is about Vanity. I say most and Prince has a pretty big catalogue. Vanity is the Black Muse extraordinare! I do say you have to assume songs are about Vanity unless you can rule out that they aren't. That is a guideline for understanding Prince music.

I believe songs on Hit and Run Phase One are mostly about Judith Hill. There are songs about other women, but usually in a 'I need to forget Vanity' way.

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Reply #94 posted 03/02/20 3:37pm

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lavendardrummachine said:

authorbest said:

Prince did a Rolling Stone interview published in Jan 2014 in which he said he was celebate. This was during the time he was with Andy Allo.



Could be, but they meet in 2009, and she's limited to an occasional guest appareance by 2012. So there's several years before he says he's celibate.

My info is he met her at the Forum in LA in 2011 when he asked her to join him onstage. Am I wrong in this? So that is 2-3 years but you are right it is undetermined date of onset of celibacy.

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Reply #95 posted 03/02/20 3:38pm

authorbest

jfenster said:

lavendardrummachine said:



Could be, but they meet in 2009, and she's limited to an occasional guest appareance by 2012. So there's several years before he says he's celibate.

ist CELE.BATE when u reward yourself ??

I'm a bad speller and editor. I admit it.

Sorry!

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Reply #96 posted 03/02/20 3:48pm

TheTruth123

authorbest said:



lavendardrummachine said:




authorbest said:



As I said some are retroactive or a clarion call for Vanity. Prince didn't write the lyrics to Soft & Wet so how can he include it in legacy? Well think about it?





It's a LARP apparently or creative writing fan fiction at best.

The "U" in those songs isn't about the "U" anyway. Housequake is a party rocker, the "U" is clearly the party/audience/listener, etc.

You might as well say it was about Latoya Jackson.

Chris Moon was co-writer for Soft and Wet.

You can't connect that song to being "about" Vanity. 3 years in the future isn't "retroactive". A fan retroactively wishing something happened doesn't count. But go on...I challenge you.

Soft and Wet... go.


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You might as well say it was about Latoya Jackson.



You're getting warm! LOL!!!!!



When I say retroactive, I mean Prince applies those songs that he wrote before Vanity retroactively to Vanity. When I say clarion call, Prince in his music before Vanity, was asking the universe for Vanity. And he got his Vanity. Oh boy did he!



Just in the same way as the reason for this posting, 'Another Love'. This song was reworked by Prince after he finally came to the conclusion it wasn't ever going to happen with Vanity. He is saying he needs to find "Another Love". This is a clarion call to the universe for Another Love. Who entered his life shortly after this song? Judith Hill.



If you understand who Judith Hill is you would know Prince got his 'Another Love'. If God put Prince to sleep and took out one of his ribs and made a woman to help him forget Vanity, God would have made Judith Hill. Maybe God partially did make Judith Hill for that reason.



Judith got to equal status with Denise/Vanity but she could not erase his memories of Vanity. That is what Judith Hill's video co-created with Prince "Back In Time" is about. He loved Judith equal to Vanity but memories of Vanity could not be erased.



Call it fan fiction if you want, but I think you are very wrong.



It’s interesting you mention fan fiction. It’s like everything we say goes right over your head. And I don’t think that will change for quite some time, if at all. :)

Please. Tell us what we don’t understand about “who” Judith Hill “is”.
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Reply #97 posted 03/02/20 3:53pm

TheTruth123

authorbest said:



TheTruth123 said:


authorbest said:


I'm writing a book that gives more details. I found the Rosetta Stone that unlocks Prince.



It is my Opinion, as I am not Prince, but I believe I'm on solid ground. You'll have to wait for my bookd for the details.



As I said some are retroactive or a clarion call for Vanity. Prince didn't write the lyrics to Soft & Wet so how can he include it in legacy? Well think about it?



Black Sweat - You'll have to wait on this one. All I can say U is Vanity.


God - U is Vanity


Le Grind - U is Vanity


Housequake - U is Vanity - was supposed to be on the Camille album. Camille is connected to Vanity.



U Got The Look - U is Vanity not stand in Shena Easton.



Also, All Prince movies are about Vanity.



Sorry I can't be more informative at this time. I don't want to give it all away.





Please don’t. You could not be more mistaken. Prince and Andy Allo attended a poetry reading that one of the posters here was at. The poster worked at the poetry house. The poster said to Prince, “Your music is the soundtrack to my life!” Prince responded, “Mine too.” Princes many relationships of all different kinds were about his life. You must be new to Prince’s music and his life. Because we’ve all known for years who these songs are about. Many different people throughout Prince’s very well-lived life. Prince still cared about his past protégés, partially in a “they’re mine” way. And if you think for one red hot second that a man like Prince Rogers Nelson only had one woman on his mind since 1981, then you must be projecting something of your own personal stuff into him. Which people did regularly. And he knew it. Prince grew and changed and went through all kinds of phases during his life. He did much, both musically and in other ways. It’s one thing that makes some of us so sad about his loss. He reminds us of where we didn’t live life to its fullest. Could you imagine still writing creatively all your songs about your GF/BF from the EIGHTIES? Please! It’s not even conceivable. Particularly not for a man like Prince. He moved ahead. All the time. That’s what living is! There were numerous threads a while back here detailing much, much proof of Prince’s obsession/friendship/sexual interest in Andy Allo. My thought? She got over on him. And that broke his ego. And landed him in pain. And yes, I have heard he was with other women which got her angry. He didn’t mean anything by it, it’s just what he did. There might’ve been arguments about her music and independence too. And maybe religion. Who knows? Or maybe she outgrew wanting to stay at PP and with him. She was very young after all. And yes. He was single the last year or so. And I don’t think happy. It might’ve been that thing about not getting what you think you want, and also getting older. Getting older is very hard for some people. He pined for the “good old days”, he told Judith and she said he was depressed. Andy might’ve been his last exciting relationship of “youth” and part of those days. Also the older you get, the harder these breakups are. When people leave. I think they flirted or played games a lot on social media. I know it is all forgiven now, whatever happened. As a side note: take a lesson from Andy, who took it from Prince. She has stayed out of the drama and on her own. She is very vocal about her life but has stayed mostly out of controversy. It’s called boundaries. Prince taught his female protégés that. He wasn’t just musically mentoring them. He was spiritually mentoring them. He was helping them heal their scars. Teaching them to be present. Prince had many loves in his life. [b][Edited 3/2/20 14:14pm] [Edited 3/2/20 14:18pm]

Uh Oh, another Andy Allo supporter!!!

Prince did a Rolling Stone interview published in Jan 2014 in which he said he was celebate. This was during the time he was with Andy Allo.

Andy Allo keeping quiet, staying out of the CONTROVERSY: noble or cowardice?

Yes, she was a protege. And Prince wants you to support her music. But as far as Prince's love life, she is more like one of the ladies deck out in gold in his video for Violet The Organ Grinder. LOL!!!!! You won't understand that so you have to wait for LoveGalore to illegally download my book!!!!!



She knows! (In my opinion) And she didn't say anything. She wanted to be Vanity and ended up being Shelia E, in my opinion only of course!!!!



I’m actually not an Andy Allo “supporter”. I just don’t live in denial.
You however must be a Vanity supporter, who does. Lol.

In 2014 Prince spent much of that year without Andy.
And you don’t have to have intercourse to have sex with someone. Prince tried to tell us that. But these are things beyond the normal scope of understanding.

You said yourself (above) that this was during the time he was with Andy Allo. You just admitted what you already know.

It’s really not worth my time either, convincing you of what you already know. Talk about the dishes needing to be done. wink
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Reply #98 posted 03/02/20 3:58pm

TheTruth123

lavendardrummachine said:



TheTruth123 said:


It’s called boundaries. Prince taught his female protégés that. He wasn’t just musically mentoring them. He was spiritually mentoring them. He was helping them heal their scars. Teaching them to be present. Prince had many loves in his life. [b][Edited 3/2/20 14:14pm]


Ehhh, you lost me there. Some of them were certainly reactive in the next relationships they chose (and some talked about it) but what's been documented sounds more like they got independence from a controlling partner. Prince cutting people off isn't mentoring. He was hot and cold.

Mayte actually talks about needing a co-dependent relationship with a puppy dog to heal. A lot of the stories sound like the opposite of boundaries Maybe the later years...he was definintely getting into that mentor role. Maybe that's what you meant.



Mayte was his wife. Not his protege only. Big difference. However he did do the past life regression thing with her often, as she’s talked about.

Carmen Electra is the one woman who has been vocal about how prince did exactly what I said above. There’s an interview with her post-princes passing where she talks about this. (Boundaries). She said, “He was my mentor!”
Orince would me for people then left them fly in their own. Yes. Sometimes as is with humans, it’s messy because feelings develop. But Carmen said Prince told her when they were together not to let anyone know she was his girlfriend because they wouldn’t take her seriously.
He didn’t change in that sense. I strongly believe he and Andy had somewhat the same thing happen.
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Reply #99 posted 03/02/20 3:59pm

TheTruth123

lavendardrummachine said:



authorbest said:


I mean Prince applies those songs that he wrote before Vanity retroactively to Vanity.




He applied those songs to whoever was on his mind at the time. Including that funky big lady in the front row.

Hell, he was a songwriter...who said he even had to have a specific person in mind? Let me guess, Sister was about Vanity too?



Dooming him to obsess about his past doesn't fit entire eras of his work or worldview.

Finally the idea he never wrote and released a song about his wives, or childhood sweethearts, or anyone else, and every trite vapid song, or party anthem he wrote is out of obsession for someone he knew briefly, is pretty insulting to him and outright ridiculous. It doesn't take a book to see why that's not justified.







THANK YOU.
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Reply #100 posted 03/02/20 4:01pm

TheTruth123

authorbest said:



lavendardrummachine said:




authorbest said:



Prince did a Rolling Stone interview published in Jan 2014 in which he said he was celebate. This was during the time he was with Andy Allo.





Could be, but they meet in 2009, and she's limited to an occasional guest appareance by 2012. So there's several years before he says he's celibate.



My info is he met her at the Forum in LA in 2011 when he asked her to join him onstage. Am I wrong in this? So that is 2-3 years but you are right it is undetermined date of onset of celibacy.



Prince tried to live by the tenets of the JW but he said himself he wasn’t perfect with it. He was growing into it. His definition of sex was different anyway.
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Reply #101 posted 03/02/20 4:22pm

authorbest

TheTruth123 said:

authorbest said:

You might as well say it was about Latoya Jackson.

You're getting warm! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I say retroactive, I mean Prince applies those songs that he wrote before Vanity retroactively to Vanity. When I say clarion call, Prince in his music before Vanity, was asking the universe for Vanity. And he got his Vanity. Oh boy did he!

Just in the same way as the reason for this posting, 'Another Love'. This song was reworked by Prince after he finally came to the conclusion it wasn't ever going to happen with Vanity. He is saying he needs to find "Another Love". This is a clarion call to the universe for Another Love. Who entered his life shortly after this song? Judith Hill.

If you understand who Judith Hill is you would know Prince got his 'Another Love'. If God put Prince to sleep and took out one of his ribs and made a woman to help him forget Vanity, God would have made Judith Hill. Maybe God partially did make Judith Hill for that reason.

Judith got to equal status with Denise/Vanity but she could not erase his memories of Vanity. That is what Judith Hill's video co-created with Prince "Back In Time" is about. He loved Judith equal to Vanity but memories of Vanity could not be erased.

Call it fan fiction if you want, but I think you are very wrong.

It’s interesting you mention fan fiction. It’s like everything we say goes right over your head. And I don’t think that will change for quite some time, if at all. smile Please. Tell us what we don’t understand about “who” Judith Hill “is”.

It’s interesting you mention fan fiction. It’s like everything we say goes right over your head. And I don’t think that will change for quite some time, if at all. smile

You are right! And that is because I am confident in my conclusions. So confident, I would bet the farm on it.

Judith Hill

I can't tell you everything because it would give too much away. But for starters.

Born: May 6, 1984

If you use a conception date calendar, she became a Zygote sometime in August 1983. The very time that Vanity left Prince and the Purple Rain project. Prince was at his lowest point at this time.

Born in L.A. L.A. plays a role in this story.

Parents both musicians.

Father a base player with funk roots.

Mother a concert pianist born in Japan but immigrates to the US because she loves funk music.

Vanity spent a year in Japan modeling before she meets Prince.

Japanese culture is important to Vanity and therefore Prince.

Judith Hill is weaned on Funk music.

Funk music was in Judith's baby bottle and all around her growing up.

Plays multiple instruments. Piano, guitar and bass.

Her mother is her music teacher piano instructor.

Learns to sing by listing to gospel, Aretha, Rose Stone, Tata Vega and others.

Is formally educated in music composition.

Has a college degreee in music composition.

Unlike Prince, reads music.

Commutes from LA to join Prince in Minneapolis to create music.

Vanity left Prince and fled to LA.

Creating with Prince reminds her of jamming with her family at home in LA.

Parents were married at the time of her conception, Mother and Father are still married and support her in music.

Vanity was, in her own words, "a bastard child". Parents never married. Father denied paternity.

Judith in every way, except for experience, is Prince's equal. In a few ways, may even be his superior - formal education and ability to read music.

Judith is someone you can take home to mother, Vanity maybe not so much.

Actually loved Prince and went through Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's - 5 stages of grief in the wake of his death. I know this by listening to her music. See her songs Chasing Rainbows, I Can Only Love You By Fire, Footsteps, Better Days.

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Reply #102 posted 03/02/20 5:04pm

PeggyO

This is becoming operatic...

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Reply #103 posted 03/02/20 5:17pm

authorbest

PeggyO said:

This is becoming operatic...

Exactly!! Prince's death was a Liebestod! Liebestod comes right out of Wagner's opera Tristan and Islode. There is more along that line but you have to read it in LoveGalore's illegal download of my book.

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Reply #104 posted 03/02/20 5:28pm

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TheTruth123 said:

Mayte was his wife. Not his protege only. Big difference. However he did do the past life regression thing with her often, as she’s talked about. Carmen Electra is the one woman who has been vocal about how prince did exactly what I said above. There’s an interview with her post-princes passing where she talks about this. (Boundaries). She said, “He was my mentor!” Orince would me for people then left them fly in their own. Yes. Sometimes as is with humans, it’s messy because feelings develop. But Carmen said Prince told her when they were together not to let anyone know she was his girlfriend because they wouldn’t take her seriously. He didn’t change in that sense. I strongly believe he and Andy had somewhat the same thing happen.

eek There is only 1 other poster (ex-poster) on this forum that has called Prince, ORINCE and that was Laura Richardson....

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Reply #105 posted 03/02/20 5:39pm

PeggyO

PennyPurple said:

TheTruth123 said:

Mayte was his wife. Not his protege only. Big difference. However he did do the past life regression thing with her often, as she’s talked about. Carmen Electra is the one woman who has been vocal about how prince did exactly what I said above. There’s an interview with her post-princes passing where she talks about this. (Boundaries). She said, “He was my mentor!” Orince would me for people then left them fly in their own. Yes. Sometimes as is with humans, it’s messy because feelings develop. But Carmen said Prince told her when they were together not to let anyone know she was his girlfriend because they wouldn’t take her seriously. He didn’t change in that sense. I strongly believe he and Andy had somewhat the same thing happen.

eek There is only 1 other poster (ex-poster) on this forum that has called Prince, ORINCE and that was Laura Richardson....

But Laura believes Prince was murdered...

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Reply #106 posted 03/02/20 7:19pm

lavendardrumma
chine

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Sister: Well Prince did say something about the song having to do with his sexuality. And a big component of the Prince/Vanity relationship was sexual.


Oh, well if the song was sexual, and he had sex with Vanity...


What other Prince books are you working on?

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Reply #107 posted 03/02/20 7:20pm

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PennyPurple said:

TheTruth123 said:

Mayte was his wife. Not his protege only. Big difference. However he did do the past life regression thing with her often, as she’s talked about. Carmen Electra is the one woman who has been vocal about how prince did exactly what I said above. There’s an interview with her post-princes passing where she talks about this. (Boundaries). She said, “He was my mentor!” Orince would me for people then left them fly in their own. Yes. Sometimes as is with humans, it’s messy because feelings develop. But Carmen said Prince told her when they were together not to let anyone know she was his girlfriend because they wouldn’t take her seriously. He didn’t change in that sense. I strongly believe he and Andy had somewhat the same thing happen.

eek There is only 1 other poster (ex-poster) on this forum that has called Prince, ORINCE and that was Laura Richardson....

nod lol lol But this one is not Laura.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #108 posted 03/02/20 7:32pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

eek There is only 1 other poster (ex-poster) on this forum that has called Prince, ORINCE and that was Laura Richardson....

nod lol lol But this one is not Laura.

lol Just thought I'd point it out. lol

[Edited 3/2/20 19:32pm]

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Reply #109 posted 03/02/20 8:01pm

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authorbest said:

TwiliteKid said:

Where's your evidence that The Breakdown is autobiographical? "First one intoxicated, last one to leave" sounds like him to you, does it?

Live performance is entirely different subject.

Prince's First Song On His First Record

For You

All of this and more is for you
With love, sincerity and deepest care
MY LIFE WITH YOU I SHARE

All Prince songs are autobiographical.

However, you are right about the lyrics you reference to The Breakdown if taken a party where intoxicating liquors and drugs are served to the revealers.
However, what if the "the party" is something else and intoxication is not by drugs or alcohol?

What if the party is life, or life as a musician or rock star. What if intoxication is the intoxication of being a rock star or love of a woman or anything other than drugs.

Is the New Year's party reference in the lyrics a reference to the song 1999.

Think deeper. Prince is trying to tell you something about his life. Maybe it's not easily understood but it is about his life.

oh geezus...lol

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #110 posted 03/02/20 9:37pm

authorbest

rdhull said:

authorbest said:

Prince's First Song On His First Record

For You

All of this and more is for you
With love, sincerity and deepest care
MY LIFE WITH YOU I SHARE

All Prince songs are autobiographical.

However, you are right about the lyrics you reference to The Breakdown if taken a party where intoxicating liquors and drugs are served to the revealers.
However, what if the "the party" is something else and intoxication is not by drugs or alcohol?

What if the party is life, or life as a musician or rock star. What if intoxication is the intoxication of being a rock star or love of a woman or anything other than drugs.

Is the New Year's party reference in the lyrics a reference to the song 1999.

Think deeper. Prince is trying to tell you something about his life. Maybe it's not easily understood but it is about his life.

oh geezus...lol

OK here are the lyrics to the entire song. What does it all mean? Who is the 'somebody like U'? Who keeps breaking Prince down? What is it all about? Give us your insight.

The BREAKDOWN



Listen to me closely as the story unfolds
This could be the saddest story even been told
I used to want the house with the biggest pool
I've been missing out I just feel like a fool



Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down



I used to throw the party at the New Year's Eve
First one intoxicated, last one to leave
Waking up in places that you would never believe
Give me back the time, you can keep the memories



Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down



Every book I've read said that I would meet somebody like you
Whenever I was sorry, so sorry for the things I used to do
A journal full of numbers that I used to go through
(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) all behind me now, all because of you



Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down



You keep breaking me, you keep breaking me down
I don't wanna walk out
Don't wanna go down, down, down



See there's a door that you can walk through
Where there used to be a wall
I don't care, it's cool as long as you catch me baby
(Catch me when I fall) If there's ever a fall
Closer to the breakdown, the closer we get
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Reply #111 posted 03/02/20 9:39pm

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lavendardrummachine said:

authorbest said:

Sister: Well Prince did say something about the song having to do with his sexuality. And a big component of the Prince/Vanity relationship was sexual.


Oh, well if the song was sexual, and he had sex with Vanity...


What other Prince books are you working on?

I don't knoow what you mean other. There is only one book. I haven't published yet so that LoveGalore can illegally download.

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Reply #112 posted 03/02/20 10:03pm

PeggyO

Let's all get a good night's sleep...

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Reply #113 posted 03/03/20 5:44am

RJOrion
so....."Baltimore" is about Vanity ??

"Stare" is about Vanity?
"Black Muse" is about Vanity?
"Big City" is about Vanity?

"Shut This Down"?... Vanity?
"Colonized Mind"?
"Family Name"?
"Silicon"?
"Y Would Eye Do That When I Could Do This?"?
"Musicology"?
"Golden Parachute"? (LOL)
"Northside"?
"2045 Radical Man"?
North
South
East
West???? those about Vanity?
"Kamasutra" LP which was music he composed for his wedding to Mayte, were those about Vanity, too..


SMH
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Reply #114 posted 03/03/20 10:50am

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authorbest said:

rdhull said:

oh geezus...lol

OK here are the lyrics to the entire song. What does it all mean? Who is the 'somebody like U'? Who keeps breaking Prince down? What is it all about? Give us your insight.

The BREAKDOWN



Listen to me closely as the story unfolds
This could be the saddest story even been told
I used to want the house with the biggest pool
I've been missing out I just feel like a fool



Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down



I used to throw the party at the New Year's Eve
First one intoxicated, last one to leave
Waking up in places that you would never believe
Give me back the time, you can keep the memories



Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down



Every book I've read said that I would meet somebody like you
Whenever I was sorry, so sorry for the things I used to do
A journal full of numbers that I used to go through
(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) all behind me now, all because of you



Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down
Keep breaking me down, down, down



You keep breaking me, you keep breaking me down
I don't wanna walk out
Don't wanna go down, down, down



See there's a door that you can walk through
Where there used to be a wall
I don't care, it's cool as long as you catch me baby
(Catch me when I fall) If there's ever a fall
Closer to the breakdown, the closer we get

log off and stay there

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #115 posted 03/03/20 11:52am

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Prince's songs were not all about vanity
Some were sure

When she was in dire straights medically Im sure I read he didn't exactly open the bank to help her and he had a whole lifetime to rekindle. I'm very sure he loved her but this is a bit crazy.
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Reply #116 posted 03/03/20 12:58pm

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RJOrion said:

so....."Baltimore" is about Vanity ??


I mean that one is obvious....Vanity and Prince broke up in a Baltimore hotel room during the 1983 tour. What else could it possibly be about?

The fight was over the songs "Lisa" and "Cindy C", which Vanity knew was really actully about her, and should have been called "Denise".

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Reply #117 posted 03/03/20 1:09pm

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RJOrion said:

so....."Baltimore" is about Vanity ?? "Stare" is about Vanity? "Black Muse" is about Vanity? "Big City" is about Vanity? "Shut This Down"?... Vanity? "Colonized Mind"? "Family Name"? "Silicon"? "Y Would Eye Do That When I Could Do This?"? "Musicology"? "Golden Parachute"? (LOL) "Northside"? "2045 Radical Man"? North South East West???? those about Vanity? "Kamasutra" LP which was music he composed for his wedding to Mayte, were those about Vanity, too.. SMH

The guideline I proposed is that songs are about Vanity unless it can be ruled out. That does not mean all songs are about Vanity.

(When I say Vanity it can consist of any aspect of the Vantiy/Prince relationship)

So why did you choose these particular songs? Are you serious or just trying to show me wrong by this select group? I am going to assume you are serious and want a legitimate answer, but I don't know for sure that that is the case.

Baltimore - If you read the lyrics, you can obviously rule out that it si not about Vanity.

The rest of the Hit & Run Phase Two Album is about Vanity.

Vanity is the Black Muse - extraordinaire

Big City - 'everyone's a star, to me your the most pretty'

'I'm in the big city when I'm in your arms' 'where ever we are it's the big city'

"that's it"

Shut This Down - on Hit & Run Phase Two - I've already said this is an album with Judith Hill as the main muse. But Vanity does make an appearance in a dissing way such as on X's Face, Vanity reworked songs like 1,000 X's and O's.

Family - if you read the lyrics you can rule out that it is not about Vanity. I haven't spent much time on The Rainbow Children. I find it hard to get into and Prince's Cataloge is so big. That being said. Rainbows are a recurring thing. I have theories about why but I will leave that for another time. Judith Hill even wrote a song about Prince after death called Chasing Rainbows. I believe in someway the over all theme of the album may be Vanity related.

The Slaughterhouse songs - Silicon, Y Would I Do That When I Could Do This, Golden Parachute, Northside, 3045 Radical Man . This album is an outlier for Prince. The title nor the words have anything to do with Vanity. I think we can safely rule it out.

The Instrumentals

N.E.W.S. - If you see my posting above of the Prince instagram posting of L E G A C Y. This is included. So from Prince himself, even though instrument, it is partiically Vanity inspired. I also think it is similar to Miles Davis Witches Brew album. If you see photos of Prince's large bedroom that he no longer used in the Carver County Death investigation file. There is a picture of albums lined up in front of a stereo in this room. Prince's LotusFlow3r is the center piece but Miles Davis's Witches Brew is to one side. I believe all the albums lined up are a message from Prince and part of his suicide note. So yes, taken all these clues into consideration I do believe North, East, West and South are at least partially Vanity inspired.

Kama Sutra - It is not on Prince's list of legacy items. Yet is about sex/enlightenment/fullment. So with out words and video it is hard to draw a conclusion. However, the Prince/Vanity relationship was higly sexual in nature. So it very well could be inspired by her. Mayte aside. It was release when I think he was trying to get back with Vanity also.

Musicology - is on the legacy posting list - so yes I think there is some Vanity connection to this song although losely in the sense that it was Prince's purpose and he wanted Vanity to share that purpose.

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Reply #118 posted 03/03/20 1:10pm

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lavendardrummachine said:

RJOrion said:

so....."Baltimore" is about Vanity ??


I mean that one is obvious....Vanity and Prince broke up in a Baltimore hotel room during the 1983 tour. What else could it possibly be about?

The fight was over the songs "Lisa" and "Cindy C", which Vanity knew was really actully about her, and should have been called "Denise".

Ha! So funny!

Cindy C is about Vanity. Ha!

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Reply #119 posted 03/03/20 1:20pm

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PennyPurple said:

TheTruth123 said:

Mayte was his wife. Not his protege only. Big difference. However he did do the past life regression thing with her often, as she’s talked about. Carmen Electra is the one woman who has been vocal about how prince did exactly what I said above. There’s an interview with her post-princes passing where she talks about this. (Boundaries). She said, “He was my mentor!” Orince would me for people then left them fly in their own. Yes. Sometimes as is with humans, it’s messy because feelings develop. But Carmen said Prince told her when they were together not to let anyone know she was his girlfriend because they wouldn’t take her seriously. He didn’t change in that sense. I strongly believe he and Andy had somewhat the same thing happen.

eek There is only 1 other poster (ex-poster) on this forum that has called Prince, ORINCE and that was Laura Richardson....

Since the "o" and "p" are beside each other on the keyboard, it's probably just a typo.

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