PurpleRayven said:

bashraka said:

"and I believe the producers of this show used that to create drama in this episode which is quite exploitive on their part". Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? How long has VH1 done reality shows. She's seen BBW and Love and Hip Hop. I don't know why people are surprised at Mayte's behavior. When you agree to commericially exploit your life for 15 minutes of reality tv fame, I don't want to hear her complain about editing or don't judge her. She got what she wanted.

I for one am not suprised. Nobody knew/knows the real Mayte, when she was with Prince here image and her words were all things Prince, none of which I bought into. I haven't seen the show, but read the tweets, but it's crazy to associate someone else's life choices into your life. Like I have said before the show started, she seemed to be passive agressive (go figure). My whole point with the Mayte is she is not a victim, she had choices in life and good or bad she chose to stay as gis girlfriend and then chose to get married, she could have left Prince at anytime.

Btw, who gets forced in to becoming a vegetarian, what did he force the food down her throat or something? Choices that we have in life

I remember reading an article where P said Mayte introduced him to vegetarianism/veganism. I think it was the one with Spike Lee. He said he never really cared for meat and that she was growing a garden and had made him healthier or something. Idk but she could have stood up for herself especially if the 2nd baby was by P as well and said I need to eat a certain way, take prenatal meds etc. There is an element of choice in the matter.

I don't get why people are tweeting as if Mayte just cussed Jessica out. Wasn't all of this recorded, cut, and all that jaz months ago? The cast tweeting now about it is just a part of keeping the hype up so the show gets a second season.

peri1025 said:

PurpleRayven said:

I for one am not suprised. Nobody knew/knows the real Mayte, when she was with Prince here image and her words were all things Prince, none of which I bought into. I haven't seen the show, but read the tweets, but it's crazy to associate someone else's life choices into your life. Like I have said before the show started, she seemed to be passive agressive (go figure). My whole point with the Mayte is she is not a victim, she had choices in life and good or bad she chose to stay as gis girlfriend and then chose to get married, she could have left Prince at anytime.

Btw, who gets forced in to becoming a vegetarian, what did he force the food down her throat or something? Choices that we have in life

I remember reading an article where P said Mayte introduced him to vegetarianism/veganism. I think it was the one with Spike Lee. He said he never really cared for meat and that she was growing a garden and had made him healthier or something. Idk but she could have stood up for herself especially if the 2nd baby was by P as well and said I need to eat a certain way, take prenatal meds etc. There is an element of choice in the matter.

Yes, I read that as well and he talked about it as well, but to me it was just BS and Prince being Prince, selling us BS, lol. I don't think she was a vegetarian b4 Prince. That's why I never really bought into their relationship as the greatest love story. Prince said a lot of BS concerning their relationship. Prince sells an image/idea/story everytime he opens his mouth and his relationship was no different. I just watch his interviews just to hear his voice and to look at him, cuz lawd knows I don't be really buying what he is selling, lol

My take on that BS story from the twin assistants is that, if she was not getting the prenatal care that she needed, how could she manage to sneak out and eat meat but not sneak out to get regular care, never made since to me. Aint no man going to make me not take care of my self/unborn child, sorry but Prince be damned, we got to get a divorce then we got to get a divorce!!!

But I do hate to hear that her baby/pregnancies are her platform/story line on the show. But hey that is her life/babies.

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starafree said:

RosesRred said:

You never know what the producers of this show said to Mayte to push her buttons.

Mayte's hurting and like I said before in the other thread that this show

is going to bring the worse out of her because her pain that she has

suppressed over the years are resurfacing causing her emotions to be

all over the place.

She is using Jessica as her punching bag because she sees Jessica as weak

and she is so frustrated because there is so much she wants to say,but

do to whatever Prince has dangling over her head to keep her

mouth quiet,it's driving her insane.

She is ready to explode and that is why she is showing her frustration

out on Jessica. Jessica did really good by not given in to Mayte's game.

She knows Mayte is hurting but any negative words would drive her over the

edge and calling her "crazy" was the final straw.

Was it for the camera? Only the women and the crew will know.

Hopefully, Mayte gets the help she needs. First, find a man who will

love you conditionally and then if you see that it's true love then

bring a baby in the picture. Growing a child now days are very rough.

Children today are little Monsters. They are coming out the wound texting

on their cell phone.

Is it the fact that Prince doesn't know how to handle

rejection, pain and events in his life that he can't control?

Is it the fact that Mayte is so frustrated even more

how Prince treated her during and after her pregnancy?

Only they will know.

--Love never fails.

Like I said I lost twins 7 days after they were born.You're offered couseling.Mayte had no right to off on jessice.Mayte is a 38 yr old women.When will people stop blaming prince for her problems.

It's a show that is supposed to be or try to be entertaining...the producers are looking for storylines and drama..and put the girls in situations to address the subjects that will create drama ....get a clue people. THese girls are coached to talk about certain subjects that can bring up real emotions/conflict.

NaughtyKitty said:

missfee said:

Yeah, saw tonight's episode.

Okay, any sane individual could see that this was orchestrated and scripted. As a result, Mayte is the one looking like a total fool AND as the "passive-agressive" type. Yes what she went through (and still SEEMS to be going through) is sad, but what one woman did in her past should not affect Mayte so dramatically. I understand that it appears that Mayte was going through a "moment" since receiving bad news from her fertility doc. and then reliving her past situations with losing her children, but then all of a sudden she's angry with Jessica, not for having an abortion, but with the WAY she so-called non-chalantly spoke of the topic (off camera I guess)? The producers had to do something for a dramatic factor, so they used this. Now Mayte's the one who is appearing to be this selfish, crazy woman with issues. Ahh oh well. In an episode or two, they'll talk and apologize just like nothing happened (like with Jess and Sheree this episode ).

Tonite's episode was just---ridiculous and left me Its scenes like that--with Mayte getting into it with Jessica--that make people say that reality TV is scripted and fake. Even the earlier scene with Jessica and Sheree "reconciling" with each other looked forced, fake and orchestrated. But tonite's episode was a hot mess. I understand that Mayte is still dealing with the hurt and anger of losing two babies, clearly she hasnt even begun the healing process yet, but going after Jessica the way she did was just so out of left field, irrational and unecessary. Like someone else here said--was that real, or for real? At times it felt surreal lol. I mean, like Mayte couldnt have had this conversation with Jessica in private? She just had to have it in a public restaurant with ALL the girls and in front of the camera crew? Give me a break! Jessica said and even Nicole confirmed that Jessica had reached out to Mayte twice beforehand via text but Mayte didnt respond to her texts. And then Jessica apologizing repeatedly and wanting to move on from the topic and Mayte not satisfied with the apologies and not wanting to let it go but wanting to have it out with Jessica and breaking that glass... Mayte did not come out of this looking good. In fact, none of the ladies look good now. In tonite's episode they all managed to turn into the catty, petty, immature women we see on most reality tv shows. Except for Nicole who was as cool and classy as ever. But Mayte's tirade against Jessica made her look foolish and uh, a bit unstable. Its unfortunate actually, because obviously this is a very sensitive and painful issue that she is still dealing with, and I believe the producers of this show used that to create drama in this episode which is quite exploitive on their part. Reality tv shows may not necessarily be scripted, but they definitely are staged, all for the sake of ratings because drama makes people tune in and watch which is unfortunate Next week's episode should be interesting, but I am disappointed with tonite's episode and disappointed with Mayte's (over) reaction.

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Nicole is kind of like how Shaunie is on BBW....since she has something to do with the show behind the scenes, she steers clear of the drama and just sit and watches everyone else fall apart.

missfee said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Tonite's episode was just---ridiculous and left me Its scenes like that--with Mayte getting into it with Jessica--that make people say that reality TV is scripted and fake. Even the earlier scene with Jessica and Sheree "reconciling" with each other looked forced, fake and orchestrated. But tonite's episode was a hot mess. I understand that Mayte is still dealing with the hurt and anger of losing two babies, clearly she hasnt even begun the healing process yet, but going after Jessica the way she did was just so out of left field, irrational and unecessary. Like someone else here said--was that real, or for real? At times it felt surreal lol. I mean, like Mayte couldnt have had this conversation with Jessica in private? She just had to have it in a public restaurant with ALL the girls and in front of the camera crew? Give me a break! Jessica said and even Nicole confirmed that Jessica had reached out to Mayte twice beforehand via text but Mayte didnt respond to her texts. And then Jessica apologizing repeatedly and wanting to move on from the topic and Mayte not satisfied with the apologies and not wanting to let it go but wanting to have it out with Jessica and breaking that glass... Mayte did not come out of this looking good. In fact, none of the ladies look good now. In tonite's episode they all managed to turn into the catty, petty, immature women we see on most reality tv shows. Except for Nicole who was as cool and classy as ever. But Mayte's tirade against Jessica made her look foolish and uh, a bit unstable. Its unfortunate actually, because obviously this is a very sensitive and painful issue that she is still dealing with, and I believe the producers of this show used that to create drama in this episode which is quite exploitive on their part. Reality tv shows may not necessarily be scripted, but they definitely are staged, all for the sake of ratings because drama makes people tune in and watch which is unfortunate Next week's episode should be interesting, but I am disappointed with tonite's episode and disappointed with Mayte's (over) reaction.

[Edited 8/8/12 22:06pm]

Nicole is kind of like how Shaunie is on BBW....since she has something to do with the show behind the scenes, she steers clear of the drama and just sit and watches everyone else fall apart.

My thought exactly! And with the rumor that Tracey Edmonds will be joining next season...

mimi02 said:

missfee said:

Nicole is kind of like how Shaunie is on BBW....since she has something to do with the show behind the scenes, she steers clear of the drama and just sit and watches everyone else fall apart.

My thought exactly! And with the rumor that Tracey Edmonds will be joining next season...

Urgh, I hope it's just a rumor. Why would there be a need to have Tracey Edmonds on there for? So her and Nicole can compare notes and just "touch" on the subject of Eddie? That's like them asking Manuela to join the cast. Worthless move.

I missed this episode and will definitely have to play catch up, but I have a few questions:

1. I thought the baby she lost (miscarried) was Tommy Lee's so what does Prince and being a vegan have to do with that? She could have eaten whatever she wanted.

2. Why at 38 has this woman not seeked therapy for her non-baby issues? For it to have gone on this long and to still be so emotional about it is questionable. I understand she cannot talk in public, but therapy is private and she could have all the help she needed/needs?

3. Reality Check - Just because you have issues in your life does not mean I have to alter my life to your delicate sensibilities. Jessica getting an abortion has nothing to do with Mayte's miscarriage or loss.

4. If you really wanted a baby all this time, do what so many others do ---- adopt. Orphanages are fileld with so many children who want and need a loving home. It does not HAVE to be biological.

I always thought there was something off about Mayte......she was just too sweet and no one can be that sweet all the time.

Ottensen said:

2elijah said:

So true. I guess in order to have a season 2 there has to be some drama created. I remember watching some episodes of the first 'Love & Hip-Hop' and the reason Jim Jones' live-in gf didn't want to do the show anymore is because one of the female producers, tried to force them to do some personal drama she didn't want to do, and both her and Jim said they no longer wanted any part of it, basically because the show intefered with their personal lives. (Yes I know, I can't believe I used to watch that show..lol) One of the producers of that show is an African-American female, who I think used to be a host on either Entertainment tonight or Access Hollywood, so yeah, these shows are about drama and ratings.

[Edited 8/6/12 10:56am]

I'm not sure but I think you're talking about Mona Scott Young, aka The Barracuda. She's huge. She did have some gig on one of those Hollywood reporter shows, but her real power lies in the fact that she used to manage high profile hip hip and r&b stars. After the golden age of hip-hop dried up, she morphed her management agency into this megamedia firm that not only does artist management, but went into the film &tv production biz, a digital company, and an animation house. She's certafiably rich as hell.

I remember Chrissy Lampkin/Lumpkin (whatever that child's name is) speaking out on several situations that were pre-fabbed by Mona for L&HHNY. Things like showing up for filming in a spot where she's supposed to be out enjoying herself with her friends, and the person she most dislikes in their filming group suddenly showing up out of nowhere. We all know that reality show producers are going to pull these stunts and try to manipulate conversations in the best way to serve for drama in these shows, but according to Chrissy, Mona's people would still orchestrate these situations after she requested them not to, knowing how out of control things would get with the course they were on from previous fights. So she & Jim left the show.

And for Mimi's bolded part; the show is co-produced by SHED Media, the folks who also produced the travesty that has become Basketball Wives, so you know if they had the room to, they might try to make this show into the gutter trash of their last few seasons on tv, however; they got such vehement public backlash from the foolery they produced last reality cycle, I suspect that's why they're not going to get too out of control with the ladies on this Exes...God willing.

Yes that is her. I also agree with the bolded part of your post. Chrissy and Jim were smart to leave the show. I think this show will do more damage than good to some of these women's lives. I think whatever it is Mayte is going through at the rate she is having the audience believe, seems like it should be dealt with without the camera on, but then again that may be the only thing she has to go on, and I think the producers are pushing her to stay on it, to keep her relevancy to the show. Sadly, after last night's episode some parts did not come across genuine, and then when she basically went after Jessica, something just seemed 'off'. It was like the shy Mayte at the beginning of the show was gone, and another personality surfaced. Interesting to say the least.

BklynDiamond said:

I missed this episode and will definitely have to play catch up, but I have a few questions:

1. I thought the baby she lost (miscarried) was Tommy Lee's so what does Prince and being a vegan have to do with that? She could have eaten whatever she wanted.

2. Why at 38 has this woman not seeked therapy for her non-baby issues? For it to have gone on this long and to still be so emotional about it is questionable. I understand she cannot talk in public, but therapy is private and she could have all the help she needed/needs?

3. Reality Check - Just because you have issues in your life does not mean I have to alter my life to your delicate sensibilities. Jessica getting an abortion has nothing to do with Mayte's miscarriage or loss.

4. If you really wanted a baby all this time, do what so many others do ---- adopt. Orphanages are fileld with so many children who want and need a loving home. It does not HAVE to be biological.

I always thought there was something off about Mayte......she was just too sweet and no one can be that sweet all the time.

I agree, I think it is rather strange to wait until you have a reality show to obsess with wanting to have a child so bad, after about 15 years. She could have adopt by this time, and how come the option of adoption was never mentioned to her by the other ladies she was conversing with in the last episode. There is the option of adoption. I'm wondering if the fertility clinic visit was genuine or was just for the show to fit her desperation and make it believable to the audience. Somehow I think her behavior towards Jessica in yesterday's episode may backfire. Nicole just threw the whole thing over her shoulder and ignored it, but was not happy with Mayte's behavior. Seeing how she is one of the producers of the show, and how her and Jessica are friends . Even during Mayte saying what she said to Jessica, Andrea was looking at Mayte like something was off, and then Andrea said, "This is insane". I don't mean to say anything bad about Mayte, but that whole scene just seemed a bit 'off', confusing and seemed to have left viewers shaking their heads like "'What the (fill in blank) just happened?"

[Edited 8/9/12 6:36am]

2elijah said:

BklynDiamond said:

I missed this episode and will definitely have to play catch up, but I have a few questions:

1. I thought the baby she lost (miscarried) was Tommy Lee's so what does Prince and being a vegan have to do with that? She could have eaten whatever she wanted.

2. Why at 38 has this woman not seeked therapy for her non-baby issues? For it to have gone on this long and to still be so emotional about it is questionable. I understand she cannot talk in public, but therapy is private and she could have all the help she needed/needs?

3. Reality Check - Just because you have issues in your life does not mean I have to alter my life to your delicate sensibilities. Jessica getting an abortion has nothing to do with Mayte's miscarriage or loss.

4. If you really wanted a baby all this time, do what so many others do ---- adopt. Orphanages are fileld with so many children who want and need a loving home. It does not HAVE to be biological.

I always thought there was something off about Mayte......she was just too sweet and no one can be that sweet all the time.

I agree, I think it is rather strange to wait until you have a reality show to obsess with wanting to have a child so bad, after about 15 years. She could have adopt by this time, and how come the option of adoption was never mentioned to her by the other ladies she was conversing with yesterday. There is the option of adoption. I'm wondering if the fertility clinic visit was genuine or was just for the show to fit her desperation and make it believable to the audience. Somehow I think her behavior towards Jessica in yesterday's episode may backfire. Nicole just threw the whole thing over her shoulder and ignored it, but was not happy with Mayte's behavior. Seeing how she is one of the producers of the show, and how her and Jessica are friends . Even during Mayte saying what she said to Jessica, Andrea was looking at Mayte like something was off, and then Andrea said, "This is insane". I don't mean to say anything bad about Mayte, but that whole scene just seemed a bit 'off', confusing and seemed to have left viewers shaking their heads like "'What the (fill in blank) just happened?"

I have nothing against Mayte, I don't know the woman, but it just seems strange to me that in all this time she never even thought about adoption? never was in any other serious relationship with any other man (other than Prince and Tommy Lee) to consider marriage and children?

She is a very attractive woman, and seems very sweet, but kinda like Halle, I wonder if the relationship problems are more her than them. I find it hard to believe that after all this time this beautiful, sweet woman could not meet ONE man. Her friends never fixed her up?

There is more to this.....and I do think the baby thing is being played up for the show or she is in need of serious therapy. No one is saying get over it, but she should have made peace and moved forward by now.

BklynDiamond said:

I missed this episode and will definitely have to play catch up, but I have a few questions:

1. I thought the baby she lost (miscarried) was Tommy Lee's so what does Prince and being a vegan have to do with that? She could have eaten whatever she wanted.

2. Why at 38 has this woman not seeked therapy for her non-baby issues? For it to have gone on this long and to still be so emotional about it is questionable. I understand she cannot talk in public, but therapy is private and she could have all the help she needed/needs?

3. Reality Check - Just because you have issues in your life does not mean I have to alter my life to your delicate sensibilities. Jessica getting an abortion has nothing to do with Mayte's miscarriage or loss.

4. If you really wanted a baby all this time, do what so many others do ---- adopt. Orphanages are fileld with so many children who want and need a loving home. It does not HAVE to be biological.

I always thought there was something off about Mayte......she was just too sweet and no one can be that sweet all the time.

This I wonder. Although maybe she has but if so it sure hasn't gotten her anywhere. I know she was in therapy with Tommy Lee for their "issues" right after she started dating him (which you would think would have been a big red flag- if you have to go to therapy BEFORE you even tie the knot) but she's never addressed having therapy after the loss of the baby (s) which she definately needs!

BklynDiamond said:

2elijah said:

I agree, I think it is rather strange to wait until you have a reality show to obsess with wanting to have a child so bad, after about 15 years. She could have adopt by this time, and how come the option of adoption was never mentioned to her by the other ladies she was conversing with yesterday. There is the option of adoption. I'm wondering if the fertility clinic visit was genuine or was just for the show to fit her desperation and make it believable to the audience. Somehow I think her behavior towards Jessica in yesterday's episode may backfire. Nicole just threw the whole thing over her shoulder and ignored it, but was not happy with Mayte's behavior. Seeing how she is one of the producers of the show, and how her and Jessica are friends . Even during Mayte saying what she said to Jessica, Andrea was looking at Mayte like something was off, and then Andrea said, "This is insane". I don't mean to say anything bad about Mayte, but that whole scene just seemed a bit 'off', confusing and seemed to have left viewers shaking their heads like "'What the (fill in blank) just happened?"

I have nothing against Mayte, I don't know the woman, but it just seems strange to me that in all this time she never even thought about adoption? never was in any other serious relationship with any other man (other than Prince and Tommy Lee) to consider marriage and children?

She is a very attractive woman, and seems very sweet, but kinda like Halle, I wonder if the relationship problems are more her than them. I find it hard to believe that after all this time this beautiful, sweet woman could not meet ONE man. Her friends never fixed her up?

There is more to this.....and I do think the baby thing is being played up for the show or she is in need of serious therapy. No one is saying get over it, but she should have made peace and moved forward by now.

People are afraid to say this but this is true; Time does help to heal and it has been 15 years. No one should ever say "get over it" and of course she can't and never will but her acting as if it happened yesterday , seems a little questionable imo. Just feels like she's giving the producers what they want so they can get a second season.

BklynDiamond said:

2elijah said:

I agree, I think it is rather strange to wait until you have a reality show to obsess with wanting to have a child so bad, after about 15 years. She could have adopt by this time, and how come the option of adoption was never mentioned to her by the other ladies she was conversing with yesterday. There is the option of adoption. I'm wondering if the fertility clinic visit was genuine or was just for the show to fit her desperation and make it believable to the audience. Somehow I think her behavior towards Jessica in yesterday's episode may backfire. Nicole just threw the whole thing over her shoulder and ignored it, but was not happy with Mayte's behavior. Seeing how she is one of the producers of the show, and how her and Jessica are friends . Even during Mayte saying what she said to Jessica, Andrea was looking at Mayte like something was off, and then Andrea said, "This is insane". I don't mean to say anything bad about Mayte, but that whole scene just seemed a bit 'off', confusing and seemed to have left viewers shaking their heads like "'What the (fill in blank) just happened?"

I have nothing against Mayte, I don't know the woman, but it just seems strange to me that in all this time she never even thought about adoption? never was in any other serious relationship with any other man (other than Prince and Tommy Lee) to consider marriage and children?

She is a very attractive woman, and seems very sweet, but kinda like Halle, I wonder if the relationship problems are more her than them. I find it hard to believe that after all this time this beautiful, sweet woman could not meet ONE man. Her friends never fixed her up?

There is more to this.....and I do think the baby thing is being played up for the show or she is in need of serious therapy. No one is saying get over it, but she should have made peace and moved forward by now.

Exactly, and if she stated that when she went to the fertility clinic, all the past feelings of losing a child came up, didn't she expect that the physician would ask her if she had any previous pregnancies. Like you, I am not saying she should 'get over it', but the whole thing just seems kind of awkward, if she complains about those feelings returning, but yet she is the one bringing it up all the time during the show and finding every reason to keep that as part of the show.

If this is how she really feels and this is not something the producers are coaxing her to keep bringing up, then I agree she needs some serious therapy, because watching that scene in the last episode and how she was giving Jessica the evil eye, like she wanted to jump across the room and choke Jessica to death, well, something just did not seem right, and if that personal issue is that deep and no one around you can talk about children, then she needs to seek therapy. I think that when Jessica saw Mayte 'acting off', she probably should have completely ignored her or suggested that they walk away from the other ladies, and go in another area of the restaurant to sort out tension between them.

What is questionable is that Tommy Lee had kids and I assume that when she was with him, she had to be around the kids sometimes, and even when they were no longer together she had time to adopt a child. Usually that is the next option if someone is that desperate for children. If she is promoting adopting animals, and have several animals in her home, which requires time and care, then why not adopt a child? Just sayin'.

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lauralevesque said:

BklynDiamond said:

I have nothing against Mayte, I don't know the woman, but it just seems strange to me that in all this time she never even thought about adoption? never was in any other serious relationship with any other man (other than Prince and Tommy Lee) to consider marriage and children?

She is a very attractive woman, and seems very sweet, but kinda like Halle, I wonder if the relationship problems are more her than them. I find it hard to believe that after all this time this beautiful, sweet woman could not meet ONE man. Her friends never fixed her up?

There is more to this.....and I do think the baby thing is being played up for the show or she is in need of serious therapy. No one is saying get over it, but she should have made peace and moved forward by now.

People are afraid to say this but this is true; Time does help to heal and it has been 15 years. No one should ever say "get over it" and of course she can't and never will but her acting as if it happened yesterday , seems a little questionable imo. Just feels like she's giving the producers what they want so they can get a second season.

I don't want to feel guilty for saying this over someone who seems to desperately want a child, but I have to agree with you on that last part of your post, and honestly, lawd, I hope I don't catch raspberries from other posters for saying this... but...... to use her deceased child to promote getting attention to her acting skills and a second season, seems a bit ingenuine and selfish. I'm sorry but that is the way it seems to be coming across, and with the swearing and carrying on is showing a very, different side of Mayte, from the shy personality from the previous episodes. Her behavior in that last episode was scary because as a viewer, the whole scene was questionable and something just did not seem genuine about her emotions. If the intention was to bring some type of drama to get a second season, then she got over with doing that in that last episode.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:02am]

lauralevesque said:

BklynDiamond said:

I have nothing against Mayte, I don't know the woman, but it just seems strange to me that in all this time she never even thought about adoption? never was in any other serious relationship with any other man (other than Prince and Tommy Lee) to consider marriage and children?

She is a very attractive woman, and seems very sweet, but kinda like Halle, I wonder if the relationship problems are more her than them. I find it hard to believe that after all this time this beautiful, sweet woman could not meet ONE man. Her friends never fixed her up?

There is more to this.....and I do think the baby thing is being played up for the show or she is in need of serious therapy. No one is saying get over it, but she should have made peace and moved forward by now.

People are afraid to say this but this is true; Time does help to heal and it has been 15 years. No one should ever say "get over it" and of course she can't and never will but her acting as if it happened yesterday , seems a little questionable imo. Just feels like she's giving the producers what they want so they can get a second season.

Thank you because this is all it is. Folks on here say that Mayte is an actress right? Well couldn't this all be an act for the cameras (to get their 2nd season as you stated)?

2elijah said:

lauralevesque said:

People are afraid to say this but this is true; Time does help to heal and it has been 15 years. No one should ever say "get over it" and of course she can't and never will but her acting as if it happened yesterday , seems a little questionable imo. Just feels like she's giving the producers what they want so they can get a second season.

I don't want to feel guilty for saying this over someone who seems to desperately want a child, but I have to agree with you on that last part of your post, and honestly, lawd, I hope I don't catch raspberries from other posters for saying this... but...... to use her deceased child to promote getting attention to her acting skills and a second season, seems a bit ingenuine and selfish. I'm sorry but that is the way it seems to be coming across, and with the swearing and carrying on is showing a very, different side of Mayte, from the shy personality from the previous episodes.

Ironically, her cursing seemed natural, so I don't doubt that she uses those words regular...perhaps her "sweet side" is the real act. But as for the first part I bolded, I think that's exactly the case. She's getting her acting skills on in this show. Especially when she knocked over the glass and then threw one on the floor. I guess the producers told her to do something without seeming like she was going to go over and tear Jessica's hair out by the root, so the best thing she could think of was throw the glass on the floor.

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missfee said:

lauralevesque said:

People are afraid to say this but this is true; Time does help to heal and it has been 15 years. No one should ever say "get over it" and of course she can't and never will but her acting as if it happened yesterday , seems a little questionable imo. Just feels like she's giving the producers what they want so they can get a second season.

Thank you because this is all it is. Folks on here say that Mayte is an actress right? Well couldn't this all be an act for the cameras (to get their 2nd season as you stated)?

I think so too. I believe her 'character' is to play the ex-wife of a rock star and pretend she is somehow still obsessed with him, by displaying the personal wedding china, his clothes, and drawing sympathy from viewers of a woman approaching her 40s, still grieving over the loss of her child or children, desperate to now find a new love interest and her quest to have children.

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missfee said:

2elijah said:

I don't want to feel guilty for saying this over someone who seems to desperately want a child, but I have to agree with you on that last part of your post, and honestly, lawd, I hope I don't catch raspberries from other posters for saying this... but...... to use her deceased child to promote getting attention to her acting skills and a second season, seems a bit ingenuine and selfish. I'm sorry but that is the way it seems to be coming across, and with the swearing and carrying on is showing a very, different side of Mayte, from the shy personality from the previous episodes.

Ironically, her cursing seemed natural, so I don't doubt that she uses those words regular...perhaps her "sweet side" is the real act. But as for the first part I bolded, I think that's exactly the case. She's getting her acting skills on in this show. Especially when she knocked over the glass and then threw one on the floor. I guess the producers told her to do something without seeming like she was going to go over and tear Jessica's hair out by the root, so the best thing she could think of was throw the glass on the floor.

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@ bolded part. When Mayte made a comment similar to Jessica needing a can of whoopass, I was like, lawd have mercy, please don't let Mayte's Caribbean side come out. That whole scene played by Mayte was very odd. It came out of nowhere. The only thing that was missing was the 'deep Darth Vader voice, in slow motion', when Mayte gave Jessica that strange stare, and out of the blue, said something like "There is an elephant in the room" :shock: ....then everybody got quiet.

Yes, for sure after that, expect a second season of Hollywood Exes. As a matter of fact, Mayte may have saved the show.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:20am]

2elijah said:

missfee said:

Thank you because this is all it is. Folks on here say that Mayte is an actress right? Well couldn't this all be an act for the cameras (to get their 2nd season as you stated)?

I think so too. I believe her 'character' is to play the ex-wife of a rock star and pretend she is somehow still obsessed with him, by displaying the personal wedding china, his clothes, and drawing sympathy from viewers of a woman approaching her 40s, still grieving over the loss of her child or children, desperate to now find a new love interest and her quest to have children.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:08am]

I SO much agree with this- this is the conclusion I came to as well after watching that episode where she's standing in front of the Prince china, with all the girls and she says, "I have some.....some of his......clothes" as if it were some of his freakin hair or something. And then they go back and she has like, 2 shirts, AT THE READY! hanging on the rack with her clothes? Please- if she weren't planning on bringing everyone back there- those things would have been either protected by plastic bag or in a special Prince symbol box- not hanging on the rack in between her shirts- this is feeling all fake to me!

2elijah said:

missfee said:

Ironically, her cursing seemed natural, so I don't doubt that she uses those words regular...perhaps her "sweet side" is the real act. But as for the first part I bolded, I think that's exactly the case. She's getting her acting skills on in this show. Especially when she knocked over the glass and then threw one on the floor. I guess the producers told her to do something without seeming like she was going to go over and tear Jessica's hair out by the root, so the best thing she could think of was throw the glass on the floor.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:03am]

@ bolded part. When Mayte made a comment similar to Jessica needing a can of whoopass, I was like, lawd have mercy, please don't let Mayte's Caribbean side come out and start speaking in tongue. That whole scene played by Mayte was very odd. It came out of nowhere. The only thing that was missing was the 'deep Darth Vader voice, in slow motion', when Mayte gave Jessica that strange stare, and out of the blue, said something like "There is an elephant in the room" :shock: ....then everybody got quiet.

Yes, for sure after that, expect a second season of Hollywood Exes. As a matter of fact, Mayte may have saved the show.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:19am]

Did anyone else find this hella akward? it was so strange- such strange timing- it was like, everyone was good and there was no problem and she was hell bent on making a problem. It was hard to watch. she looked stupid. she should have just said, "jessica, can you come outside please?"

2elijah said:

BklynDiamond said:

I missed this episode and will definitely have to play catch up, but I have a few questions:

1. I thought the baby she lost (miscarried) was Tommy Lee's so what does Prince and being a vegan have to do with that? She could have eaten whatever she wanted.

2. Why at 38 has this woman not seeked therapy for her non-baby issues? For it to have gone on this long and to still be so emotional about it is questionable. I understand she cannot talk in public, but therapy is private and she could have all the help she needed/needs?

3. Reality Check - Just because you have issues in your life does not mean I have to alter my life to your delicate sensibilities. Jessica getting an abortion has nothing to do with Mayte's miscarriage or loss.

4. If you really wanted a baby all this time, do what so many others do ---- adopt. Orphanages are fileld with so many children who want and need a loving home. It does not HAVE to be biological.

I always thought there was something off about Mayte......she was just too sweet and no one can be that sweet all the time.

I agree, I think it is rather strange to wait until you have a reality show to obsess with wanting to have a child so bad, after about 15 years. She could have adopt by this time, and how come the option of adoption was never mentioned to her by the other ladies she was conversing with in the last episode. There is the option of adoption. I'm wondering if the fertility clinic visit was genuine or was just for the show to fit her desperation and make it believable to the audience. Somehow I think her behavior towards Jessica in yesterday's episode may backfire. Nicole just threw the whole thing over her shoulder and ignored it, but was not happy with Mayte's behavior. Seeing how she is one of the producers of the show, and how her and Jessica are friends . Even during Mayte saying what she said to Jessica, Andrea was looking at Mayte like something was off, and then Andrea said, "This is insane". I don't mean to say anything bad about Mayte, but that whole scene just seemed a bit 'off', confusing and seemed to have left viewers shaking their heads like "'What the (fill in blank) just happened?"

[Edited 8/9/12 6:36am]

Agree with this especially the bolded. That whole scene and Mayte's OTT behavior was definitely off. I think there was staging and coaching that went on behind the scenes from the producers in order to create a dramatic scene, but Mayte went overboard with it imo. "Reality" TV.

lauralevesque said:

2elijah said:

@ bolded part. When Mayte made a comment similar to Jessica needing a can of whoopass, I was like, lawd have mercy, please don't let Mayte's Caribbean side come out and start speaking in tongue. That whole scene played by Mayte was very odd. It came out of nowhere. The only thing that was missing was the 'deep Darth Vader voice, in slow motion', when Mayte gave Jessica that strange stare, and out of the blue, said something like "There is an elephant in the room" :shock: ....then everybody got quiet.

Yes, for sure after that, expect a second season of Hollywood Exes. As a matter of fact, Mayte may have saved the show.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:19am]

Did anyone else find this hella akward? it was so strange- such strange timing- it was like, everyone was good and there was no problem and she was hell bent on making a problem. It was hard to watch. she looked stupid. she should have just said, "jessica, can you come outside please?"

YES!

lauralevesque said:

2elijah said:

I think so too. I believe her 'character' is to play the ex-wife of a rock star and pretend she is somehow still obsessed with him, by displaying the personal wedding china, his clothes, and drawing sympathy from viewers of a woman approaching her 40s, still grieving over the loss of her child or children, desperate to now find a new love interest and her quest to have children.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:08am]

I SO much agree with this- this is the conclusion I came to as well after watching that episode where she's standing in front of the Prince china, with all the girls and she says, "I have some.....some of his......clothes" as if it were some of his freakin hair or something. And then they go back and she has like, 2 shirts, AT THE READY! hanging on the rack with her clothes? Please- if she weren't planning on bringing everyone back there- those things would have been either protected by plastic bag or in a special Prince symbol box- not hanging on the rack in between her shirts- this is feeling all fake to me!

Very true. After almost 16 years why would you have your ex's clothes hanging on the rack in your closet? What is she expecting him to walk through the door doing a Ricky Ricardo impression and saying "Hoonneey, I'm hoommmme!!"

All the ladies had to have something attached to them to validate being a 'Hollywood Ex': With Mayte bringing up the loss of her child, displaying her wedding china, have P's clothes on the racks ready-to-show, plays into Mayte's character and reminds viewers of who Mayte was married to, to 'validate' her relevancy on the show, as a Hollywood Ex;you'd think by now the producers wouldn't keep putting the caption up there, reminding viewers who her ex-husband was, as a way to keep them interested in Mayte's 'character' on the show.

When she was with Tommy did she have the china on display and P's clothes hanging in her closet? This is why I agree with you. Like I said I would never degrade a parent for the loss of a child, but something just doesn't seem genuine after that scene in the last episode with Mayte, and I found myself questioning is this all for the cameras? A desperate attempt at an acting career in Hollywood? I don't know. Just seems too obvious that she may be using her life with her ex-husband and his name, and loss of their child as a 'pass into Hollywood' for an acting career. Then again, I could be wrong.

[Edited 8/9/12 8:09am]

NaughtyKitty said:

2elijah said:

I agree, I think it is rather strange to wait until you have a reality show to obsess with wanting to have a child so bad, after about 15 years. She could have adopt by this time, and how come the option of adoption was never mentioned to her by the other ladies she was conversing with in the last episode. There is the option of adoption. I'm wondering if the fertility clinic visit was genuine or was just for the show to fit her desperation and make it believable to the audience. Somehow I think her behavior towards Jessica in yesterday's episode may backfire. Nicole just threw the whole thing over her shoulder and ignored it, but was not happy with Mayte's behavior. Seeing how she is one of the producers of the show, and how her and Jessica are friends . Even during Mayte saying what she said to Jessica, Andrea was looking at Mayte like something was off, and then Andrea said, "This is insane". I don't mean to say anything bad about Mayte, but that whole scene just seemed a bit 'off', confusing and seemed to have left viewers shaking their heads like "'What the (fill in blank) just happened?"

[Edited 8/9/12 6:36am]

Agree with this especially the bolded. That whole scene and Mayte's OTT behavior was definitely off. I think there was staging and coaching that went on behind the scenes from the producers in order to create a dramatic scene, but Mayte went overboard with it imo. "Reality" TV.

I think in the next episode Nicole tells Mayte her behavior was a bit OTT. Maybe the producers told her during the filming of previous episodes that she had to bring out something about her life and relevancy on the show or felt she was too laid back, because last night's episode and how she presented herself in it, seem a bit overplayed. Even Nicole dismissed it as 'fake' and was more interested in ordering food to eat. Nicole definitely made it known that Mayte's actions was unnecessary and the 'throwing of the glass' was a bit tacky. Maybe Nicole doesn't want the show to go the route like the ugliness of the other Reality shows. The whole Mayte vs Jessica scene was strange. If there's a second season, and with Tracy Edmonds and another Hollywood Ex coming on, the show will have room to cut out the 'uninteresting' personalities, like other Reality shows have done.

lauralevesque said:

2elijah said:

@ bolded part. When Mayte made a comment similar to Jessica needing a can of whoopass, I was like, lawd have mercy, please don't let Mayte's Caribbean side come out and start speaking in tongue. That whole scene played by Mayte was very odd. It came out of nowhere. The only thing that was missing was the 'deep Darth Vader voice, in slow motion', when Mayte gave Jessica that strange stare, and out of the blue, said something like "There is an elephant in the room" :shock: ....then everybody got quiet.

Yes, for sure after that, expect a second season of Hollywood Exes. As a matter of fact, Mayte may have saved the show.

[Edited 8/9/12 7:19am]

Did anyone else find this hella akward? it was so strange- such strange timing- it was like, everyone was good and there was no problem and she was hell bent on making a problem. It was hard to watch. she looked stupid. she should have just said, "jessica, can you come outside please?"

I was waiting for Mayte to do a 'Linda Blair head spin' the way she was eyeballing Jessica.

PurpleRayven said:

peri1025 said:

I remember reading an article where P said Mayte introduced him to vegetarianism/veganism. I think it was the one with Spike Lee. He said he never really cared for meat and that she was growing a garden and had made him healthier or something. Idk but she could have stood up for herself especially if the 2nd baby was by P as well and said I need to eat a certain way, take prenatal meds etc. There is an element of choice in the matter.

Yes, I read that as well and he talked about it as well, but to me it was just BS and Prince being Prince, selling us BS, lol. I don't think she was a vegetarian b4 Prince. That's why I never really bought into their relationship as the greatest love story. Prince said a lot of BS concerning their relationship. Prince sells an image/idea/story everytime he opens his mouth and his relationship was no different. I just watch his interviews just to hear his voice and to look at him, cuz lawd knows I don't be really buying what he is selling, lol

My take on that BS story from the twin assistants is that, if she was getting the prenatal care that she needed, how could she manage to sneak out and eat meat but not sneak out to get regular care, never made since to me. Aint no man going to make me not take care of my self/unborn child, sorry but Prince be damned, we got to get a divorce then we got to get a divorce!!!

But I do hate to hear that her baby/pregnancies are her platform/story line on the show. But hey that is her life/babies.

lauralevesque said:

BklynDiamond said:

I missed this episode and will definitely have to play catch up, but I have a few questions:

1. I thought the baby she lost (miscarried) was Tommy Lee's so what does Prince and being a vegan have to do with that? She could have eaten whatever she wanted.

2. Why at 38 has this woman not seeked therapy for her non-baby issues? For it to have gone on this long and to still be so emotional about it is questionable. I understand she cannot talk in public, but therapy is private and she could have all the help she needed/needs?

3. Reality Check - Just because you have issues in your life does not mean I have to alter my life to your delicate sensibilities. Jessica getting an abortion has nothing to do with Mayte's miscarriage or loss.

4. If you really wanted a baby all this time, do what so many others do ---- adopt. Orphanages are fileld with so many children who want and need a loving home. It does not HAVE to be biological.

I always thought there was something off about Mayte......she was just too sweet and no one can be that sweet all the time.

This I wonder. Although maybe she has but if so it sure hasn't gotten her anywhere. I know she was in therapy with Tommy Lee for their "issues" right after she started dating him (which you would think would have been a big red flag- if you have to go to therapy BEFORE you even tie the knot) but she's never addressed having therapy after the loss of the baby (s) which she definately needs!

prodigalfan said:

lauralevesque said:

This I wonder. Although maybe she has but if so it sure hasn't gotten her anywhere. I know she was in therapy with Tommy Lee for their "issues" right after she started dating him (which you would think would have been a big red flag- if you have to go to therapy BEFORE you even tie the knot) but she's never addressed having therapy after the loss of the baby (s) which she definately needs!

never heard this before. And the hits just keeping coming... Really Mayte?? I like Mayte... and I am still on Team Mayte... but she needs to have a seat. Please please don't do another season of this show. It is really messing up your image of sweet and pretty. Now coming off as a crazy bitch. It is not a good look for you.

It was all part of the Tommy Lee documentary- It shows them walking into the therapists office and sitting down and he does a voice over saying something like, "I love Mayte- she's such a sweet girl but we've got issues to work on before we can get married" ( I think they were actually engaged at the time) it was just very strange. Like, really? Should they really be getting married? And yes, this show is definately changing the way I see her, unfortunately. I'm feeling like she doesn't just want a "man" she wants a "rock star" and I also see (where I didn't before) her mother's "stage mother" type- role in all of this. I don't know....

missfee said:

lauralevesque said:

People are afraid to say this but this is true; Time does help to heal and it has been 15 years. No one should ever say "get over it" and of course she can't and never will but her acting as if it happened yesterday , seems a little questionable imo. Just feels like she's giving the producers what they want so they can get a second season.

Thank you because this is all it is. Folks on here say that Mayte is an actress right? Well couldn't this all be an act for the cameras (to get their 2nd season as you stated)?

If she was acting, that was terrible because the overwhelming concensus is "what the f just happened here". It made no sense. Did you see the way she smacked the glasses off the table? It was so awkward looking, like she didn't know how to properly throw a "staged" temper tantrum. I never bought into Mayte's overly sweet persona. She needs to just be real - and last night was not real even if it was the flipside of what she's used to portraying. It was too over-the-top and awkward.

One thing I found interesting was that she called Jessica passive-aggressive...sounds like the pot calling the kettle...