BklynDiamond said:

starafree said:

Please people on here act as if prince really could have stop her from talking about her baby if she wanted to.She made the choice to appear on the today show& and oprah.She made the choice to be on a show called hollywood exe.Like I've said I understand the personal pain of child lost.I'm just tired of her playing the victim.Acting as if she had no choices.If she can't talk about her life with prince because of a gag order.She made the choice to sign it.She's the one keeping herself tied to him.Personally I think all of this I can't move on stick is for the show.She moved on when she was in the limo with tommy on his realty show talking about she wanted sex.She moved on when she was with wade robson.I have nothing against mayte I just don't by prince was the worst thing that could have happened to her.plus she's this victim.I think he probly wasn't as nice to her as he could have been.But she stayed until he left her.

[Edited 8/29/12 23:04pm]

I don't understand how Prince kept her from talking about it. The only way for her to grieve is in a public forum for everyone to see? Everyone knew they had a baby and that baby died. It was not a secret.

She had friends and family and she could have gone to therapy easily to move past her loss. The only thing he did was keep her from taking a private moment and making it public.....or do people forget HE LOST A CHILD AS WELL.

I think that is the thing that makes me angry.....women aren't the only ones who feel the loss of a child. Men go through the whole experience with their significant others, they feel the baby kick, dream of meeting their child.....the only thing they do not do is carry and give birth. They experience the loss of the child just as much as the women do, but for some reason they are always discounted and pushed aside.

This was/is a very private man who went through a very public loss. He wanted (as he does with everything) to keep his private issue, private. She could have talked to whomever she wanted, just not the press.

As for him taking advantage...I do not think she was a naive as people think she was at 16. Hell her mother pimped her out to this man....I don't think she was just this china doll who didn't know what was going on.

As to the china, I also think it was a reminder, and maybe a slap to him, of who she was, but I do think the issue with the loss of the child is more that she LOST PRINCE'S child. For some reason I feel that there is more importance to who's child it was (jmho).

I actually have more sympathy for Prince and less for Mayte after this show.

I wonder if they are doing a re-union.

I agree with both of you ladies posts

Ok my two cents: After watching last night's show, I am over all of this and won't be watching next season (well, probably not these women cry over every damn thing and wallow in this faux misery (I don't mean Mayte and her babies, but all this other silly stuff) Andrea acting like she had to live in R.Kelley's shadow and no one even knew who the fuck she was until this show! And she cries about EVERYTHING- I feel so bad for her assistant because you have to coddle her all the time, and the way they wrapped up that show as if everyone had come a long way please. Andrea was like, "I came out her and I made it! _ tears" blah blah- Please, she came out to California, opened up a class , a few people came and in the end they had a dance recital. 6 years old do it ever day. I just didn't see the struggle they were so much trying to make us feel. Please. She has R.Kelley's money, her kids are good, she's good, she has an assitant to help her with every little thing she needs, she has these hens to wallow in their faux sadness with, I am so over this bullshizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

Oh and p.s. , if she had said "baby hair" in that horrible voice (which is no longer cute btw, but just annoying at this point) I was seriously going to shoot my t.v..

Wow....

Some of these comments are just plain apathetic. None of us know all the details surrounding the whole Prince/Mayte union. But, we've all experienced some form of loss. We all know that some days are better than others and some will leave you depleted. We all know that we all are different; therefore, no two people are going to "go through" any life situation the same way. Even if the loss is a shared experience, our level/duration of grief is individually-based.

mimi02 said:

Wow....

Some of these comments are just plain apathetic. None of us know all the details surrounding the whole Prince/Mayte union. But, we've all experienced some form of loss. We all know that some days are better than others and some will leave you depleted. We all know that we all are different; therefore, no two people are going to "go through" any life situation the same way. Even if the loss is a shared experience, our level/duration of grief is individually-based.

I think pretty much everyone on here has sympathy for Prince and Mayte's loss of their son, so that I don't even think that is an issue.

We are just calling bullshit on the rest, some people can buy into her "oh woe is me" bs, while others are not, plain and simple.

BklynDiamond said:

starafree said:

Please people on here act as if prince really could have stop her from talking about her baby if she wanted to.She made the choice to appear on the today show& and oprah.She made the choice to be on a show called hollywood exe.Like I've said I understand the personal pain of child lost.I'm just tired of her playing the victim.Acting as if she had no choices.If she can't talk about her life with prince because of a gag order.She made the choice to sign it.She's the one keeping herself tied to him.Personally I think all of this I can't move on stick is for the show.She moved on when she was in the limo with tommy on his realty show talking about she wanted sex.She moved on when she was with wade robson.I have nothing against mayte I just don't by prince was the worst thing that could have happened to her.plus she's this victim.I think he probly wasn't as nice to her as he could have been.But she stayed until he left her.

[Edited 8/29/12 23:04pm]

I don't understand how Prince kept her from talking about it. The only way for her to grieve is in a public forum for everyone to see? Everyone knew they had a baby and that baby died. It was not a secret.

She had friends and family and she could have gone to therapy easily to move past her loss. The only thing he did was keep her from taking a private moment and making it public.....or do people forget HE LOST A CHILD AS WELL.

I think that is the thing that makes me angry.....women aren't the only ones who feel the loss of a child. Men go through the whole experience with their significant others, they feel the baby kick, dream of meeting their child.....the only thing they do not do is carry and give birth. They experience the loss of the child just as much as the women do, but for some reason they are always discounted and pushed aside.

This was/is a very private man who went through a very public loss. He wanted (as he does with everything) to keep his private issue, private. She could have talked to whomever she wanted, just not the press.

As for him taking advantage...I do not think she was a naive as people think she was at 16. Hell her mother pimped her out to this man....I don't think she was just this china doll who didn't know what was going on.

As to the china, I also think it was a reminder, and maybe a slap to him, of who she was, but I do think the issue with the loss of the child is more that she LOST PRINCE'S child. For some reason I feel that there is more importance to who's child it was (jmho).

I actually have more sympathy for Prince and less for Mayte after this show.

I wonder if they are doing a re-union.

I don't agree on them having another show. This show if you have

to look back from the beginning to the end you can see that this show was

all over the place and didn't make any sense.

RosesRred said:

BklynDiamond said:

I don't understand how Prince kept her from talking about it. The only way for her to grieve is in a public forum for everyone to see? Everyone knew they had a baby and that baby died. It was not a secret.

She had friends and family and she could have gone to therapy easily to move past her loss. The only thing he did was keep her from taking a private moment and making it public.....or do people forget HE LOST A CHILD AS WELL.

I think that is the thing that makes me angry.....women aren't the only ones who feel the loss of a child. Men go through the whole experience with their significant others, they feel the baby kick, dream of meeting their child.....the only thing they do not do is carry and give birth. They experience the loss of the child just as much as the women do, but for some reason they are always discounted and pushed aside.

This was/is a very private man who went through a very public loss. He wanted (as he does with everything) to keep his private issue, private. She could have talked to whomever she wanted, just not the press.

As for him taking advantage...I do not think she was a naive as people think she was at 16. Hell her mother pimped her out to this man....I don't think she was just this china doll who didn't know what was going on.

As to the china, I also think it was a reminder, and maybe a slap to him, of who she was, but I do think the issue with the loss of the child is more that she LOST PRINCE'S child. For some reason I feel that there is more importance to who's child it was (jmho).

I actually have more sympathy for Prince and less for Mayte after this show.

I wonder if they are doing a re-union.

I don't agree on them having another show. This show if you have

to look back from the beginning to the end you can see that this show was

all over the place and didn't make any sense.

Considering that some of these women are either remarried or engaged, there really wasn't a point in having a "Hollywood Exes". But, I admit I did tune in based on the Andrea Kelly story.

I don't agree on them having another show. This show if you have

to look back from the beginning to the end you can see that this show was

all over the place and didn't make any sense.

Mayte's theme..crying about the loss of a baby, wanting and having a baby

and her crying like a baby.

The conclusion it ended with her

getting a role in a movie and her knowing that she was able to say and show

things to Prince that she couldn't say to him in the past ,it was very subtle, I picked up on them, but then

she ended up boxing up the dishes. wow, she boxed up dishes, that

doesn't mean a thing. .What and where she put those boxes after

the cameras are off and the show has ended will prove if she's

really over her failed relationship with Prince.

Andrea's theme : Her dance class and getting more people to join her class.

She was trying to get into a relationship with a man that was also staged for this show.

You can tell it was all for the cameras.

It ended with her putting a tattoo of 'jr' under Robert that was on her back, now

making it Robert Jr.--(now that's going to just remind her

of the child/ren that they have together)--yes putting that tattoo 'jr' fixes everything :rolleyes:

She ended up breaking her foot and having a charity fund raiser.

Jessica : started off with her ex trying to move back in with her and their daughter

basically because he is broke and can't afford to live anywhere else. Jessica

seems like she doesn't understand his real motives on coming back into their lives.

She was crying about the whole situation and how she hates him hurting their daughter.

She was so confused about him moving in with them.." She doesn't know what to do..

Jessica's story ended....

with her ex trying to move back in with her and their daughter

basically because he is broke and can't afford to live anywhere else. Jessica

seems like she doesn't understand his real motives on coming back into their lives.

She was crying about the whole situation and how she hates him hurting their daughter.

She's so confused about him moving in with them.." She doesn't know what to do..

Nicole : started off with her wanting to expand her jewerly and clothing line.

-- It ended with her looking at wedding rings with Sheree wondering

if Michael was going to like her ring and buy it

Sheree : started off wanting her husband to move back where she was living and her

complaining about being so tired about driving back and forth to see him.

Sheree's husband wants her to move back where he's living. (I forgot their locations)

Sheree also wanting her whoop ash cream to be on shelves.

It ended with her having to take her cream back to

the drawing board because of the name 'Whoop Ash' sucks.

She was being everyone's therapist and still not wanting

to move back with her husband...

If this show has a second season, I hope the next cast or if

some of them return they

add some more adventure/action for them-stick with what they really

want to work on or achieve. Meeting at restaurants and looking at clothes and

jewerly isn't meaty/juicy/interesting enough to keep people

waiting to see the next episode. I think a lot of us watching

this season, at the beginning, was for Mayte, but then the

rest of the ladies slowly grew on us. Their personalities

blended well together,it did feel like a sisterhood at the end. I hope they keep in touch.

I wish the ladies the best on wherever their paths may take them, but

JESSICA, YOU BETTER NOT LET THAT BUM MOVE BACK INTO

YOUR HOME...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST my

[Edited 8/30/12 7:34am]

RosesRred said:

I don't agree on them having another show. This show if you have

to look back from the beginning to the end you can see that this show was

all over the place and didn't make any sense.

Mayte's theme..crying about the loss of a baby, wanting and having a baby

and her crying like a baby.

The conclusion it ended with her

getting a role in a movie and her knowing that she was able to say and show

things to Prince that she couldn't say to him in the past ,it was very subtle, I picked up on them, but then

she ended up boxing up the dishes. wow, she boxed up dishes, that

doesn't mean a thing. .What and where she put those boxes after

the cameras are off and the show has ended will prove if she's

really over her failed relationship with Prince.

Yea, where is she going to put those boxes??? hee hee

Eddid Murphy, Will Smith, Jose Casenco, and Prince left these women!

PurpleRayven said:

mimi02 said:

Wow....

Some of these comments are just plain apathetic. None of us know all the details surrounding the whole Prince/Mayte union. But, we've all experienced some form of loss. We all know that some days are better than others and some will leave you depleted. We all know that we all are different; therefore, no two people are going to "go through" any life situation the same way. Even if the loss is a shared experience, our level/duration of grief is individually-based.

I think pretty much everyone on here has sympathy for Prince and Mayte's loss of their son, so that I don't even think that is an issue.

We are just calling bullshit on the rest, some people can buy into her "oh woe is me" bs, while others are not, plain and simple.

I don't know that people on here really understand Mimi02's point though. What I typically see here is when Mayte's loss is discussed, someone is jumping up and saying that they suffered a miscarriage as well, and they are not doing some action (fill in the blank) like Mayte. I'm sincerely sorry for the losses of all those who have suffered such an incredible, incomprehensible loss. However no two people deal with loss the same way, nor do they deal with loss under the same circumstances.

I recognize whole-heartedly that Prince suffered these losses as well. I think that was likely the reason he ended up being so cold towards Mayte in the end...he just couldn't deal with the loss and she was a constant reminder. Such a loss has been known to deteriorate a marriage. My only point in my earlier post was that I can understand why she still feels regretful about her marriage to Prince after being with him since she was a child (yes, 16 is still a child--and he was in his early 30s which has a whole other set of issues), losing two babies, being tossed to the wind by her husband, and having her entire world crumble. Obviously she had gotten accustomed to a certain lifestyle and it was all gone instantly. That's tough for anyone to deal with all at once, so I choose not to judge her.

Don't get me wrong. I do think all reality tv shows are scripted to some extent. I'm just saying that Mayte shedding a few tears over the memory of her life with Prince is not all that far-fetched given the circumstances.

starafree said:

PurpleChi said:

Ok, the notion that Prince somehow validates Mayte is just wrong. Also, I don't think Mayte's tears were due to her being so in love. I think her tears were what comes when you force yourself to confront a long-standing issue in your life and move past it. Now, I will say that I still think the dishes were in her china cabinet for the benefit of the show. But if by chance she really has been keeping those dishes out for the past 12 years, I can understand the tears.

I think the show showed me way more about Prince then I would have cared to know. I believe that we all evolve (hopefully for the better) over time. I pray that this is the case for the present-day Prince. But what I saw from Mayte through this show is that Prince really did a number on her back in the 90s. And to top it all off she lost two children. There is a sadness behind her eyes that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

First of all I never said prince validated her.But lets be honest fans on here talk asif she wouldn't be where she is without him.Don't try to tell me about pain of losing children I lost twins at 7 day old and can't have anymore.Mayte put herself on this show.So I'm allowed to express my feelings.Her fans act as if it's a proven fact prince was so horrible to her.If he was why did she stay another 2 yrs after the divorce.Don't get me wrong I understand her pain about losing her children.Ijust don't buy she's this poor little victim.She's on twitter and facebook friending almost every person prince has everknown.If she wants to be free of him stop talking about him Just move on.

Let me first say that I am so very sorry for your loss. And I don't think I attempted to tell you about the pain of losing a child...I don't know it. I was merely pointing out the pain I observed in Mayte's eyes. Also, let me be clear that I am NOT a Mayte fan. I am a PRINCE fan. I do however, understand that when people are hurt their actions/reactions are not always logical. It is easy to say that if he was doing her wrong, why did she stay for another 2 years. Why do so many battered women stay with their men? I'm not in any way suggesting that Prince hit Mayte. I am only making the point that women stay with men who are less than kind to them all the time. Though that is not what I would do, I can't project my standards onto another person. Everyone is not strong enough to "just move on".

However, I totally agree with your point about Mayte befriending Prince fans on Facebook and Twitter. But unfortunately, social media is not that easy to control, especially if you are trying to build a fan base.

PurpleChi said:

starafree said:

First of all I never said prince validated her.But lets be honest fans on here talk asif she wouldn't be where she is without him.Don't try to tell me about pain of losing children I lost twins at 7 day old and can't have anymore.Mayte put herself on this show.So I'm allowed to express my feelings.Her fans act as if it's a proven fact prince was so horrible to her.If he was why did she stay another 2 yrs after the divorce.Don't get me wrong I understand her pain about losing her children.Ijust don't buy she's this poor little victim.She's on twitter and facebook friending almost every person prince has everknown.If she wants to be free of him stop talking about him Just move on.

Let me first say that I am so very sorry for your loss. And I don't think I attempted to tell you about the pain of losing a child...I don't know it. I was merely pointing out the pain I observed in Mayte's eyes. Also, let me be clear that I am NOT a Mayte fan. I am a PRINCE fan. I do however, understand that when people are hurt their actions/reactions are not always logical. It is easy to say that if he was doing her wrong, why did she stay for another 2 years. Why do so many battered women stay with their men? I'm not in any way suggesting that Prince hit Mayte. I am only making the point that women stay with men who are less than kind to them all the time. Though that is not what I would do, I can't project my standards onto another person. Everyone is not strong enough to "just move on".

However, I totally agree with your point about Mayte befriending Prince fans on Facebook and Twitter. But unfortunately, social media is not that easy to control, especially if you are trying to build a fan base.

I don't think you were trying to tell me how to feel.My point is that she's had other relatioships.When she was with Tommy on his show she wasn't acting like she could leave without prince.Hell she was planning to marry him .Until he pulled the plug on the engagement.She's on twitter befriending old girlfriends and his ex wife and her new husband.I'm just saying I think this Ican't move on was just an act that backfired.Personally I think the whole show backfired for most of the women.

starafree said:

PurpleChi said:

Let me first say that I am so very sorry for your loss. And I don't think I attempted to tell you about the pain of losing a child...I don't know it. I was merely pointing out the pain I observed in Mayte's eyes. Also, let me be clear that I am NOT a Mayte fan. I am a PRINCE fan. I do however, understand that when people are hurt their actions/reactions are not always logical. It is easy to say that if he was doing her wrong, why did she stay for another 2 years. Why do so many battered women stay with their men? I'm not in any way suggesting that Prince hit Mayte. I am only making the point that women stay with men who are less than kind to them all the time. Though that is not what I would do, I can't project my standards onto another person. Everyone is not strong enough to "just move on".

However, I totally agree with your point about Mayte befriending Prince fans on Facebook and Twitter. But unfortunately, social media is not that easy to control, especially if you are trying to build a fan base.

PurpleChi said:

PurpleRayven said:

I think pretty much everyone on here has sympathy for Prince and Mayte's loss of their son, so that I don't even think that is an issue.

We are just calling bullshit on the rest, some people can buy into her "oh woe is me" bs, while others are not, plain and simple.

I don't know that people on here really understand Mimi02's point though. What I typically see here is when Mayte's loss is discussed, someone is jumping up and saying that they suffered a miscarriage as well, and they are not doing some action (fill in the blank) like Mayte. I'm sincerely sorry for the losses of all those who have suffered such an incredible, incomprehensible loss. However no two people deal with loss the same way, nor do they deal with loss under the same circumstances.

I recognize whole-heartedly that Prince suffered these losses as well. I think that was likely the reason he ended up being so cold towards Mayte in the end...he just couldn't deal with the loss and she was a constant reminder. Such a loss has been known to deteriorate a marriage. My only point in my earlier post was that I can understand why she still feels regretful about her marriage to Prince after being with him since she was a child (yes, 16 is still a child--and he was in his early 30s which has a whole other set of issues), losing two babies, being tossed to the wind by her husband, and having her entire world crumble. Obviously she had gotten accustomed to a certain lifestyle and it was all gone instantly. That's tough for anyone to deal with all at once, so I choose not to judge her.

Don't get me wrong. I do think all reality tv shows are scripted to some extent. I'm just saying that Mayte shedding a few tears over the memory of her life with Prince is not all that far-fetched given the circumstances.

I too agree that everyone greives differently, that's why I never jumped on the band wagon to bash Prince about wanting out of the marriage. Not that we really know the true reasons for the divorce. But he doesn't strike me as the type to want to wallow (for lack of a better word) in sadness day in and day out, where she strikes me as the type that does. So being with someone that wants to live in sadness everyday can break a person, so to keep from breaking, you have to let that other person go.

Just because they met when she was 16, does that mean that this gives her free pass in life for making the decisions that she made. At what point does she take some responsibility for the choices that she made from ages 18-26.

At the time that they got married, she knew what type of man he was (not saying that gives him a free pass either), it's just that whole innocent/naive/victim thing is getting old, imo.

lauralevesque said:

Ok my two cents: After watching last night's show, I am over all of this and won't be watching next season (well, probably not these women cry over every damn thing and wallow in this faux misery (I don't mean Mayte and her babies, but all this other silly stuff) Andrea acting like she had to live in R.Kelley's shadow and no one even knew who the fuck she was until this show! And she cries about EVERYTHING- I feel so bad for her assistant because you have to coddle her all the time, and the way they wrapped up that show as if everyone had come a long way please. Andrea was like, "I came out her and I made it! _ tears" blah blah- Please, she came out to California, opened up a class , a few people came and in the end they had a dance recital. 6 years old do it ever day. I just didn't see the struggle they were so much trying to make us feel. Please. She has R.Kelley's money, her kids are good, she's good, she has an assitant to help her with every little thing she needs, she has these hens to wallow in their faux sadness with, I am so over this bullshizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

Oh and p.s. , if she had said "baby hair" in that horrible voice (which is no longer cute btw, but just annoying at this point) I was seriously going to shoot my t.v..

REAL TALK

I love it when chicks like you make sense instead of that self pitying thingm everybody must feel sorry for me cause I am fem. Cry, boo boo.....

Open up your eyes, and get real. God damn! And Mayte by this point is talking nonsense! She's nothign but a farce.

starafree said:

I don't think you were trying to tell me how to feel.My point is that she's had other relatioships.When she was with Tommy on his show she wasn't acting like she could leave without prince.Hell she was planning to marry him .Until he pulled the plug on the engagement.She's on twitter befriending old girlfriends and his ex wife and her new husband.I'm just saying I think this Ican't move on was just an act that backfired.Personally I think the whole show backfired for most of the women.

starafree said:

It was just a show displaying their acting skills. I never believed Mayte wasn't over Princey. This is pure nonsense. She's so over Prince. He doesn't give a damn about her, that alone is the reason why...

Nicole Murphy Says Hollywood

Exes is 'Therapy', Has 'Great

Relationship' With Eddie

The finale of VH1's Hollywood Exes aired on Wednesday night, but already Nicole Murphy is missing life in front of the camera and is eager to get back for a second season.

Nicole dished on the first season of the hit show, her relationship with her famous ex-husband, and how she and the other exes get on, in an exclusive interview with RadarOnline.com.

"I would absolutely do the show again if we get picked up," Eddie Murphy's ex-wife told Radar.

"If not, I would like to do my own show. I have no regrets at all, I really enjoyed it, it was a lot of fun for me," she explained.

Having never been on a reality show before, Nicole admitted that she didn’t know what to expect when the season first kicked off earlier this summer, but quickly learned that just being herself was the best tactic.

"There is no putting on airs and trying to be something I’m not or being someone I’m not," she told Radar. "You get so comfortable after a while that you forget the cameras are there. I got to hang out with my girlfriends so I was pleased by how it turned out.

Nicole was joined onscreen by former baseball star Jose Canseco's ex, Jessica Canseco, Andrea Kelly, ex-wife to rapper R. Kelly, Sheree Fletcher, ex-wife of Will Smith, and Mayte Garcia, ex-wife of Prince.

Unlike the volatile Real Housewives franchises all the women managed to stay friends by the end of the season, despite a recent explosive interaction.

"The most surprising thing was when Mayte threw that damn drink! I didn’t expect that! You can see from my face that I was very shocked, then I just chuckled," said the laid-back reality star.

"I was very surprised because I handle my anger different to other people. They may throw stuff but I stay calm – if I get angry I just want to talk about it and get it over with," she explained.

"Mayte and 'Drea all get into it a bit. I think Mayte wins the prize for drama, some people handle their anger differently. Mayte lets hers build up and then she explodes."

That easy-going nature helped Nicole deal cope with her divorce from her Beverly Hills Cop star husband in 2006, and the former couple remain very amicable.

"Eddie and I are friends; he’s my babies’ daddy so we speak to each other and have a great relationship and I think that’s important when you have children involved," Nicole told Radar. "We can be in the same room and hang out, it’s all good!"

"Eddie and I are friends; he’s my babies’ daddy so we speak to each other and have a great relationship and I think that’s important when you have children involved, Nicole told Radar. "We can be in the same room and hang out, it’s all good!"

"I don’t have an issue with my ex, I think the other girls are good too, but 'Drea is still going through a little something with hers."

Just watching the women handle that aftermath of their incredibly infamous breakups helps other women deal with their own relationship strives, says Murphy.

"The show is definitely therapy, I am sure that other women who are watching the show have a situation they can relate to. I’ve have women tell me on Twitter that I’ve inspired them not to jump up and get angry."

Now that season one of Hollywood Exes has wrapped, Murphy is focusing her energy on her new fashion line, Open Hours and returning to the catwalk to walk in New York Fashion Week.

http://www.radaronline.co...ond-season

OzlemUcucu said:

lauralevesque said:

Ok my two cents: After watching last night's show, I am over all of this and won't be watching next season (well, probably not these women cry over every damn thing and wallow in this faux misery (I don't mean Mayte and her babies, but all this other silly stuff) Andrea acting like she had to live in R.Kelley's shadow and no one even knew who the fuck she was until this show! And she cries about EVERYTHING- I feel so bad for her assistant because you have to coddle her all the time, and the way they wrapped up that show as if everyone had come a long way please. Andrea was like, "I came out her and I made it! _ tears" blah blah- Please, she came out to California, opened up a class , a few people came and in the end they had a dance recital. 6 years old do it ever day. I just didn't see the struggle they were so much trying to make us feel. Please. She has R.Kelley's money, her kids are good, she's good, she has an assitant to help her with every little thing she needs, she has these hens to wallow in their faux sadness with, I am so over this bullshizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

Oh and p.s. , if she had said "baby hair" in that horrible voice (which is no longer cute btw, but just annoying at this point) I was seriously going to shoot my t.v..

REAL TALK

I love it when chicks like you make sense instead of that self pitying thingm everybody must feel sorry for me cause I am fem. Cry, boo boo.....

Open up your eyes, and get real. God damn! And Mayte by this point is talking nonsense! She's nothign but a farce.

PurpleRayven said:

PurpleChi said:

PurpleRayven said:

I think pretty much everyone on here has sympathy for Prince and Mayte's loss of their son, so that I don't even think that is an issue.

We are just calling bullshit on the rest, some people can buy into her "oh woe is me" bs, while others are not, plain and simple.

I don't know that people on here really understand Mimi02's point though. What I typically see here is when Mayte's loss is discussed, someone is jumping up and saying that they suffered a miscarriage as well, and they are not doing some action (fill in the blank) like Mayte. I'm sincerely sorry for the losses of all those who have suffered such an incredible, incomprehensible loss. However no two people deal with loss the same way, nor do they deal with loss under the same circumstances.

I recognize whole-heartedly that Prince suffered these losses as well. I think that was likely the reason he ended up being so cold towards Mayte in the end...he just couldn't deal with the loss and she was a constant reminder. Such a loss has been known to deteriorate a marriage. My only point in my earlier post was that I can understand why she still feels regretful about her marriage to Prince after being with him since she was a child (yes, 16 is still a child--and he was in his early 30s which has a whole other set of issues), losing two babies, being tossed to the wind by her husband, and having her entire world crumble. Obviously she had gotten accustomed to a certain lifestyle and it was all gone instantly. That's tough for anyone to deal with all at once, so I choose not to judge her.

Don't get me wrong. I do think all reality tv shows are scripted to some extent. I'm just saying that Mayte shedding a few tears over the memory of her life with Prince is not all that far-fetched given the circumstances.

I fully understand what Chi was saying, my comments are not to Mayte shedding a few tears over her loss. She will feel that loss everyday.

I am calling BS on the "He (Prince) didn't let her talk about it", "He kept her from grieving", and my personal favorite from her...."No one ever called me a mother before." I find that damn near impossible to believe.

Here is my reason why I don't believe her story......for 12 some odd years she has been in this much grief and not one family member, friend, doctor, preacher, minster, hell person on the street told her to get some counseling to help move past this? Not one??????? If that is the case she really needs to surround her self with people who can be better attuned to her needs.

Two of her past public relationships, both gentlemen stated that she lives in her past and won't let it go.

It is one thing to grieve a loss from time to time (anniversaries, birthdays, etc) it is another to allow it to so consume your life that all that defines you is that loss. To quote Jessica "she's crazy".

This show actually made me feel more for Prince.....how much did he have to shoulder during his own grief, trying to keep his wife together when it seems she just didn't want to let it go. Hell I can't blame the man for wanting to find someone who he could smile with again.

12 years later and Mayte is still crying.

artist76 said:

It seems most people on here who have watched the series and maybe saw some of the promo interviews as well, are of similar mind - this show did NOT put Mayte in the best light, and if anything, vindicates Prince from some of the "cloud" around him concerning his Mayte years. As someone else posted, this show didn't really do much for most of the cast in general. I was somewhere between neutral to sympathetic to Mayte before this show, but I never really actively followed her. Didn't know about the show until nursev's first thread. Because of this show, I've done some "research" (old interviews, articles and org threads too) on Mayte and on Prince during the Mayte years. Some of the interviews and articles I had seen before, like on Larry King and the Oprah one, and I had a slightly negative vibe about Prince then - can't put my finger on why; I guess I was subconsciously buying into the "poor Mayte" victim thing, because as a woman I sympathized with her. But looking at a lot of this stuff recently, I can imagine a completely different scenario. I can imagine her being passive-aggressive, not communicating her feelings, and then exploding; I imagine her being spoiled and expecting him to know what she wants and how she feels through ESP or something; I can imagine her being a nag and not letting things go; I can imagine she had a hard time not able to apologize and compromise; I imagine her mother being attached to her hip might have been hard to take for any spouse. Not saying that Prince doesn't have any of these same tendencies or other bad traits himself - but it's wise that he hasn't put himself on display for people to see conclusively! I also re-evaluated that Oprah thing - I used to think, how terrible he made Mayte go on those interviews during that hard time! But now I think, how trapped he must have felt - probably not wanting to do these interviews, but needing to do promo for Emancipation, after all that hype he did for the album and for his impending fatherhood, and how he must have regretted putting all that out there (the pregnancy, his wife). How, when you are not yet ready to declare to yourself that your baby is dead, can you possibly declare it to the world? No wonder he "lied" about it. And it doesn't seem like such a demonic thing that he "did to" Mayte - it seems to me now that it was a bad situation for everyone. I have more sympathy for him now as also being a parent who lost a child. I knew that before, but somehow I sympathized more for Mayte as the mother. Now, watching her go on about it on the show, made me more conscious of the fact that Prince suffered the same loss too - but he's not moaning and throwing glasses because of it for the sake of drama on reality TV, and he seems to have come to terms with it in a mature way in comparison. I also came across little things that I had glossed over before - like a friend of Carmen Elektra's on a 10 year old thread posted that she saw Mayte during the Glam Slam days and she seemed like a "stick up her ass attitude having girl." That description doesn't seem far-fetched after seeing her performance and her persona on Hollywood Exes. There are lots of things that I didn't pay attention to or that I saw only one way because somehow I got the impression that Mayte was "put upon" and she was "done wrong" - not based on any facts, but just from the general consensus out there. In sum, this show revealed her to be, not a goddess on a pedestal, but just a good-looking woman, not witty or funny or "cute," and certainly not without her imperfections. Perhaps (hopefully, for his sake) Prince has now learned not to put women (girls :-/) on pedestals, and has now learned that love is not about being an Egyptian prince & princess together in a past life, pink mansions, pink cashmere, having a virgin, "soul mates" and all that romance gobbledygook.

So many good points.

At the end of the day, in regards to their life together, this was a situation where there was no winners. Wish them both the best and hope that lessons were learned

PurpleChi said:

PurpleRayven said:

she put us in a box. I hope she doesn't forget about us.

prodigalfan said:

PurpleChi said:

I don't know that people on here really understand Mimi02's point though. What I typically see here is when Mayte's loss is discussed, someone is jumping up and saying that they suffered a miscarriage as well, and they are not doing some action (fill in the blank) like Mayte. I'm sincerely sorry for the losses of all those who have suffered such an incredible, incomprehensible loss. However no two people deal with loss the same way, nor do they deal with loss under the same circumstances.

I recognize whole-heartedly that Prince suffered these losses as well. I think that was likely the reason he ended up being so cold towards Mayte in the end...he just couldn't deal with the loss and she was a constant reminder. Such a loss has been known to deteriorate a marriage. My only point in my earlier post was that I can understand why she still feels regretful about her marriage to Prince after being with him since she was a child (yes, 16 is still a child--and he was in his early 30s which has a whole other set of issues), losing two babies, being tossed to the wind by her husband, and having her entire world crumble. Obviously she had gotten accustomed to a certain lifestyle and it was all gone instantly. That's tough for anyone to deal with all at once, so I choose not to judge her.

Don't get me wrong. I do think all reality tv shows are scripted to some extent. I'm just saying that Mayte shedding a few tears over the memory of her life with Prince is not all that far-fetched given the circumstances.

I do agree with this post. Yes, I also choose not to judge Mayte except in the circumstance when SHE is judging someone else (Jessica). I also think it was a bad idea for a REALITY show and I told her friend melted man that when the show was announced. But your description of her troubles during Prince era is the same way I see it. Oh and you forgot to add that Prince didn't leave her to be own his own. He went into the arms of another woman and flaunted the relationship ( per numerous reports from attendees to the celebration parties that year). That was PUBLIC humiliation. Once again she couldn't say anything. Just take it in the chin without even a whimper.. Can you imagine how hard it had to be for Mayte to hold it together for that Today interview when Bryant asked her questions about her baby. He directed a question to Mayte and for a split second you saw her face crumble and she swallowed hard. Prince quickly stepped in and answered the question instead. So I cut her slack. But I can see How prince responded the way he did. He seems to avoid emotional drama. So Mayte was probably a source of stress to him. And them mani was like a vacation. All giggly and goo goo eyes and conversations about how gripe at he is etc. On one hand this n is bringing positivity and it is like a ray of sunshine. The other woman you are forced to talk about genetic testing and hormone blood levels and what ifs, and whys and woe is me and ALL THE CRYING.

Which woman would you choose to be with.

"I,______ take you,_____to be my wife, to have and to hold

from this day forward, for better, for worse,

for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health,

to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to

God's holy law, and this is my solemn vow."

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yes true, but then everyone who has taken those vows but then got divorced are a bit of a hypocrite and failure, not only Prince but all of the Hollywood Exes ladies and their exes, Manuela, Eric Benet, etc., etc., ... and statistically probable your own parents too.

RosesRred said:

prodigalfan said:

PurpleChi said:

Which woman would you choose to be with.

"I,______ take you,_____to be my wife, to have and to hold

from this day forward, for better, for worse,

for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health,

to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to

God's holy law, and this is my solemn vow."

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Marriage vows for many are not taken seriously.

They might as well stand up there and repeat

a nursery rhyme together.

You already know that many of the guest

that are attending have already discussed or placed bets

with friends and family on how long they are

going to be married before the wedding.

I am not picking on Prince on this matter, but when

the statement was made as

for understanding why he ran to Mani was

just shocking to me.

It's like telling someone if you

and your spouse cannot handle a crisis then you

better leave them, go run and find another man/woman

so you can start a fresh relationship.

You can't keep running from your problems.

You are supposed to be for

one another through the bad times too.

You are a product of your environment. If you were

brought up in a household and there was

NO communication and everyone shuts down

when there were problems that needed

to be addressed and resolved,

then most likely, when you are older, you are

going to continue that type of behavior.

If you do not take control, You will not

know how to cope or communicate

when you have to face a crisis,.

You will always run where there are problems

in your home,on your job, with

your friends and your spouse and so on.

We all know people that are like that,

yes, even You? I admit, I used to be, but now

I'm like Janet, I'm in CONTROL.

http://changingminds.org/...coping.htm

"If you don't have time to do it right, you must have

time to do it over."

artist76 said:

yes true, but then everyone who has taken those vows but then got divorced are a bit of a hypocrite and failure, not only Prince but all of the Hollywood Exes ladies and their exes, Manuela, Eric Benet, etc., etc., ... and statistically probable your own parents too.

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RosesRred said: