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superspaceboy said: This is really sad and pathetic.
To claim that they didn't know this would happen is utter BS. Fact - They held onto original CC information even though many changed it Fact - Even we saw this coming...how could they not Fact - The website is DOWN DOWN DOWN. Someone somewhere did that. Fact - They have not responded to any member requesting that their membership NOT be renewed. Fact - There is NOWHERE on the site to cancel your membership. It is as if it was designed so you couldn't cancel. Fact - They have KNOWN that the fans have NOT been happy with the site and have even circumvented the site with content that eventually ended up on the site. They MUST be aware of the complaints and that many would NOT be signing up for year 2. And now they are going to send a notice to post here? LAME LAME LAME! A simple apology is not going to suffice. I doubt they will get anywhere with refunding peeps money...they couldn't even get the dang shirts out correctly. Again..the site is down, how can any of this be a mistake? all year people kept saying that we should wait before criticizing because afterall, Prince could put new material any day now. A year is up and the site sucked. Fams, please come out and admit you were wrong. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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1nonly said: irishwolfhound said: what a JOKE....U know prince got housequake shut down N here U r acting as a go between...if U had any morals U would tell P 2 go F off after closing housequake...dont b a sucker 4 life...B a true funk soldier... WOLFY  you do realize that gavin voluntarily shut down housequake to avoid dealing with the demands that prince and his representatives were asking. In his words, i believe, "It stopped being fun anymore." I can't imagine being the one NOW that has to forward correspondence from Prince's camp to the people who've paid to join Prince's website, is much fun at all! Gav has a very good heart!  I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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yogamoma88 said: I don't know if I am remembering wrong, but when I signed up, it sounded like I'd be locked into a membership for 5 years and that my credit card would automatically be charged each year. I agreed to be locked in for 5 years - it seemed like a long time, but I wanted to be in. So I'm finding it strange that people are getting so upset when the very thing that they agreed to is happening on schedule. Feel free to correct me by posting the original terms, because I am getting old and might not remember things so well. If I change my CC information, it does not give them the right to use my previous CC information. That's what pisses me off more than anything. | |
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I joined last year on 29/3/09(I'm from England)and yes, I sent the required cancellation notice to the support(cough cough)email address. After seeing this thread today I phoned Visa(with whom I paid for the subscription with) to be told that I could do nothing to prevent the renewal being taken(its not due until 29 but still) as they were unable to stop a payment unless instructed to by the company seeking the money!! Calmly(well alright not very calm) I reiterated that I have already cancelled my renewal but that has not stoppped it being taken from many others accounts. Oh so helpful, Visa said the only thing I can do is dispute it if and when it happens and they will try to reclaim the fees. If that happens they'll take exchange fees and I'll lose more money. Fantastic way of doing business, surely a model of customer services. | |
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yogamoma88 said: I don't know if I am remembering wrong, but when I signed up, it sounded like I'd be locked into a membership for 5 years and that my credit card would automatically be charged each year. I agreed to be locked in for 5 years - it seemed like a long time, but I wanted to be in. So I'm finding it strange that people are getting so upset when the very thing that they agreed to is happening on schedule. Feel free to correct me by posting the original terms, because I am getting old and might not remember things so well.
Don't know what you are talking about. 5 years? regardless they could have mentioned a million years renewal, if you send a mail to cancel and change your CC details they are stealing your cash. They have no authorization to do so. Can't wait to read this letter from Prince. Will he mention the lack of customer support? The people who didn't get the t-shirts? The general lies about what Lotu$flower was supposed to be or just an excuse why he is steal money from his fans again? You can be sure of one thing it will end with a promise of "something exciting coming soon" TWAT, he seems to think his fanbase are all morons. "My God it's full of Stars"
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I was charged today. After requesting to cancel my account several months ago and changing my credit card info. I have contacted my bank to cancel the charge but we will see how that goes.
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Vendetta1 said: yogamoma88 said: I don't know if I am remembering wrong, but when I signed up, it sounded like I'd be locked into a membership for 5 years and that my credit card would automatically be charged each year. I agreed to be locked in for 5 years - it seemed like a long time, but I wanted to be in. So I'm finding it strange that people are getting so upset when the very thing that they agreed to is happening on schedule. Feel free to correct me by posting the original terms, because I am getting old and might not remember things so well. If I change my CC information, it does not give them the right to use my previous CC information. That's what pisses me off more than anything.Exactly. They give you the option to change something then ignore it. Either people are seriously lazy or intentionally thieving. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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yogamoma88 said: I don't know if I am remembering wrong, but when I signed up, it sounded like I'd be locked into a membership for 5 years and that my credit card would automatically be charged each year. I agreed to be locked in for 5 years - it seemed like a long time, but I wanted to be in. So I'm finding it strange that people are getting so upset when the very thing that they agreed to is happening on schedule. Feel free to correct me by posting the original terms, because I am getting old and might not remember things so well.
Here you go: 1.4 - LOTUSFLOW3ER.COM MEMBERSHIPS
Lotusflow3r memberships are valid for one calendar year from date of purchase, and are non-refundable. Membership includes access to restricted areas of Lotusflow3r, access to pre-sale concert tickets, and the ability to download music and videos from Lotusflow3r. Membership does not include the download rights to certain �Premium� material, which is available to purchase on a per-item basis. Automatic renewal is available for Lotusflow3r memberships. If automatic renewal is selected at purchase your credit card will be billed on an annual basis, unless you cancel automatic renewal prior to the renewal date by emailing sales@Lotusflow3r. Nothing there about 5 years. What IS there is how to cancel the auto-renew, which turned out to be a lie. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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moderatorthis is starting to remind me of the X-Files episode "ghost in the machine"
where the C.O.S. comes conscious and starts to go mental. they've pulled the plug on Lotusflow3r but the site refuses to die, instead it's billing people for another year. perhaps the system is now in prince's vault, erasing tape after tape  and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Hello...CJ...? We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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PurpleLove7 said: fantasticjoy said: Has anyone thought maybe Prince didn't deliberately take the money. Maybe its happening because whoever is in charge is not doing their job, or no longer has a job.
co-sign ... I wonder how much involvement P has/had in "any" of the sites. Does it matter? He should take responsibility for some of this. It's his site, his image, his fans. As an artist, you owe it to the fans to make sure they are not getting duped. The issues with his site issues are long standing. The fact that the site has no customer service would have been an issue I would have fixed a LONG time ago. It's not like Prince is busy with a tour and such that he's been SO busy he couldn't possibly notice. His duochery is nothing new and I am sure he could care less about this...just as long as it doesn't get him into legal trouble. Ask yourself this question...a year of silence and NOW...NOW were getting a statement. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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I emailed sales a week or so ago...if I get charged, shit's gonna hit the ceiling. | |
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Mars23 said: yogamoma88 said: I don't know if I am remembering wrong, but when I signed up, it sounded like I'd be locked into a membership for 5 years and that my credit card would automatically be charged each year. I agreed to be locked in for 5 years - it seemed like a long time, but I wanted to be in. So I'm finding it strange that people are getting so upset when the very thing that they agreed to is happening on schedule. Feel free to correct me by posting the original terms, because I am getting old and might not remember things so well.
Here you go: 1.4 - LOTUSFLOW3ER.COM MEMBERSHIPS
Lotusflow3r memberships are valid for one calendar year from date of purchase, and are non-refundable. Membership includes access to restricted areas of Lotusflow3r, access to pre-sale concert tickets, and the ability to download music and videos from Lotusflow3r. Membership does not include the download rights to certain �Premium� material, which is available to purchase on a per-item basis. Automatic renewal is available for Lotusflow3r memberships. If automatic renewal is selected at purchase your credit card will be billed on an annual basis, unless you cancel automatic renewal prior to the renewal date by emailing sales@Lotusflow3r. Nothing there about 5 years. What IS there is how to cancel the auto-renew, which turned out to be a lie. oops - I guess I chose to be locked in for 5 years then. I stand corrected. Rant away all  LOVE IS THE ONLY WAY | |
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may i suggest these guys to run the site next year and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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IstenSzek said:
may i suggest these guys to run the site next year I love the redhead  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Vendetta1 said: yogamoma88 said: I don't know if I am remembering wrong, but when I signed up, it sounded like I'd be locked into a membership for 5 years and that my credit card would automatically be charged each year. I agreed to be locked in for 5 years - it seemed like a long time, but I wanted to be in. So I'm finding it strange that people are getting so upset when the very thing that they agreed to is happening on schedule. Feel free to correct me by posting the original terms, because I am getting old and might not remember things so well. If I change my CC information, it does not give them the right to use my previous CC information. That's what pisses me off more than anything.I tried to tell y'all repeatedly, when your card was originally charged, that information went to the site's merchant account processor, where it would be stored until it was time for it to be charged again. Changing the info on the site meant nothing because the cards weren't being charged when you changed them so that information never went to the merchant account processor. 
Now, whoever is in charge of the site could and I'm sure did notice people changing their cc info. and should have advised the merchant account processor but didn't. Why they didn't...is the $77.00 question! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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IF it were me, and this is just me, I'm not saying in any way that this is even a possibility, I would say "sorry" with a 10 cut album of the most requested songs in the vault.
It costs nothing and the negative feelings would disappear immediately. Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, but it would work. I bet some of even the most jaded fans would gladly tell him to keep the $77 for that. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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I got charged too. PISSED. | |
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superspaceboy said: PurpleLove7 said: co-sign ... I wonder how much involvement P has/had in "any" of the sites. Does it matter? He should take responsibility for some of this. It's his site, his image, his fans. As an artist, you owe it to the fans to make sure they are not getting duped. The issues with his site issues are long standing. The fact that the site has no customer service would have been an issue I would have fixed a LONG time ago. It's not like Prince is busy with a tour and such that he's been SO busy he couldn't possibly notice. His duochery is nothing new and I am sure he could care less about this...just as long as it doesn't get him into legal trouble. Ask yourself this question...a year of silence and NOW...NOW were getting a statement. Now see, I am not making any personal attacks with members of the org or Prince like it seems 85% of the members do. Anywho, being a fan as long as I have been, I do not look at life or P thru rose colored glasses to use that term, loosely. We all know and understand that it "appears" that the site is not working so I/we cannot even check our payment or credit card info entered (as I said previously). I am feeling certain that this issue of the charges and such will be taken care of for all of us. If anything we can all go to our financial institutions and request so said charges be reversed. Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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Why don't you all leave him alone. $144 is not much to see some videos that were made in the 80s and download a song that is available all over the net to download for free. The fact that the site has faded to black is also no big deal (well there is still an orb there), it's isn't like he's suddenly just stepped away from a website before with no announcement and left the screen black. And as for t-shirts, they were only for founding members. If you haven't found the content then you ar not a founding member, just a member. Got my mojo working...it just don't work on you!
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Mars23 said: IF it were me, and this is just me, I'm not saying in any way that this is even a possibility, I would say "sorry" with a 10 cut album of the most requested songs in the vault.
It costs nothing and the negative feelings would disappear immediately. Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, but it would work. I bet some of even the most jaded fans would gladly tell him to keep the $77 for that. yeah, i like how you're thinking. heck, even the long rumoured "madrid 2 chicago" album or something else. it would just be nice to get some affirmation that they messed up and are willing to correct things, showing their intentions by offering something. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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superspaceboy said: This is really sad and pathetic.
Fact - They held onto original CC information even though many changed it This is the thing thats killing me! I changed my card info on the site MONTHS ago!!! So I'm utterly shocked to find this debit from my card. That is THEFT. I'm ready to call my lawyer. Change it one more time.. | |
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stichdoll said: And as for t-shirts, they were only for founding members. If you haven't found the content then you ar not a founding member, just a member.
uhm, no. if you'd bothered to read the original thread survey for members who had not received their shirts, you'd have seen that 90% of the people who have NOT received a tshirt are in fact people that signed up on the very first day the website went live. myself included. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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I just went to the site and nothing's going on there (less than usual  ).
Does anyone see anything there? | |
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Mars23 said: IF it were me, and this is just me, I'm not saying in any way that this is even a possibility, I would say "sorry" with a 10 cut album of the most requested songs in the vault.
It costs nothing and the negative feelings would disappear immediately. Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, but it would work. I bet some of even the most jaded fans would gladly tell him to keep the $77 for that. to spite him i'd upload it to a torrent or filesharing site, as i would with all his future releases. |
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Is this the worse thing he's done/been affiliated with? I mean this is just straight up BS. You could argue that the original fee was justified because there wasn't any promises and you did get 3 albums and a shirt (well, some people did), but getting charged again after emailing sales/support is just a no-no. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: 1nonly said: you do realize that gavin voluntarily shut down housequake to avoid dealing with the demands that prince and his representatives were asking. In his words, i believe, "It stopped being fun anymore." I can't imagine being the one NOW that has to forward correspondence from Prince's camp to the people who've paid to join Prince's website, is much fun at all! Gav has a very good heart! Yes, he really does. Well, hell...makes for an interesting Thursday, to say the least. Walking alone in the dark, I see nothing u see
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I don't appear to be have been re-charged - but I think the card I signed up with doesn't exist any more. Still, I feel bad for y'all.
I wouldn't have any problem re-signing up if there was some activity on the site. |
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IstenSzek said: Mars23 said: IF it were me, and this is just me, I'm not saying in any way that this is even a possibility, I would say "sorry" with a 10 cut album of the most requested songs in the vault.
It costs nothing and the negative feelings would disappear immediately. Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, but it would work. I bet some of even the most jaded fans would gladly tell him to keep the $77 for that. yeah, i like how you're thinking. heck, even the long rumoured "madrid 2 chicago" album or something else. it would just be nice to get some affirmation that they messed up and are willing to correct things, showing their intentions by offering something. There's a lot of unconditional love for Prince out there. Problem is, he knows that. IF any acknowledgment is made, it won't be that great. He can continue to shit on us from a great height and some small scrap will suffice. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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