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Printable rwn said: Rorywan said: 
People who charge for lifetime memberships then recharge the same people to join again are greedy. People who sell the same item to different people at 4 times the cost are greedy. Greedy and exploitive. I think maybe you have a purple tinted naive view of the world. 
[Edited 3/17/09 4:16am] You are the one who has a naive view of the world. You think that having a lifetime membership to one club gives you automatic free access to a new club starting years later. You think Prince controls everything. You think Prince controls the international price of the Lotusflow3r CD. He isn't. 
Where did I say "I think prince controls everything" You guys on here have gone crazy. Fam central. Please don't speak to me again, no point. [Edited 3/17/09 4:40am] "My God it's full of Stars"
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I have to say I am disappointed with the proposed initial content. If the OLD content is merely images from past albums, and possibly past concert footage (realistically more likely to be Coachella and 21 Nights rather than 1999 tour or Parade tour etc).
I will still join cos I can afford it, and the dangled carrot of material that will only be available within the first week or so (that right there is soooo going to piss people right off). I know if it's something even remotely cool or exclusive in terms of musical content I will regret not joining. However the potential (for Prince to really use this site as the main conduit for the distribution of his art, and hopefully that's what the last few years of web sheriffing have all been about), is there. He really has me by the short and curlies. I have a choice not to join but my very strong preference for his music means he can pretty much pull my strings any way he wants. Unfortunately he had me at hello. Just somewhere in the middle,
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leecaldon said: Spanky said: Dearest Prince,
I am not joining lotusflow3r until I know EXACTLY what I am getting. I got burned last time. $100 for "Last December", "Madrid 2 Chicago", and 2 other albums that never came. Although I agree with the idea that we will want to know what we're signing up for, your $100 in 2002 did get you 4 CDs, as promised, plus 2 download albums. (It's believed that Last December was a live album that became One Nite Alone... Live! and Xenophobia became Xpectation). The only album that didn't come was the best of album. Madrid 2 Chicago was never clearly announced as part of the 2002 NPGMC membership. | |
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KeithyT said: I have to say I am disappointed with the proposed initial content. If the OLD content is merely images from past albums, and possibly past concert footage (realistically more likely to be Coachella and 21 Nights rather than 1999 tour or Parade tour etc).
I will still join cos I can afford it, and the dangled carrot of material that will only be available within the first week or so (that right there is soooo going to piss people right off). I know if it's something even remotely cool or exclusive in terms of musical content I will regret not joining. However the potential (for Prince to really use this site as the main conduit for the distribution of his art, and hopefully that's what the last few years of web sheriffing have all been about), is there. He really has me by the short and curlies. I have a choice not to join but my very strong preference for his music means he can pretty much pull my strings any way he wants. Unfortunately he had me at hello. I agree, me too, not happy about it though!  "My God it's full of Stars"
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Swa said: Genesia said: I think my $77 is as good as spent, is what I think.
<--- will own a "founding member" tee  You will be standing behind me. I wonder if I can beat you to it, being in Australia and in the future and all 
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Rorywan, rather than being unhappy I'm philosophic about it. I've never taken anything Prince has done personally. He makes his business choices and I've always had the choice to go with it or opt out. Just somewhere in the middle,
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Rorywan said: rwn said: You are the one who has a naive view of the world. You think that having a lifetime membership to one club gives you automatic free access to a new club starting years later. You think Prince controls everything. You think Prince controls the international price of the Lotusflow3r CD. He isn't.
Where did I say "I think prince controls everything" You guys on here have gone crazy. Fam central. Please don't speak to me again, no point. [Edited 3/17/09 4:40am] You blamed Prince for the international cost of the Lotusflow3r CD without knowing he's the one to blame for it. That clearly shows your way of thinking. You may not be aware of it, but that's your problem. BTW: you decided to answer my posts. You're free to ignore me from now on, of course  | |
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KeithyT said: Rorywan, rather than being unhappy I'm philosophic about it. I've never taken anything Prince has done personally. He makes his business choices and I've always had the choice to go with it or opt out.
I don't really either, I think things come across more serious when written on here. I think he is actually quite funny, and he really takes the piss. All this is another part of it. I kind of expect him to exploit his fans. I'd say he is a nightmare to work with. But thats P. I had a few encounters with him at the O2. Great fun. As much as we give out, its all just fun. Some folk on here have gotten very 'Fammy' of late though, which I have to say really irritates me. This is a fun site, not a blind church of Prince! I know I will pay the 77$, I will import the horrendously expensive CD. etc etc. But I think I will still have a good moan about it! "My God it's full of Stars"
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rwn said: Rorywan said:
Where did I say "I think prince controls everything" You guys on here have gone crazy. Fam central. Please don't speak to me again, no point. [Edited 3/17/09 4:40am] You blamed Prince for the international cost of the Lotusflow3r CD without knowing he's the one to blame for it. That clearly shows your way of thinking. You may not be aware of it, but that's your problem. BTW: you decided to answer my posts. You're free to ignore me from now on, of course    "My God it's full of Stars"
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The pertinent stuff IMHO is...
PrincePressRelease said: ON LAUNCH (this stuff HAS to happen or people will go apeshit, even over the T-Shirt )
As soon as the site goes live, fans will have access to new content including digital downloads of his new studio albums LOtUSFLOW3r, MPLSoUND and Elixer, a collaboration with his new protégé Bria Valente; concert tickets; sneak peaks at upcoming events; live concert footage; exclusive imagery from past albums and other exclusive photos for an annual membership fee of $77. Exclusive content that will only be available in the first week of the site launch and may never become available again (a contradiction in one sentence there!). Fans who join the site early will also receive a boutique-quality “Founding Member” t-shirt that displays the central image from the galaxy. "PLANNED" AFTER LAUNCH (none of which HAS to necessarily happen, and you have no right to go apeshit )
In addition, the site is slated to release a new music video from each of the three albums on the launch date including “Crimson and Clover” from LOtUSFLOW3r, “Chocolate Box” from MPLSoUND and “Everytime” from Elixer. Prince also plans to give his fans access to tickets to live shows, concert footage from past performances, exclusive imagery from his past albums and other exclusive photos, exclusive information about any private or secret shows. Over time, Prince will continue to give fans more access to high-end never released photos and video content and much more. Interesting choice of words throughout. 
[Edited 3/17/09 4:58am] [Edited 3/17/09 5:02am] Just somewhere in the middle,
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: BigDaddyHQ said: I said it in another thread... $77 is less than $6.50 a month...
I don't think its too bad of an investment in order to belong to my favorite musicians website and actually encourage him to do 'more' for his fans by properly and legally supporting his efforts... instead of non stop bitching and whining... and acting like an un-appreciative self serving azz as some of hisd do called fans do. (I will never understand why do they still bother.. why are they here) [Edited 3/16/09 19:51pm] Because if your favorite musician doesn't act like an un-appreciative self serving azz, then I'm just sure he'll have a forum section on HIS site for y'all to post in giving us back our beloved Org that we've been on for years, to post on freely and say what we want, without it hurting your delicate sensibilities. [Edited 3/16/09 20:25pm] Hatrina... I have a small beef with your post. This is not "your" org, or anyone else's exclusively. (Except for the creator, or course) This is a site here multitudes of people have multitudes of opinions. I personally cannot stand the whining that some bring with them....Ya know those ones that continuously find fault with everything Prince does or does not do as they see fit...But still, no matter how bad I hate it, it is not my call because it is their org as well. Many of us have been here for years. (I was here long ago, then stopped coming for awhile...then forgot my account info and had to create a new one...lol)...But it sho aint My org. (although at times I wish it was! )[Edited 3/17/09 5:21am] -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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Rorywan said: rwn said: You blamed Prince for the international cost of the Lotusflow3r CD without knowing he's the one to blame for it. That clearly shows your way of thinking. You may not be aware of it, but that's your problem. BTW: you decided to answer my posts. You're free to ignore me from now on, of course | |
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serpan99 said: tangerine7 said: i wonder what paymet options he will use with lotusflow3r? i.e. plain old credit card?
good question...and how secure will the website b 4 such online payments... I am hoping for PayPal! -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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So reading between the lines..
On launch day the only confirmed material is the 3 albums, a t-shirt, concert footage and sneak peaks at 'upcoming' material. hmmm.... "My God it's full of Stars"
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Marrk said: In no walk of life would you pay out $77 for something when you don't fully KNOW what you're getting. It makes no sense.
Soon as i hear about an upcoming UK tour or vault tracks for download, fine he might have my money. That's the only ancient history i'm interested in. Photos? Joking right? Where I understand your reasoning, my opinion and the way I feel about spending my personaly money goes back to NPGMC. Honestly, the freaking concert tickets I got from that club PAID for the membership! I was so close to him twice that I could feel his sweat. On top of that I did get other things from the club. It is apparent some folks did not have the best of luck or experience with the club for whatever reasons, but I had a fabulous experience. So based on the past I am more than willing to pay for this site. I "feel" he will offer the same sort of things and hopefully more. I am really hoping for a tour and first dibs at seating. -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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blacksweat said: purplecam said: as well as exclusive content that will only be available in the first week of the site launch and may never become available again. very interesting.. This is just something to give the "doubters"a reason to become a member straight away. instead of seeing what will happen. we do not stop playing because we grow old , we grow old because we stop playing | |
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BigDaddyHQ said: stanleylieber said: stop and listen to yourself dude. we pay prince for a service. it's his privilege to receive our money in exchange for his efforts to entertain us. paisley park and his lavish lifestyle come out of our pockets. [Edited 3/16/09 19:54pm] [Edited 3/16/09 20:16pm] What came first the chicken or the egg. We don't give Prince money to make music... we give him money because we like the music he makes. You pay a plumber for a service. A musician doesn't owe you anything. Totally agree on this point! -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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BigDaddyHQ said: Sdldawn said: This sounds like an analogy a third grader would come with.. sorry. Because it doesn't take anything past a third grade intelligence to see that simple logic. And its still true.   -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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P2daP said: BoraBora said: P, gimme "The Chocolate Invasion" CD Box Set and "Roadhouse Garden" CD (factory pressed, not downloads, thanks) and maybe you will have my $77,00=.
Maybe. You do realize prince is the one holding the whip right? You can not buy all the download albums you want. The truth is 99% of fans will buy the whatever music he sells because he got what we want, and we will do a lot for it. Again he's got the whip.  Prince + Whips = I'm There! -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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Bob Dylan said that just because a person likes his music doesn't mean he owes them anything. | |
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tammie said: blacksweat said: very interesting.. This is just something to give the "doubters"a reason to become a member straight away. instead of seeing what will happen. Yeah, but it will be available again.. a week later on the web... It's amazing he still thinks he can control this stuff. Once you put anything out in half decent quality, its out. Even streaming video is capturable easily. Not encouraging, not condemning, just saying.  "My God it's full of Stars"
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KeithyT said: Rorywan, rather than being unhappy I'm philosophic about it. I've never taken anything Prince has done personally. He makes his business choices and I've always had the choice to go with it or opt out.
Very well said. I feel the same way. I've just never chosen to opt out.  -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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npggirl77 said: BigDaddyHQ said: What came first the chicken or the egg. We don't give Prince money to make music... we give him money because we like the music he makes. You pay a plumber for a service. A musician doesn't owe you anything. Totally agree on this point! Yeah but if the plumber charges you 4 times the correct amount to fix your leak, is it ok? If the pipes break after a year, with a lifetime guarantee, will you pay him again to come back again and fix the pipes? well, will ya?...hmmm? "My God it's full of Stars"
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Rorywan said: tammie said: This is just something to give the "doubters"a reason to become a member straight away. instead of seeing what will happen. Yeah, but it will be available again.. a week later on the web... It's amazing he still thinks he can control this stuff. Once you put anything out in half decent quality, its out. Even streaming video is capturable easily. Not encouraging, not condemning, just saying. good point we do not stop playing because we grow old , we grow old because we stop playing | |
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npggirl77 said: KeithyT said: Rorywan, rather than being unhappy I'm philosophic about it. I've never taken anything Prince has done personally. He makes his business choices and I've always had the choice to go with it or opt out.
Very well said. I feel the same way. I've just never chosen to opt out. me neither!, I would have to say though, i'm at my lowest Purple point ever. Pale lilac I would say. It has been a constant flow of disappointments since the cancelled Croke Park gig last summer. He is not very popular in this corner of the world since that fiasco. It seems to be getting harder, NOT to get completely pissed at him.  "My God it's full of Stars"
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npggirl77 said:[quote] Marrk said: In no walk of life would you pay out $77 for something when you don't fully KNOW what you're getting. It makes no sense.
Soon as i hear about an upcoming UK tour or vault tracks for download, fine he might have my money. That's the only ancient history i'm interested in. Photos? Joking right? Where I understand your reasoning, my opinion and the way I feel about spending my personaly money goes back to NPGMC. Honestly, the freaking concert tickets I got from that club PAID for the membership! I was so close to him a few times that I could feel his sweat. On top of that I did get other things from the club. It is apparent some folks did not have the best of luck or experience with the club for whatever reasons, but I had a fabulous experience. So based on the past I am more than willing to pay for this site. I "feel" he will offer the same sort of things and hopefully more. I am really hoping for a tour and first dibs at seating [Edited 3/17/09 5:24am] -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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people gettin' all testy with this shit like $77 is a million bucks or something. do what you want with YOUR money and  . i have a crap job, am thinking of putting myself crazy in debt buying a new car, my rent is going up, am tryna talk to this girl and will no doubt spend my money on all kinds of other stupid things i don't really need anyways (strippers, food, etc.), so what the fuck? am not totally amped about seeing no pics. although he is a pretty motherfucker, i can see his ass plenty of other places for free . wouldn't mind getting some t-shirts and shit, since the lovesexy one i got on ebay don't really fit  . i don't trust his selections of video material to be anything i haven't seen already or have any interest in seeing, unless he puts out some lovesexy aftershow videos and shit . will d/l the albums from the site, buy the cds at target and pray i get at least one extra track (and not no bullshit instrumental disco jellyfish shit either ) for being a "founding member". have accepted the fact i will NEVER see him live unless he brings his purple ass somewhere in the vicinity of fucking connecticut  and has the show be for under a fucking grand to get in (again, not bitching about princey, just my own shitty situation). the idea of un-released material gets me pecker hard more than anything, but even if anything does pops up, it probably won't be nothing to write home about. but that's okay, cuz it's prince and i'm happy with the crumbs i get . was not an npgmc member, so i can't understand that whole gripe entirely. i'd be burnt if i paid dough for this site and the shit closed the next week too, but at the end of the day, it's not like he put a gun to your head. you knew who you were dealing with . gotta have something to look forward to. even if it is a bust, you always get what you paid for...
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Rorywan said: npggirl77 said: Totally agree on this point! Yeah but if the plumber charges you 4 times the correct amount to fix your leak, is it ok? If the pipes break after a year, with a lifetime guarantee, will you pay him again to come back again and fix the pipes? well, will ya?...hmmm? Honey, if that plumber looks and sounds like Prince, YEP...I'd keep causing leaks so he could come fix my pipes. -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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purplecam said: Over time, Prince will continue to give fans more access to high-end never released photos and video content and much more.
I sure hope that "much more" means downloadable music not available anywhere else. 
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