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Reply #150 posted 02/04/11 9:52pm

SCNDLS

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Astasheiks said:

SCNDLS said:

And as hard as I am on P, this fiasco, which I called from Day 1, is in NO way his fault. They knew his fee, hell everybody on the Org does, and they didn't have his money. I'm hearing that he was actually at the hotel, was in the car, and the event organizers didn't have his money so he bounced. This show bidness, show me the money and I'll give you a show. Ya'll should know P's motto by now:

I hear u, but the way they were spinning it on the news tonight sure gave P sorta bad publicity and that couldn't be good PR....hhhmmm confused

I said earlier that he would get the backlash if there were issues cuz he's the famous name. Nobody is gonna put the organizer on blast. shrug

Oh well, I eagerly await the next instance of Prince-related shenanigans and fuck ups. On to the next one popcorn

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Reply #151 posted 02/04/11 9:55pm

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I agree...no matter what the reason..the spin the news gave it, made Prince look bad....

It'll be alright tho....in 2004 he sold out 2 shows for MUSICOLOGY TOUR. People WILL come see him.

"Now U can ALL take a bite of my purple rok!"
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Reply #152 posted 02/04/11 9:56pm

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"& he KNOW THIS......Man!"

nana

"Now U can ALL take a bite of my purple rok!"
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Reply #153 posted 02/04/11 9:59pm

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2elijah said:

I know I was just messing with ya...innocent

spank Don't play with me, missy, Prince in town and I ain't looking at him, I ain't in the mood!

Well...you could always jump in your car and go looking for him...lol Right now he might have half of Dallas doing just that, after what happened tonight, which of course was not his fault. It was more than likely a business deal gone bad.

Imagine the stories the guys in charge of the event must have been trying to come up with, to tell Prince they didn't have his money. They were probably embarassed to tell him they didn't have all that was agreed upon. What if it went down like this:

Event Guy #1: "Okay, when Godfather Prince pulls up in his limo, remain calm, and whatever you do...do not look into his eyes!"

Event Guy #2: "Okay, Boss, I'll try."

Godfather Prince pulls up in his stretch limo. The window slowly rolls down, Godfather Prince gestures with his right index finger for the Event Guys to approach his limo, and the Event Guys proceed towards the vehicle:

Event Guy #1 and #2: "Hello Mr. Prince" (Event Guys extend their hands towards Godfather Prince for a handshake, but Godfather Prince just gives them....the look. The Event guys start to shudder.

Godfather Prince: "You got my money?"

Event Guys #1 and #2: "Uh... Mr. P, there seems to have been a problem with the money we agreed to pay you..." (Godfather Prince interrupts)

Godfather Prince: "What? What?? Naaahhhh...that's not how it's going down. I don't play that, because we had an agreement. .So what's it gonna be?

Event Guys #1 and 2 stand in silence and shock, careful not to look Godfather Prince in the eyes ...::crickets chirping::

Godfather Prince: "Oh, so it's like that huh?? If you don't have my money, right here, right now, then this is how it's gonna be...forget you!!!"

Godfather Prince to the Limo Driver: "Pookie, let's go!" Pookie pulls off with Godfather Prince in the limo........Sccccreeeeecccch

Godfather Prince has left the scene...but you could catch his performance at Madison Square Gardens in NYC on Monday, 2/7/11 @ 7:30pm......tickets on sale at www.ticketmaster.com thumbs up!

[Edited 2/4/11 22:34pm]

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Reply #154 posted 02/04/11 10:01pm

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LOVEVERY1 said:

2elijah said:

Hey everyone,

He is due to be there til Sunday so maybe he will play @ some of the other event taken place around town.

If thats the case, Does many artists push it to the edge like that? In other words, He has a concert Monday 2/7 in NYC, knowing this unpredictable Texas weather he could get iced/snowed in Sunday and be late or have to cancel his NYC show. Seems risky for the winter time, instead of staying his tail in NYC. lol Now if the Concert was later on that week seem like that would be less of a risk to be down here right now??? confused

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Reply #155 posted 02/04/11 10:02pm

2elijah

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2elijah said:

True. If the people in charge of the event knew the tix sales were low from 2 days ago, then maybe they should have considered cancelling it, and then P and his band would not have made the trip out there.. That was tacky for the ones in charge of this event, to not have the money that was agreed upon. Business is business. He has a band to pay and travel/hotel expenses, etc. to cover. Like Prince said a long time ago "Don't Play Me", so I guess he bounced when he realized they came up short. shrug

Tell like it is 2elijah, they should known that 2 days ago!

lol You know I'm just having fun with this right? I bet Prince will find a way to work things out before leaving Dallas.

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Reply #156 posted 02/04/11 10:04pm

2elijah

LOVEVERY1 said:

2elijah said:

Hey everyone,

He is due to be there til Sunday so maybe he will play @ some of the other event taken place around town.

Okay, asl long as he makes it to MSG on Monday for us NYC fans. biggrin

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Reply #157 posted 02/04/11 10:07pm

Astasheiks

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2elijah said:

SCNDLS said:

spank Don't play with me, missy, Prince in town and I ain't looking at him, I ain't in the mood!

Well...you could always jump in your car and go looking for him...lol Right now he might have half of Dallas doing just that, after what happened tonight, which of course was not his fault. It was more than likely a business deal gone bad.

Imagine the stories the guys in charge of the event must have been trying to come up with, to tell Prince they didn't have his money. They were probably embarassed to tell him they didn't have all that was agreed upon. What if it went down like this:

Event Guy #1: "Okay, when Godfather Prince pulls up in his limo, remain calm, and whatever you do...do not t look him in the eyes!"

'

Event Guy #2: "Okay, Boss, I'll try."

Godfather Prince pulls up his stretch limo. The window slowly rolls down, Godfather Prince gestures with his right index finger for the Event Guys to approach his limo, and the Event Guys proceed towards the vehicle:

Event Guy #1 and #2: "Hello Mr. Prince" (Event Guys extend their hands towards Godfather Prince for a handshake, but Godfather Prince just gives them....the look. The Event guys start to shudder.

Godfather Prince: "You got my money?"

Event Guys #1 and #2: "Uh... Mr. P, there seems to have been a problem with the money we agreed to pay you..." (Godfather Prince interrupts)

Godfather Prince: "What? What?? Naaahhhh...that's not how it's going down. I don't play that, because we had an agreement,. So what's it gonna be?

Event Guys #1 and 2 stand in silence and shock, careful not to look Godfather Prince in the eyes ...::crickets chirping::

Gosftather Prince: "Oh, so it's like that huh?? If you don't have my money, right here, right now, then this is how it's gonna be..forget you!!!"

Godfather Prince to the Limo Driver: "Pookie, let's go!" Pookie pulls off with Godfather Prince in the limo........Sccccreeeeecccch

Godfather Prince has left the scene.

lol Somebody call Spike Lee...new movie: "Prince Doesn't Do Dallas" ...... hee hee lol

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Reply #158 posted 02/04/11 10:07pm

pfunkpilot

I was in Dallas Tues and Wed. The weather killed the Super Bowl Week mood. The organizers may not have been able to get the hotel facilities up to standards quick enough. Who knows? I do know that after the party that was Super Bowl Week in Miami last year, 2011 was a downer. Let's hope for a good game at least. Steelers by 6 1/2

since Run & Them were saying "Here we go"
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Reply #159 posted 02/04/11 10:09pm

Astasheiks

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Can't you see Shelby and Elisa shaking their head if they've read any of these comments. lol

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Reply #160 posted 02/04/11 10:10pm

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2elijah said:

SCNDLS said:

spank Don't play with me, missy, Prince in town and I ain't looking at him, I ain't in the mood!

Well...you could always jump in your car and go looking for him...lol Right now he might have half of Dallas doing just that, after what happened tonight, which of course was not his fault. It was more than likely a business deal gone bad.

Imagine the stories the guys in charge of the event must have been trying to come up with, to tell Prince they didn't have his money. They were probably embarassed to tell him they didn't have all that was agreed upon. What if it went down like this:

Event Guy #1: "Okay, when Godfather Prince pulls up in his limo, remain calm, and whatever you do...do not t look him in the eyes!"

'

Event Guy #2: "Okay, Boss, I'll try."

Godfather Prince pulls up his stretch limo. The window slowly rolls down, Godfather Prince gestures with his right index finger for the Event Guys to approach his limo, and the Event Guys proceed towards the vehicle:

Event Guy #1 and #2: "Hello Mr. Prince" (Event Guys extend their hands towards Godfather Prince for a handshake, but Godfather Prince just gives them....the look. The Event guys start to shudder.

Godfather Prince: "You got my money?"

Event Guys #1 and #2: "Uh... Mr. P, there seems to have been a problem with the money we agreed to pay you..." (Godfather Prince interrupts)

Godfather Prince: "What? What?? Naaahhhh...that's not how it's going down. I don't play that, because we had an agreement,. So what's it gonna be?

Event Guys #1 and 2 stand in silence and shock, careful not to look Godfather Prince in the eyes ...::crickets chirping::

Gosftather Prince: "Oh, so it's like that huh?? If you don't have my money, right here, right now, then this is how it's gonna be..forget you!!!"

Godfather Prince to the Limo Driver: "Pookie, let's go!" Pookie pulls off with Godfather Prince in the limo........Sccccreeeeecccch

Godfather Prince has left the scene.

I wonder if the money was only one reason why Prince wouldn't play. If the place was relatively empty, the media would have noticed. There was a DMN reporter in the audience. Even before the concert was cancelled, some jokers in the DMN comments were already calling him a "has-been" who couldn't pull in a decent crowd anymore. This was a lose-lose situation for him, I guess. Unfortunately, it fits into a general media narrative about how the Dallas Super Bowl has been a disaster.

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Reply #161 posted 02/04/11 10:11pm

2elijah

Astasheiks said:

2elijah said:

Well...you could always jump in your car and go looking for him...lol Right now he might have half of Dallas doing just that, after what happened tonight, which of course was not his fault. It was more than likely a business deal gone bad.

Imagine the stories the guys in charge of the event must have been trying to come up with, to tell Prince they didn't have his money. They were probably embarassed to tell him they didn't have all that was agreed upon. What if it went down like this:

Event Guy #1: "Okay, when Godfather Prince pulls up in his limo, remain calm, and whatever you do...do not t look him in the eyes!"

'

Event Guy #2: "Okay, Boss, I'll try."

Godfather Prince pulls up his stretch limo. The window slowly rolls down, Godfather Prince gestures with his right index finger for the Event Guys to approach his limo, and the Event Guys proceed towards the vehicle:

Event Guy #1 and #2: "Hello Mr. Prince" (Event Guys extend their hands towards Godfather Prince for a handshake, but Godfather Prince just gives them....the look. The Event guys start to shudder.

Godfather Prince: "You got my money?"

Event Guys #1 and #2: "Uh... Mr. P, there seems to have been a problem with the money we agreed to pay you..." (Godfather Prince interrupts)

Godfather Prince: "What? What?? Naaahhhh...that's not how it's going down. I don't play that, because we had an agreement,. So what's it gonna be?

Event Guys #1 and 2 stand in silence and shock, careful not to look Godfather Prince in the eyes ...::crickets chirping::

Gosftather Prince: "Oh, so it's like that huh?? If you don't have my money, right here, right now, then this is how it's gonna be..forget you!!!"

Godfather Prince to the Limo Driver: "Pookie, let's go!" Pookie pulls off with Godfather Prince in the limo........Sccccreeeeecccch

Godfather Prince has left the scene.

lol Somebody call Spike Lee...new movie: "Prince Doesn't Do Dallas" ...... hee hee lol

Yes, but he does New York, and NY fans love it! woot! Just having fun with it, no harm really.biggrin

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Reply #162 posted 02/04/11 10:15pm

Astasheiks

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2elijah said:

Well...you could always jump in your car and go looking for him...lol Right now he might have half of Dallas doing just that, after what happened tonight, which of course was not his fault. It was more than likely a business deal gone bad.

Imagine the stories the guys in charge of the event must have been trying to come up with, to tell Prince they didn't have his money. They were probably embarassed to tell him they didn't have all that was agreed upon. What if it went down like this:

Event Guy #1: "Okay, when Godfather Prince pulls up in his limo, remain calm, and whatever you do...do not t look him in the eyes!"

'

Event Guy #2: "Okay, Boss, I'll try."

Godfather Prince pulls up his stretch limo. The window slowly rolls down, Godfather Prince gestures with his right index finger for the Event Guys to approach his limo, and the Event Guys proceed towards the vehicle:

Event Guy #1 and #2: "Hello Mr. Prince" (Event Guys extend their hands towards Godfather Prince for a handshake, but Godfather Prince just gives them....the look. The Event guys start to shudder.

Godfather Prince: "You got my money?"

Event Guys #1 and #2: "Uh... Mr. P, there seems to have been a problem with the money we agreed to pay you..." (Godfather Prince interrupts)

Godfather Prince: "What? What?? Naaahhhh...that's not how it's going down. I don't play that, because we had an agreement,. So what's it gonna be?

Event Guys #1 and 2 stand in silence and shock, careful not to look Godfather Prince in the eyes ...::crickets chirping::

Gosftather Prince: "Oh, so it's like that huh?? If you don't have my money, right here, right now, then this is how it's gonna be..forget you!!!"

Godfather Prince to the Limo Driver: "Pookie, let's go!" Pookie pulls off with Godfather Prince in the limo........Sccccreeeeecccch

Godfather Prince has left the scene.

I wonder if the money was only one reason why Prince wouldn't play. If the place was relatively empty, the media would have noticed. There was a DMN reporter in the audience. Even before the concert was cancelled, some jokers in the DMN comments were already calling him a "has-been" who couldn't pull in a decent crowd anymore. This was a lose-lose situation for him, I guess. Unfortunately, it fits into a general media narrative about how the Dallas Super Bowl has been a disaster.

Speaking of those comments, I replied to one of those posters:

"stevew said on February 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM Blah, Blah, Blah! $1500 was way to much to see a ... wait for it ... HAS BEEN ... trying to ride the Super Bowl Weekend Blitz!."

He couldn't be too much of a "Has Been" if he's earned millions of dollars from the Concert Series he's had at Madison Square Garden in New York City for the last 2 months and even has another Concert February 7....hhhmmm... thats a pretty good "Has Been"!!! lol

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Reply #163 posted 02/04/11 10:20pm

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Astasheiks said:

electricberet said:

I wonder if the money was only one reason why Prince wouldn't play. If the place was relatively empty, the media would have noticed. There was a DMN reporter in the audience. Even before the concert was cancelled, some jokers in the DMN comments were already calling him a "has-been" who couldn't pull in a decent crowd anymore. This was a lose-lose situation for him, I guess. Unfortunately, it fits into a general media narrative about how the Dallas Super Bowl has been a disaster.

Speaking of those comments, I replied to one of those posters:

"stevew said on February 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM Blah, Blah, Blah! $1500 was way to much to see a ... wait for it ... HAS BEEN ... trying to ride the Super Bowl Weekend Blitz!."

He couldn't be too much of a "Has Been" if he's earned millions of dollars from the Concert Series he's had at Madison Square Garden in New York City for the last 2 months and even has another Concert February 7....hhhmmm... thats a pretty good "Has Been"!!! lol

I couldn't agree more. I'm guessing 99% of the DFW population has no idea that those New York concerts are happening. It would help if he did a full-scale U.S. tour, or at least released a new album here.

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Reply #164 posted 02/04/11 10:24pm

2elijah

electricberet said:

2elijah said:

Well...you could always jump in your car and go looking for him...lol Right now he might have half of Dallas doing just that, after what happened tonight, which of course was not his fault. It was more than likely a business deal gone bad.

Imagine the stories the guys in charge of the event must have been trying to come up with, to tell Prince they didn't have his money. They were probably embarassed to tell him they didn't have all that was agreed upon. What if it went down like this:

Event Guy #1: "Okay, when Godfather Prince pulls up in his limo, remain calm, and whatever you do...do not t look him in the eyes!"

'

Event Guy #2: "Okay, Boss, I'll try."

Godfather Prince pulls up his stretch limo. The window slowly rolls down, Godfather Prince gestures with his right index finger for the Event Guys to approach his limo, and the Event Guys proceed towards the vehicle:

Event Guy #1 and #2: "Hello Mr. Prince" (Event Guys extend their hands towards Godfather Prince for a handshake, but Godfather Prince just gives them....the look. The Event guys start to shudder.

Godfather Prince: "You got my money?"

Event Guys #1 and #2: "Uh... Mr. P, there seems to have been a problem with the money we agreed to pay you..." (Godfather Prince interrupts)

Godfather Prince: "What? What?? Naaahhhh...that's not how it's going down. I don't play that, because we had an agreement,. So what's it gonna be?

Event Guys #1 and 2 stand in silence and shock, careful not to look Godfather Prince in the eyes ...::crickets chirping::

Gosftather Prince: "Oh, so it's like that huh?? If you don't have my money, right here, right now, then this is how it's gonna be..forget you!!!"

Godfather Prince to the Limo Driver: "Pookie, let's go!" Pookie pulls off with Godfather Prince in the limo........Sccccreeeeecccch

Godfather Prince has left the scene.

I wonder if the money was only one reason why Prince wouldn't play. If the place was relatively empty, the media would have noticed. There was a DMN reporter in the audience. Even before the concert was cancelled, some jokers in the DMN comments were already calling him a "has-been" who couldn't pull in a decent crowd anymore. This was a lose-lose situation for him, I guess. Unfortunately, it fits into a general media narrative about how the Dallas Super Bowl has been a disaster.

If it was about money, I don't think it was about "greed". The man has band members to pay travel/food/hotel expenses/fees to pay to ship equpment, etc. Business is buiness, even for a musician. If it was about low tiicket sales, then the organizers for the event had enough time to cancel it, as well as keeping abreast about the threat of bad weather. When they decided to move the concert inside the hotel, that should have been one of the hints, that there may be a posiiblility of rescheduling it for another day or a cancellation.

People will just have to wait until the details of what happened comes out which caused the cancellation. Right now, it's just a bunch of rumors and hearsay surfacing. I know I'm making light of the situation, but it's all in fun, and I'm not making fun of those that took the time to travel there, including Prince and his band, and the customers who paid, and the volunteers as well, who were all hoping this event would happen.

The event organizers should have made the decision to cancel or postpone the event, until a later date, with the threat of bad weather and low ticket sales, possibly being contributers for the reason(s) to cancel. shrug

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Reply #165 posted 02/05/11 12:07am

eireboy34

Sorrry for you guys that the show is cancelled but let's admit , we're getting used to it.

Prince has become such a prick.

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Reply #166 posted 02/05/11 2:13am

rafael

I am collecting posters of cancelled Prince concerts. I already have Oxford, Dublin, Geneva.

Anyone can help with a Dallas poster??

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Reply #167 posted 02/05/11 4:39am

amerozzie

I am telling u he is and was in town.....just head west from Dallas . I knew all along he was going to cancel. He was very upset at sells , it wasn't his fault . You notice their not coming out bashing Prince for canceling .,No....a deal was made and they couldn't come up with the money.....Peace...3121....Prince O ?
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Reply #168 posted 02/05/11 5:07am

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It's OK Prince...Come back to NYC....All the orgers Love U in NY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #169 posted 02/05/11 5:14am

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amerozzie said:

I am telling u he is and was in town.......just head west from Dallas . I knew all along he was going to cancel. He was very upset at sells , it wasn't his fault . You notice their not coming out bashing Prince for canceling .,No....a deal was made and they couldn't come up with the money.....Peace...3121....Prince O ?

How is this not Prince's fault?

His recent music is mainly crap.

He does no or little promotion...apart from us sad folk on here, most people don' know or don't really care about Prince concerts.

He is so unreliable and cancels so easily that many people don't want to take the risk.

Ticket prices too high in this day and age.

Not Prince's fault??!

Get offa cloud 9!

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Reply #170 posted 02/05/11 5:17am

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Sorry for the people who planned to go or spent money but since I am going to the NYC show maybe he and the band will be more energized and psyched to play....

STill..charity or not....He didn't agree to be free, some of the proceeds were to be free and if he was not getting paid, like anyone, no one works for free. As someone said there is logistical nightmares, fees, hotels, payroll, they are ALREADY OUT if indeed they are in Dallas.

For sure expensive for the average person; maybe that is why. Perhaps if it was in NYC OR LA or somewhere it would have been filled up.

TOMEEBOY said:

It's OK Prince...Come back to NYC....All the orgers Love U in NY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #171 posted 02/05/11 6:40am

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vandeluca said:

Sorry for the people who planned to go or spent money but since I am going to the NYC show maybe he and the band will be more energized and psyched to play....



STill..charity or not....He didn't agree to be free, some of the proceeds were to be free and if he was not getting paid, like anyone, no one works for free. As someone said there is logistical nightmares, fees, hotels, payroll, they are ALREADY OUT if indeed they are in Dallas.



For sure expensive for the average person; maybe that is why. Perhaps if it was in NYC OR LA or somewhere it would have been filled up.



TOMEEBOY said:


It's OK Prince...Come back to NYC....All the orgers Love U in NY!!!!!



its ok....I live in Dallas...first people here can careless about prince...not me..all we hear on the radio stations r his bubble songs...like someone said earlier he should of played a full concert at the airlines center for 64-200 a ticket....if u look at Dallas were more of the rap scene...and there were plenty of that going on...party wise...for half the price....that's why...ft worth was the place to be....hint...hint.
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Reply #172 posted 02/05/11 6:42am

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eireboy34 said:

amerozzie said:

I am telling u he is and was in town.......just head west from Dallas . I knew all along he was going to cancel. He was very upset at sells , it wasn't his fault . You notice their not coming out bashing Prince for canceling .,No....a deal was made and they couldn't come up with the money.....Peace...3121....Prince O ?

How is this not Prince's fault?

His recent music is mainly crap.

He does no or little promotion...apart from us sad folk on here, most people don' know or don't really care about Prince concerts.

He is so unreliable and cancels so easily that many people don't want to take the risk.

Ticket prices too high in this day and age.

Not Prince's fault??!

Get offa cloud 9!

I usually avoid posts like this, but I have to say something.

Come on, man. U are really tripping. Your opinion of Prince's music doesn't factor into this equation. As others have stated, the organizers confused many of the potential attentees by canceling the event many times, then saying it was back on. There is plenty of blame to pass around for this and Prince is not to be blamed. He is just an entertainer that didn't get paid for a gig. That's it. No one works for free.

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Reply #173 posted 02/05/11 6:45am

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Astasheiks said:

I hear u, but the way they were spinning it on the news tonight sure gave P sorta bad publicity and that couldn't be good PR....hhhmmm confused

I said earlier that he would get the backlash if there were issues cuz he's the famous name. Nobody is gonna put the organizer on blast. shrug

Oh well, I eagerly await the next instance of Prince-related shenanigans and fuck ups. On to the next one popcorn

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Reply #174 posted 02/05/11 6:45am

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as many times as prince has flaked on paying for services rendered you would think he would have just done the show.

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #175 posted 02/05/11 6:46am

eireboy34

daPrettyman said:

eireboy34 said:

How is this not Prince's fault?

His recent music is mainly crap.

He does no or little promotion...apart from us sad folk on here, most people don' know or don't really care about Prince concerts.

He is so unreliable and cancels so easily that many people don't want to take the risk.

Ticket prices too high in this day and age.

Not Prince's fault??!

Get offa cloud 9!

I usually avoid posts like this, but I have to say something.

Come on, man. U are really tripping. Your opinion of Prince's music doesn't factor into this equation. As others have stated, the organizers confused many of the potential attentees by canceling the event many times, then saying it was back on. There is plenty of blame to pass around for this and Prince is not to be blamed. He is just an entertainer that didn't get paid for a gig. That's it. No one works for free.

You are entitled to your opinion.

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Reply #176 posted 02/05/11 7:09am

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fansince79 said:

Please, don't beat me up for saying this: But for some reason I always thought that when musicians did a concert for charity that they performed for free and any money made from the cost of tickets/donations went toward the cause. Someone enlighten me on how all of this works, because I don't want to come down hard on Prince for not showing up if he was not at fault. It just seems mean and cold to sit in your car the entire evening while people are waiting to see you perform, esp. since the event was about helping the youth and giving back. Why not put the money issue aside and just do the show because you care about the cause/charity? Once again, enlighten me on this, please...go easy on me!lol:lol:

That's not a stupid question at all. I used to think the same thing.

I volunteer for an organization that books 20 of the biggest names on country and rock each year. We are a 501(c)3 non-profit, and our excess funds are given away as four-year college scholarships (we're over $250 million given away so far). There is no "profit" whatsoever; in fact, we have over 20,000 volunteers that give their time and talents to this. So we're as far away from a typical concert promoter as you can get.

I asked the president one time if the entertainers gave us a break because of that. He kind of laughed and said, "You would think so, but it's actually just the opposite. However, it isn't the entertainers, it's the management companies. There are only a few that handle the vast majority of acts, and they all know we have to book 20 acts over 20 days, and that our calendar is inflexible. So they try to hold us over a barrel as long as they can, so they can get the highest price for their client".

I don't hold that against the entertainer, or the management company. The company is just doing their job. And trust me - fame is fleeting. We've booked many, many acts that were on fire one year, and then weren't heard of since. So I can understand their mindset being, "I'd better get all I can today, because I might not be popular tomorrow".

Some entertainers have given back to us. Although no one that I know has played for free, people like Hank Williams, Jr., and Jon Bon Jovi have donated back part of their fees to the scholarship fund.

As for Prince, I think SCDLS is right. This concert was NOT thrown by a charity - the charity was supposed to be a beneficiary. For all we know, Prince said, "Look - if you pay me, there's no way you can give a dime to the charity. Heck, you can't pay me hardly at all. So here's the deal. I will cancel, and you will write a check of $XXX to the charity out of your pocket, and you will refund the ticket prices to the customers. This is the cheapest way out of this fiasco for you, and I make sure the charity gets something out of the deal. I'll get bad publicity, and I'm out what it cost to get my band and equipment here, but I can deal with that."

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Reply #177 posted 02/05/11 7:14am

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Prince Super Bowl charity concert off, again

WFAA

Posted on February 4, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Updated yesterday at 10:39 PM

DALLAS - The charitable organization that was bringing recording artist Prince to Dallas for a charity event Friday night canceled the concert, said it was back on and has once again canceled the event at its new location at the Hotel Intercontinental in Addison.

At 1:21 p.m. Friday, the Goss-Michael Foundation released the following statement:

"We are extremely disappointed that the Event featuring Prince, scheduled for Friday, February 4, at the Intercontinental Hotel, has been cancelled. It is our understanding that the River Alexander Group, the event organizer was unable to fund and produce the evening. The organizer came to the Goss-Michael Foundation, invited us to be the beneficiary and receive some of the proceeds which would have gone to our high school scholarship program."

Less than an hour later, the foundation "rescinded" that announcement, saying that "circumstances had changed," adding this terse statement:

"Prince has arrived in Dallas and will perform this evening."

Organizers said while Prince's band showed up, the singer was an actual no-show. However, sources said that Prince did show up, but never got out of his vehicle before leaving the hotel all-together in the early evening.

Many people found out about the cancelation as they drove up to the hotel, and others found out after already waiting 45 minutes at the hotel.

"There was this guy that came down and said, 'We hate to inform that there will be no show; The band is here, but Prince unfortunately couldn't make it,'" said Debra Moorehead, who showed up at the hotel to attend the event.

Moorehead said she was also told they would get their money back.

The Prince event was billed as "an all-inclusive soiree" with music, art, food spirits and more. Erykah Badu was also scheduled to perform.

Ticket prices started at $1,500, and were still available online at 2 p.m. Friday.

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Reply #178 posted 02/05/11 7:16am

RodeoSchro

Now, one positive that might come from this is the apparent fact that Prince was not enough of a draw to sell, what? A couple thousand tickets? Maybe 1,500? Certainly not many.

He could not sell basically a handful of tickets to an event held on the one weekend of the year when the most well-heeled and publicity-conscious people in all the country were gathered in one place. Talk about a target-rich environment! But whatever the reason, Prince could not sell $1,500 tickets in sufficient quantities in the easiest market of the entire year.

So maybe the price of poker just went DOWN.

I kind of yearn for another "One Night Alone" tour in smaller venues. Some may call that a step down, but I would call it heaven.

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Reply #179 posted 02/05/11 7:23am

eireboy34

RodeoSchro said:

fansince79 said:

Please, don't beat me up for saying this: But for some reason I always thought that when musicians did a concert for charity that they performed for free and any money made from the cost of tickets/donations went toward the cause. Someone enlighten me on how all of this works, because I don't want to come down hard on Prince for not showing up if he was not at fault. It just seems mean and cold to sit in your car the entire evening while people are waiting to see you perform, esp. since the event was about helping the youth and giving back. Why not put the money issue aside and just do the show because you care about the cause/charity? Once again, enlighten me on this, please...go easy on me!lol:lol:

That's not a stupid question at all. I used to think the same thing.

I volunteer for an organization that books 20 of the biggest names on country and rock each year. We are a 501(c)3 non-profit, and our excess funds are given away as four-year college scholarships (we're over $250 million given away so far). There is no "profit" whatsoever; in fact, we have over 20,000 volunteers that give their time and talents to this. So we're as far away from a typical concert promoter as you can get.

I asked the president one time if the entertainers gave us a break because of that. He kind of laughed and said, "You would think so, but it's actually just the opposite. However, it isn't the entertainers, it's the management companies. There are only a few that handle the vast majority of acts, and they all know we have to book 20 acts over 20 days, and that our calendar is inflexible. So they try to hold us over a barrel as long as they can, so they can get the highest price for their client".

I don't hold that against the entertainer, or the management company. The company is just doing their job. And trust me - fame is fleeting. We've booked many, many acts that were on fire one year, and then weren't heard of since. So I can understand their mindset being, "I'd better get all I can today, because I might not be popular tomorrow".

Some entertainers have given back to us. Although no one that I know has played for free, people like Hank Williams, Jr., and Jon Bon Jovi have donated back part of their fees to the scholarship fund.

As for Prince, I think SCDLS is right. This concert was NOT thrown by a charity - the charity was supposed to be a beneficiary. For all we know, Prince said, "Look - if you pay me, there's no way you can give a dime to the charity. Heck, you can't pay me hardly at all. So here's the deal. I will cancel, and you will write a check of $XXX to the charity out of your pocket, and you will refund the ticket prices to the customers. This is the cheapest way out of this fiasco for you, and I make sure the charity gets something out of the deal. I'll get bad publicity, and I'm out what it cost to get my band and equipment here, but I can deal with that."

I admire your naivety

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