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Reply #420 posted 01/05/22 2:27pm

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TonyVanDam said:

PennyPurple said:

Let me fill you in on why they were banned, because by your comments you don't have a damn clue.

They were banned because a mod decided to post his opinion on a topic thread that he started, and they disagreed with his opinion, so since he was power hungry and went unchecked for so long, he banned them. For no good reason. Said Mod is no longer a mod or a member of this forum, partly because of this.


They did not break any rules, they should be unbanned.


Meanwhile you have someone here like Truthbomb, who had several accounts that were banned who got back in, and baited everyone (which was against the rules) The mods knew it was an alter account and let it happen, because they agreed with TB's views and they ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN AND DID NOTHING. Now that it's getting a little warm in here for the mods, they decided to ban TB (again).


If negativity was a banned offense, then there wouldn't be an org. There are so many negative people on PM&M and none of them have been banned. For example: Bart.


Remember the fall out with Casey aka Militant when he banned a member just for disagreeing with him. There was such an uproar from members that the person who was banned got unbanned and we haven't heard from Casey since.


People aren't supposed to create dupe posts but Bart gets away with it all the time. When reported to a Mod, the mod does nothing. SHE does nothing. These mods have their favs and unfavs, this whole place needs to be wiped free of these mods and new ones need to be created. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

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So said you, an orger that wanted Mdiver unbanned. rolleyes

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You might not remember this [OR maybe do not want to remember this?!?], but Mdiver was one of those controversial ex-orgers that needed to be banned for some of the uncovered racist AND spiteful tactics he used to pull in these forums many years ago.

U know it is ok 2 be a racist......as long as it is against brown folks.

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Reply #421 posted 01/05/22 3:56pm

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Mumio said:

I think all of the forums should be shut down and the site changed to a Prince archive website. There's a lot of good info here and it should continue to be shared to everyone. Maybe one forum for questions only, no discussion at all.

I know many will not like my thoughts but I don't really care lol I just don't want to see this place degrade any further than it has. I'm not really sure why so many want to stay here given the many complaints you all have. Haven't you seen enough to understand that certain things are NEVER going to change lol? Too many people here thrive on the arguing and fighting. There's other forums for what most of you want to talk about. The forum that some of the banned members set up is open and available for use. There's also the ability to open a Facebook group or even go out there and create some new forum. Move on people, it won't hurt any of you.

I agree with you.

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Reply #422 posted 01/06/22 10:24pm

SoulAlive

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IanRG said:

We are all here because of our love of Prince

There are a lot of people here that are not Prince fans (but I am)

It's funny that so many of those 'Politics and Religion" folks never really posted in any other forum.You never see them in the 'Prince:Music and More' forum.A new SDE could be announced,and not a single word from them lol and now that their favorite forum is gone,you don't really see them at all anymore,lol.Just proves why they were really here in the first place,doesn't it? hmmm

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Reply #423 posted 01/06/22 10:51pm

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SoulAlive said:

TruthBomb said:

Ok so let me get this straight for 4 years when Trump was in office the org had endless garbage posts spewing hatred and non stop attacks to those that dared speak the TRUTH but as soon as the BRANDON ADMINISTRATION TURNS OUT TO BE A COMPLETE SHITSHOW then this is the time to turn off P&R??? I admire BEN for all he’s done to create this unique space but find it completely HYPOCRITICAL to have not done this 4 years ago.

I'm sure there are plently of hate-filled,CONservative forums out there.You can go and spew your right-wing bullshit elsewhere.


Whatever happened to that one pumpkin was supposed to start.

Oh wait...

But he wanted to create another one, and....

Oh wait.


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Reply #424 posted 01/06/22 11:18pm

IanRG

IanRG said:

We are all here because of our love of Prince

kpowers said:

There are a lot of people here that are not Prince fans (but I am)

SoulAlive said:

It's funny that so many of those 'Politics and Religion" folks never really posted in any other forum.You never see them in the 'Prince:Music and More' forum.A new SDE could be announced,and not a single word from them lol and now that their favorite forum is gone,you don't really see them at all anymore,lol.Just proves why they were really here in the first place,doesn't it? hmmm

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No, not at all.

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PM&M is toxic as well - I lurk there everyday and learn from some of the posts. I choose to almost never post there because I am constantly appalled at how new people are treated, how people are targeted by others, how so much effort is put into rubbbishing Prince or "competing" artists and people who like the wrong song, era or style. I can understand why people can be wedded to a political belief and choose to argue for this - I CANNOT understand why anyone would argue with the same rudeness and derision with a person over a song - this is a personal choice and everyone's view on what they like is right.

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PS I have every SDE and will get every SDE. I understand that over time I will like different tracks from the SDE releases from the ones I initially preferred, so why on earth would I argue with someones else about whether Eggplant or Blanche is the better song?

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Reply #425 posted 01/07/22 9:55am

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One could also argue that voting for this or that political party is a personal choice and everyone's opinion is right.
If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #426 posted 01/07/22 12:56pm

IanRG

SantanaMaitreya said:

One could also argue that voting for this or that political party is a personal choice and everyone's opinion is right.

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Absolutely - but only if they just want to argue by trying to miss my point.

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When you have people liking a song, an artist but only in a certain era, or album, or only when they do a certain style and come here to argue that others should all do the same with same the vitriol and venom of a politically charged argument then you have meaningless argument that I am just going to ignore. This cannot be spun to say that I am not a fan of Prince just because I seldom post in PM&M. Whether someone likes Prince after 1985, even if the song has some rap in it has no impact anyone who does not think the same. This is a key difference from political arguments.

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Reply #427 posted 01/08/22 7:31pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Funny, how one phone call from your sister saying she has to have cancer surgery makes you realize none of this internet shit matters and how meaningless it is. I hope those on here who believe in a higher power might say a prayer for her because I do believe in prayer and positive energy. I hope and pray she survives and I can see her again. That is what matters in life. And that is all that matters. confused


Done. pray

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Reply #428 posted 01/08/22 7:36pm

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PennyPurple said:

Graycap23 said:

Yet , they were banned.

I'll let u figure out why.

Let me fill you in on why they were banned, because by your comments you don't have a damn clue.

They were banned because a mod decided to post his opinion on a topic thread that he started, and they disagreed with his opinion, so since he was power hungry and went unchecked for so long, he banned them. For no good reason. Said Mod is no longer a mod or a member of this forum, partly because of this.


They did not break any rules, they should be unbanned.


Bullshit. Poppys, Diminutive & Cborg were some of the most toxic people ever to post on the org.

I have plenty of screenshots of them breaking rules.

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Reply #429 posted 01/08/22 11:49pm

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PennyPurple said:

Let me fill you in on why they were banned, because by your comments you don't have a damn clue.

They were banned because a mod decided to post his opinion on a topic thread that he started, and they disagreed with his opinion, so since he was power hungry and went unchecked for so long, he banned them. For no good reason. Said Mod is no longer a mod or a member of this forum, partly because of this.


They did not break any rules, they should be unbanned.


Bullshit. Poppys, Diminutive & Cborg were some of the most toxic people ever to post on the org.

I have plenty of screenshots of them breaking rules.


People don't get banned for no reason. I'm quite sure if they wanted to come back they easily could with a different alias, alter whatever.

Btw dj, I don't know how you managed it but you caused my favourite orger herb4 to walk away?!?! Or perhaps more accurately, he was becoming tired of PM&M and decided he had enough. For me he will be forever remembered as the guy who managed to made regular tongue lashings of a certain Thread Brickwaller one of the most hilarious things ever.


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Reply #430 posted 01/09/22 1:35am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

One could also argue that voting for this or that political party is a personal choice and everyone's opinion is right.


Even if they voted for the Nazi Party (to take that argument to the extreme but logical conclusion)?
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Reply #431 posted 01/09/22 1:50am

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SoulAlive said:



kpowers said:




IanRG said:




We are all here because of our love of Prince



There are a lot of people here that are not Prince fans (but I am)




It's funny that so many of those 'Politics and Religion" folks never really posted in any other forum.You never see them in the 'Prince:Music and More' forum.A new SDE could be announced,and not a single word from them lol and now that their favorite forum is gone,you don't really see them at all anymore,lol.Just proves why they were really here in the first place,doesn't it? hmmm



To be honest, the music forums on here were nowhere near as good as some others on the internet. Too much of the Prince forum seemed to be less about “what bass was used in recording Sister” and more about “Which is your favorite pair of Prince shoelaces he would wear “ or “What pancake batter do you think he used “. The non Prince music section had some interesting threads, but like I said, there’s better out there

So for me personally, the P&R section was the most interesting to post in.... of course that was before it became a toxic wasteland of misinformation and nonsense ruled by self hating despot who could not tolerate dissent
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Reply #432 posted 01/09/22 6:51am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

djThunderfunk said:


Bullshit. Poppys, Diminutive & Cborg were some of the most toxic people ever to post on the org.

I have plenty of screenshots of them breaking rules.


People don't get banned for no reason. I'm quite sure if they wanted to come back they easily could with a different alias, alter whatever.

Btw dj, I don't know how you managed it but you caused my favourite orger herb4 to walk away?!?! Or perhaps more accurately, he was becoming tired of PM&M and decided he had enough. For me he will be forever remembered as the guy who managed to made regular tongue lashings of a certain Thread Brickwaller one of the most hilarious things ever.



I don't know how I can be blamed for herb4's choices. What exactly did I say to him that influenced HIS decision?

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Reply #433 posted 01/09/22 6:53am

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jjhunsecker said:

SantanaMaitreya said:
One could also argue that voting for this or that political party is a personal choice and everyone's opinion is right.
Even if they voted for the Nazi Party (to take that argument to the extreme but logical conclusion)?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that NOBODY has ever supported or promoted the "Nazi Party" on Prince.org.

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Reply #434 posted 01/09/22 7:43am

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jjhunsecker said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

One could also argue that voting for this or that political party is a personal choice and everyone's opinion is right.


Even if they voted for the Nazi Party (to take that argument to the extreme but logical conclusion)?

Shelves upon shelves of books have been written about how the Nazis came to power, so a thread on a forum isn't going to answer that question. Every idea becomes crazy when you take it to its extreme. I once read a short story about a man who wanted to try absolute laziness and found out that being lazy was such hard work that he decided that he was too lazy for it. wink
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Reply #435 posted 01/09/22 9:01am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

jjhunsecker said:



Even if they voted for the Nazi Party (to take that argument to the extreme but logical conclusion)?

Shelves upon shelves of books have been written about how the Nazis came to power, so a thread on a forum isn't going to answer that question. Every idea becomes crazy when you take it to its extreme. I once read a short story about a man who wanted to try absolute laziness and found out that being lazy was such hard work that he decided that he was too lazy for it. wink


I used voting for Nazis as just an extreme example to prove a point. Would voting for Nazis just be a “choice “ that should be respected? How about those in America that voted for openly segregationist candidates who explicitly stated that they were going to subjugate certain groups of people?

Or, are there instances where people’s voting “choices “ CAN and SHOULD be scrutinized and criticized? Maybe every opinion isn’t “right “
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Reply #436 posted 01/09/22 10:10am

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Yes and I used my little story to make a point that you can take any idea to its extreme. As Napoleon said: "From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a small step". You certainly raise an interesting point, such a shame that we don't have a forum to discuss those things anymore. sad
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Reply #437 posted 01/09/22 10:30am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

Yes and I used my little story to make a point that you can take any idea to its extreme. As Napoleon said: "From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a small step". You certainly raise an interesting point, such a shame that we don't have a forum to discuss those things anymore. sad
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True... and we know who to blame for turning that forum to shit and ultimately having it gone....our former moderator Sarah Jane !
I personally walked away from this site several weeks before it was finally shut down, since I got tired of the toxic environment that he allowed to flourish... but that’s just me
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Reply #438 posted 01/09/22 10:53am

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jj, you and 2Elijah were as strident as Only or DJ on the race essentialism issue--especially Elijah on the Obama ducking. I reminded you to read Toure Reed and you implied I want to live in ignorance.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #439 posted 01/09/22 11:03am

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2freaky4church1 said:

jj, you and 2Elijah were as strident as Only or DJ on the race essentialism issue--especially Elijah on the Obama ducking. I reminded you to read Toure Reed and you implied I want to live in ignorance.


Absurd. I gave my views as a Black man who grew up and lived in America for over a half century, and found it both ridiculous and enormously condescending that you, a White man (who probably knows few if any real live Black people) should tell me (or anybody) how we SHOULD think.

Just because you found a few colored commies that you agree with doesn’t mean that the rest of us have to fall in line like lemmings... I think for myself, thank you very much
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Reply #440 posted 01/09/22 11:35am

SoulAlive

It's disappointing to see that Herb4 is no longer here confused I enjoyed his posts.

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Reply #441 posted 01/09/22 11:35am

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2freaky4church1 said:

jj, you and 2Elijah were as strident as Only or DJ on the race essentialism issue--especially Elijah on the Obama ducking. I reminded you to read Toure Reed and you implied I want to live in ignorance.



Not me. I do not hold to any form of race essentialism. I actualy stood up aginst it. I called out many for theirs. And that is all I have to say about that. (I really think we all ought to not get too deep into the same kinds of conduct that was the reason why Ben shut down P&R.)

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Reply #442 posted 01/09/22 11:48am

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See what I'm talking about? Only, I'm talking about your clodish ignorance.

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Reply #443 posted 01/09/22 1:16pm

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DJ here is a message for you from my friend Cborg:

When Militant aka CaseyRain banned a member for nothing, other members were allowed to post messages for that member, without being banned, I expect the same treatment of not being banned by posting this message:



Cborg:

"i love how the guy who cant ever shut up about how pro freedom of speech and anti banning and censorship he is is arguing for bans and censorship. but hey; thats DJ: just as full of bullshit as he always has been.

also, i have very little interest in coming back to this slum of a site that became a MAGA circle jerk with an out of control authoritatian right wing mod banning everyone who got in the way of the rightwing propaganda orgy he was having with DJ and a bunch of friends who all were banned repeatedly for their behavior. especially DJs friend only, who has been banned numerous times under multiple names, including for lying and posting that i threatened to rape him in orgnotes. and especially DJs friend superfurryanimal who was banned repeatedly under various screen names. both were repeatedly let back in by oldfriendsforsale and luv4u under new names. and yet people like val were permanently banned and not let back for being married to phil.

this place is a pathetic toxic joke and a breeding ground for racism, homophobia, transphobia, and sexism. its no wonder prince threatened to sue the org. if i were him, i wouldnt have wanted my name on a sludgefuck site like this one thats run by a digital slumlord and completely the worst part of the fandom let run amuck.

i made some amazing lifelong friends, most of whom abandoned this toxic cesspool and purple embarrasment to its namesake years ago. i wish id left with them years ago when most of the mods resigned in protest to luv and OF4$ starting their destruction of the site back when. its pathetic ben took this many years to finally get off his lazy ass and doing something about it by taking OF4$'s mod power away. If he were smart or actually trying to fix the site, he'd also take it from luv. but... hes a digital slumlord whos only interest in the site is being able to say he's "the prince,org guy" on TV. so; this sites gonna continue to be a broken relic of it being a fun place to spend your night 20 something years ago. its just gonna continue to be a testament to bens and ego and the mods love of self-promotion and authoritarism.

but hey DJ: put your money where your giant mouth is. you never shut up for years about how against ban/censoring and how pro freedom of speech you are. prove it or shut up, hypocrite."

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Reply #444 posted 01/09/22 1:52pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

as strident as Only or DJ on the race essentialism issue


falloff lol lol lol

GTFOOHWTBSYSK booty!


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Reply #445 posted 01/09/22 2:04pm

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SoulAlive said:

It's disappointing to see that Herb4 is no longer here confused I enjoyed his posts.


But wasn't he just recently, though??

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Reply #446 posted 01/09/22 2:06pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

SoulAlive said:

It's disappointing to see that Herb4 is no longer here confused I enjoyed his posts.


But wasn't he just recently, though??

He closed his account the day after Christmas! Said he's had enough of this fuckery.

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Reply #447 posted 01/09/22 2:15pm

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PennyPurple said:

TrivialPursuit said:


But wasn't he just recently, though??

He closed his account the day after Christmas! Said he's had enough of this fuckery.

yup. which was odd as if P&R is gone then wouldn't anyone who did not like it (but lacked the will power to stay out: weird how some who say they hated it so much and are glad it is gone just did not take part) would be hopeful that the things would get better?

FYI there is a way to check to see if an account was deleted or if an account was banned.

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Reply #448 posted 01/09/22 2:18pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

He closed his account the day after Christmas! Said he's had enough of this fuckery.

yup. which was odd as if P&R is gone then wouldn't anyone who did not like it (but lacked the will power to stay out: weird how some who say they hated it so much and are glad it is gone just did not take part) would be hopeful that the things would get better?

FYI there is a way to check to see if an account was deleted or if an account was banned.

He wasn't banned, he quit. And who said it was over P&R? .... Nobody.

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Reply #449 posted 01/09/22 2:18pm

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PennyPurple said:

DJ here is a message for you from my friend Cborg:

When Militant aka CaseyRain banned a member for nothing, other members were allowed to post messages for that member, without being banned, I expect the same treatment of not being banned by posting this message:


Cborg: blahblah



You can post that nutcase's messages all you want. But since it's obvious he still hasn't found the right medication to help him with his issues I won't be responding to the blathering idiot. He should just stay in your guys little p&b circle jerk safespace where you can continue to indulge his strange fantasies about victimhood.

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