JoeyC said:

kpowers said:

Don't turn General Disscussion into P&R

And as for the OP, thanks Ben! BUT, knowing human nature, the bull shitters will try to start their BS on other org forums.

Well, if they do then the thread needs to be locked. That is if anyone can get a mod to pay attention.

djThunderfunk said:

PennyPurple said:

You know what, I'm sick and tired of you lying and saying you didn't call me and others bitches. I've read your shit for the past 2 fucking days. I gave the link to the damn thread and thpe report to the mod, that was just opened. You posted a screenshot of something other than the damn thread where you called all of us names. You have called people names for at least 2 fucking years. You act like your all innocent. You are a fucking joke.

Do you have screenshots this time, or should I dig out some more?


EDIT: FYI, for the past year and a half, I have barely posted on the org at all, much less in P&R. Very rarely, less in that entire time than I used to every week or two. Word.

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Who are you fucking trying to kid?

IanRG said:

djThunderfunk said:

There have been no gifs "that threaten violence".

Just like this fishslap emoji is in no way a threat of violence.

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I was personally threatened with violence to get me stop disagreeing with a poster here. This is a threat of violence by gif.

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You are correct: Inappropriate use of emojis is exactly the same - neither should be used to threaten violence to shut down conversation. Responses should address what was said, not attack the person.

No gifs or emojis used here and threatened violence, none have attacked your person, and clearly they have NOT shut down conversation.

Your claims are patently false and not based in reality. Stop trying to prevent others from expressing themselves in this safe, humorous, socially acceptable way.

PennyPurple said:

JoeyC said:

And as for the OP, thanks Ben! BUT, knowing human nature, the bull shitters will try to start their BS on other org forums.

Well, if they do then the thread needs to be locked. That is if anyone can get a mod to pay attention.

Why do you always want threads you don't like locked?

djThunderfunk said:

IanRG said:

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I was personally threatened with violence to get me stop disagreeing with a poster here. This is a threat of violence by gif.

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You are correct: Inappropriate use of emojis is exactly the same - neither should be used to threaten violence to shut down conversation. Responses should address what was said, not attack the person.

No gifs or emojis used here and threatened violence, none have attacked your person, and clearly they have NOT shut down conversation.

Your claims are patently false and not based in reality. Stop trying to prevent others from expressing themselves in this safe, humorous, socially acceptable way.

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Yawn - The conversation has been shutdown to just you get locked in loop because you want to pretend virtually slapping a person to shut them up is not virtually slapping a person to get them to shut up.

djThunderfunk said:

IanRG said:

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That you choose to want to believe that it is OK to virtually slap people here when they simply asked that we ALL be nicer because the issues with the Org are bigger than the issues with P&R does not make it so.

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I never restricted my call that we ALL can be nicer to each other to just one side of politics - I responded to Freaky about this. I never restricted it to just politics at all - there was no bias. I have seen and personally experienced your frequent attacks against people and so I know that your screen shots are selective and incomplete. The accusations against you are not false - I did not respond to anyone in that exchange because it is bringing up old arguments from P&R - It is not the only old argument from that dead forum that I did not respond to. I am not required to respond to every post made here.

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I preached to no one. All I said was we should all stop this and be nicer to each other across the whole of the org. There is no bias in we should ALL be nicer to each other.

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There is no reason for you assume that I don't like kpowers. I do not recall any prior exchanges with him. Why are you bringing your old hatreds and your old methods with you? All you are doing is showing why P&R was shut.

waste of both of our time.

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Exactly - P&R is dead along with all your attacks - Let it go.

TruthBomb said:

Ok so let me get this straight for 4 years when Trump was in office the org had endless garbage posts spewing hatred and non stop attacks to those that dared speak the TRUTH but as soon as the BRANDON ADMINISTRATION TURNS OUT TO BE A COMPLETE SHITSHOW then this is the time to turn off P&R??? I admire BEN for all he’s done to create this unique space but find it completely HYPOCRITICAL to have not done this 4 years ago.

Man, your posts were one of the biggest problems of P&R. Me personally, i have no problem with different points of view, but most of your posts were straight bullshit trolling. You never really offered anything of substance on P&R. AND, by the looks of the post I'm commenting on, you will not change.

England just lost the Ashes, by the way. I know many of you were waiting to hear from me on the outcome of the 3rd Test match, and that is the real reason you're still on this thread. It was a humiliating defeat.

RichardS said:

England just lost the Ashes, by the way. I know many of you were waiting to hear from me on the outcome of the 3rd Test match, and that is the real reason you're still on this thread. It was a humiliating defeat.

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But a stunning victory!!

IanRG said:

RichardS said:

England just lost the Ashes, by the way. I know many of you were waiting to hear from me on the outcome of the 3rd Test match, and that is the real reason you're still on this thread. It was a humiliating defeat.

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But a stunning victory!!

Indeed, can't have one without the other. A bit like you and DJ

PennyPurple said:

Who are you fucking trying to kid?

I'll take that as a "No", you can't back it up.

Clearly from the screenshots I provided, I have indeed called you names. As in those screenshots, I have done so in response to you calling me names. You've even called me names in this very thread. But so far, I haven't responded in kind this time.

And if you hadn't noticed I've barely posted the past year and a half, feel free to look through my history and be sure to compare May 2020-Now to any given 2 week period over the last couple decades.

[Edited 12/27/21 18:10pm]

IanRG said:

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Yawn - The conversation has been shutdown to just you get locked in loop because you want to pretend virtually slapping a person to shut them up is not virtually slapping a person to get them to shut up.

Keep trying to mischaracterize my position all you want, it's not working though.

In case you missed it all the other times: posting a gif of cher slapping nic cage in moonstruck does not equate to "virtually slapping" you.

What kind of damage did you sustain from that virtual slap anyway? Is your cheek virtually red? Does it virtually sting? Was it virtually embarassing? Did you put your virtual hand up to your virtual cheek and virtually say "ow!"?

djThunderfunk said:

IanRG said:

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Yawn - The conversation has been shutdown to just you get locked in loop because you want to pretend virtually slapping a person to shut them up is not virtually slapping a person to get them to shut up.

Keep trying to mischaracterize my position all you want, it's not working though.

In case you missed it all the other times: posting a gif of cher slapping nic cage in moonstruck does not equate to "virtually slapping" you.

What kind of damage did you sustain from that virtual slap anyway? Is your cheek virtually red? Does it virtually sting? Was it virtually embarassing? Did you put your virtual hand up to your virtual cheek and virtually say "ow!"?

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Yawn

RichardS said:

IanRG said:

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But a stunning victory!!

Indeed, can't have one without the other. A bit like you and DJ

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I am extremely willing to drop DJ's sillyness even in exchange for English win. " />

IanRG said:

djThunderfunk said:

Keep trying to mischaracterize my position all you want, it's not working though.

In case you missed it all the other times: posting a gif of cher slapping nic cage in moonstruck does not equate to "virtually slapping" you.

What kind of damage did you sustain from that virtual slap anyway? Is your cheek virtually red? Does it virtually sting? Was it virtually embarassing? Did you put your virtual hand up to your virtual cheek and virtually say "ow!"?

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Yawn

What did the virtual doctor say? Did she put a virtual bandaid on it?

IanRG said:

IanRG said:

I have seen and personally experienced your frequent attacks against people and so I know that your screen shots are selective and incomplete.

If you think my screenshots are selective and incomplete I would be happy to provide shots of the entire thread, but that will be a lot of work so you'll have to pay me for my time and apologize for making a false accusation when your claim is proven untrue.

[Edited 12/27/21 18:55pm]

djThunderfunk said:

IanRG said:

I have seen and personally experienced your frequent attacks against people and so I know that your screen shots are selective and incomplete.

If you think my screenshots are selective and incomplete I would be happy to provide shots of the entire thread, but that will be a lot of work so you'll have to pay me for my time and apologize for making a false accusation when your claim is proven untrue.

[Edited 12/27/21 18:55pm]

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I know your screenshots are selective and incomplete. Your attacks on people cover every thread you have ever posted in. Selecting one thread will not cut it. Asking for payment and an apology for something you know you cannot supply is just bluster.

kpowers said:

IanRG said:

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Incorrect.

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I said:

"And this is problem: Wilful blindness and preparedness to always blame the other side.

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It does not matter if it is the people from the left or right, fans or haters of Prince, likers of different eras of Prince, etc. etc. etc.

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Everyone, regardless of the forum, regardless of which side should consider that evey post represents the site to people that could become Prince fans."

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This was in direct reponse to what Freaky said and what you said to seek to make about the otherside of politics. Both your comments where in my reply to the pair of you. The timing is simply down to I am in Australia.

You are full of shit

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See, fact beat empty threats by gif every single time.

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This is why the place will be better if we are nicer to each other.

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Note: Not one single post of mine ever said anything but we can ALL be nicer to each other. However, it requires people trying, not just reverting to gifs and swearing at people.

IanRG said:

djThunderfunk said:

If you think my screenshots are selective and incomplete I would be happy to provide shots of the entire thread, but that will be a lot of work so you'll have to pay me for my time and apologize for making a false accusation when your claim is proven untrue.

[Edited 12/27/21 18:55pm]

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I know your screenshots are selective and incomplete. Your attacks on people cover every thread you have ever posted in. Selecting one thread will not cut it. Asking for payment and an apology for something you know you cannot supply is just bluster.

As the accused, I should supply NOTHING, it's on the accuser to prove their claims. But I did. Including my own part. And it WAS the thread she cited. She even said almost the exact wording in a post I presented as she did in the report she shared as "proof".

Regardless, claiming it's not enough when you and she have provide NOTHING says it all.

IanRG said:

IanRG said:

djThunderfunk said:

There have been no gifs "that threaten violence".

Just like this fishslap emoji is in no way a threat of violence.

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I was personally threatened with violence to get me stop disagreeing with a poster here. This is a threat of violence by gif.

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You are correct: Inappropriate use of emojis is exactly the same - neither should be used to threaten violence to shut down conversation. Responses should address what was said, not attack the person.

Time for you to feel my full wrath as I unleash my minions upon you

Michael Myers, he might be slow but he gets the job done

If you think you are safe in the woods think again. I got my boy Jason

Think you are safe sleeping, I got Freddy.

Think you are safe in space??????

Darth Vader, he owes me a favor

I got spock with Vulcan neck pinch

I have the Queen of Evil, Cher

And my best warrior, Bob Barker

SantanaMaitreya said:

The real problem with P&R was what we see happening again here: arguing for the sake of arguing. Someone posts a funny picture and two pages later you guys are still talking about it. "I'm right!" "No, I'm right!"

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I understand what you are saying but this is not arguing for the sake of arguing. It is showing the problems in P&R are endemic to the whole site.

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The argument between PennyPurple and DJ goes back to his long history of personal attacks in P&R that predate the selective screen shots - This is why he screen shots parts of threads. Just as the argument between Freaky and kpowers goes back to their past in other forums. Just as there are long running battles between people in PM&M. These battles have been allowed with differing treatments where people who did not share the same views as some mods were removed for minor infringements, but others had to do much more for similar permanent removal. One such person was knowingly to all mods as being on his third new log in where the former ones where "permanently" banned when he targeted me through my place of work and family. I had my one and only temporary ban because I forced the hands of the mods to do something about this when they were happy to just let him attack me here and in the real world.

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What you call a funny picture was cyberbullying and would be called and treated as this in many other sites. It followed a deliberate provocation of another person where kpowers made it clear that he was doing that to provoke that person.

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The issues here are known world wide were Prince.Org is known as an aggressive site to participants outside the various inner circles in each of its forums. It is known as one of the most highly critical fan sites against the person the site is supposed to be a fan site for.

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All I have asked for here is that we seek to change this and be nicer to each other and this is the response.

kpowers said:

IanRG said:

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I was personally threatened with violence to get me stop disagreeing with a poster here. This is a threat of violence by gif.

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You are correct: Inappropriate use of emojis is exactly the same - neither should be used to threaten violence to shut down conversation. Responses should address what was said, not attack the person.

Time for you to feel my full wrath as I unleash my minions upon you

Michael Myers, he might be slow but he gets the job done

If you think you are safe in the woods think again. I got my boy Jason

Think you are safe sleeping, I got Freddy.

Think you are safe in space??????

Darth Vader, he owes me a favor

I got spock with Vulcan neck pinch

I have the Queen of Evil, Cher

And my best warrior, Bob Barker

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As I said the problems with P&R are not just limited to P&R. They are a site wide problem.

kpowers said:

IanRG said:

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I was personally threatened with violence to get me stop disagreeing with a poster here. This is a threat of violence by gif.

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You are correct: Inappropriate use of emojis is exactly the same - neither should be used to threaten violence to shut down conversation. Responses should address what was said, not attack the person.

Time for you to feel my full wrath as I unleash my minions upon you

Michael Myers, he might be slow but he gets the job done

If you think you are safe in the woods think again. I got my boy Jason

Think you are safe sleeping, I got Freddy.

Think you are safe in space??????

Darth Vader, he owes me a favor

I got spock with Vulcan neck pinch

I have the Queen of Evil, Cher

And my best warrior, Bob Barker

SantanaMaitreya said:

The real problem with P&R was what we see happening again here: arguing for the sake of arguing. Someone posts a funny picture and two pages later you guys are still talking about it. "I'm right!" "No, I'm right!"

Mostly I would agree. But, I do take false allegations seriously.

kpowers said:

IanRG said:

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I was personally threatened with violence to get me stop disagreeing with a poster here. This is a threat of violence by gif.

.

You are correct: Inappropriate use of emojis is exactly the same - neither should be used to threaten violence to shut down conversation. Responses should address what was said, not attack the person.

Time for you to feel my full wrath as I unleash my minions upon you

Michael Myers, he might be slow but he gets the job done

If you think you are safe in the woods think again. I got my boy Jason

Think you are safe sleeping, I got Freddy.

Think you are safe in space??????

Darth Vader, he owes me a favor

I got spock with Vulcan neck pinch

I have the Queen of Evil, Cher

And my best warrior, Bob Barker

IanRG said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

The real problem with P&R was what we see happening again here: arguing for the sake of arguing. Someone posts a funny picture and two pages later you guys are still talking about it. "I'm right!" "No, I'm right!"

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I understand what you are saying but this is not arguing for the sake of arguing. It is showing the problems in P&R are endemic to the whole site.

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The argument between PennyPurple and DJ goes back to his long history of personal attacks in P&R that predate the selective screen shots - This is why he screen shots parts of threads. Just as the argument between Freaky and kpowers goes back to their past in other forums. Just as there are long running battles between people in PM&M. These battles have been allowed with differing treatments where people who did not share the same views as some mods were removed for minor infringements, but others had to do much more for similar permanent removal. One such person was knowingly to all mods as being on his third new log in where the former ones where "permanently" banned when he targeted me through my place of work and family. I had my one and only temporary ban because I forced the hands of the mods to do something about this when they were happy to just let him attack me here and in the real world.

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What you call a funny picture was cyberbullying and would be called and treated as this in many other sites. It followed a deliberate provocation of another person where kpowers made it clear that he was doing that to provoke that person.

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The issues here are known world wide were Prince.Org is known as an aggressive site to participants outside the various inner circles in each of its forums. It is known as one of the most highly critical fan sites against the person the site is supposed to be a fan site for.

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All I have asked for here is that we seek to change this and be nicer to each other and this is the response.

Although the site could be "nicer", no one wants it nerfed to the point that memes. gifs & emojis are considered violence or threats instead of the humorous and harmless forms of expression the rest of us recognize them to be.

djThunderfunk said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

The real problem with P&R was what we see happening again here: arguing for the sake of arguing. Someone posts a funny picture and two pages later you guys are still talking about it. "I'm right!" "No, I'm right!"

Mostly I would agree. But, I do take false allegations seriously.

I think people are generally better off if they don't take anything directed at them by an anonymous poster on the internet that seriously - be it name-calling, false allegations etc. For your own sake, not for theirs.