I'm looking at all the money Sam Presti is spending, and I'm saying to myself, why didn't he do this for James Harden? Am I missing something here?

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm looking at all the money Sam Presti is spending, and I'm saying to myself, why didn't he do this for James Harden? Am I missing something here?

Nope. Presti -- and more importantly, the owner -- is learning from his mistakes.

He didn't realize he was "fighting the last war" when he decided to keep Ibaka over Harden. He was focused on getting past the Spurs. Admittedly, no one saw what was coming in GS at that time.

namepeace said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm looking at all the money Sam Presti is spending, and I'm saying to myself, why didn't he do this for James Harden? Am I missing something here?

Nope. Presti -- and more importantly, the owner -- is learning from his mistakes.

He didn't realize he was "fighting the last war" when he decided to keep Ibaka over Harden. He was focused on getting past the Spurs. Admittedly, no one saw what was coming in GS at that time.

He had a potential dynasty in the making and fucked it up. He's not going to the finals with his current group, that's for sure.

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm looking at all the money Sam Presti is spending, and I'm saying to myself, why didn't he do this for James Harden? Am I missing something here?

He made a bone head decision keeping Ibaka over Harden, the majority of these front office cats always outsmart themselves

uPtoWnNY said:

Dwight Howard is heading to the Wizards after he clears waivers. He replaces Gortat, who they traded to the Clippers for Austin Rivers.

According to some of the NBA media Howard wanted to go to the Warriors but they didn't want him

Been watching some of the summer league games, I don't remember Jaren Jackson Jr. shooting the three this good at Michigan St. last season, who else is watching here?

uPtoWnNY said:

Paul George resigns with OKC.....4 years/ $137mil. Wow, didn't see that coming. Huge blow to Magic and the Lakers.

I guess we can add Paul George to the list of stars who don't wanna play with Lebron, why else would he go back to OKC???

Abdul said:

Thunder to buy out or trade Carmelo Anthony, LOL. Who'd want him? He's a black hole on offense, doesn't play 'D', doesn't make his teammates better, and isn't a leader.....overrated 'superstar'.

http://www.espn.com/nba/s...-part-ways

uPtoWnNY said:

Thunder to buy out or trade Carmelo Anthony, LOL. Who'd want him? He's a black hole on offense, doesn't play 'D', doesn't make his teammates better, and isn't a leader.....overrated 'superstar'.

http://www.espn.com/nba/s...-part-ways

Probably ends up in L.A.

Graycap23 said:

Abdul said:

I guess we can add Paul George to the list of stars who don't wanna play with Lebron, why else would he go back to OKC???

Would u really want to play with lestat? When u win, he gets all of the credit. When u lose, its all your fault. The teams run zero offense, just stand around and wait to see what lestat does.

As in Lestat the Vampire?

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Thunder to buy out or trade Carmelo Anthony, LOL. Who'd want him? He's a black hole on offense, doesn't play 'D', doesn't make his teammates better, and isn't a leader.....overrated 'superstar'.

http://www.espn.com/nba/s...-part-ways

Probably ends up in L.A.

I hope not. He's a ball stopper and a defensive liability. Great scorer but his game is anachronistic.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Abdul said: Would u really want to play with lestat? When u win, he gets all of the credit. When u lose, its all your fault. The teams run zero offense, just stand around and wait to see what lestat does.

As in Lestat the Vampire?

Lestat as in lebron the stat padder.......and talent blood sucker. He sucks the life out of his teammates.

His act can only go 4 years max before his teammates want out. Just wait a few years.....all of this will come out. Current players and the media don't want 2 talk about it........

After 17 years with San Antonio, Tony Parker signed a 2 year, $10mil contract with Charlotte.

Graycap23 said:

Lestat as in lebron the stat padder.......and talent blood sucker. He sucks the life out of his teammates.

His act can only go 4 years max before his teammates want out. Just wait a few years.....all of this will come out. Current players and the media don't want 2 talk about it........

Damn, tell us how u really feel Gray!!!

Abdul said:

Been watching some of the summer league games, I don't remember Jaren Jackson Jr. shooting the three this good at Michigan St. last season, who else is watching here?

I'm currently watching Summer Leagure on ESPN and ESPN2. Its gonna be interesting to see how Trae Young does playing for the Atlanta Hawks. I read that he like got a bird phobia......some people were joking on twitter that is the reason why he isn't playing well.....them birds

Goddess4Real said:

Abdul said:

Graycap23 said:

Lestat as in lebron the stat padder.......and talent blood sucker. He sucks the life out of his teammates.

His act can only go 4 years max before his teammates want out. Just wait a few years.....all of this will come out. Current players and the media don't want 2 talk about it........

Damn, tell us how u really feel Gray!!!

If he was fair-minded, he'd give Durant the same crap he gives Lebron James. Durant was up 3-1 against a team that won 73 games, choked the series away, then joins them the following year. That would be like Isiah Thomas going to Boston after "The Steal" in '87, or Jordan joining Detroit after the crushing playoff loss in '90. Straight-up bitch move, but Graycap always overlooks that to take shots at Lebron. Being a Knicks fan, I could care less about Lebron - just be fair.

uPtoWnNY said:

Goddess4Real said:

I'm currently watching Summer Leagure on ESPN and ESPN2. Its gonna be interesting to see how Trae Young does playing for the Atlanta Hawks. I read that he like got a bird phobia......some people were joking on twitter that is the reason why he isn't playing well.....them birds

Trae is struggling so far, that Steph Curry style ain't as easy as it looks, Trae is finding out the hard way so far.

I wonder is it any truth to the rumor that Kwahi wants to be a Clipper and not a Laker now, this situation is a mess!

Abdul said:

Goddess4Real said:

I'm currently watching Summer Leagure on ESPN and ESPN2. Its gonna be interesting to see how Trae Young does playing for the Atlanta Hawks. I read that he like got a bird phobia......some people were joking on twitter that is the reason why he isn't playing well.....them birds

Trae is struggling so far, that Steph Curry style ain't as easy as it looks, Trae is finding out the hard way so far.

Trae Young lacks size, length & explosiveness for an NBA point guard. It's only summer league, but I think he'll have a hard time in the pros.

Anyone surprised the Bulls matched Sacramento's 4 year, $78mil offer to LaVine?

uPtoWnNY said:

Abdul said:

Trae is struggling so far, that Steph Curry style ain't as easy as it looks, Trae is finding out the hard way so far.

Trae Young lacks size, length & explosiveness for an NBA point guard. It's only summer league, but I think he'll have a hard time in the pros.

Anyone surprised the Bulls matched Sacramento's 4 year, $78mil offer to LaVine?

I don't think Trae will be the second coming of Steph Curry.....however, I do believe in the long term he will be OK. If he concentrates more on facilitating (he is exceptional passer), running the Pick and Roll and develop a better shot selection, the pro game will come a lot easier. At the moment from the games I have watched, its just not there yet, and a quad injury he got during the Portland game didn't help. But, he does have potential to be something special.

Nope, Lavine is a good player. The Bulls line-up does look promising for this season, providing they have chemistry and stay healthy.

Brook Lopez to the Bucks: https://sports.yahoo.com/source-bucks-a ... 11877.html

Zaza Pachulia to the Pistons: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-zaza-p ... 53865.html

uPtoWnNY said:

Brook Lopez to the Bucks: https://sports.yahoo.com/...11877.html

Zaza Pachulia to the Pistons: https://sports.yahoo.com/...53865.html

I liked Lopez in LA and would have taken him over McGee 9 times out of 10.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

As in Lestat the Vampire?

Lestat as in lebron the stat padder.......and talent blood sucker. He sucks the life out of his teammates.

His act can only go 4 years max before his teammates want out. Just wait a few years.....all of this will come out. Current players and the media don't want 2 talk about it........

Hell, that's most NBA superstars in the modern era. That's most title-winning teams in the modern era. Most dynasties don't last that long due to egos.

You think the likes of Kobe and Jordan were a joy to play with?

LeBron is arguably the most scrutinized athlete in American sports, but you say he's is not getting enough critical coverage? Okay.

Let's set aside The Decision, the critiques of his passive aggressiveness, and his moves as a virtual GM, which have been covered ad nauseam.

The media didn't talk about Jordan behind the scenes that much either and many segments of the media buys Kobe's alleged winning-above-all-else mentality despite loads of evidence to the contrary. The greatest are often the hardest to play with.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Lestat as in lebron the stat padder.......and talent blood sucker. He sucks the life out of his teammates.

His act can only go 4 years max before his teammates want out. Just wait a few years.....all of this will come out. Current players and the media don't want 2 talk about it........

Hell, that's most NBA superstars in the modern era. That's most title-winning teams in the modern era. Most dynasties don't last that long due to egos.

You think the likes of Kobe and Jordan were a joy to play with?

LeBron is arguably the most scrutinized athlete in American sports, but you say he's is not getting enough critical coverage? Okay.

Let's set aside The Decision, the critiques of his passive aggressiveness, and his moves as a virtual GM, which have been covered ad nauseam.

The media didn't talk about Jordan behind the scenes that much either and many segments of the media buys Kobe's alleged winning-above-all-else mentality despite loads of evidence to the contrary. The greatest are often the hardest to play with.

Jordan got the best out of his teammates..........Lebron crushed his teammates into game bystanders. Not the same.

namepeace said:

You think the likes of Kobe and Jordan were a joy to play with?

Both were pricks.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

Hell, that's most NBA superstars in the modern era. That's most title-winning teams in the modern era. Most dynasties don't last that long due to egos.

You think the likes of Kobe and Jordan were a joy to play with?

LeBron is arguably the most scrutinized athlete in American sports, but you say he's is not getting enough critical coverage? Okay.

Let's set aside The Decision, the critiques of his passive aggressiveness, and his moves as a virtual GM, which have been covered ad nauseam.

The media didn't talk about Jordan behind the scenes that much either and many segments of the media buys Kobe's alleged winning-above-all-else mentality despite loads of evidence to the contrary. The greatest are often the hardest to play with.

Jordan got the best out of his teammates..........Lebron crushed his teammates into game bystanders. Not the same.

That's a matter of subjective opinion, which is fine. But it's not borne out by the facts. In 2017-2018, LeBron was second in the league in assists, while being in the top 3 in assists percentage.

He was in the top 10 in assists 3 of his 4 seasons with Cavs 2.0.

So I'll see your subjective opinion and raise you one -- Jordan was surrounded by better talent, and more consistent shooters. THAT's the real difference.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Jordan got the best out of his teammates..........Lebron crushed his teammates into game bystanders. Not the same.

That's a matter of subjective opinion, which is fine. But it's not borne out by the facts. In 2017-2018, LeBron was second in the league in assists, while being in the top 3 in assists percentage.

He was in the top 10 in assists 3 of his 4 seasons with Cavs 2.0.

So I'll see your subjective opinion and raise you one -- Jordan was surrounded by better talent, and more consistent shooters. THAT's the real difference.

Lol.........Go talk to Jordan's ex-teammates.............then go talk to Lebrons.

Get back 2 me......

Lebron has 4-8 HOF / Allstar level teammates.

How many does does have? 2

Wade, Bosh, Allen, Irving, Love, IT.............better than all of Joradn;s teammates not named Pippen & Rodman.

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