mjscarousal said:

Its hard for me to take some of these lists seriously.... some of yall have Whitney, Bill Withers, MJ on the list but no mention of Beyonce, Bieber, Perry or Drake??? Silly lists.

I mentioned all of those except Drake, mainly as I have never heard any of drake's material.

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I would never mention Michael Jackson, as he is my favourite artist after Prince. Anyone who would needs their head read, MJ is incredible, he is a legend. Whitney is great too and I like the few Bill Withers songs I have heard. Don't worry man, plenty of us here know who is hot and who is not!

Adorecream said:

mjscarousal said:

Its hard for me to take some of these lists seriously.... some of yall have Whitney, Bill Withers, MJ on the list but no mention of Beyonce, Bieber, Perry or Drake??? Silly lists.

I mentioned all of those except Drake, mainly as I have never heard any of drake's material.

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I would never mention Michael Jackson, as he is my favourite artist after Prince. Anyone who would needs their head read, MJ is incredible, he is a legend. Whitney is great too and I like the few Bill Withers songs I have heard. Don't worry man, plenty of us here know who is hot and who is not!

Im a girl lol, but yes I know you have great taste

mjscarousal said:

How is Bill Withers even in contention for being one of the most overrated acts of the 1970's?

The Jackson 5 and tHe jacksons as famous as they were in the 70's were at the same time quite underrated, just listen to their best album Destiny, that album is one of the best albums in Michael Jackson's carreer. Listen those beautiful ballads in the album, please go and listen and tell me...

214 said:

The Jackson 5 and tHe jacksons as famous as they were in the 70's were at the same time quite underrated, just listen to their best album Destiny, that album is one of the best albums in Michael Jackson's carreer. Listen those beautiful ballads in the album, please go and listen and tell me...

AGREE. The Jacksons disography is extremely underrated. Triumph and Destiny are R&B classics. I personally think Triumph is their best but I love all of their albums actually.

MotownSubdivision said:

How is Bill Withers even in contention for being one of the most overrated acts of the 1970's?

Good question lol because I find Bill Withers to be an underrated legend and songwriter.

EmmaMcG said:

mjscarousal said:

Its hard for me to take some of these lists seriously.... some of yall have Whitney, Bill Withers, MJ on the list but no mention of Beyonce, Bieber, Perry or Drake??? Silly lists.

I actually think a lot of people tend to underrate Michael Jackson because he was so famous so they tend to see him as more of a celebrity than anything else. But if you set that side of him apart and just look at his music and performances, the man was a one off.

I agree. Michael is actually very underrated in some ways. For example, he is underrated as a songwriter and wrote most of his music and hits himself. He is also underrated as a singer. His creativity as a dancer and entertainer tends to over shadow his other talents. Very gifted man and one of a kind for sure! I can talk for days about how amazing he is

mjscarousal said:

214 said:

The Jackson 5 and tHe jacksons as famous as they were in the 70's were at the same time quite underrated, just listen to their best album Destiny, that album is one of the best albums in Michael Jackson's carreer. Listen those beautiful ballads in the album, please go and listen and tell me...

AGREE. The Jacksons disography is extremely underrated. Triumph and Destiny are R&B classics. I personally think Triumph is their best but I love all of their albums actually.

For me Destiny is much better than Triumph. just the ballads alone outshine everything in Triumph.

MotownSubdivision said:

How is Bill Withers even in contention for being one of the most overrated acts of the 1970's?

that's crazy,huh? Bill Withers is an extremely talented artist/songwriter/singer.He wasn't overrated at all.I think he deserved much more attention/recognition than he received.

He was talented, his songs just put me to sleep. I do have a bias towards female singers, not really into men-loving-women songs unless they are by Prince, Stevie, Sam Cooke, Louis Armstrong, Luther Vandross or Nat King Cole (may be forgetting a couple but not many).

Hudson said:

nonames said:

The top three most overrated acts of all time, in no particular order: Elvis, Queen and Michael Jackson.

WHY

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

nonames said:

mjscarousal said:

Its hard for me to take some of these lists seriously.... some of yall have Whitney, Bill Withers, MJ on the list but no mention of Beyonce, Bieber, Perry or Drake??? Silly lists.

Well, it depends on what you understand for 'overrated'. I don't think Bieber or Perry are widely regarded as 'great artists'. They may be very successful right now but apart from teenage girls no one would include them on any lists of 'best artists ever'. In that sense you could say Beyoncé is overrated, as she is a lot more 'respected' than the other two that you mention (I'm avoiding Drake as I really know nothing about him). That's why I find Michael Jackson the most overrated artist. If you ask people in the street who the best five artists of all time are, probably half or more of them wil say Jackson and, in my opinion, that's just not the case. Thriller and Off the Wall are amazing albums, but he could have never made Parade.

What do you mean in a sense? The girl is overrated as hell. Thats not even debatable. She has more grammys than MJ AND Prince as well as a number of undeserving accolades. If anybody is the most overrated "artist" its definitly her. I find it comical that this site finds any illogical reason to hate on MJ even when there is no rational to support it.

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Edit: Cause I dont want the Prince fans to go nuts but their hate against Michael is so elementary and tired.

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mjscarousal said:

mjscarousal said:

Its hard for me to take some of these lists seriously.... some of yall have Whitney, Bill Withers, MJ on the list but no mention of Beyonce, Bieber, Perry or Drake??? Silly lists.

Well they're from different decades doncha know? There are significantly worse very popular artists today than Beysus, Bieber and Katy. They have a few decent tracks after all.

In your opinion Prince is more talented than him but I respectfully disagree and IMO Michael was way more talented in certain areas than Prince. They were two different styles of artists, why even compare? Don't even know why you compared Stevie or Marvin as well.

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mjscarousal said:

mjscarousal said:

Edit: Cause I dont want the Prince fans to go nuts but their hate against Michael is so elementary and tired.

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Chill out! This is a thread asking people's opinions - which will never all be entirely the same. I'm shocked people have said Queen but I'm not going to argue - it's their opinion. That's all. Nothing to take personally.

Okay....I'm going to say (in no particular order):

The Beatles

Led Zepplin

Stock, Aitkin & Waterman (okay not a group but everything put out by them was overrated IMO).

Iron Maiden

The Spice Girls

Celine Dion (though I do like her cover of river deep, mountain high)

Adele

MotownSubdivision said:

Hudson said:

He was talented, his songs just put me to sleep. I do have a bias towards female singers, not really into men-loving-women songs unless they are by Prince, Stevie, Sam Cooke, Louis Armstrong, Luther Vandross or Nat King Cole (may be forgetting a couple but not many).

He's only known for 2-3 songs though. He's hardly overrated considering those songs are bigger than he is himself.

One of my favourites, is "Just the two of us", it's credited to Grover Washington Jr., but its Bill on the vocals and wow those vocals give me chills and definitely would not put anyone to sleep. Will Smith's version maybe, but not Bill and Grover.

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Thinking about it too, some overrated acts are all these goth alternative acts like the following (Waiting for the hatalanche) I like some of their songs, but they are gardly revolutionary and ground breaking. I think people just like them as they are 'different' and not really into commercial chart music (Not a bad thing at the end of the day).

. Tori Amos (I get it, as a gay man I am supposed to like her, okay I loved Crucify, but the rest is wtf?)

. The Cure (Just don't get it), Inbetween days is okay I guess, but the rest?

. Depeche Mode - another group I don't get.

. PJ Harvey - don't get it

. Fiona Apple - don't get it

. The Cult - snnooorrreeee!!!!

. The Smiths/ Morrisey - Overrated pablum that the music journos - particuylarly British worship at the altar of, okay the lead singer is gay and depressing, how about a lead singer who is gay and positive, but not a screaming queen too?

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Over and out, my two cents.

maplenpg said:

mjscarousal said:

Edit: Cause I dont want the Prince fans to go nuts but their hate against Michael is so elementary and tired.

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Chill out! This is a thread asking people's opinions - which will never all be entirely the same. I'm shocked people have said Queen but I'm not going to argue - it's their opinion. That's all. Nothing to take personally.

Okay....I'm going to say (in no particular order):

The Beatles

Led Zepplin

Stock, Aitkin & Waterman (okay not a group but everything put out by them was overrated IMO).

Iron Maiden

The Spice Girls

Celine Dion (though I do like her cover of river deep, mountain high)

Adele

Lol I am not taking it personally. I just don't "get" how you can find Michael Jackson, Bill Withers and Queen more overrated than Beyonce, and a couple others. I am entitled to that opinion as well. I think its comical actually To me it just seems people are pointing out acts they don't like versus acts they find overrated. There are some acts that I don't care for but I know in the bigger scheme of things they are not overrated as far as their contributions to music.

nonames said:

mjscarousal said:

In your opinion Prince is more talented than him but I respectfully disagree and IMO Michael was way more talented in certain areas than Prince. They were two different styles of artists, why even compare? Don't even know why you compared Stevie or Marvin as well.

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I gave you a number of artist which I consider more talented than Michael Jackson but are not as popular to justify why I believe he is the most overrated artist ever. It is quite a linear argument: I expressed an opinion and justified it with examples. You respectfully disagree and that's fine, but that doesn't make my reasoning comical or illogical, and it doesn't show that I hate Michael Jackson.

MJ could never make a track like Batdance but that's not why people praise him: it's because he's the greatest entertainer of all time and also the most unique. Key-word: entertainer.

And, BTW, you're a typical Prince fan in the sense you're jealous MJ became way more notorious than him.

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ML2016 said:

nonames said: