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Reply #30 posted 01/07/16 7:10pm

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Derek1984 said:

No bonus material for OTW. No songs like Goin' To Rio, Iowa, In the Life of Chico, etc. These demos have got to be somewhere. Does the estate even have them? The least they could've done is include some early mixes.. Questlove has said the early mixes sound so different, much more disco-esque. Even more recently some of these have leaked in various versions. Just another poor release by the estate IMO. And the Spike Lee documentary I'm sure is a respectable effort, but what do I care what someone like Kobe Bryant has to say about the album LOL.

Well,,, fine. I'm just lookig forward to the Spike Doc.

At this point I'm wondering more where all The Jacksons 76-84 outtakes/unreleasd are. I'll guess it's Randy holding this stuff up.

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Reply #31 posted 01/08/16 4:43pm

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Marrk said:

Derek1984 said:

No bonus material for OTW. No songs like Goin' To Rio, Iowa, In the Life of Chico, etc. These demos have got to be somewhere. Does the estate even have them? The least they could've done is include some early mixes.. Questlove has said the early mixes sound so different, much more disco-esque. Even more recently some of these have leaked in various versions. Just another poor release by the estate IMO. And the Spike Lee documentary I'm sure is a respectable effort, but what do I care what someone like Kobe Bryant has to say about the album LOL.

Well,,, fine. I'm just lookig forward to the Spike Doc.

At this point I'm wondering more where all The Jacksons 76-84 outtakes/unreleasd are. I'll guess it's Randy holding this stuff up.

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Actually the Randy thing might be a valid point. Based on some stuff I've been reading on other boards, the Estate is at odds with Quincy Jones and Randy Jackson might be holding on to a lot of stuff. The deal with $ony and Estate is up 2017, it probably gets re-upped though.

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Reply #32 posted 01/08/16 10:08pm

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For once, I can honestly say I don't blame him for hanging onto that footage. It's precious, sacred and a documentation of precious family times when things were so much more innocent, at least publicly and with their newfound musical freedom at the time . He doesn't want anybody, especially the estate to exploit the jacksons brand and appropriate it like it's already being done. I was dying for a proper bad tour to be released for years, and you know what? It happened and it was not earth shattering to me. I couldn't enjoy it the same way anymore cause no way that would have been released if he was alive, it was a sour reminder though a well put together show. It would be upsetting if that amazing triumph tour came out and was not edited well, leaving out the best scenes or something. I would still love to see it cause I wasn't born but I understand why it's locked away
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Reply #33 posted 01/09/16 3:07am

Adorecream

Changing the subject, who is looking forward to Dangerous25?

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AND some fool on MJJ is already mentioning a BAD30 album for 2017! They don't muck around the MJ fans, almost like us Prince fans. One guy is also planning to make a 7 disc set of MJ bootlegs called Michael Jackson bonus cuts (One for each album from off the wall to Invincible and post Invincible). Sounds like they think like Prince fans.

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Then again I am sure some of those people at MJJ community are big Prince fans too biggrin

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #34 posted 01/09/16 4:20am

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alphastreet said:

For once, I can honestly say I don't blame him for hanging onto that footage. It's precious, sacred and a documentation of precious family times when things were so much more innocent, at least publicly and with their newfound musical freedom at the time . He doesn't want anybody, especially the estate to exploit the jacksons brand and appropriate it like it's already being done. I was dying for a proper bad tour to be released for years, and you know what? It happened and it was not earth shattering to me. I couldn't enjoy it the same way anymore cause no way that would have been released if he was alive, it was a sour reminder though a well put together show. It would be upsetting if that amazing triumph tour came out and was not edited well, leaving out the best scenes or something. I would still love to see it cause I wasn't born but I understand why it's locked away

you are 1505% right, this is EXACTLY why this footage will not be released to the public, it's the very last piece of as true a memory what the mission of their music and their performances were all about.....I was just waiting for someone to point it out

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Reply #35 posted 01/09/16 6:55am

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Scorp said:



alphastreet said:


For once, I can honestly say I don't blame him for hanging onto that footage. It's precious, sacred and a documentation of precious family times when things were so much more innocent, at least publicly and with their newfound musical freedom at the time . He doesn't want anybody, especially the estate to exploit the jacksons brand and appropriate it like it's already being done. I was dying for a proper bad tour to be released for years, and you know what? It happened and it was not earth shattering to me. I couldn't enjoy it the same way anymore cause no way that would have been released if he was alive, it was a sour reminder though a well put together show. It would be upsetting if that amazing triumph tour came out and was not edited well, leaving out the best scenes or something. I would still love to see it cause I wasn't born but I understand why it's locked away




you are 1505% right, this is EXACTLY why this footage will not be released to the public, it's the very last piece of as true a memory what the mission of their music and their performances were all about.....I was just waiting for someone to point it out



I honestly can't enjoy posthumous mj products with the same level of excitement. Mj was already cool to me, it should have never taken his death to celebrate him. I would rather cherish memories of childhood and coming of age high school and college years of jamming to Jackson 5 and jacksons from the jacksons American dreams, greatest his and rereleases on cd and what that music meant to me than trying to recreate the same hype again. Some things are better left to the imagination and the triumph concert Jacksons live cd is fine with me. Having said that, you're so lucky you went to that show, I was blessed to have seen them on their casino tour few years ago and immensely missed Michael, but knew I would have regretted it if I held onto the hurt and anger of all the contradictions in the media. None of that shit spoke to their music in my life, and shouldn't in the first place. It was celebrating them keeping it together and fans keeping it together and it was beautiful.
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Reply #36 posted 01/09/16 11:31am

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Yea they could have included some bonus songs for the Off the Wall reissue. Maybe the songs exist in demo form and aren't of releasable quality audio wise? or they are keeping them for another post humous release like Escape and Michael.
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Reply #37 posted 01/10/16 5:04am

Scorp

Oooooooooooohhhhh

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Reply #38 posted 01/10/16 8:12pm

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Adorecream said:

Changing the subject, who is looking forward to Dangerous25?


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AND some fool on MJJ is already mentioning a BAD30 album for 2017! They don't muck around the MJ fans, almost like us Prince fans. One guy is also planning to make a 7 disc set of MJ bootlegs called Michael Jackson bonus cuts (One for each album from off the wall to Invincible and post Invincible). Sounds like they think like Prince fans.


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Then again I am sure some of those people at MJJ community are big Prince fans too biggrin


I'm looking forward to Dangerous25 .Wonder which outtakes they will put on it? I really hope "If u don't love me" isn't on there
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Reply #39 posted 01/11/16 4:56pm

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I can't wait for that Off the Wall Documentary!

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Reply #40 posted 01/11/16 6:38pm

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breakdown2k14 said:

Adorecream said:

Changing the subject, who is looking forward to Dangerous25?

.

AND some fool on MJJ is already mentioning a BAD30 album for 2017! They don't muck around the MJ fans, almost like us Prince fans. One guy is also planning to make a 7 disc set of MJ bootlegs called Michael Jackson bonus cuts (One for each album from off the wall to Invincible and post Invincible). Sounds like they think like Prince fans.

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Then again I am sure some of those people at MJJ community are big Prince fans too biggrin

I'm looking forward to Dangerous25 .Wonder which outtakes they will put on it? I really hope "If u don't love me" isn't on there

Men In Black. It's already been registered. The good thing about Dangerous, Bryan Loren is the producer with the most unreleased stuff and he's already turned it over the the Estate. There's also a song with LL Cool J (not Serious Effect) that's unreleased. There shouldn't be a shortage of material for Dangerous. I expect a double disc release.

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Reply #41 posted 01/11/16 6:41pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0YnWOrFfs

^ I don't know what that is but it's too strong to be nothing.

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Reply #42 posted 01/11/16 9:23pm

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breakdown2k14 said:

Adorecream said:

Changing the subject, who is looking forward to Dangerous25?

.

AND some fool on MJJ is already mentioning a BAD30 album for 2017! They don't muck around the MJ fans, almost like us Prince fans. One guy is also planning to make a 7 disc set of MJ bootlegs called Michael Jackson bonus cuts (One for each album from off the wall to Invincible and post Invincible). Sounds like they think like Prince fans.

.

Then again I am sure some of those people at MJJ community are big Prince fans too biggrin

I'm looking forward to Dangerous25 .Wonder which outtakes they will put on it? I really hope "If u don't love me" isn't on there

If there were plans for a Dangerous25, wouldn't we know something about it by now given this Fall is the 25th anniversary of Dangerous' release?

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Reply #43 posted 01/12/16 5:20pm

214

The documentary will be very interesting thing to watch, but such a shame no demos allowed.

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Reply #44 posted 01/12/16 5:28pm

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214 said:

The documentary will be very interesting thing to watch, but such a shame no demos allowed.


When is the documentary coming out?
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Reply #45 posted 01/12/16 6:28pm

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214 said:

The documentary will be very interesting thing to watch, but such a shame no demos allowed.

When is the documentary coming out?

February will be packed with the album, as far as i know.

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Reply #46 posted 01/12/16 8:53pm

Scorp

Aaaaaoooooowwwwwww

Oooooooooohhh

MJ was singing like his life depended on it.......

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Reply #47 posted 01/12/16 9:11pm

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I can't wait for that Off the Wall Documentary!

Same I am really excited!!!! biggrin

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Reply #48 posted 01/13/16 5:23am

Scorp

In that clip above, it shows that Michael was already using wind on stage to fly his costumes up in the air

If they show the entire performance of Dont Stop Til You Get Enough alone, thatll be enough to make it known how he really was back then
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Reply #49 posted 01/13/16 10:05am

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I don't care about what Weeknd thinks of OTW. THis documentary should be solely about Michael Jackson and not the flavor of the month's opinion on how it "influenced" him.

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Reply #50 posted 01/13/16 12:00pm

Scorp

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I don't care about what Weeknd thinks of OTW. THis documentary should be solely about Michael Jackson and not the flavor of the month's opinion on how it "influenced" him.




Amen to that, he just botchin it up

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Reply #51 posted 01/13/16 12:16pm

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MichaelJackson5 said:

I don't care about what Weeknd thinks of OTW. THis documentary should be solely about Michael Jackson and not the flavor of the month's opinion on how it "influenced" him.

You're right, it's always the same with these documentaries.

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Reply #52 posted 01/13/16 2:48pm

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breakdown2k14 said:

Adorecream said:

Changing the subject, who is looking forward to Dangerous25?


.


AND some fool on MJJ is already mentioning a BAD30 album for 2017! They don't muck around the MJ fans, almost like us Prince fans. One guy is also planning to make a 7 disc set of MJ bootlegs called Michael Jackson bonus cuts (One for each album from off the wall to Invincible and post Invincible). Sounds like they think like Prince fans.


.


Then again I am sure some of those people at MJJ community are big Prince fans too biggrin


I'm looking forward to Dangerous25 .Wonder which outtakes they will put on it? I really hope "If u don't love me" isn't on there


I am SO excited for D25! I don't like If You Don't Love Me either. I'm hoping Serious Effect, She Got It, and Someone Put Your Hand Out are on there!!! I'm also hoping there are no horrible remixes like there were on the Bad25 second disc. Fockin horrible. Who wants to hear Pitbull rapping about a pregnant woman being late to a screeching techno beat? Waste of 3 tracks.
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Reply #53 posted 01/13/16 2:51pm

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214 said:



MichaelJackson5 said:


I don't care about what Weeknd thinks of OTW. THis documentary should be solely about Michael Jackson and not the flavor of the month's opinion on how it "influenced" him.



You're right, it's always the same with these documentaries.



Same here. Who gives a fuck? I don't have anything against the people that spoke in the documentaries, but I want to see rare footage and making-of stuff. Maybe a word or two hear or there from people that were there, but it aint wanted.
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Reply #54 posted 01/13/16 5:18pm

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tongueinthecrease said:

breakdown2k14 said:
I'm looking forward to Dangerous25 .Wonder which outtakes they will put on it? I really hope "If u don't love me" isn't on there
I am SO excited for D25! I don't like If You Don't Love Me either. I'm hoping Serious Effect, She Got It, and Someone Put Your Hand Out are on there!!! I'm also hoping there are no horrible remixes like there were on the Bad25 second disc. Fockin horrible. Who wants to hear Pitbull rapping about a pregnant woman being late to a screeching techno beat? Waste of 3 tracks.

I like this one, but not the lyrics, overall it's not so good.

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Reply #55 posted 01/13/16 6:50pm

mjscarousal

I LOVE Serious Effect music. Its such a groovy song!

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Reply #56 posted 01/13/16 7:09pm

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214 said:



tongueinthecrease said:


breakdown2k14 said:
I'm looking forward to Dangerous25 .Wonder which outtakes they will put on it? I really hope "If u don't love me" isn't on there

I am SO excited for D25! I don't like If You Don't Love Me either. I'm hoping Serious Effect, She Got It, and Someone Put Your Hand Out are on there!!! I'm also hoping there are no horrible remixes like there were on the Bad25 second disc. Fockin horrible. Who wants to hear Pitbull rapping about a pregnant woman being late to a screeching techno beat? Waste of 3 tracks.

I like this one, but not the lyrics, overall it's not so good.



Oh well, lol. I love the song and would keep it over some crappy, new dubstep mix that Sony will try to add to the album... If it comes out.

Serious effect
On me, baby
Serious
And I'm so damn glad about it!
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Reply #57 posted 01/14/16 10:59am

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mjscarousal said:

I LOVE Serious Effect music. Its such a groovy song!



Is these songs you're all talking about off the 'Xscape' album?
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Reply #58 posted 01/14/16 11:51am

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Beautifulstarr123 said:

mjscarousal said:

I LOVE Serious Effect music. Its such a groovy song!



Is these songs you're all talking about off the 'Xscape' album?


Did you read the thread? They're all outtakes that we are hoping are included on a future anniversary release.

The Xscape album has already been pressed, but includes outtakes that can't really be considered outtakes anymore since they've been released.
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Reply #59 posted 01/14/16 12:08pm

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tongueinthecrease said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:



Is these songs you're all talking about off the 'Xscape' album?


Did you read the thread? They're all outtakes that we are hoping are included on a future anniversary release.

The Xscape album has already been pressed, but includes outtakes that can't really be considered outtakes anymore since they've been released.


Sorry no, I didn't read it but thanks.
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