kitbradley said:

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said: The same thing was said about Janet Jackson at 49. She has a number 1 album and number 1 song. The same thing was said about Mimi after her breakdown after what was supposedly her worst album Glitter(according to media at that time),yet a lot of knowledgeable music fans loved it. Virgin payed her a lot of money to release her and hen Charmbracelet came and went and people predicted her demise prematurely but she came back strong with Mimi. The point is the music biz is fickle and unpredictable. Chante is probably not gonna get a hit with Kurupt though. Chante is in the Lalah Hathaway group musically but Lalah gets a hell of a lot of respect from fans for being Lalah especially at her live shows. Chante would get that same respect too but she will damn sure lose her audience with that Kurupt shit.

Janet and Mimi have a wider, more diverse audience than Chante. Unlike those two, there is no buzz when Chante releases an album. However, I haven't heard any of Janet's material from her new album played outside of Black A/C radio. A number #1 album today does not mean the same as it did years ago. Tyrese Gibson's last album was #1 on the Pop side. Did he get any airplay on stations outside of Black A/C? Nope. Same with Jill Scott. #1 Pop album. No radio support outside of Black A/C radio. Doesn't take much for an album to debut in the #1 spot on the Billboard Top 200 these days. Just a few thousands copies sold during the first week. It doesn't translate over into widespread airplay.

Hell that's all she needs. R&B radio always had her back. When Control came out in 1986 Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis stated that they never expected the album to go pop. They wanted to make sure the album was in every black household and pop radio just happened to come along. Is being number 1 on the black charts and being ignored by pop radio some kind of disease? There is nothing wrong with R&B airplay. Why would a soulful artist like Tyrese Gibson need airplay on

pop radio? I know Janet has a wider audience. My point was during the buzz of her recording a new album there was talk of her not making any impact whatsoever because of her age and she proved them wrong. Wendy Williams even tried to say Janet should just tour and not record a new album on her show because it's a Beyonce Rihanna world. Yes it is for those who pay attention. There is a market for a lot of artists that aren't mainstream. Airplay and sales are unpredictable as the weather. Check out Lalah Hathaway now. She's tops on the R&B charts now in digital sales.

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said:

Janet and Mimi have a wider, more diverse audience than Chante. Unlike those two, there is no buzz when Chante releases an album. However, I haven't heard any of Janet's material from her new album played outside of Black A/C radio. A number #1 album today does not mean the same as it did years ago. Tyrese Gibson's last album was #1 on the Pop side. Did he get any airplay on stations outside of Black A/C? Nope. Same with Jill Scott. #1 Pop album. No radio support outside of Black A/C radio. Doesn't take much for an album to debut in the #1 spot on the Billboard Top 200 these days. Just a few thousands copies sold during the first week. It doesn't translate over into widespread airplay.

Hell that's all she needs. R&B radio always had her back. When Control came out in 1986 Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis stated that they never expected the album to go pop. They wanted to make sure the album was in every black household and pop radio just happened to come along. Is being number 1 on the black charts and being ignored by pop radio some kind of disease? There is nothing wrong with R&B airplay. Why would a soulful artist like Tyrese Gibson need airplay on

pop radio? I know Janet has a wider audience. My point was during the buzz of her recording a new album there was talk of her not making any impact whatsoever because of her age and she proved them wrong. Wendy Williams even tried to say Janet should just tour and not record a new album on her show because it's a Beyonce Rihanna world. Yes it is for those who pay attention. There is a market for a lot of artists that aren't mainstream. Airplay and sales are unpredictable as the weather. Check out Lalah Hathaway now. She's tops on the R&B charts now in digital sales.

I feel the same. But, you know what mainstream media and even a lot of fans say if you are a black artist who was once a huge crossover draw but can now only get airplay on Black A/C formats, they say silly things like the artist is no longer relevant, their careers are over, they haven't had a hit in 20 years, etc. Just because Pop radio won't play their music. It's happened to Diana, Nippy, Mimi and so many others. Just because an artist is still performing after a certain age and no longer appeals to younger audiences doesn't all of a sudden make them less relevant.

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said:

Janet and Mimi have a wider, more diverse audience than Chante. Unlike those two, there is no buzz when Chante releases an album. However, I haven't heard any of Janet's material from her new album played outside of Black A/C radio. A number #1 album today does not mean the same as it did years ago. Tyrese Gibson's last album was #1 on the Pop side. Did he get any airplay on stations outside of Black A/C? Nope. Same with Jill Scott. #1 Pop album. No radio support outside of Black A/C radio. Doesn't take much for an album to debut in the #1 spot on the Billboard Top 200 these days. Just a few thousands copies sold during the first week. It doesn't translate over into widespread airplay.

Hell that's all she needs. R&B radio always had her back. When Control came out in 1986 Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis stated that they never expected the album to go pop. They wanted to make sure the album was in every black household and pop radio just happened to come along. Is being number 1 on the black charts and being ignored by pop radio some kind of disease? There is nothing wrong with R&B airplay. Why would a soulful artist like Tyrese Gibson need airplay on

pop radio? I know Janet has a wider audience. My point was during the buzz of her recording a new album there was talk of her not making any impact whatsoever because of her age and she proved them wrong. Wendy Williams even tried to say Janet should just tour and not record a new album on her show because it's a Beyonce Rihanna world. Yes it is for those who pay attention. There is a market for a lot of artists that aren't mainstream. Airplay and sales are unpredictable as the weather. Check out Lalah Hathaway now. She's tops on the R&B charts now in digital sales.

tell it!!!

SoulAlive said:

kitbradley said:

I think Chante is like a lot of women living in fairytale land thinking that they are going to fall in love, get married to some perfect guy and live happily ever after.

like Halle Berry and J-Lo These type of women fall in love too quickly and they allow themselves to get caught up in that fairytale life.They need to be more realistic about love.

In the premiere season of R&B Divas, the cast did a monologue stage play that was about their idividual struggles. Chante's portion of the play was exactly about that: her needing to be loved, to have the perfect love like she always felt she saw in her parents, and how certain events in her life like the rape and loss of her mother played a big part affecting she handles herself in relationships...hence the book she ended up writing "Would I Marry Me?", where she examines her own brokeness.

SoulAlive said:

kitbradley said:

But, like, what male R&B singer hasn't been accused of being gay at some point in their career?

that's true

These days, if you don't look like a metal-mouth Gremlin with 10 baby mamas in tow, and rap or sing misognystic lyrics about about blow jobs & twerking, the general public tries to paint a dude as gay...and God forbid he be light skinned : that's damn near instant conviction in today's gossip court of public opinion.

HuMpThAnG said:

SoulAlive said:

I just saw the Lakeside episode.It's a great episode,but I was getting pissed off near the end of it

not THAT was a good episode

getting their last 4 albums....errrr cd's before the prices get jacked

been putting it off too long

I still do that too, sometimes

Ottensen said:

HuMpThAnG said:

not THAT was a good episode

getting their last 4 albums....errrr cd's before the prices get jacked

been putting it off too long

I still do that too, sometimes

SoulAlive said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Well, she is an Unsung artist IMO.

Chante is an amazing artist.....she's pretty,has a beautiful voice,and she has a wonderful,classy image.Seems really down to earth.Her first two albums are excellent but it seems like,after those albums,her record company (and/or management) didn't know what to do with her.They began pairing her with "hot" producers like Jermaine Dupri,trying to turn her into a sexpot singer.I'm not sure if that was the right strategy.

Absolutely agree with you. I bought her first two albums and still love them but I don´t even remember the third one although I bought that one as well. It just wasn´t as memorable or cohesive soundwise like the first two were.

By the way, there was one song on the third one that was pretty much the same song that J-Lo released later...you know, that JLo song "If You Had My Love"? I think it was called If I Gave You Love on Chante´s album but the melody was the same.

What was up with that? Same producer or songwriter maybe?

Cinny said:

phunkdaddy said:

Cinny said: Is Outrageous on that album?

No. "Outrageous" is the title track of their 1984 album, while Untouchables (1983) contains the hit "Raid".

I have a similar picture of you on my Ipod....holding the Dirty Mind album. So I see you almost every day during my commute because I listen to the same old songs during my bus trip.

It´s such a small world!

KoolEaze said:

SoulAlive said:

Chante is an amazing artist.....she's pretty,has a beautiful voice,and she has a wonderful,classy image.Seems really down to earth.Her first two albums are excellent but it seems like,after those albums,her record company (and/or management) didn't know what to do with her.They began pairing her with "hot" producers like Jermaine Dupri,trying to turn her into a sexpot singer.I'm not sure if that was the right strategy.

Absolutely agree with you. I bought her first two albums and still love them but I don´t even remember the third one although I bought that one as well. It just wasn´t as memorable or cohesive soundwise like the first two were.

By the way, there was one song on the third one that was pretty much the same song that J-Lo released later...you know, that JLo song "If You Had My Love"? I think it was called If I Gave You Love on Chante´s album but the melody was the same.

What was up with that? Same producer or songwriter maybe?

The story behind that is Chante had hers first but J Lo's version on her album got released

first. It wasn't uncommon for producers to release similar sounding songs for artists they produced. Hell this goes way back to the 70's and 80's. We can start with Jimmy Jam and

Terry Lewis, Kashif, Babyface, Leon Sylvers, etc.

In that song with Kurupt,does she really say something like "we can do it,but don't you pull my weave"???

Hopefully,that song will never see the light of day!

KoolEaze said:

By the way, there was one song on the third one that was pretty much the same song that J-Lo released later...you know, that JLo song "If You Had My Love"? I think it was called If I Gave You Love on Chante´s album but the melody was the same. What was up with that? Same producer or songwriter maybe?

Yeah, Rodney Jerkins. 5:10 - 6:29

SoulAlive said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I don't own any Lakeside beside their main hit on a Funk compilation. How would you all rank/compare them to other Funk outfits of the late 70d/early 80s? Cameo Slave Zapp Gap Band Con-Funk-Shun BT Express The Time Midnight Star Sun ect. I didn't include the likes of EWF, P-Funk, Isleys, Kool Gang because they're on a different level.

I love Lakeside but out of those bands listed,I would say that Cameo and Con Funk Shun were my favorites....but really,they were all great! That's what was so cool about music back then.We had alot of 'quality music' to choose from.

If I were 2 compare Lakeside to anyone, I'd say, Con Funk Shun, mainly because they could throw down as credibly AND sink their teeth into a syruppy ballad TOO. B.T. Express would DEFINITELY benefit from an Unsung as would Fatback or Sun!

KoolEaze said:

Cinny said:

No. "Outrageous" is the title track of their 1984 album, while Untouchables (1983) contains the hit "Raid".

I have a similar picture of you on my Ipod....holding the Dirty Mind album. So I see you almost every day during my commute because I listen to the same old songs during my bus trip.

It´s such a small world!

For sure.
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Loved the Chante' Moore episode, but Lakeside I could do without...yeah I said it Did Donnie Simpson have a crush on Chante' or something cuz he damn sure acts like he does

Cinny said:

KoolEaze said:

I have a similar picture of you on my Ipod....holding the Dirty Mind album. So I see you almost every day during my commute because I listen to the same old songs during my bus trip.

It´s such a small world!

For sure.
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Yep, that´s the one!

After watching the Lakeside episode,I found a copy of their Your Wish Is My Command album and it is fantastic! Shame on me for waiting all these years to get into it!

SoulAlive said:

After watching the Lakeside episode,I found a copy of their Your Wish Is My Command album and it is fantastic! Shame on me for waiting all these years to get into it!

whitechocolatebrotha said:

SoulAlive said:

I love Lakeside but out of those bands listed,I would say that Cameo and Con Funk Shun were my favorites....but really,they were all great! That's what was so cool about music back then.We had alot of 'quality music' to choose from.

If I were 2 compare Lakeside to anyone, I'd say, Con Funk Shun, mainly because they could throw down as credibly AND sink their teeth into a syruppy ballad TOO. B.T. Express would DEFINITELY benefit from an Unsung as would Fatback or Sun!

I agree! And what about Slave?

SoulAlive said:

whitechocolatebrotha said:

If I were 2 compare Lakeside to anyone, I'd say, Con Funk Shun, mainly because they could throw down as credibly AND sink their teeth into a syruppy ballad TOO. B.T. Express would DEFINITELY benefit from an Unsung as would Fatback or Sun!

I agree! And what about Slave?

DEFINITELY Slave....Steve Arrington & Mark Adams (RIP) are two of my favorite musicians ever

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