kitbradley said:

I think Chante is like a lot of women living in fairytale land thinking that they are going to fall in love, get married to some perfect guy and live happily ever after.

like Halle Berry and J-Lo These type of women fall in love too quickly and they allow themselves to get caught up in that fairytale life.They need to be more realistic about love.

kitbradley said:

Lord, please don't let her release a hip-hop album! That song she was singing with that rapper sounded awful!

This is one reason why I wasn't too crazy about her last album.It was too hip-hop sounding and one of the tracks even featured Da Brat.Imo,Chante needs to get back to the sound of her first two albums....sweet,melodic,warm,soulful grooves.

SoulAlive said:

This is one reason why I wasn't too crazy about her last album.It was too hip-hop sounding and one of the tracks even featured Da Brat. Imo,Chante needs to get back to the sound of her first two albums....sweet,melodic,warm,soulful grooves.

They didn't sell too well though. There was a reason the sound changed after that. Look at who was popular during that time: Mary J. Blige, En Vogue, TLC, SWV, Jade, etc. and they all had hip hop elements to their music. Except for En Vogue, they dressed in a hip hop style too. Mariah Carey had some New Jack Swing songs like Someday. On her debut album she even raps on one song Prisoner. Then there were the dance music singers like CeCe Peniston, Rozalla, Real McCoy, and Crystal Waters. With Chanté, the quiet storm audience is not enough to sell a lot of records and her first 2 albums were not pop enough like Whitney, Mariah, Boyz II Men, & Toni Braxton, so that didn't help her crossover chances.

^^the first two albums didn't sell well because they weren't properly promoted.A wonderful single like "It's Alright" should have been a smash! That's her finest single right there.

I love this clip of Chante singing "It's Alright" on the Tom Joyner Show

SoulAlive said:

HuMpThAnG said:

you mean you weren't feeling the following?:

All In My Mind

Real Love

Say Yes

Songwriter

I Love Everything You Do

those were the jams

I'm gonna have to pull out the albums and give those songs a spin.

Bullseye on the Power album.

SoulAlive said:

^^the first two albums didn't sell well because they weren't properly promoted.A wonderful single like "It's Alright" should have been a smash! That's her finest single right there.

That's quiet storm R&B, like Phyllis Hyman. They didn't have the "urban contemporary" format then. I don't see It's Alright" coming on after Dr. Dre, C+C Music Factory, or Cypress Hill (unless she put out a remix), but SWV can. Maybe if Chante was produced by Babyface, Teddy Riley, Narada Michael Walden or Puff Daddy instead of people like George Duke & BeBe Winans, maybe she would have had a better chance at radio play, especially on pop stations. At best, she could have been marketed to the smooth jazz audience, and the only one who was a really big seller was Kenny G. Even if she did have better promotion, Chante's music was not hip hop or pop enough to really become big during the early 1990s. Maybe if her record came out when acts like Anita Baker, Jeffrey Osborne, and Freddie Jackson were still popular, it would fit with that. New Jack Swing and hip hop pretty much killed that on R&B radio in the late 1980s. Even Sade changed their sound in the 1990s from what they were doing in the 1980s and didn't lose popularity.

SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

SoulAlive said:

^^the first two albums didn't sell well because they weren't properly promoted.A wonderful single like "It's Alright" should have been a smash! That's her finest single right there.

That's quiet storm R&B, like Phyllis Hyman. They didn't have the "urban contemporary" format then. I don't see It's Alright" coming on after Dr. Dre, C+C Music Factory, or Cypress Hill (unless she put out a remix), but SWV can. Maybe if Chante was produced by Babyface, Teddy Riley, Narada Michael Walden or Puff Daddy instead of people like George Duke & BeBe Winans, maybe she would have had a better chance at radio play, especially on pop stations. At best, she could have been marketed to the smooth jazz audience, and the only one who was a really big seller was Kenny G. Even if she did have better promotion, Chante's music was not hip hop or pop enough to really become big during the early 1990s. Maybe if her record came out when acts like Anita Baker, Jeffrey Osborne, and Freddie Jackson were still popular, it would fit with that. New Jack Swing and hip hop pretty much killed that on R&B radio in the late 1980s. Even Sade changed their sound in the 1990s from what they were doing in the 1980s and didn't lose popularity.

The thing is,Chante was a very classy,sophisticated artist back then.In her first music video,she is wearing a sexy evening gown.That's who she really is.She's not hip-hop When she did the "Straight Up" song (produced by Jermaine Dupri),it seemed forced...as if the record company was pressuring her to appear that way.It didn't seem like it was really "her".And I would argue that there was a market for the type of quiet storm R&B that she did on the first two albums.Sade was still having alot of success with their type of quiet storm sound.I agree,Babyface would have been a perfect producer for Chante.Some of the stuff that he produced for Toni Braxton had that quiet storm flavor ("Seven Whole Days",for example...or "Betcha Never" which he produced for Vanessa Williams).

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SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

That's quiet storm R&B, like Phyllis Hyman. They didn't have the "urban contemporary" format then. I don't see It's Alright" coming on after Dr. Dre, C+C Music Factory, or Cypress Hill (unless she put out a remix), but SWV can. Maybe if Chante was produced by Babyface, Teddy Riley, Narada Michael Walden or Puff Daddy instead of people like George Duke & BeBe Winans, maybe she would have had a better chance at radio play, especially on pop stations. At best, she could have been marketed to the smooth jazz audience, and the only one who was a really big seller was Kenny G. Even if she did have better promotion, Chante's music was not hip hop or pop enough to really become big during the early 1990s. Maybe if her record came out when acts like Anita Baker, Jeffrey Osborne, and Freddie Jackson were still popular, it would fit with that. New Jack Swing and hip hop pretty much killed that on R&B radio in the late 1980s. Even Sade changed their sound in the 1990s from what they were doing in the 1980s and didn't lose popularity.

The thing is,Chante was a very classy,sophisticated artist back then.In her first music video,she is wearing a sexy evening gown.That's who she really is.She's not hip-hop When she did the "Straight Up" song (produced by Jermaine Dupri),it seemed forced...as if the record company was pressuring her to appear that way.It didn't seem like it was really "her".And I would argue that there was a market for the type of quiet storm R&B that she did on the first two albums.Sade was still having alot of success with their type of quiet storm sound.I agree,Babyface would have been a perfect producer for Chante.Some of the stuff that he produced for Toni Braxton had that quiet storm flavor ("Seven Whole Days",for example...or "Betcha Never" which he produced for Vanessa Williams).

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Chante did record one Babyface tune on the Waiting To Exhale soundtrack. Wey You

I actually liked Chante's first 4 albums. Underexposed is pretty good. You just have to get past

the 2 or 3 tracks Jermaine Dupri and the rest of it's pretty good. Believe it or not Chante is coming to my area this month. I'm looking to check her out.

Abdul said:

SoulAlive said:

Lakeside had a lot of cool jams! "Your Love Is On The One" (1980) "It's All The Way Live" (1978) "Pull My String" (1979) "Outrageous" (1984) "Make My Day" (1984)

My top ten Lakeside jams: Shot of Love (1978) It's All The Way Live (1978) Pull My Strings (1979) Rough Rider (1979) Fantastic Voyage (1980) Your Love Is On The One (1980) Back Together Again (1981) Something About That Woman (1981) Magic Moments (1981) Raid (1983)

don't forget:

Special

Strung Out

Urban Man

SoulAlive said:

I wonder what would have happened if Chante had signed with Arista and had Clive Davis guiding her career I bet she would have had alot of crossover success.

kitbradley said:

Still bewilders me why MCA chose not to market her outside of black radio. Did she address that on Unsung? Chante possessed everything it took to be a huge, non-threatening Pop A/C superstar like Nippy and Mimi.

I doubt it. Nippy was his Pop queen. He wouldn't have allowed Chante any of that spotlight.

Graycap23 said:

kitbradley said:

Just got a chance to watch the Chante episode. I don't get the feeling she and Kenny's marriage broke up due to any sexual orientation issues. Just listening to her talk about her experiences with men in general, I think Chante is like a lot of women living in fairytale land thinking that they are going to fall in love, get married to some perfect guy and live happily ever after. It didn't happen. And Lord, please don't let her release a hip-hop album! That song she was singing with that rapper sounded awful!

So what do u think she meant by, "we love in different kinda of ways"?

Good question. She could have meant any number of things. Some people love "harder" than others. Chante seems like she could be one of those people. And if she's with a dude who does not return her love with the same kind of intensity, then she ends up disappointed. I saw tears in her eyes when she made that "we love in different kinds of ways" statement. I think she was just really hurt that their marriage wasn't what she wanted it to be. You know how cold and distant some dudes can become, especially after they get married. But only she, Kenny and God know for sure what went wrong.

SoulAlive said:

kitbradley said:

Lord, please don't let her release a hip-hop album! That song she was singing with that rapper sounded awful!

This is one reason why I wasn't too crazy about her last album.It was too hip-hop sounding and one of the tracks even featured Da Brat.Imo,Chante needs to get back to the sound of her first two albums....sweet,melodic,warm,soulful grooves.

Yeah, I didn't like that album at all. I listened to it once. Nothing really caught my attention. Completely forgettable and her weakest album to date. I would really love to hear her do some more jazz stuff. I always listen to her version of Nancy Wilson's "Guess Who I Saw Today". I thought that was brilliant!

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Cinny said:

phunkdaddy said:

Cinny said:

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Is Outrageous on that album?

No. "Outrageous" is the title track of their 1984 album, while Untouchables (1983) contains the hit "Raid".

HuMpThAnG said:

Abdul said:

SoulAlive said: My top ten Lakeside jams: Shot of Love (1978) It's All The Way Live (1978) Pull My Strings (1979) Rough Rider (1979) Fantastic Voyage (1980) Your Love Is On The One (1980) Back Together Again (1981) Something About That Woman (1981) Magic Moments (1981) Raid (1983)

don't forget:

Special

Strung Out

Urban Man

Abdul said:

HuMpThAnG said:

don't forget:

Special

Strung Out

Urban Man

those were the jams also

SoulAlive said:

The thing is, Chante was a very classy, sophisticated artist back then. In her first music video,she is wearing a sexy evening gown. That's who she really is. She's not hip-hop

How do you know that? Mariah Carey has said her earlier albums were more Tommy Mottola's idea than hers and that the record company didn't understand why she did the song with ODB. She has followed the same formula ever since. Whitney's image was not her either. Because of her image is why folks wondered why she got with Bobby Brown and that Bobby was the reason she was on drugs when it was her brother who introduced it long before she met Bobby. The Supremes were from the projects, but they wore fancy dresses.

Sounds hip hop to me. The first one is an interpolation of Positive K's hit

phunkdaddy said:

I remember when Indie.Arie first cut I'm Not My Hair it was without a collabo but she said the label pretty much made her do a version with Akon whom she was not into.

I remember this.She was pissed It was so nice to see a female artist speaking up about the shady games that record companies play.Indie Arie made it clear that she is not a fan of Akon,and did not want him on her song.

MickyDolenz said:

SoulAlive said:

The thing is, Chante was a very classy, sophisticated artist back then. In her first music video,she is wearing a sexy evening gown. That's who she really is. She's not hip-hop

How do you know that?

It's just my gut feeling It's been well-documented how record companies will do anything to make a record sell.Many times,the artist does NOT even approve of their tactics,but what can they do?

SoulAlive said:

It's just my gut feeling It's been well-documented how record companies will do anything to make a record sell. Many times,the artist does NOT even approve of their tactics,but what can they do?

If that was the case, there's not much of a point of Chante doing songs nowadays with Kurupt & Da Brat, who aren't even hot anymore. Those are not the rappers to use if she or her label is trying to get radio airplay. Da Brat was popular in the 1990s. Like other older acts like Charlie Wilson, The Dramatics, Daryl Hall, Morris Day, James Brown, Roger Troutman, The Temptations, etc. Chante has sung hooks on rap songs and she was the teacher in Lil Bow Wow's video.

One of my favorite movie scenes is Savannah Jackson (Whitney Houston) driving down the freeway listening to the radio playing Chante Moore's "Wey U".

SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

If that was the case, there's not much of a point of Chante doing songs nowadays with Kurupt & Da Brat, who aren't even hot anymore. Those are not the rappers to use if she or her label is trying to get radio airplay. Da Brat was popular in the 1990s. Like other older acts like Charlie Wilson, The Dramatics, Daryl Hall, Morris Day, James Brown, Roger Troutman, The Temptations, etc. Chante has sung hooks on rap songs and she was the teacher in Lil Bow Wow's video.

Chante is a 48 year old black female R&B singer (who looks bloody amazing!). Doesn't make any difference who she works with now. Her radio play days are over. I guess she's like Mimi. She's just doing whatever the hell she wants to do now.

kitbradley said:

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said:

Chante is a 48 year old black female R&B singer (who looks bloody amazing!). Doesn't make any difference who she works with now. Her radio play days are over. I guess she's like Mimi. She's just doing whatever the hell she wants to do now.

The same thing was said about Janet Jackson at 49. She has a number 1 album and number 1 song. The same thing was said about Mimi after her breakdown after what was supposedly her worst album Glitter(according to media at that time),yet a lot of knowledgeable music fans loved it. Virgin payed her a lot of money to release her and hen Charmbracelet came and went and people predicted her demise prematurely but she came back strong with Mimi. The point is the music biz is fickle and unpredictable. Chante is probably not gonna get a hit with Kurupt though. Chante is in the Lalah Hathaway group musically but Lalah gets a hell of a lot of respect from fans for being Lalah especially at her live shows. Chante would get that same respect too but she will damn sure lose her audience with that Kurupt shit.

Janet and Mimi have a wider, more diverse audience than Chante. Unlike those two, there is no buzz when Chante releases an album. However, I haven't heard any of Janet's material from her new album played outside of Black A/C radio. A number #1 album today does not mean the same as it did years ago. Tyrese Gibson's last album was #1 on the Pop side. Did he get any airplay on stations outside of Black A/C? Nope. Same with Jill Scott. #1 Pop album. No radio support outside of Black A/C radio. Doesn't take much for an album to debut in the #1 spot on the Billboard Top 200 these days. Just a few thousands copies sold during the first week. It doesn't translate over into widespread airplay.