...was she anything special? Like, say, a Prince or a Madonna? Or was it a load of average pop tunes dressed up in new clothes?

I know she's still going of course, but it's unlikely she'll scale the heights like she did a few years ago. Hats off to her if she does!

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MrsFelicityCrumble said:

PS and how do I get paragraphs to work on here?

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Lammastide said:

MrsFelicityCrumble said:

PS and how do I get paragraphs to work on here?

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MotownSubdivision said:

It's highly unlikely, bordering impossibility that Gaga will come within reach of her initial success again. Yeah, her music was average pop wrapped in an eye-catching package but the woman is damn talented. Her vocal ability is impressive and she's a proven performer. She did good by the collab album with Tony Bennett.

There was that whiff of excitement when she was on the way up - have we got something extra special in the making here? I agree, MotownSubbyD, she's a good performer, but not an all time great

I gather that the image took the work of a stylist TEAM. We all knew she couldn't keep that charade up forever. But I would argue that it was a gimmick to some pretty good music.

Some killer tunes. Artpop is actually my favorite.

I don't like her singer/songwriter "talented" vocal/piano shit.

I looove her grimier pop

So Happy I Could Die

G.U.Y.

Mary Jane Holland

Sexx Dreams

Monster

Alejandro

Starstruck

Scheibe

Bloody Mary

Bad Kids

Marry the Night

Govt Hooker

Heavy Metal Lover

Cinny said:

I couldn't disagree more. When she 'tries' (aka the Bennett album) , it's overung, too musical theatre and falls flat. When she stays in the dance pop/Madonna lane, she rules. Just imvho.

daingermouz2020 said:

alphastreet said:

Cinny said:

I gather that the image took the work of a stylist TEAM. We all knew she couldn't keep that charade up forever. But I would argue that it was a gimmick to some pretty good music.

Things went downhill as soon as her primary stylist left the team, can't be a coincidence. Born this way still had some shining moments but artpoop was garbage as a full album though working with tony Bennett was a great recovery I think she should do an album inspired by a musical/broadway and collaborate with writers of that genre.

If thats true, that tells me that her music didn't have enough substance to stand on its own.

Granted, I can't dismiss the visual aspect but if it eclipsed the music as opposed to serve as a balance, then chances are she's gonna have a tough time bouncing back.

She needs to stop with the Madonna thing and go after her true inspirations; Meatloaf and Bruce Springsteen!

CynicKill said:

She needs to stop with the Madonna thing and go after her true inspirations; Meatloaf and Bruce Springsteen!

I agree that would be sustainable and play to her strengths as a musical talent.

daingermouz2020 said:

she couldn't win playing Madonna's game.

Gaga was doing the most between Hard Candy (2008) and MDNA (2012). But,

I actually found ARTPOP to be her most satisfying album.

I'm not sure she's one of "the greats," but she certainly is special. And I think a lot more people would find her appealing if she would stop trying so hard to weird, and let her talent be the focus.

I love her piano stuff.

She is doing a tv show now.

MrsFelicityCrumble said:

...was she anything special? Like, say, a Prince or a Madonna? Or was it a load of average pop tunes dressed up in new clothes?

I know she's still going of course, but it's unlikely she'll scale the heights like she did a few years ago. Hats off to her if she does!

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Gaga is like cher & elton john more than madonna imo. I find her to be more of a performance artist with a great voice. In that vein, I think thats what makes her great. Its too soon to judge yet, but there's still alot left for her to do - I love her though ....dumb, shes not.

She's one of the better popstars of our times.

I wouldn't personally buy her music, but I rate her over the like of Beyonce, Rhianna etc.

I say she had the aura of 80-81 Prince but failed to deliver a 1999 - Purple Rain; as a whole, Born This Way may be as epic as 1999, but not as good

she has jumped from Controversy/lesser 1999 to a...what? duets with Tony Bennet? gosh...

she may be done, and we-she don't know it yet...

alphastreet said:

maybe there's something to this b***h.....john lydon praises her

dancerella said:

Time will tell

MotownSubdivision said:

dancerella said:

I disagree that Gaga sings better than Madge. I love Madonna's voice.

But Gaga is objectively the better vocalist. [Edited 9/23/15 15:16pm]

Maybe from a purely technical point of view, but Madonna conveys more emotion and is more pleasant to listen to. She sings in a more subtle way, rather than all of the screaming Gaga does.

I feel Gaga needs to realize that pop is a diverse category of music. She tends on her pop albums to limit herself to just thumpy EDM type of songs and it gets boring and repetitive. Pop music can encompass mid tempo, ballads, acoustic, R&B jams all types of things.

Madonna, for example, has a much more diverse catalogue than Gaga has.

Gaga seems to know either one extreme or the other: thumpy EDM songs or jazz standards. There is a lot in between.