lastdecember said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Word! I agree and people trying to compare her lipped performance to other performers lipping on American Bandstand, Soul Train, the Superbowl...please! Lipping on those shows or during a live concert is not the same thing as lipping the national anthem on a major event like the inauguration! The reason why Bey is getting so much flack for it is because unlike some of her contemporaries like Britney, Katy, Rihanna, etc. Bey can actually sing. Now if this were Rihanna or Britney lipping the national anthem during the inauguration no one would be surprised and they'd even expect it. But someone who can actually carry a tune and has sung live numerous times like Beyonce is expected to sing it live, not lip. Not to mention Kelly Clarkson, James Taylor and the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir all sung their songs live too.Trust, if this were Jennifer Hudson instead of Bey she would get as much backlash if not even more because J-Hud is a better singer than Bey. Unfortunately for Beyonce she tried to play it safe and it blew up in her face.

Aretha Franklin 'Really Laughed' About Beyonce Lip-Sync Controversy

Aretha Franklin wowed the crowds at President Obama's first inauguration four years ago, belting out "My Country 'Tis of Thee" on a bitterly cold Washington, D.C., day.

Four years later it was Beyonce whose performance drew initial raves at Obama's second inauguration, but with the news that she may have lip-synched her rendition of the "Star Spangled Banner" the Queen of Soul weighed in on the controversy, noting that she still thinks Beyonce "did a beautiful job."

"But, when I heard the news this evening that she was pre-recorded I really laughed. I thought it was funny because the weather down there was about 46 or 44 degrees and for most singers that is just not good singing weather," Franklin told ABC News in an interview. In fact, the weather was even colder than that Monday, around 40 degrees.

"When I heard that I just really cracked up. I thought it was really funny, but she did a beautiful job with the pre-record ... next time I'll probably do the same."

Of course, in her inauguration performance in 2009, she sang it live because, she says, "I wanted to give people the real thing and pre-recording never crossed my mind."

She did lament that she wished she hadn't had to wait so long in the cold four years ago, saying that if she hadn't, her performance -- which had the crowd going wild -- would have been even better.

"Had I not had to sit that long, I had to sit for 45 or 30 minutes and it was much colder, it was in the 20s," Franklin said, of the performance where both her voice and her hat got noticed.

"I just wished I could have sung the moment I got there," she said. "If I could have walked on immediately and sung it wouldn't have affected my voice the way it did."

The 70 year-old music legend did admit to lip synching once when she performed "The Star-Spangled Banner" before the Detroit Pistons took on the Los Angeles Lakers in Game 5 of the NBA Finals in June of 2004.

So, does she think it's wrong what The Queen Bey did?

"I think it's optional really, it's up to the artist," Franklin said. "In 2009, I wanted everything to be live and on the real side for the moment as it actually happened. Those were my feelings for my performance, but having come face to face with 28, 22 degrees I am not surprised she pre-recorded. She wanted her performance to be what she wanted to be and she realized it wasn't going to be the way she wanted it to be or she was going to be running a risk. That's probably why she pre-recorded exactly how she wanted it to be heard."

Franklin added that Kelly Clarkson, who did sing live, and also sang "My Country 'Tis of Thee" was "magnificent" as well.

"I enjoyed every minute," Franklin said, adding that she "loved" Clarkson's arrangement of the song.

Franklin said she enjoyed James Taylor's performance and was quite emotional throughout the entire ceremony.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/beyonce-lip-sync-controversy-aretha-franklin-laughed/story?id=18289912

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actually lipping during a concert is WORSE, sorry, but if im paying money to see a band play and sing i dont want the record, especially if im spending hundreds on tickets, thats bullcrap right there, sorry, but everyone has issues with that unless its Janet or Madonna, but when Britney or someone "lesser" talented does it then they are crucified,. sorry but mariah carey charging 150 for a seat and then using a pre track is crap sorry, and the whole dancing excuse is BS for anyone who uses it, and im tired of hearing it already, cause plenty have danced and sang. I dont care about this because WHO GIVES A RATS ASS, its beyonce, at a ceromony and we all know these ceromonies are full of major cheese, this thing is going to be on dvd in a few weeks and a single on itunes, give me a break thats why it was done this way, this thing had promoters up the ass, and not just from beyonce from everyone appearing, its 100% marketing, what a shame that something like this is turned into cash in pocket for those who dont need it.

Ok, fair enough. That shouldnt happen but it does happen a lot!

Anyways whether she sang live or lipped I still felt her overall performance was just meh. Uninspired and unmemorable. Like someone else said Kelly Clarkson blew her outta the water. Btw I thought Bey was supposed to perform at the inaugural celebration later on?

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lastdecember said:

mjscarousal said:

I disagree.

Heres why:

Beyonce has gotten away with lipping NUMEROUS of times and she does it alot more than people give her credit for.

So boo who she finally got caught. If Brittany Spears, Rihanna, Chris Brown, Whitney Houston Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson etc can get called out for miming why cant Beyonce?

Like she is so above criticism that she cant get criticized? Give me a break

If you want to talk about double standards, than lets be real and talk about it then because thats a double standard and Im sick and tired of the ass kissing this chick gets for bullshit other artists get ALOT of flack for.

I personally dont care either way because whether Beyonce mime or did it live it still was a bland emotionless performance. Whitney mimed the National Anthem at SB and that damn thing is still the best of all time because it was a good vocal performance regardless of it being pre-recorded.

well first thing again im not defending her past work etc..i was on this forum calling her out for being a BAD singer, good voice but doesnt know how to sing, so im far from her defense attorney. HOWEVER the problem i have is saying "she got caught", where and how? getting caught means you said you were doing something and werent doing it, if she went on tv and said "and now im 100% live" and did that shit, and some wack ass member of a marching band told on her than id said oh she got caught, but to me there is no story here, and the reason there is one is because some no name in a band told this, who cares, and he or she should be ashamed to try and take away from OBAMA's day with this bulllshit, hopefully that little person will get some real exposure as an asshole. And i agree on artists that get flack for shit and others who dont, but i would take it further and say, why is it ok for janet and madonna to do almost no live vocals and say Britney doing it its an issue? Thats more what im saying, Prince did a whole year of lipping to that emancipation crap, and even had pre taped parts for his band on tour NO ISSUE...

I hope I didnt come off like I was bashing you because I really do enjoy reading your posts on the org but I did not quite understand your point with the double standard comment when Prince, Janet, Madonna have gotten called out for miming in the past.In fact, Madonna and Janet Jackson are KNOWN for their miming.

The reason why I said Beyonce finally got caught was because Beyonce has mimed IN THE PAST more than what the general public probably knows. This has been the first time she got called out for it. My Co worker at work was exactly shocked and disappointed that Beyonce mimed as if this was her FIRST time doing it when we all know that is not true. So of course people are going to make a big deal out of it not to mention this was at Obamas Inauguration (Big Historical Event).

I also dont think the band mate was an asshole. I exactly think if anything he was being real and Im GLAD he said it.

TO MANY people in the industry kiss Beyonces ass and she has gotten comfortable and use to that to the point she feels she can do what she wants without nothing bad being said. Im glad whoever in the band came out and said "Beyonce mimed the performance" instead of giving a political correct response like "Beyonce did a great job" when thats bullshit. He didnt even rag her, he defended why she did it but still was honest.

People need to stop bullshitting when it comes to Beyonce and keep it real.

She mimed and there was no excuse for it, period

Its not the end of the world to me and I agree with you that its not really a story because so many singers in the industry do it but you have to realize something, when you are a media darling, ANYTHING negative or bad that comes out about you is going to be exploited.

The worm is beginning to turn (because she overexposes herself) and I see this year Beyonce is going to have to learn a couple of things, the hard way. She wants to be under a microscope 24/7 but with that comes the vultures and its not always peaches and cream. Most celebrities try to stay out of the limelight when they dont have to but she loves it.... well.. there is a price with that.

Aretha Franklin: "When I heard that I just really cracked up. I thought it was really funny, but she did a beautiful job with the pre-record ... next time I'll probably do the same."

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Vanilli said:

mjscarousal said:

lastdecember said:

well first thing again im not defending her past work etc..i was on this forum calling her out for being a BAD singer, good voice but doesnt know how to sing, so im far from her defense attorney. HOWEVER the problem i have is saying "she got caught", where and how? getting caught means you said you were doing something and werent doing it, if she went on tv and said "and now im 100% live" and did that shit, and some wack ass member of a marching band told on her than id said oh she got caught, but to me there is no story here, and the reason there is one is because some no name in a band told this, who cares, and he or she should be ashamed to try and take away from OBAMA's day with this bulllshit, hopefully that little person will get some real exposure as an asshole. And i agree on artists that get flack for shit and others who dont, but i would take it further and say, why is it ok for janet and madonna to do almost no live vocals and say Britney doing it its an issue? Thats more what im saying, Prince did a whole year of lipping to that emancipation crap, and even had pre taped parts for his band on tour NO ISSUE...

I hope I didnt come off like I was bashing you because I really do enjoy reading your posts on the org but I did not quite understand your point with the double standard comment when Prince, Janet, Madonna have gotten called out for miming in the past.In fact, Madonna and Janet Jackson are KNOWN for their miming.

The reason why I said Beyonce finally got caught was because Beyonce has mimed IN THE PAST more than what the general public probably knows. This has been the first time she got called out for it. My Co worker at work was exactly shocked and disappointed that Beyonce mimed as if this was her FIRST time doing it when we all know that is not true. So of course people are going to make a big deal out of it not to mention this was at Obamas Inauguration (Big Historical Event).

I also dont think the band mate was an asshole. I exactly think if anything he was being real and Im GLAD he said it.

TO MANY people in the industry kiss Beyonces ass and she has gotten comfortable and use to that to the point she feels she can do what she wants without nothing bad being said. Im glad whoever in the band came out and said "Beyonce mimed the performance" instead of giving a political correct response like "Beyonce did a great job" when thats bullshit. He didnt even rag her, he defended why she did it but still was honest.

People need to stop bullshitting when it comes to Beyonce and keep it real.

She mimed and there was no excuse for it, period

Its not the end of the world to me and I agree with you that its not really a story because so many singers in the industry do it but you have to realize something, when you are a media darling, ANYTHING negative or bad that comes out about you is going to be exploited.

The worm is beginning to turn (because she overexposes herself) and I see this year Beyonce is going to have to learn a couple of things, the hard way. She wants to be under a microscope 24/7 but with that comes the vultures and its not always peaches and cream. Most celebrities try to stay out of the limelight when they dont have to but she loves it.... well.. there is a price with that.

Another EXCELLENT post by mjscarousal. You speakin the truth! Totally agree w/everything you said

SoulAlive said:

I can't believe that I'm gonna defend Beyonce. but I understand why she chose to lip-sync.For this type of performance,it had to be PERFECT.If she had made any mistakes (forgot the lyrics,hit a bad note,etc),she would have gotten tremendous criticism,especially in this YouTube era. She played it safe and I can't blame her.

I would agree with you if it was anyone else but this is a little tired ass shit hopper. She deserves to make mistakes and get criticised for it. She was out of her league being there in the first place. She should have been in her studio playing with her Fisher Price instruments.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

Then she should have not performed if she couldn't hit the notes live. I usually roll my eyes when people on here go in on her like she killed their cat but nah that was messed up Bey.

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Shit Aretha Louise sung in the fucking cold during the first inauguration...

And Prince sang in the pouring down rain at the Super Bowl.

NaughtyKitty said:

Aretha Franklin 'Really Laughed' About Beyonce Lip-Sync Controversy

Aretha is so shady. No one shades like this heffa.

Seems to be fitting and not surprising.

musicjunky318 said:

Aretha is so shady. No one shades like this heffa.

Aretha put her on blast. You know you wanna laugh.

I think the best way for Beyonce to address this controversy is to hold a live televised press conference...where she plays a recording of her addressing the controversy, while lip syncing to it!

The only thing Tina Turner has over Beyonce is talent.

The whole media is slamming Beyonce now. It's a beautiful thing. The org has been vindicated once again.

uPtoWnNY said:

The only thing Tina Turner has over Beyonce is talent.

And Tina isn't a shit hopper either. That makes a HUGE difference.

NaughtyKitty said:

I think the best way for Beyonce to address this controversy is to hold a live televised press conference...where she plays a recording of her addressing the controversy, while lip syncing to it!

!!!

I'd surely die from laughter if that were to happen.

RnBAmbassador said:

Add Beyonce` Knowles Carter to the history books as she sings the National Anthem for President Obama's Inauguration on Jan. 21st. Also on the bill are James Taylor and Kelly Clarkson.

Beyonce` will also be the Super Bowl's halftime entertainment.

Exposure to the max and I don't mean pads LOL

I beg to differ.

vainandy said:

uPtoWnNY said:

The only thing Tina Turner has over Beyonce is talent.

And Tina isn't a shit hopper either. That makes a HUGE difference.

Also: shittier lyrics, children's choruses, Anglophilia (she's more british than madonna), professional victimhood, a higher growl to screech ratio, and better blonde wigs.

Mintchip said:

vainandy said:

And Tina isn't a shit hopper either. That makes a HUGE difference.

Also: shittier lyrics, children's choruses, Anglophilia (she's more british than madonna), professional victimhood, a higher growl to screech ratio, and better blonde wigs.

Honey, it wouldn't matter if Tina sung like a cat howling on a fence. Being a shit hopper trumps all that and immediately makes someone like Beyonce not even worthy of having a recording contract if the music business was still in the business of making "music". If she ain't capable of getting off, then she needs to get out. In other words, either throwdown or sit down.

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vainandy said:

Mintchip said:

Also: shittier lyrics, children's choruses, Anglophilia (she's more british than madonna), professional victimhood, a higher growl to screech ratio, and better blonde wigs.

Honey, it wouldn't matter if Tina sung like a cat howling on a fence. Being a shit hopper trumps all that and immediately makes someone like Beyonce not even worthy of having a recording contract if the music business was still in the business of making "music". If she ain't capable of getting off, then she needs to get out. In other words, either throwdown or sit down.

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Vainandy do not bother going back and forth with that stan, it is not worth it

As soon as that delusional poster said that Beyonce was equal to Janet, Madonna, Tina and so forth I immediately stopped reading the post.

mjscarousal said:

vainandy said:

Honey, it wouldn't matter if Tina sung like a cat howling on a fence. Being a shit hopper trumps all that and immediately makes someone like Beyonce not even worthy of having a recording contract if the music business was still in the business of making "music". If she ain't capable of getting off, then she needs to get out. In other words, either throwdown or sit down.

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Vainandy do not bother going back and forth with that stan, it is not worth it

As soon as that delusional poster said that Beyonce was equal to Janet, Madonna, Tina and so forth I immediately stopped reading the post.

Oh honey, I'm gonna enjoy this little fun while it lasts. We get to have sooooooo little fun these days. The media is always so busy praising these tired asses and it's not often that we get to see the media bash these little shit hoppers on such a large scale level. I feel like jacking off.

I wish i could say the lip sycning thing is a big deal, but for me it ain't. Objectively speaking, when you sing in cold temperatures, it constricts your vocal chords and it is very difficult to get the area around your larynx acclimated to the cold. Knowing how narcissistic this young lady is in terms of the image she wants to project for her legacy as an "icon" (remember y'all, she is going to do all she can to be one whether we like it or not ), there is no way she is going to expose herself to the elements as she did and chance that she would make even the tiniest slip-up. At the end of the day, this really just strikes me as a vanity issue to make sure she had the perfect video tape for her Beyonce shrine archive room in her New York offices vs. not actually being able to sing the song. Bless her heart.

Ottensen said:

I wish i could say the lip sycning thing is a big deal, but for me it ain't. Objectively speaking, when you sing in cold temperatures, it constricts your vocal chords and it is very difficult to get the area around your larynx acclimated to the cold. Knowing how narcissistic this young lady is in terms of the image she wants to project for her legacy as an "icon" (remember y'all, she is going to do all she can to be one whether we like it or not ), there is no way she is going to expose herself to the elements as she did and chance that she would make even the tiniest slip-up. At the end of the day, this really just strikes me as a vanity issue to make sure she had the perfect video tape for her Beyonce shrine archive room in her New York offices vs. not actually being able to sing the song. Bless her heart.

I didn't think of it like that but you're right!

Ottensen said:

I wish i could say the lip sycning thing is a big deal, but for me it ain't. Objectively speaking, when you sing in cold temperatures, it constricts your vocal chords and it is very difficult to get the area around your larynx acclimated to the cold. Knowing how narcissistic this young lady is in terms of the image she wants to project for her legacy as an "icon" (remember y'all, she is going to do all she can to be one whether we like it or not ), there is no way she is going to expose herself to the elements as she did and chance that she would make even the tiniest slip-up. At the end of the day, this really just strikes me as a vanity issue to make sure she had the perfect video tape for her Beyonce shrine archive room in her New York offices vs. not actually being able to sing the song. Bless her heart.

But a slip-up or a mistake would have been fun. It would have definitely been more entertaining than the way she did it. At least we would have had comedy instead of boredom.

uPtoWnNY said:

The only thing Tina Turner has over Beyonce is talent.

That and real female empowerment. I find it so funny that Beyonce thinks she is Wonder Woman with all of her female empowerment BS and songs but it is all a facade.

Has she ever endured abuse like Tina Turner.

Hmm...the media seems to be itching to knock her now. I can only imagine if something real juicy came out about her.

Maybe she's getting her nigga-wake-up-call sooner than I thought.

vainandy said:

neoretro7 said: