mookie said:

Analyst said:

Honestly? Yeah, I am...your point is?

It just pisses me off every time I see people shitting on these folks like they were actually there living with them and in Michael's head to be able to say for sure how he felt about his own family and what went on between all of them.

It's just the height of lunacy for fans to even be sitting around talking as much shit about these people as they do. I always want to scream at you people, "Did it ever occur to you that maybe you don't know every goddamn thing there is to know in order to make a character judgment on these people...just because you bought Thriller and thought Dangerous was cool?".

Shit like this is why I avoid most Michael Jackson fans like the plague. I have one other friend who is an MJ fan too and she avoids dealing with MJ fan-world too, and we sit around and laugh at you guys.

Why is it such a crime for MJ fans to call these people out? You say you laugh at MJ fans, but I laugh and scratch my head at you defenders beause I don't understand the wimpiness i'm seeing from you guys. This family does nothing for MJ and his legacy, but we're supposed to support them anyway?

mjscarousal said:

Analyst said:

Honestly? Yeah, I am...your point is?

It just pisses me off every time I see people shitting on these folks like they were actually there living with them and in Michael's head to be able to say for sure how he felt about his own family and what went on between all of them.

It's just the height of lunacy for fans to even be sitting around talking as much shit about these people as they do. I always want to scream at you people, "Did it ever occur to you that maybe you don't know every goddamn thing there is to know in order to make a character judgment on these people...just because you bought Thriller and thought Dangerous was cool?".

Shit like this is why I avoid most Michael Jackson fans like the plague. I have one other friend who is an MJ fan too and she avoids dealing with MJ fan-world too, and we sit around and laugh at you guys.

This shit aint rocket science and nobody is making this up

The family is the one that has constantly used Michael for money and exploited his own children since his passing even before his passing but it is just more bizarre since he is not here to defend himself and his children (thats why the family is doing it so publicly now).. the fans and people at large are sick of it. Let the man rest in peace!!! Leave the Estate as he wrote it in HIS WILL.

Aint nobody making this up.. You are naive.. you think we sit here and make up these stories???? The evidence is ALL in THEIR ACTIONS and what they have done!!!!

And there is NOTHING wrong with folks expressing their opinions on what THEY HAVE DONE.. this IS a message board and if you dont give a fuck about Michael and it pisses you off that he has fans that care about his legacy than stay out of his threads... simple as that

THANK YOU! Why do stupid people insist on coming up in here only to bash others and stir up bs--calling MJ fans stupid but only managing to make themselves look like ignorant little whiny punks?

mookie said:

Eddie Murphy posted this pic on his Facebook today

hott!

SONY / ATV MUSIC PUBLISHING SIGNS EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENT TO REPRESENT MIJAC MUSIC CATALOG
Monday, 20 August 2012 14:09

NEW YORK —
Sony/ATV Music Publishing announced today that the company has entered into a worldwide administration agreement to represent Michael Jackson’s iconic Mijac Music catalog. Founded by Michael Jackson in 1980 as his personal publishing company, Mijac Music grew to include – in addition to all of his own incredible songs – the classic Sly and the Family Stone catalog, songs by the legendary Philadelphia soul team of Kenneth Gamble and Leon Huff as well as songs made famous by other artists such as Ray Charles, Elvis Presley and Aretha Franklin.

Of the announcement, Martin Bandier, Chairman and CEO of Sony/ATV said, “We are thrilled that the Estate of Michael Jackson has entrusted us with this incredible catalog of songs, and everyone at Sony/ATV looks forward to finding innovative ways to use these songs, while protecting their legacy.”

Commenting on the deal, John Branca and John McClain, co-executors of the Estate of Michael Jacksonremarked, “Michael’s songs in the Mijac Music catalog not only showcase his greatness as a performer but also his creative genius as a songwriter. We are excited that the company Michael helped found, Sony/ATV Music Publishing, and in which his Estate remains a 50% partner, will represent these amazing songs along with a rich collection of other music recorded by some of our greatest popular artists.”

The agreement comes in advance of the September 18 release of BAD25, a new two-disc-package and DVD that marks the 25th anniversary of Michael’s landmark BAD album.

The Mijac catalog includes all of the songs written by the legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, including “Another Part Of Me,” “Bad,” “Beat It,” “Billie Jean,” “Black or White,” “Can You Feel It,” “Dangerous,” “Dirty Diana,” “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough,” “Earth Song,” “Heal the World,” “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You,” “Jam,” “Scream,” “Smooth Criminal,” “They Don’t Care About Us,” “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’,” “The Way You Make Me Feel” and “We Are The World.”

Also included in the catalog are some of the most iconic songs in rock, pop and soul music history, including "Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now," “After Midnight,” “Ease on Down the Road,” “Great Balls of Fire,” "(Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher," “I Got A Woman,” “If You Don’t Know Me By Now,” “Love Train,” “Mr. Bojangles,” “People Get Ready,” “Runaround Sue,” “Shake, Rattle and Roll,” “Sixteen Candles,” “The Wanderer”, “What’d I Say,” “When a Man Loves a Woman” and “You Don’t Know Me”. Of special note the catalog includes the songs made famous by Rock and Roll Hall of Fame artist Sly and the Family Stone, including such hits as “Dance To the Music,” “Everybody is a Star,” “Everyday People,” “Family Affair,” “Hot Fun in the Summertime,” “If You Want Me To Stay,” “Sing a Simple Song,” “Stand” and “Thank You.”

About Sony/ATV Music Publishing
Sony/ATV Music Publishing, established in 1995 as a joint venture between Sony and Michael Jackson, is the world’s leading music publisher. Together with EMI Music Publishing, Leiber Stoller, Mijac Music, Motown and the Famous Music catalogs, Sony/ATV owns or administers more than 2 million copyrights, including some of the best known songs ever written. Sony/ATV’s catalog includes “New York, New York,” “All You Need Is Love,” “You’ve Got a Friend,” “Moon River,” “Jailhouse Rock,” “The Mission Impossible Theme,” “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough,” “Over the Rainbow,” “Stand By Me,” “I Heard It Through the Grapevine” and “Singin’ in the Rain.” In addition, Sony/ATV represents the copyrights of such legendary artists as The Beatles, Leonard Cohen, Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Marvin Gaye, Michael Jackson, Carole King, Kraftwerk, Joni Mitchell, Willie Nelson, Roy Orbison, Queen, The Rolling Stones, Richie Sambora, Sting, Wyclef Jean, Hank Williams and Stevie Wonder, among others. Its ever-growing list of chart-topping artists, writers and producers includes Beyoncé, Fall Out Boy, Jay-Z, Jessie J, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Lady Antebellum, Lady Gaga, John Mayer, P!nk, RedOne, Shakira, Ed Sheeran, Stargate, Taylor Swift and Kanye West.


SONY / ATV MUSIC PUBLISHING SIGNS EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENT TO REPRESENT MIJAC MUSIC CATALO - The Michael Jackson Community Fan Club

Statement from John Branca

http://t.co/RyfWtJlZ

I understand that you are being asked a lot of questions about Mijac.

Yes, there is a matching right that Michael granted to Sony/ATV but they only get to administer the catalog for a limited term AND only if they agree to unprecedented favorable terms. We will not relinquish ultimate control and ownership to anyone. We have favorably refinanced the loans on Mijac which will be paid off and the catalog WILL absolutely be passed to Michael's children as long as we have anything to say about it.

Sony/ATV is a great company and the Estate owns half of it but no one, not even Sony/ATV, will ever own Mijac while John McClain and I remain in charge.

The current Sony team is the one Michael chose to work with on the Thriller 25 release and they are good partners. As stated in the recent court filings, they worked with us to refinance the burdensome debt that had been placed on Michael's interest in Sony/ATV to very favorable terms, an important achievement which insures that Mijac and Michael’s masters remain secure for the benefit of Michael's children for years to come.

I would appreciate your sharing this with the fans that are asking questions.

Thanks – John

John Branca
Co-Executor
The Estate Of Michael Jackson

Michael (even though he's in heaven) is the ultimate music mogel. His estate owns 50% of SONY ATV, 100% MIJAC and 19 % EMI publishing

NaughtyKitty said:

Why did I just now get an email from MichaelJackson.com about the Bad 25 tracklist being revealed? It was revealed over a week ago..

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Why did I just now get an email from MichaelJackson.com about the Bad 25 tracklist being revealed? It was revealed over a week ago..

LOL I just got the same email! I was like but this is old news, y'all are late with this email!

I don't know if this has already been discussed,but I heard a new remix of the song "Bad" featuring Pitbull.It was posted on Facebook yesterday....on one of the numerous music pages that I visit have you guys heard it?

yay or nay?

R.I.P. Pitbull, you sucked and now you're done!

Once again, the Estate/Sony try too hard to make Michael Jackson "cool" with the younger generation. Just like they did with the fake Cascio songs. They really don't get it.

Derek1984 said:

Once again, the Estate/Sony try too hard to make Michael Jackson "cool" with the younger generation. Just like they did with the fake Cascio songs. They really don't get it.

Shitbull needs to be dangled in Berlin for rapping R.I.P.

Derek1984 said:

Once again, the Estate/Sony try too hard to make Michael Jackson "cool" with the younger generation. Just like they did with the fake Cascio songs. They really don't get it.

but let's be honest...if Michael were still alive,he would probably do a song with Pitbull anyway He was always working with "hot" artists and producers.

SoulAlive said:

Derek1984 said:

Once again, the Estate/Sony try too hard to make Michael Jackson "cool" with the younger generation. Just like they did with the fake Cascio songs. They really don't get it.

but let's be honest...if Michael were still alive,he would probably do a song with Pitbull anyway He was always working with "hot" artists and producers.

Nope, not even MJ would work with shitbull, plus janet already did it and she sounds horrible on that song.

alphastreet said:

Derek1984 said:

Once again, the Estate/Sony try too hard to make Michael Jackson "cool" with the younger generation. Just like they did with the fake Cascio songs. They really don't get it.

Shitbull needs to be dangled in Berlin for rapping R.I.P.

Damn girl tell us how you really feel

SoulAlive said:

yay or nay?

I checked this one over a week back and this is how I felt....

The Box set is nice but WHY do they keep messing up Michaels songs with this garbage?

Just cater to the REAL fans....

mjscarousal said:

The Box set is nice but WHY do they keep messing up Michaels songs with this garbage?

Just cater to the REAL fans....

I know right. Sony cheats us again and again. And my beef is this, they don't do it with Bruce, Barbra, Neil, Miles, or Elvis. Michael made Sony what it is today and saved them from going over. I don't know what the deal was with MJ when he was living or the Estate, but something's going on.

SoulAlive said:

I don't know if this has already been discussed,but I heard a new remix of the song "Bad" featuring Pitbull.It was posted on Facebook yesterday....on one of the numerous music pages that I visit have you guys heard it?

Nope. Staying away from it. I already know that I will hate it.

With the pre-orders for Bad 25, does anyone know if the money is taken straight away? Or does the money only get taken from the account when the product ships?

I want to preorder the deluxe edition, but I don't want it to debit the money right now... I have a payday coming up just before the release date.

SoulAlive said:

yay or nay?

I actually think the whole idea of new remixes is insulting to the album. Otherwise, Bad 25 looks like a great set, but it should include only music that was made during the Bad era.. including the original dance remixes would've been fine, but these new remixes just cheapen the whole set to me (I'll still be buying it anyway..) but they should have used that space for other Bad-era tracks, even if it was just other previously released tracks.

if michael where still alive i dont believe he would have done a remix with pitbull as someone else mentioned. yes, michael was interested in working but i feel like if he were to do remixes or songs with current artist, it would be people like Lady Gaga, Adam Levine, Beyonce, Adele maybe..idk.. not pitbull... i personally dont like remixes, but i feel like if he wanted to include remixes it would be much better than pitbull..

even michael jackson didn't appreciate the ideas of remixes when he was alive...he never liked the remixes of BOTDF......FUCK ALL THE REMIXES...why do i listen to remixes when i have the original songs...

seeingvoices12 said:

even michael jackson didn't appreciate the ideas of remixes when he was alive...he never liked the remixes of BOTDF......FUCK ALL THE REMIXES...why do i listen to remixes when i have the original songs...

exactly. i really dont like remixes for the most part because most of the time they are just terrible, there is some very good MJ remixes though..(videos below) i wish they took this kind of remix approach for bad25

New York, NY – Epic/Legacy Recordings in collaboration with the Estate of Michael Jackson today announced the highly anticipated track listing for the September 18^th release of Michael Jackson BAD25 that celebrates the legendary album and record breaking BAD tour. Featured in the deluxe package, are three CDs, two collectible booklets, and the first ever authorized DVD release of a concert from the record breaking BAD World Tour – the July 16, 1988 sold out Wembley Stadium show in London.

Pre-Order Now

Filled with previously re-mastered versions of iconic hits and un-released recordings from the King Of Pop, the BAD25 anniversary deluxe edition CDs and DVD will include the following:

CD one features re-mastered versions of Michael's biggest hits on the original BAD album, including, "Smooth Criminal," "Man In The Mirror," “Bad,” “Another Part of Me,” “The Way You Make Me Feel,” and "Dirty Diana" arranged in the same sequence as they appeared on the original album released 25 years ago. “Leave Me Alone” was added to the album as a bonus track following its initial release and has been included on the disc.

CD two offers fans a rare listen to thirteen additional tracks, 6 of which are previously unreleased demo recordings created at Michael’s personal studio built at his then-home on Hayvenhurst Avenue in Encino, California. Also included are all three bonus tracks from the 2001 expanded edition of BAD, the previously un-released French version of Michael performing the classic, “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You,” a high power version of “Speed Demon” remixed by Nero and the brand new remix of “Bad” worked on as an electrifying collaboration between Pitbull and Dutch DJ Afrojack.

Recordings included in this package reflect the songs and spirit of Michael Jackson’s artistry during BAD’s recording sessions and have been selected to show the different stages of how Michael’s songwriting and recording genius took shape. Some tracks are so complete that any other artist but Michael Jackson – who worked tirelessly to make sure his songs reflected his vision – might consider them finished tracks. Others are less complete but offer insight into Michael’s creative process in its various stages. Included is the demo, “Al Capone,” an early incarnation of what ultimately became “Smooth Criminal,” “Don’t Be Messin’ Around,” an example of a more complete demo, and a song initially titled, “Song Groove.” That song later became known as “Abortion Papers” which according to Michael’s own records, he spent considerable time in weighing how best to thoughtfully address something that was, and remains, a very personal and sensitive issue.

A true highlight of the package is CD three and the DVD – the never seen before live concert on DVD and its accompanying music CD of Michael’s legendary July 16, 1988 concert at Wembley Stadium. The concert is not a compilation of performances, but rather one complete show, exactly as Michael performed it for Prince Charles, Princess Diana and the 72,000 fans who were in the audience for that night’s sold out show. This show was one of the seven record-breaking nights played at the venue attended by more than half a million people – three times that many people tried to purchase tickets. The DVD was sourced from Michael Jackson’s personal VHS copy of the performance as shown on the JumboTrons during the concert. This footage was only recently unearthed and is the only known copy of the show to exist. The visuals have now been restored and the audio quality enhanced so that fans can share in the excitement of that famous night in 5.1 surround sound taken from the original multitrack recordings made that night.

In addition to the complete Wembley Show, the DVD will also contain “The Way You Make Me Feel” from Michael’s July 15^th performance at Wembley Stadium. This is the only song not performed on July 16^th due to the late start of that night’s show. Also included are the thrilling early performances of “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” and “Bad” from the Yokohama Stadium performance in September of 1987 during the first leg of the BAD World Tour.

BAD25 – COMPLETE TRACKLISTING:

DELUXE BOX TRACK LISTING

CD ONE – Original Album

1. Bad
2. The Way You Make Me Feel
3. Speed Demon
4. Liberian Girl
5. Just Good Friends
6. Another Part Of Me
7. Man In The Mirror
8. I Just Can’t Stop Lovin’ You
9. Dirty Diana
10. Smooth Criminal
11. Leave Me Alone

CD TWO – Bonus Tracks, Unreleased Tracks, Demos, Remixes

1. Don’t Be Messin’ Around
2. I’m So Blue
3. Song Groove (A/K/A Abortion Papers)
4. Free
5. Price Of Fame
6. Al Capone
7. Streetwalker
8. Fly Away
9. Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu (I Just Can't Stop Loving You, Spanish Version)
10. Je Ne Veux Pas La Fin De Nous (I Just Can't Stop Loving You, French Version)
11. Bad (REMIX BY AFROJACK FEATURING PITBULL - DJ BUDDHA EDIT)
12. Speed Demon (REMIX BY NERO)
13. Bad (REMIX BY AFROJACK - CLUB MIX)

CD THREE – CD Live at Wembley Stadium July 16, 1988

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. This Place Hotel
3. Another Part Of Me
4. I Just Can't Stop Loving You
5. She's Out Of My Life
6. I Want You Back / The Love You Save / I'll Be There
7. Rock With You
8. Human Nature
9. Smooth Criminal
10. Dirty Diana
11. Thriller
12. Working Day And Night
13. Beat It
14. Billie Jean
15. Bad
16. Man In The Mirror

DVD – DVD Live at Wembley Stadium July 16, 1988

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. This Place Hotel
3. Another Part Of Me
4. I Just Can't Stop Loving You
5. She's Out Of My Life
6. I Want You Back / The Love You Save / I'll Be There
7. Rock With You
8. Human Nature
9. Smooth Criminal
10. Dirty Diana
11. Thriller
12. Bad Groove (the Band Jam section)
13. Working Day And Night
14. Beat It
15. Billie Jean
16. Bad
17. Man In The Mirror (Encore)

And Bonus Tracks Include:

1. The Way You Make Me Feel (Performed at Wembley the previous night, July 15, 1988)
2. I Just Can’t Stop Loving You/Bad (Performed at Yokohama Stadium, September, 1987)

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You're giving Michael too much credit here. He oversaw those godawful remixes for Thriller 25. What makes you think he'd have any more insight for Bad 25?

[Edited 8/21/12 22:58pm]

Ellie said:

You're giving Michael too much credit here. He oversaw those godawful remixes for Thriller 25.

I agree, and I think the Bad 25 tracklist would have been far worse if Michael was still alive. Instead of outtakes and a live cd/dvd, we'd just have a bunch of remixes/duets with Justin Bieber and the like.

smoothcriminal12 said:

New York, NY – Epic/Legacy Recordings in collaboration with the Estate of Michael Jackson today announced the highly anticipated track listing for the September 18^th release of Michael Jackson BAD25 that celebrates the legendary album and record breaking BAD tour. Featured in the deluxe package, are three CDs, two collectible booklets, and the first ever authorized DVD release of a concert from the record breaking BAD World Tour – the July 16, 1988 sold out Wembley Stadium show in London.[...]

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