So can we get a concert DVD from Heaven?

MJ

Donna Summer

Whitney

2Pac

Elvis

Frank Sinatra

John Lennon

Kurt Cobain

Hendricks

Just saying'

[Edited 5/17/12 19:04pm]

Vanilli said:

So can we get a concert DVD from Heaven?

MJ

Donna Summer

Whitney

2Pac

Elvis

Frank Sinatra

John Lennon

Kurt Cobain

Hendricks

Just saying'

[Edited 5/17/12 19:04pm]

That would be off the hook.

But hey, with all these legands dropping off the face of the Earth...makes you almsot want front row seats sometimes

With BAD 25 (and even the Jacksons goin' on tour) on the horizon, do y'all see Motown doin' what they usually do best and releasing material around the time of the Epic release? They've been doin' this since the brothers jumped ship to CBS/Epic in 76.

76- Motown's Joyful Jukebox Music released around thier debut record

79- Boogie released around Destiny (titled Boogie after their hit "Blame it on the Boogie" to fool fans into buying that record.)

81- One Day On Your Life to cash off the success the still popular Off The Wall

84- Farewell My Summer Love with the Jacksons Victory LP and Tour

87- Original Soul of MJ around the Bad release

95- Soulsation! with HIStory

01- J5 2fers around Invincible

09- Unreleased Masters around This Is It

Hopefully we see something from Motown, hopefully the Unreleased Master Part 2 Harry W talked about last year or a Lost and Found release. Hell, maybe Epic drops a Jacksons release to correspond with the brothers goin on tour.

WaterInYourBath said:

Dren5 said:

*waiting for everybody to realize that Paris is a TEENager*

You're stating the obvious. That's why she needs to put her mask back on.

When she's 18, then she can do all of this media crap for no reason. I mean, seriously, someone tell me: Did Lisa Marie Presley ever appear in interviews on TV or in magazines before she became an adult?

I don't think it's all that obvious, when I'm watching a thread full of adults slam this kid and basically imply that she's an attention whore.

Even if that were true, she's a teenager. Teenagers kinda can't be held totally responsible for that they do during that period. It's like people are passing judgment on and expecting a standard of behavior that is natural for an adult, from someone who is just a kid.

Basically I'm saying, give her some slack.

As as far as LMP...that's different. Maybe she didn't want it, or her mom wouldn't let her, or both. It's weird to me that you're expecting every kid and every parent/caretaker to be the same or operate in the same manner.

WaterInYourBath said:

kibbles said:

it took me a minute to understand, but i think the words you're looking for are "faulting" and "fault", respectively.

paris is outspoken, that's why it's hard for me to believe that she can't open her mouth to show some respect for her father. they can't make her do this - and look so confident about doing it - if she didn't want to do it in the first place. prince was at that so-called tribute concert, and other things, but he seems to know where to draw the line and say 'no, i'm not sitting down with this hypocritical bitch oprah'. i never hear about him 'tweeting' like crazy, and posting pix of himself.

For real. It's easy to say "no" when you want to. Her mother is not around, and, like you implied, Mrs. Jackson is not forcing this little girl to go on television to promote some movie career when she's not even in high school yet. Plus, she has a surprisingly old demeanor anyway. She doesn't dress or act 14, but more like 24, so I bet Mrs. Jackson has no control over Paris' choices either way. What's worse is that Paris doesn't physically look that young either (so she could easily do things she shouldn't even have access to) and it's like she wants to be that way, instead of appreciating her time as a young child.

This is one aspect of MJ's tragedy that challenges hoax theories: If Michael were really around somewhere, he wouldn't be allowing any of this early exposure to take place with his daughter.

I think she dresses very much like a teenager. I don´t know if by 24 you apply that she´s dressing too sexy, but I don´t think so. She keeps on wearing trainers, jeans and tops.

I see so many MJ mannerisms in Blanket.

Dren5 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

You're stating the obvious. That's why she needs to put her mask back on.

When she's 18, then she can do all of this media crap for no reason. I mean, seriously, someone tell me: Did Lisa Marie Presley ever appear in interviews on TV or in magazines before she became an adult?

I don't think it's all that obvious, when I'm watching a thread full of adults slam this kid and basically imply that she's an attention whore.

Even if that were true, she's a teenager. Teenagers kinda can't be held totally responsible for that they do during that period. It's like people are passing judgment on and expecting a standard of behavior that is natural for an adult, from someone who is just a kid.

Basically I'm saying, give her some slack.

As as far as LMP...that's different. Maybe she didn't want it, or her mom wouldn't let her, or both. It's weird to me that you're expecting every kid and every parent/caretaker to be the same or operate in the same manner.

At least on TV and on Twitter, she doesn't act the way she was raised, which is all people are questioning. Michael's, in your words, "standard of behavior," for example, was evident, and based on privacy and discretion. So, again, Paris wouldn't even be accessible in public like this if he were present. So why go against that now, craving to be in a business that destroyed her father? That's the overall point, regardless of her age. I mean, Blanket seems to know at least what not to do, and he's even younger.

dag said:

WaterInYourBath said:

For real. It's easy to say "no" when you want to. Her mother is not around, and, like you implied, Mrs. Jackson is not forcing this little girl to go on television to promote some movie career when she's not even in high school yet. Plus, she has a surprisingly old demeanor anyway. She doesn't dress or act 14, but more like 24, so I bet Mrs. Jackson has no control over Paris' choices either way. What's worse is that Paris doesn't physically look that young either (so she could easily do things she shouldn't even have access to) and it's like she wants to be that way, instead of appreciating her time as a young child.

This is one aspect of MJ's tragedy that challenges hoax theories: If Michael were really around somewhere, he wouldn't be allowing any of this early exposure to take place with his daughter.

I think she dresses very much like a teenager. I don´t know if by 24 you apply that she´s dressing too sexy, but I don´t think so. She keeps on wearing trainers, jeans and tops.

No, I don't mean she dresses in a revealing manner, but just, older. Maybe not 24, but she appears to be no less than 18-20 to me. I think it's the heavy eyeliner, more than the clothes.

WaterInYourBath said:

Dren5 said:

I don't think it's all that obvious, when I'm watching a thread full of adults slam this kid and basically imply that she's an attention whore.

Even if that were true, she's a teenager. Teenagers kinda can't be held totally responsible for that they do during that period. It's like people are passing judgment on and expecting a standard of behavior that is natural for an adult, from someone who is just a kid.

Basically I'm saying, give her some slack.

As as far as LMP...that's different. Maybe she didn't want it, or her mom wouldn't let her, or both. It's weird to me that you're expecting every kid and every parent/caretaker to be the same or operate in the same manner.

At least on TV and on Twitter, she doesn't act the way she was raised, which is all people are questioning. Michael's, in your words, "standard of behavior," for example, was evident, and based on privacy and discretion. So, again, Paris wouldn't even be accessible in public like this if he were present. So why go against that now, craving to be in a business that destroyed her father? That's the overall point, regardless of her age. I mean, Blanket seems to know at least what not to do, and he's even younger.

What is she doing on Twitter that's so horrible? She Tweets alot...and? Teenage girls...talk alot. We all know this shit.

And most teenagers like to show out and 'be seen' alot, that's pretty much typical of the age group. What I'm seeing out of her is pretty standard harmless teenage behavior, and actually pretty tame shit now that I think about it, compared to some of the more extreme shit I've seen other teenagers and young adults do (posting pics of themselves in their underwear online).

And what 'access'? You make it sound like she's constantly on tv or something. She's done like a couple interviews.

It's weird to me the way some MJ fans have decided they want to start attacking his kids.

WaterInYourBath said:

dag said:

I think she dresses very much like a teenager. I don´t know if by 24 you apply that she´s dressing too sexy, but I don´t think so. She keeps on wearing trainers, jeans and tops.

No, I don't mean she dresses in a revealing manner, but just, older. Maybe not 24, but she appears to be no less than 18-20 to me. I think it's the heavy eyeliner, more than the clothes.

I am a teacher and most of the girls her age wear the same make-up.

dag said:

WaterInYourBath said:

No, I don't mean she dresses in a revealing manner, but just, older. Maybe not 24, but she appears to be no less than 18-20 to me. I think it's the heavy eyeliner, more than the clothes.

I am a teacher and most of the girls her age wear the same make-up.

That might be true, and I'm young myself however when you're 14 you dont really think about what you're doing, but later on you regret it. I mean those pictures she posted on instagram of herself with a bikini and with her friends infront of the mirror, are not "bad" pictures but since she's the daugther of the most famous guy on the planet, it's not really "alright", not yet (just look what mediatakeout.com wrote about it). Also Madonna didnt even let Lourdes put on clothes like that when she was the same age, she didnt even allow her to fix her eyebrows untill she turned 16. Even Katherine said in that interview with Pierce, that she was 50 /50 about the whole situation of her wanting to be famous/actress, and that Michael would probably not have wanted that to happen so soon. Janet is also very much against Paris going in to the industry this young.

I think that she should be allowed to do whatever she wants too, but she needs to be aware that not everyone going to see it the way she does. I'm wishing her the best, but she'll never get the type of fame Michael had, it's just impossible and I hope when she realizes this she wont get depressed.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

One song "Don't Be Messin" is better than none. Not to mention, its only for the single. We don't know the tracklist for Bad 25. Like someone said, they may release an outtake for all the singles.

I'm excited about it, just want to know which version it is tho, I really want to hear Michael playing the piano like Bruce mentioned he did.... We'll just wait and see... It cant be the only thing they do tho?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

Ya'll probably know this, but the song Night Time Lover (originally called Fire Is The feeling, written in the late 70s) was produced by Mike and co-written with La Toya for Donna Summer, but it never happened because they were all busy at the time... It's a shame she never recorded it because it would have probably been a big hit, had she sung it.

GoldDolphin said:

dag said:

I am a teacher and most of the girls her age wear the same make-up.

That might be true, and I'm young myself however when you're 14 you dont really think about what you're doing, but later on you regret it. I mean those pictures she posted on instagram of herself with a bikini and with her friends infront of the mirror, are not "bad" pictures but since she's the daugther of the most famous guy on the planet, it's not really "alright", not yet (just look what mediatakeout.com wrote about it). Also Madonna didnt even let Lourdes put on clothes like that when she was the same age, she didnt even allow her to fix her eyebrows untill she turned 16. Even Katherine said in that interview with Pierce, that she was 50 /50 about the whole situation of her wanting to be famous/actress, and that Michael would probably not have wanted that to happen so soon. Janet is also very much against Paris going in to the industry this young.

I think that she should be allowed to do whatever she wants too, but she needs to be aware that not everyone going to see it the way she does. I'm wishing her the best, but she'll never get the type of fame Michael had, it's just impossible and I hope when she realizes this she wont get depressed.

yep, exactly. most parents, in or out of the spotlight, wouldn't want their daughters posting pictures of themselves online. no one saw lmp or sees lourdes being allowed to act out in this way because their parents/guardians understood that there was and is so much more at stake for them, even if it is 'normal' teenage behavior. look at how lourdes' simple act of smoking a cigarette was blown up.

katherine is acting as though she has no control over the situation, either. she sat in that courtroom and heard her son on that tape, STILL aching over his lost childhood at what would become the end of his life, and even admits she knows mj wouldn't have wanted this life for his daughter so early. heaven knows, that's probably the only truthful thing that came out of that woman's mouth. yet, here she is allowing and condoning it as though she has no control over paris' decisions. obviously, mj got his 'disciplinary style' elsewhere, not from katherine.

kibbles said:

GoldDolphin said:

That might be true, and I'm young myself however when you're 14 you dont really think about what you're doing, but later on you regret it. I mean those pictures she posted on instagram of herself with a bikini and with her friends infront of the mirror, are not "bad" pictures but since she's the daugther of the most famous guy on the planet, it's not really "alright", not yet (just look what mediatakeout.com wrote about it). Also Madonna didnt even let Lourdes put on clothes like that when she was the same age, she didnt even allow her to fix her eyebrows untill she turned 16. Even Katherine said in that interview with Pierce, that she was 50 /50 about the whole situation of her wanting to be famous/actress, and that Michael would probably not have wanted that to happen so soon. Janet is also very much against Paris going in to the industry this young.

I think that she should be allowed to do whatever she wants too, but she needs to be aware that not everyone going to see it the way she does. I'm wishing her the best, but she'll never get the type of fame Michael had, it's just impossible and I hope when she realizes this she wont get depressed.

yep, exactly. most parents, in or out of the spotlight, wouldn't want their daughters posting pictures of themselves online. no one saw lmp or sees lourdes being allowed to act out in this way because their parents/guardians understood that there was and is so much more at stake for them, even if it is 'normal' teenage behavior. look at how lourdes' simple act of smoking a cigarette was blown up.

katherine is acting as though she has no control over the situation, either. she sat in that courtroom and heard her son on that tape, STILL aching over his lost childhood at what would become the end of his life, and even admits she knows mj wouldn't have wanted this life for his daughter so early. heaven knows, that's probably the only truthful thing that came out of that woman's mouth. yet, here she is allowing and condoning it as though she has no control over paris' decisions. obviously, mj got his 'disciplinary style' elsewhere, not from katherine.

I don't know if Lourdes is allowed to post on Twitter or if she post her pictures online, but she is also exposed enough - doing her clothing line, giving interviews about it (she's lucky her mother is alive and that's why journalist won't ask her these questions. I am sure if MJ was alive they wouldn't ask Paris the questions they do if Mike allowed her to talk to press to promote her film for example as Lourdes promotes her clothing line)

Obviously Lourdes' mother is still alive and she was also caught smoking and I am not sure that's a simple act for a 15 year old or how old she is. I am also not sure if posting pictures in bikini is worse than smoking. It's not like they were posing provocatively. They just took a picture after having a swim. I also wonder what would people say if Paris was caught smoking. I think it would have been even greater deal with Paris than Lourdes cause MJ had this clean image and wanted his kids to be innocent. With Lourdes, she is expected to be wild cause he mother has also been provocative. I think Lourdes even dresses edgier than Paris if you wanna compare them.

I understand your worries, guys, about her being exposed. I also think Mike wouldn't be happy about it and if I were her gardian, I wouldn't let her, but so far she seems very sensible. I wish she wasn't allowed around people like Oprah, but at the same time I don't think that this all means she is destined to become another La Toya or Paris Hilton. At 14, Paris has made more sense than Toy and Paris together in their entire lives.

[Edited 5/18/12 11:47am]

claudiax said:

I see so many MJ mannerisms in Blanket.

I see a lot of MJ's mannerism in Prince, too.

[Edited 5/18/12 11:18am]

dag said:

I don't know if Lourdes is allowed to post on Twitter or if she post her pictures online, but she is also exposed enough - doing her clothing line, giving interviews about it (she's lucky her mother is alive and that's why journalist won't ask her these questions. I am sure if MJ was alive they wouldn't ask Paris the questions they do if Mike allowed her to talk to press to promote her film for example as Lourdes promotes her clothing line)

[Edited 5/18/12 11:47am]

There's only so much you see of Lourdes though. Not at all an overkill vibe like MJ's kids.

[Edited 5/18/12 12:40pm]

mookie said:

dag said:

I don't know if Lourdes is allowed to post on Twitter or if she post her pictures online, but she is also exposed enough - doing her clothing line, giving interviews about it (she's lucky her mother is alive and that's why journalist won't ask her these questions. I am sure if MJ was alive they wouldn't ask Paris the questions they do if Mike allowed her to talk to press to promote her film for example as Lourdes promotes her clothing line)

[Edited 5/18/12 11:47am]

There's only so much you see of Lourdes though. Not at all an overkill vibe like MJ's kids.

[Edited 5/18/12 12:40pm]

The exposure seems the same to me. SHe also has paparazzi following her.

The biggest difference is that Mike's kids are just pushed to promote whatever there is about their dad and now Paris will be to promote the film which will be used as an excuse for them to talk about her dad. Of course that might be a problem and I am not arguing with you that it's the best for the kids. I also don't like it. I am just saying that I am not that pessimistic to worry about Paris turning into like LaToya cause even though she likes attention, she does seem sensible and is probably still too young and naive. I think she will learn soon. I am not sure if that was a coincidence, but after that bikini incident, she cut off the internet completely for a while. Last time I've checked she's been back, but not as much as she used to. We' ll see. I really like them all and I wish them best.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

One song "Don't Be Messin" is better than none. Not to mention, its only for the single. We don't know the tracklist for Bad 25. Like someone said, they may release an outtake for all the singles.

Would be cool. We'll. I'd definitely love to hear just ANYTHING new.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

With BAD 25 (and even the Jacksons goin' on tour) on the horizon, do y'all see Motown doin' what they usually do best and releasing material around the time of the Epic release? They've been doin' this since the brothers jumped ship to CBS/Epic in 76.

76- Motown's Joyful Jukebox Music released around thier debut record

79- Boogie released around Destiny (titled Boogie after their hit "Blame it on the Boogie" to fool fans into buying that record.)

81- One Day On Your Life to cash off the success the still popular Off The Wall

84- Farewell My Summer Love with the Jacksons Victory LP and Tour

87- Original Soul of MJ around the Bad release

95- Soulsation! with HIStory

01- J5 2fers around Invincible

09- Unreleased Masters around This Is It

Hopefully we see something from Motown, hopefully the Unreleased Master Part 2 Harry W talked about last year or a Lost and Found release. Hell, maybe Epic drops a Jacksons release to correspond with the brothers goin on tour.

It's possible but who knows?

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

I can't believe the nerve of some of y'all. Making parental decisions about a teenage girl that ain't even yours!!! Yeah we love the kids. They're like an extension of their father and they're the last portion of his magic still left on this earth (physically anyways). And we want to protect them from the cruelty of the media and the world. But the reality is we can't. They're not our children technically, and there's only so much we can do. Paris is a normal teenage girl. I think she dresses well for her age, and so what if she wears some make up? She is a celebrity child afterall. And secondly, if she wants to go public and defend her father, I say go for it. I always knew the children would be the forefront of defending their dad. Just because the boys are more withdrawn from the media, doesn't mean Paris should as well. She's outspoken and to those who say she needs to put her mask back on, you gonna keep saying that forever? The girl is growing up and with that freedom comes responsibility. Michael knew he couldn't hide them forever, especially when he knew his daughter wanted to be an actress. I'm sure he would support her in any career choice she chooses just like a father would. And enough with the shade being thrown at Ms. Katherine. Whether you'll admit it or not, she raised 9 kids, including Michael. And was instrumental in his development from child to man. Her disciplinary style wad employed by Michael with his own kids. Granted some decisions she makes are questionable, but in the grand scheme of things, she's the best choice to raise those kids. Otherwise Michael wouldn't have left his kids in her care. The only thing you can do is pray for the children. And keep in mind, Michael's still watching them from above. I'm sure he's proud of all of them. sentence edit [Edited 5/18/12 12:35pm]

I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but you're aiight with me .

LittleBLUECorvette said:

silverchild said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

With BAD 25 (and even the Jacksons goin' on tour) on the horizon, do y'all see Motown doin' what they usually do best and releasing material around the time of the Epic release? They've been doin' this since the brothers jumped ship to CBS/Epic in 76.

76- Motown's Joyful Jukebox Music released around thier debut record

79- Boogie released around Destiny (titled Boogie after their hit "Blame it on the Boogie" to fool fans into buying that record.)

81- One Day On Your Life to cash off the success the still popular Off The Wall

84- Farewell My Summer Love with the Jacksons Victory LP and Tour

87- Original Soul of MJ around the Bad release

95- Soulsation! with HIStory

01- J5 2fers around Invincible

09- Unreleased Masters around This Is It

Hopefully we see something from Motown, hopefully the Unreleased Master Part 2 Harry W talked about last year or a Lost and Found release. Hell, maybe Epic drops a Jacksons release to correspond with the brothers goin on tour.

Forget all other reissues. I'm still waiting on this one... [img:$uid]http://www.cheaptheatretickets.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Apt35vOKopb2p37lT019cQJuo1_500.png[/img:$uid]

YEAH.

Buttercup was one of the the later era J5's best songs.

alphastreet said:

Buttercup is a nice song

Also, don't forget You're Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me and Where Are You Now? from the same sessions.

Stevie and Jermaine revisited them for his Let's Get Serious LP in 1979.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

GoldDolphin said:

dag said:

I am a teacher and most of the girls her age wear the same make-up.

That might be true, and I'm young myself however when you're 14 you dont really think about what you're doing, but later on you regret it. I mean those pictures she posted on instagram of herself with a bikini and with her friends infront of the mirror, are not "bad" pictures but since she's the daugther of the most famous guy on the planet, it's not really "alright", not yet (just look what mediatakeout.com wrote about it). Also Madonna didnt even let Lourdes put on clothes like that when she was the same age, she didnt even allow her to fix her eyebrows untill she turned 16. Even Katherine said in that interview with Pierce, that she was 50 /50 about the whole situation of her wanting to be famous/actress, and that Michael would probably not have wanted that to happen so soon. Janet is also very much against Paris going in to the industry this young.

I think that she should be allowed to do whatever she wants too, but she needs to be aware that not everyone going to see it the way she does. I'm wishing her the best, but she'll never get the type of fame Michael had, it's just impossible and I hope when she realizes this she wont get depressed.

Lourdes is a good comparison.

Dren5 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

At least on TV and on Twitter, she doesn't act the way she was raised, which is all people are questioning. Michael's, in your words, "standard of behavior," for example, was evident, and based on privacy and discretion. So, again, Paris wouldn't even be accessible in public like this if he were present. So why go against that now, craving to be in a business that destroyed her father? That's the overall point, regardless of her age. I mean, Blanket seems to know at least what not to do, and he's even younger.

What is she doing on Twitter that's so horrible? She Tweets alot...and? Teenage girls...talk alot. We all know this shit.

And most teenagers like to show out and 'be seen' alot, that's pretty much typical of the age group. What I'm seeing out of her is pretty standard harmless teenage behavior, and actually pretty tame shit now that I think about it, compared to some of the more extreme shit I've seen other teenagers and young adults do (posting pics of themselves in their underwear online).

And what 'access'? You make it sound like she's constantly on tv or something. She's done like a couple interviews.

It's weird to me the way some MJ fans have decided they want to start attacking his kids.

I haven't heard the CD with Buttercup yet though I eventually bought it and it's still unopened. I can't bring myself to listen to anything, and felt mad at the brothers to open it but I'll get around to it.