SoulAlive said:

I still can't get over how awesome that stage is! I love it.

I'm glad for her. People now know who she is.

lastdecember said:

shorttrini said:

I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

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Exactly, its the biggest audience she is ever gonna play for in her lifetime, do something something shocking, typical BS from this generation of thinking, been there done that, dont really care if it hurts her or not, plain and simple its something SHE chose to do, i dont wanna hear her whining in 6 months on some talk show how shes sorry, because i will have another finger for her.

Or she my just blame Justine, like Janet did....

I think the dumbest thing anyone could do is apologize for something that shouldn't be of real concern. I shook my head when Janet did it. Just so she can be at the Grammy's, then she had to apologize (again) and this time refused. I wouldn't have said anything then. M.I.A., knowing her, ain't gonna apologize, I wouldn't want her to.

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Did she comment/twitter on this so-called hoopla yet?

M.I.A. went up against the WHOLE New York Times crew, she has been through some rough verbal tussles WAY worse than this shit, I but she's sneering at all this.

Harlepolis said:

Did she comment/twitter on this so-called hoopla yet?

M.I.A. went up against the WHOLE New York Times crew, she has been through some rough verbal tussles WAY worse than this shit, I but she's sneering at all this.

No.

Emancipation89 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

WTF? That goddamned terrorist! Have this dirty little sand monkey exiled to G-Bay immediately! The nerve of this insurgent serving wench! How dare she use the Superbowl for her own political purposes! Revoke her f*cking green card!!!! Who does she think she is? Madonna?

Really, this shit isn't even worth mentioning. Little kids do that shit.

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Its hard to believe that people watching a game where grown men knock the shit out of each other over a ball could be so (faux) offended by a hand gesture. Its fake outrage. I DO NOT believe it.

Its just that she's brown, and they can't call her a towel-headed terrorist without sounding racist unless they are on internet message boards, so they have to pretend to be mad like they pretended to be mad during titty-gate.

It's not a race thing. I don't care what kind of artist M.I.A. is, she should know how to put on a show on local tv. U think if Eminem, Pink or Miley Cyrus did the same thing for super bowl half time people would've been ok with that? I hate this "it's not that big a deal for me, so everyone should think the same way and move on." attitude. If some people, especially parents found it offensive and unnecessary they have a right to complain. I understand how unpleasant and annoying it could be for them to see a random performer (I bet a lot of people thought it was just one of Madonna's backup dancers) giving you a middle finger out of nowhere.

I bet she doesn't mind getting all these complains though she's talked about now more than ever.

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Kids watch superbowl now?

Timmy84 said:

I think the dumbest thing anyone could do is apologize for something that shouldn't be of real concern. I shook my head when Janet did it. Just so she can be at the Grammy's, then she had to apologize (again) and this time refused. I wouldn't have said anything then. M.I.A., knowing her, ain't gonna apologize, I wouldn't want her to.

Not even that though, not even the fact that its tabloid fodder like everything else in the media, but she shouldnt apologize because she did it, its that simple, this is where artists make me sick today, they do stunts whatever and they cry on Dr Phil and we like sheep feel sorry for them and that they have suffered. This was planned, she didnt run over somebody that she didnt see while driving, im tired of these "accidents" and the media and bloggers who are nothing more than gossip freaks that cant get jobs, making this crap news, but what can be expected from the twitter and facebook generation but useless info and hyped up BS.

Timmy84 said:

I think the dumbest thing anyone could do is apologize for something that shouldn't be of real concern. I shook my head when Janet did it. Just so she can be at the Grammy's, then she had to apologize (again) and this time refused. I wouldn't have said anything then. M.I.A., knowing her, ain't gonna apologize, I wouldn't want her to.

That's I think! I didn't mind the nipple thing on JJ performance. It was kinda partly covered with a piece o jewelry anyway. But when she apologized...I thought..c'mon girl, don't do that, u didn't do anything 2 be ashamed of...I wish she had stood 4 it. I don't think M.I.A. will apologize either...

go2theMax said:

Timmy84 said:

I think the dumbest thing anyone could do is apologize for something that shouldn't be of real concern. I shook my head when Janet did it. Just so she can be at the Grammy's, then she had to apologize (again) and this time refused. I wouldn't have said anything then. M.I.A., knowing her, ain't gonna apologize, I wouldn't want her to.

That's I think! I didn't mind the nipple thing on JJ performance. It was kinda partly covered with a piece o jewelry anyway. But when she apologized...I thought..c'mon girl, don't do that, u didn't do anything 2 be ashamed of...I wish she had stood 4 it. I don't think M.I.A. will apologize either...

And she shouldnt and niether should have Janet, because it was not an accident, "apologizing" suggests it wasnt meant to be done, what happend her finger was possessed by the devil and stuck up because it hates Tom Brady? i mean come on, these things are always planned, you apologize for accidents, not what you intend to do

go2theMax said:

Timmy84 said:

I think the dumbest thing anyone could do is apologize for something that shouldn't be of real concern. I shook my head when Janet did it. Just so she can be at the Grammy's, then she had to apologize (again) and this time refused. I wouldn't have said anything then. M.I.A., knowing her, ain't gonna apologize, I wouldn't want her to.

That's I think! I didn't mind the nipple thing on JJ performance. It was kinda partly covered with a piece o jewelry anyway. But when she apologized...I thought..c'mon girl, don't do that, u didn't do anything 2 be ashamed of...I wish she had stood 4 it. I don't think M.I.A. will apologize either...

She regrets apologizing to this day and couple with the fact that alot of people didn't even catch it when it first happened.. It was the media constantly talking about that brought on the firestorm.. i had about 15 people in my crib and i was the only 1 that realize that something actually popped out.

Emancipation89 said:

lastdecember said:

And she shouldnt and niether should have Janet, because it was not an accident, "apologizing" suggests it wasnt meant to be done, what happend her finger was possessed by the devil and stuck up because it hates Tom Brady? i mean come on, these things are always planned, you apologize for accidents, not what you intend to do

Wait so Janet Jackson claiming that it was an "accident" was pure BS and a made up excuse? Didn't she say on letterman that only the first black leather layer of her clothing was supposed to come off? She did have red cami underneath, I thought maybe Justin pulled it too hard or something?

u really believed that?!

meh

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My thing is why overreact over something? People just wanna talk about something to get their mind off bullshit but focusing on one thing for months is also bullshit. People are so fucking PUSSY nowadays. Yes I said it. PUSSY.

Timmy84 said:

My thing is why overreact over something? People just wanna talk about something to get their mind off bullshit but focusing on one thing for months is also bullshit. People are so fucking PUSSY nowadays. Yes I said it. PUSSY.

I see your point Timmy, but my thing is, why do it at all? If are are performer and love your art so much, then let it speak for itself. I felt the same way about Eryka's naked romp. If you as talented as you say you are, then you there is no need for it. At the end of the day, you are going to be known more for that act than for your product. People will be buying your product, because it is associated with that act....To me, the intention is twisted...

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

My thing is why overreact over something? People just wanna talk about something to get their mind off bullshit but focusing on one thing for months is also bullshit. People are so fucking PUSSY nowadays. Yes I said it. PUSSY.

I see your point Timmy, but my thing is, why do it at all? If are are performer and love your art so much, then let it speak for itself. I felt the same way about Eryka's naked romp. If you as talented as you say you are, then you there is no need for it. At the end of the day, you are going to be known more for that act than for your product. People will be buying your product, because it is associated with that act....To me, the intention is twisted...

And I definitely see your point as well. Sometimes I keep wondering if someone plans something like that, that they wanted to bring attention to themselves and distract it from anyone else. In this case, M.I.A. doing this took attention away from Madonna. Most of the post-Super Bowl reviews reveled in Madonna and Nicki and avoided talking about M.I.A. Thing is in the case of M.I.A., she had already flipped the bird in the video to Madonna's song. So I'm guessing because she did it in the video, she do it in the performance too. I guess this is why people are thinking this was indeed intentional and probably poorly at that. The Janet thing was done poorly too (tit).

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

My thing is why overreact over something? People just wanna talk about something to get their mind off bullshit but focusing on one thing for months is also bullshit. People are so fucking PUSSY nowadays. Yes I said it. PUSSY.

I see your point Timmy, but my thing is, why do it at all? If are are performer and love your art so much, then let it speak for itself. I felt the same way about Eryka's naked romp. If you as talented as you say you are, then you there is no need for it. At the end of the day, you are going to be known more for that act than for your product. People will be buying your product, because it is associated with that act....To me, the intention is twisted...

that makes sense 2...

SoulAlive said:

Marks isn't sure whether the Paper Planes singer's errant appendage — a switch from the handgun motion she uses in the video for the new Madonna single — will help or hinder sales for her upcoming new album.

This just shows how utterly fucked up America is. You KNOW nobody would've had a problem with her doing the handgun motion, yet a middle finger and everybody shits their pants. One tactic that works with these fools is often to just make them explain exactly why they're so offended.

Smart person: Why did you find that offensive?

Idiot: She flipped her MIDDLE FINGER!

Smart person: Yes, but why are you offended?

Idiot: IT'S HER MIDDLE FINGER!!!11!!1111!!!1

Smart person: Please explain your rage further.

Idiot: IT'S AN OBSCENE GESTURE!!!!

Smart person: Why is it an obscene gesture?

Idiot: Everyone knows it is!

Smart person: Everyone also used to know that leeches cured everything.

Seriously. We are a nation that's created all sorts of meaningless shit to get angry about, but at the end of the day, no middle finger or evil female body part is going to bring on Armageddon. This country needs to pass around a giant doobie and take a damn nap, I swear.

Let me tell you what I think is stupid about the country you're talking about. It's this extreme polarization people create, as if they know everything, as if their own experience and feelings are the most important thing in the world. "It was just a joke, you're NOT supposed to get offended by that" or "It happens everyday everywhere, what's the big deal?" Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and feelings, and suggesting that local television should have some kind of standard is an opinion, especially for family friendly program like Super Bowl. I don't see anything wrong with that. It wasn't her concert, it was a freaking football game. She was only there to entertain the crowd while the players rest, and more than 90% people tune in for the game, not the performance. They have every reason to get pissed off at her.

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banks said:

go2theMax said:

That's I think! I didn't mind the nipple thing on JJ performance. It was kinda partly covered with a piece o jewelry anyway. But when she apologized...I thought..c'mon girl, don't do that, u didn't do anything 2 be ashamed of...I wish she had stood 4 it. I don't think M.I.A. will apologize either...

She regrets apologizing to this day and couple with the fact that alot of people didn't even catch it when it first happened.. It was the media constantly talking about that brought on the firestorm.. i had about 15 people in my crib and i was the only 1 that realize that something actually popped out.

The thing was like .005 seconds. I laughed and forgot about it. But perverts pretending to be feds were reviewing that shit like people put slow motion on porn VHS tapes back in the '80s. The rest of the country had TiVo and acted disgusted. You got Playboys, Penthouses and Hustlers but oh God a Jackson showing a tit, this is a conspiracy.

I just think that there are WAAY to many people, who go for that WOW factor and it is unnecessary.... For me, just shut up and sing...Leave all of the antics at home.

shorttrini said:

I just think that there are WAAY to many people, who go for that WOW factor and it is unnecessary.... For me, just shut up and sing...Leave all of the antics at home.

LOOK AT ME I CAN FLIP A BIRD!

Yeah I can see how that can be all types of fuck up. So in a way the artist has as much to blame if they do that on purpose.

Harlepolis said:

Emancipation89 said:

It's not a race thing. I don't care what kind of artist M.I.A. is, she should know how to put on a show on local tv. U think if Eminem, Pink or Miley Cyrus did the same thing for super bowl half time people would've been ok with that? I hate this "it's not that big a deal for me, so everyone should think the same way and move on." attitude. If some people, especially parents found it offensive and unnecessary they have a right to complain. I understand how unpleasant and annoying it could be for them to see a random performer (I bet a lot of people thought it was just one of Madonna's backup dancers) giving you a middle finger out of nowhere.

I bet she doesn't mind getting all these complains though she's talked about now more than ever.

[Edited 2/7/12 16:21pm]

Kids watch superbowl now?

This photo is old as dirt. This photo is has been used by sports fans over the years to make fun of rival fans football teams. I've seen this photoshopped by Steeler fans to make fun of Browns fans with the words Fuck Cleveland on it.

Emancipation89 said:

Shorttrini said:

I see your point Timmy, but my thing is, why do it at all? If are are performer and love your art so much, then let it speak for itself. I felt the same way about Eryka's naked romp. If you as talented as you say you are, then you there is no need for it. At the end of the day, you are going to be known more for that act than for your product. People will be buying your product, because it is associated with that act....To me, the intention is twisted...

I couldn't care less what artists do in their own concerts. (My thing was that was at NFL) I don't see anything wrong with Erykah walking down the street naked in her own music video, or Prince showing his butt cheeks at his own concert. I don't agree everyone's going to be known for that particular act more than their art, because eventually if their material's good enough, people will find the connection between the act and the product and they'll be taken as true artists.

This just shows how utterly fucked up America is. You KNOW nobody would've had a problem with her doing the handgun motion, yet a middle finger and everybody shits their pants. One tactic that works with these fools is often to just make them explain exactly why they're so offended.

Smart person: Why did you find that offensive?

Idiot: She flipped her MIDDLE FINGER!

Smart person: Yes, but why are you offended?

Idiot: IT'S HER MIDDLE FINGER!!!11!!1111!!!1

Smart person: Please explain your rage further.

Idiot: IT'S AN OBSCENE GESTURE!!!!

Smart person: Why is it an obscene gesture?

Idiot: Everyone knows it is!

Smart person: Everyone also used to know that leeches cured everything.

Seriously. We are a nation that's created all sorts of meaningless shit to get angry about, but at the end of the day, no middle finger or evil female body part is going to bring on Armageddon. This country needs to pass around a giant doobie and take a damn nap, I swear.

What if she actually said "Fuck u all" at the camera, you'd still call everyone who gets pissed off at that "stupid", wouldn't you?

Let me tell you what I think is stupid about the country you're talking about. It's this extreme polarization people create, as if they know everything, as if their own experience and feelings are the most important thing in the world. "It was just a joke, you're NOT supposed to get offended by that" or "It happens everyday everywhere, what's the big deal?" Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and feelings, and suggesting that local television should have some kind of standard is an opinion, especially for family friendly program like Super Bowl. I don't see anything wrong with that. It wasn't her concert, it was a freaking football game. She was only there to entertain the crowd while the players rest, and more than 90% people tune in for the game, not the performance. They have every reason to get pissed off at her.

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OK, you know what? First of all, I wasn't referring to you AT ALL when I wrote that. And I absolutely do NOT subscribe to the idea that "It was just a joke, you're NOT supposed to get offended by that." You're putting words in my mouth, and you're doing it extremely poorly. If somebody can explain to me WHY they find something offensive, I understand and will probably agree. For instance, I think Ricky Gervais is a fucking idiot because he's just mean as hell. I'm offended by a lot of things that are REASONABLE to be offended by, such as rape jokes, jokes about somebody's weight or looks, etc., because those things are GENUINELY HURTFUL.

But you know what? Jokes and attitudes like that are perfectly acceptable at so-called family events like the SuperBowl. They run the most insanely misogynist commercials during the SuperBowl, yet we're supposed to enjoy that and get angry when a female tit or middle finger is exposed for a fraction of a second. What kind of things do you think a little girl learns watching the SuperBowl? She learns she can't do what boys do, she belongs on the sidelines cheering for the men and doing elaborate, often dangerous routines for a fraction of what the men make, she learns that parts of her body are dirty and unacceptable but those same parts are perfectly fine on boys, etc. The Super Bowl is family friendly because we CALL it family friendly. When you really look at it, an argument could certainly be made that it isn't at all.

Furthermore, a lot of things that we consider "family values" in this country are rooted in bigotry and ignorance. We get angry about certain gestures and tits (but only on women) while meanwhile the average American child will have seen 8,000 murders on TV by the time they finish elementary school. THAT'S what pisses me off, is this irrational picking and choosing of what offends us. Of course families need standards for what their children see. The problem is, we're making completely nonsensical decisions about what is and isn't OK. I realize I'm in the minority on this in the United States, but just because I don't subscribe to American norms doesn't automatically mean I'm wrong and destroying American families or some such shit. Most Europeans also think we're insane when we get angry at things like this.

The Super Bowl technically isn't family friendly at all. You're letting your kid see someone get their ass torn up by someone throwing themselves at you like a bowling ball.

What MIA was thinking when she flipped the bird:

"Look at me, up here playing cheerleader to Madonna, co-horting with fricken Nicki Minaj, bopping around on a stage the easily cost over a million bucks, singing on a record I'd never listen to or make and performing at an event I'd never perform at. What the hell happened to me? Boy did I sell out. Fuck you? Fuck me! *flip*

SoulAlive said:

lastdecember said:

Exactly, its the biggest audience she is ever gonna play for in her lifetime, do something something shocking, typical BS from this generation of thinking, been there done that, dont really care if it hurts her or not, plain and simple its something SHE chose to do, i dont wanna hear her whining in 6 months on some talk show how shes sorry, because i will have another finger for her.

M.I.A. won't apologize for this They could fine her or whatever and she still wouldn't care...lol...

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She ain't apologizing for shit. She's a bad ass. She just doesn't give a fuck. Really, she don't give a fuck.

Not nare one.