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SoulAlive

M.I.A. flips the bird at the SuperBowl---a smart career move for her?

Look at this way: she's always been more of an 'underground artist' who hasn't had alot of success in the mainstream (with the exception of "Paper Planes").But yesterday,she was all over the news....lol...maybe this minor controversy will re-ignite her career? What do you think?

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Reply #1 posted 02/07/12 5:15am

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Good for her!

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Reply #2 posted 02/07/12 5:22am

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Was M.I.A.'s middle finger a pointed comment?

By Brian Truitt, USA TODAY

At Sunday's Super Bowl, it wasn't a "wardrobe malfunction" that got tongues wagging, but an appendage malfunction.

Madonna's halftime show — which featured hip-hoppers Nicki Minaj and M.I.A. clad in cheerleader attire and pompoms, singing along to the pop star's new single, Give Me All Your Luvin'— was upstaged when M.I.A. (aka Maya Arulpragasam) extended her middle finger to the cameras. A record 111.3 million viewers saw the British rapper's brief obscene gesture during the telecast, the most-watched TV program in U.S. history, according to Nielsen figures.

Oops.

NBC had a five-second video delay on the show but managed to blur M.I.A's raised finger only after it appeared on air.

Tweeted Perez Hilton: "Think she'll ever be on live TV again?"

People "flipping the bird" during football games is not rare, even on camera: In October, Green Bay Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk was fined $10,000 for flashing his middle finger during a televised Fox game against the St. Louis Rams.

It just doesn't usually come from the halftime entertainment.

"If you're going to go all-in on the spectacle of performing on a halftime show in the Super Bowl, you should probably keep your middle finger down," says Craig Marks, editor in chief of PopDust.com. "Who are you actually flipping off? It just seems out of place, and it's not a good platform to try to be particularly rebellious."

The Super Bowl is such a mainstream event, "things that at a typical performance would not make anybody bat an eye become the subject of a very intense focus," says Rolling Stone contributing editor Anthony DeCurtis.

The rapper — who was one of Google's most-searched subjects Monday — isn't commenting on the incident, but such rude moments aren't out of the norm for the music industry.

A shot of Johnny Cash giving the middle finger to photographer Jim Marshall during a 1969 performance at San Quentin Prison added to the Man in Black's mystique. But when Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift as she accepted a trophy during the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards, his image wasn't helped at all. "That made him look like a twit," DeCurtis says.

Usually in the world of hip-hop, foul language and gestures can be a boon for artists (see: 2 Live Crew).

"She's supposed to be controversial," DeCurtis says. "M.I.A. is certainly not on the scale of Madonna or Nicki Minaj, and it might help (her career) now that people know who she is."

Marks isn't sure whether the Paper Planes singer's errant appendage — a switch from the handgun motion she uses in the video for the new Madonna single — will help or hinder sales for her upcoming new album. (The first single was released Friday. The title? Bad Girls.)

But Chris Willman of Yahoo Music definitely sees it as a plus for M.I.A. "I don't think she's ever gotten this much attention before," he says. "That's the kind of publicity you can't buy when you have an album coming out.

"Who would have guessed that Madonna would be an afterthought in what people are talking about after the show? Madonna might be more mad than any conservative groups."

In the long run, the incident won't be as infamous as Janet Jackson's, when the singer's breast was exposed for about a second while performing with Justin Timberlake during the 2004 Super Bowl. The FCC fined CBS $550,000, but that was fine overturned by a federal appeals court.

"Nothing freaks out America more than nudity while the children are watching," Marks says.

That led to a run of more "non-controversial" Super Bowl performers such as Bruce Springsteen, The Who and the Rolling Stones.

"Madonna to this day courts controversy," DeCurtis says. "In a certain sense, if you're asking Madonna, Nicki Minaj and M.I.A. to get up on stage, you're getting what you asked for."

Still, there were the next-day mea culpas. The NFL issued an apology for "the completely inappropriate gesture," while NBC said in a statement that its delay system failed to catch the "spontaneous" middle finger in time. The Parents Television Council was not amused either, calling the gesture "a slap in the face."

Marks suspects the gesture was more premeditated than spontaneous, seeing how M.I.A. looked directly at the camera when she did it.

"The only mystery is whether or not Madonna approved of her message, whether she knew she was going to do it, or whether she tried to stop her or not. Maybe she put her up to it, who knows?" he says.

"My instinct is that (M.I.A.) recognized the overblown ridiculousness that is the Super Bowl halftime show. (Maybe) she felt a little silly for being up there in a mock cheerleader costume cheering for Madonna and she just wanted to make her mark somehow."

The action and the reaction, however, both seem equally juvenile to Marks. "It's amazing that people care so much about such a small little thing, but that's the Super Bowl for you."

Says Willman: "Everybody's seen a middle finger before."

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Reply #3 posted 02/07/12 5:29am

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Don’t you think it’s a little demeaning for Nicki and MIA that they were basically Madonna’s backup dancers? But then again I would find it very hard to turn down an opportunity as big as that.

I think its Madonna’s bitchy way of keeping control and centre of attention like she did when she performed with Xtina and Britney.

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Reply #4 posted 02/07/12 5:40am

SoulAlive

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Don’t you think it’s a little demeaning for Nicki and MIA that they were basically Madonna’s backup dancers? But then again I would find it very hard to turn down an opportunity as big as that.

I think its Madonna’s bitch way of keeping control and centre of attention like she did when she performed with Xtina and Britney.

I don't think it was demeaning at all.This was a major career highlight for them.....not only doing a song with one of their idols,but performing it with her at the Super Bowl.Can you imagine what that must feel like?

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Reply #5 posted 02/07/12 7:07am

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I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

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Reply #6 posted 02/07/12 7:08am

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I don't think it will hurt or harm. Monday armchair talking heads flapping their gums because there wasn't much to talk about. Anyone been to a pro sporting event in the past decade? What fans are doing and saying in the stands is far worse than what that young woman did... flipping the bird. Every once in while you hear what the players are saying on the field.... it ain't poetry. Hypocrisy.

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Reply #7 posted 02/07/12 7:16am

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I don't think it will hurt or harm. Monday armchair talking heads flapping their gums because there wasn't much to talk about. Anyone been to a pro sporting event in the past decade? What fans are doing and saying in the stands is far worse than what that young woman did... flipping the bird. Every once in while you hear what the players are saying on the field.... it ain't poetry. Hypocrisy.

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Hypocrisy and Self Righteousness at its best. Yep, that sounds like America.....lol

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Reply #8 posted 02/07/12 7:47am

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It did make people more aware who she is

Why has no one has mentioned what a shitty job she did lip synching

And her flipping the bird was not as questionable as all the backup dancers grinding the air!!!! Hilarious!!!
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Reply #9 posted 02/07/12 8:27am

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News: M.I.A. Faces Serious Heat, Big Fines Following "F*ck You" SB Halftime Hand Gesture

Tuesday, Feb 7, 2012 10:06AM

Written by Cyrus Langhorne

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Rapper M.I.A. may have to dig deep into her pockets to settle a hefty fine for her unexpected actions last Sunday when she flipped off television cameras during the Super Bowl XLVI halftime performance.

According to reports, M.I.A. could be public enemy number one if fines are handed out for her gesture.

M.I.A. will end up paying any fines imposed on NBC as a result of her finger wag during the Super Bowl halftime show ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ. Our sources say ... the NFL has indemnified NBC ... because the NFL is responsible for the halftime content. But the NFL was smart, given the history of performers who wanted to do something shocking to get attention during the biggest TV event of the year. So we're told ... M.I.A. signed a contract with the NFL for the halftime performance, and in that contract M.I.A. agreed to indemnify the NFL for any money it might be forced to pay if the FCC comes down on the Peacock Network. Remember, CBS was hit with a $550,000 FCC fine after Janet Jackson's famous wardrobe malfunction, but that fine was thrown out by a federal appeals court. Sources tell us ... aside from the fact that the NFL doesn't want to pay a huge fine, the organization wants to send a message to performers -- don't you dare screw with us. (TMZ)
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Reply #10 posted 02/07/12 9:28am

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I don't know if it was even a move now.

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Reply #11 posted 02/07/12 9:49am

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I feel like it's been a very muted controversy, no one really seems to care that much.

Either way I love M.I.A. and I think she's a total badass.

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Reply #12 posted 02/07/12 9:50am

Timmy84

Guess she should've shown her bare badonkadonk...

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Reply #13 posted 02/07/12 9:51am

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Who?

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Reply #14 posted 02/07/12 9:53am

Timmy84

I'm betting Janet fans are laughing their heads off right now! lol

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Reply #15 posted 02/07/12 1:01pm

SoulAlive

it's funny because...weeks before the SuperBowl,I kept asking "would these ladies be on their best behavior?" lol I had a feeling that one of them would create some kind of controversy.I'm just glad it wasn't Madonna.

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Reply #16 posted 02/07/12 1:06pm

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shorttrini said:

I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

I agree about her not wanting to get into the mainstream.She seems to have an unapologetic "I-don't-give-a-fuck" attitude lol that's actually one of the things I like about her.It's refreshing to see.

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Reply #17 posted 02/07/12 1:41pm

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WTF? That goddamned terrorist! Have this dirty little sand monkey exiled to G-Bay immediately! The nerve of this insurgent serving wench! How dare she use the Superbowl for her own political purposes! Revoke her f*cking green card!!!! Who does she think she is? Madonna?

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Really, this shit isn't even worth mentioning. Little kids do that shit.

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Its hard to believe that people watching a game where grown men knock the shit out of each other over a ball could be so (faux) offended by a hand gesture. Its fake outrage. I DO NOT believe it.

Its just that she's brown, and they can't call her a towel-headed terrorist without sounding racist unless they are on internet message boards, so they have to pretend to be mad like they pretended to be mad during titty-gate.

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Reply #18 posted 02/07/12 1:44pm

Timmy84

BlaqueKnight said:

WTF? That goddamned terrorist! Have this dirty little sand monkey exiled to G-Bay immediately! The nerve of this insurgent serving wench! How dare she use the Superbowl for her own political purposes! Revoke her f*cking green card!!!! Who does she think she is? Madonna?

rolleyes

Really, this shit isn't even worth mentioning. Little kids do that shit.

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Its hard to believe that people watching a game where grown men knock the shit out of each other over a ball could be so (faux) offended by a hand gesture. Its fake outrage. I DO NOT believe it.

Its just that she's brown, and they can't call her a towel-headed terrorist without sounding racist unless they are on internet message boards, so they have to pretend to be mad like they pretended to be mad during titty-gate.

Pretty much. Anyone would be dumb to think that their anger was actually justified. You had football players cursing and shit but get mad because one shows a tit or flips a bird during a halftime show. Fuck that. Just want something to talk about because no one wanna get serious about anything anymore.

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Reply #19 posted 02/07/12 1:49pm

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I just found ironic how Madonna, boasted that "there would not be any wardrobe malfunctions", but somebody ended up having a "finger" malfunction.

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Reply #20 posted 02/07/12 1:55pm

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I just found ironic how Madonna, boasted that "there would not be any wardrobe malfunctions", but somebody ended up having a "finger" malfunction.

Yeah shit was gonna pop off. Now that I think about it, Madonna was bullshitting when she said that. lol Bet she act like she didn't know Maya was gonna do that. Just watch. bored2

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Reply #21 posted 02/07/12 2:09pm

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Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:

I just found ironic how Madonna, boasted that "there would not be any wardrobe malfunctions", but somebody ended up having a "finger" malfunction.

Yeah shit was gonna pop off. Now that I think about it, Madonna was bullshitting when she said that. lol Bet she act like she didn't know Maya was gonna do that. Just watch. bored2

I think she did. But, I smell comparisions coming so, I will not say anything more.... lol lol

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Reply #22 posted 02/07/12 2:14pm

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shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah shit was gonna pop off. Now that I think about it, Madonna was bullshitting when she said that. lol Bet she act like she didn't know Maya was gonna do that. Just watch. bored2

I think she did. But, I smell comparisions coming so, I will not say anything more.... lol lol

Hell people here was comparing AWWREADY! lol

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Reply #23 posted 02/07/12 2:29pm

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shorttrini said:

I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

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Exactly, its the biggest audience she is ever gonna play for in her lifetime, do something something shocking, typical BS from this generation of thinking, been there done that, dont really care if it hurts her or not, plain and simple its something SHE chose to do, i dont wanna hear her whining in 6 months on some talk show how shes sorry, because i will have another finger for her.


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Reply #24 posted 02/07/12 2:33pm

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Don’t you think it’s a little demeaning for Nicki and MIA that they were basically Madonna’s backup dancers? But then again I would find it very hard to turn down an opportunity as big as that.

I think its Madonna’s bitchy way of keeping control and centre of attention like she did when she performed with Xtina and Britney.

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Uh, that's like sticking the finger to herself... She didn't have to do the half-time show... Her choice.

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Reply #25 posted 02/07/12 2:35pm

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Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:

I just found ironic how Madonna, boasted that "there would not be any wardrobe malfunctions", but somebody ended up having a "finger" malfunction.

Yeah shit was gonna pop off. Now that I think about it, Madonna was bullshitting when she said that. lol Bet she act like she didn't know Maya was gonna do that. Just watch. bored2

All of these things are planned, whether u are a Kardashian or MIA or a Jackson, or David Lee Roth, you know what you are doing and you do it, these people are adults. I agree on the whole BS of the superbowl and a tit and a middle finger, but im tired of treating these artists like kids that "know no better" id rather one of these artists have the balls like John Lennon did in the 60's when talking on religion, by not saying sorry, or I didnt know what i was saying, he owned up, but nowadays, when this happens artists are victims? Really, you took your finger and stuck it up in the air, deal with it, you made a choice, personally i could care less because the world is in much worse shape than ever for this to have traction as NEWS but i cant stand back and say aww poor girl this wasnt planned, sorry, i will have more respect if instead of copping out she says nothing about it, or says "yeah i did it and i'll do it whenever i want"


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Reply #26 posted 02/07/12 2:39pm

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lastdecember said:

shorttrini said:

I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

Exactly, its the biggest audience she is ever gonna play for in her lifetime, do something something shocking, typical BS from this generation of thinking, been there done that, dont really care if it hurts her or not, plain and simple its something SHE chose to do, i dont wanna hear her whining in 6 months on some talk show how shes sorry, because i will have another finger for her.

nod M.I.A. won't apologize for this lol They could fine her or whatever and she still wouldn't care...lol...

[Edited 2/7/12 14:44pm]

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Reply #27 posted 02/07/12 2:57pm

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lastdecember said:

shorttrini said:

I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

[Edited 2/7/12 7:09am]

Exactly, its the biggest audience she is ever gonna play for in her lifetime, do something something shocking, typical BS from this generation of thinking, been there done that, dont really care if it hurts her or not, plain and simple its something SHE chose to do, i dont wanna hear her whining in 6 months on some talk show how shes sorry, because i will have another finger for her.

I am more in agreement with -

SoulAlive:

"My instinct is that (M.I.A.) recognized the overblown ridiculousness that is the Super Bowl halftime show. (Maybe) she felt a little silly for being up there in a mock cheerleader costume cheering for Madonna and she just wanted to make her mark somehow."

The action and the reaction, however, both seem equally juvenile to Marks. "It's amazing that people care so much about such a small little thing, but that's the Super Bowl for you."

and Blaque:

Really, this shit isn't even worth mentioning. Little kids do that shit.

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Reply #28 posted 02/07/12 3:15pm

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lastdecember said:

shorttrini said:

I think it was asine fucking move. Not a good way to get into the "mainstream",(which is something I don't think she wants to do anyway.) She just wanted her "5 minutes of fame" and to stand out, and she got it.

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Exactly, its the biggest audience she is ever gonna play for in her lifetime, do something something shocking, typical BS from this generation of thinking, been there done that, dont really care if it hurts her or not, plain and simple its something SHE chose to do, i dont wanna hear her whining in 6 months on some talk show how shes sorry, because i will have another finger for her.

Those of us familiar with MIA know damn well she won't apologize. I felt NBC was biting off more then they could chew when they booked her to begin with. She's hot-button. Politically controversial (the worst kind). I think they got off easy. It's the least she could've done when you think about her short history in the music biz.

Everyone thinks she blew this big opportunity (Wendy Duh Williams) and whatnot. Please. She had her fluke hit a year ago and she's probably mnore then happy about that. Got paid off the licensing of that alone no doubt.

All she did was add a visual to the bleeped out line she was singing.

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Reply #29 posted 02/07/12 3:33pm

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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah shit was gonna pop off. Now that I think about it, Madonna was bullshitting when she said that. lol Bet she act like she didn't know Maya was gonna do that. Just watch. bored2

All of these things are planned, whether u are a Kardashian or MIA or a Jackson, or David Lee Roth, you know what you are doing and you do it, these people are adults. I agree on the whole BS of the superbowl and a tit and a middle finger, but im tired of treating these artists like kids that "know no better" id rather one of these artists have the balls like John Lennon did in the 60's when talking on religion, by not saying sorry, or I didnt know what i was saying, he owned up, but nowadays, when this happens artists are victims? Really, you took your finger and stuck it up in the air, deal with it, you made a choice, personally i could care less because the world is in much worse shape than ever for this to have traction as NEWS but i cant stand back and say aww poor girl this wasnt planned, sorry, i will have more respect if instead of copping out she says nothing about it, or says "yeah i did it and i'll do it whenever i want"

She ain't apologizing.

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