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Reply #630 posted 09/15/11 1:17am

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Yeah, I believe the story, but I don't understand why he's bringing these stories up (this, and the escape plan story). I know he's got a book to promote, but the escape plan story implies that he thought Michael may have been guilty,

BS! No, it does not. Why would he want to help a guilty person escape? It just shows that he didn't trust the system (or the 12 jurors sitting in the jury box). When I first read the headlines I thought 'Fool, shut up!'... but then I read the actual book excerpt and don't think it's that bad after all. But still, it probably would have been best had he not mentioned it. Someone retells that story wrong and it makes Michael look bad.

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Reply #631 posted 09/15/11 2:51am

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Jermaine's got a book to sell and parts of it have been serialised in some papers to help gain interest and sales.

The MJ 9/11 story could be true as Michael did perform in NYC on the 9th and 10th of September 2001 for his 30th Anniversary concert.

However - would a star who just did a show the night before - really have a meeting booked in for 9am? Most don't surface til 2pm on tour, lol.

And with regards to the unrealistic escape plan - most fail to report that MJ had no hand in it.

I will consider reading Jermaine's book IF he fesses up about Word To The Badd and his vain attempt to stir some controversy and cash in on MJ's fame. If he does that, then I might believe more of what he is saying in the other pages.

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Reply #632 posted 09/15/11 3:06am

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Lenny Kravitz has described working with Michael Jackson as "incredible" and praised him as a "perfectionist" who made him laugh.

As preparations for the King of Pop's tribute concert in Cardiff next month continue, Kravitz spoke to Sky News about working with the singer on the track, Another Day, which he wrote forJackson.

"It was probably the most incredible collaboration I have ever done," he said. "I was so inspired by him as a child... working with him was fantastic."

"Here's a guy who's been doing it for all these years and he's not jaded, still a perfectionist, still driven, still comes into the studio and spends all day and all night until he gets it right and come in the next day and the next day."

"He's a very funny gentleman, we laughed the entire time we did it. He's really fun."

As well as Jackson, Grammy award winner Kravitz has collaborated with the likes of Madonna, Vanessa Paradis and Aerosmith but one person he would love to work with is Brit singer Adele who he says has an "amazing voice".

I am always myself. I make the music that I feel, that I hear, that comes out of me. I don't chase the radio or the trends... I can't do that otherwise I'm not expressing myself authentically.

Lenny Kravitz

More than 20 years after the release of his debut 1989 album Let Love Rule, Kravitz is on album number nine but says he still finds going into the studio a "magical" experience which he "lives for".

For his latest album, Black and White America, Kravitz went back to basics and lived a simple life at his home in the Bahamas over the two years he wrote and recorded it.

"It's a special record for me," he said. "I secluded myself. I lived on a trailer on the beach, very simple. I put my heart and soul into it."

Kravitz, who writes, produces, arranges and plays all the instruments on his albums, said making this record was a "therapeutic experience".

He said: "I needed to get away. I had been working a lot. I had a lot of things going on in my family… took care of some people who were sick and died.

FILES) US pop star and entertainer Michael Jackson preforms before an estimated audience of 60,000 in Brunei on July 16, 1996. Michael Jackson died on June 25, 2009 after suffering a cardiac arrest, sending shockwaves sweeping across the world and tributes pouring in on June 26 for the tortured music icon revered as the 'King of Pop.' AFP PHOTO/FRANCIS Sylvain (Photo credit should read FRANCIS Sylvain/AFP/Getty Images)

Jackson and Kravitz worked on the track Another Day together

"I went through a lot of regular things that we all go through in life but are quite emotional and you put all of your own feelings on the back burner because you have to keep going."

"I had a real chance to reflect and live life simply, super-basic. All of that is on that record."

Black and White America draws on his own experiences growing up with one foot in two cultures.

His father, Sy Kravitz, a TV news executive, was of Russian Jewish Descent while his actress mother was of Bahamian descent.

"For me growing up between two cultures was brilliant," he said.

"It was a very rich upbringing. I was told by my parents to embrace both sides, celebrate both sides, understand both sides, so I grew up having no idea about prejudice."

Lenny Kravitz

Kravitz writes, produces, plays and sings all his own songs

With four Grammy awards under his belt and a string of hits such as Are You Gonna Go My Way and Fly Away, Kravitz has shown longevity.

He credits his endurance to making the music he wants, rather than trying to get a hit record.

He said: "I am always myself. I make the music that I feel, that I hear, that comes out of me. I don't chase the radio or the trends... I can't do that otherwise I'm not expressing myself authentically.

But although making a hit record is not top of his agenda, he understands those that do.

"That's part of the success game. If your focus is being successful and always having a hit on the radio, or trying to, you will do that.

Lenny Kravitz

Kravitz has four Grammy awards under his belt

"I am not putting them down, that is a different game as well. But for me, personally, it is important that I am authentic - for me to be able to sleep at night and look at myself in the mirror."

Recently Kravitz has branched into design, setting up his own company focusing on commercial, residential and product design.

The artist said he enjoys it "just as much as making music".

Kravitz is also taking on more acting projects having appeared in 2009 film Precious.

He has just finished film The Hunger Games which also starsWoody Harrelson and Jennifer Lawrence.

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #633 posted 09/15/11 5:07am

alphastreet

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alphastreet said:

I was worried for all the victims of 9-11 when it happened and scared for who the next target would be, but I also knew MJ was in NYC and really really worried cause I didn't know yet if he was on a plane to go back or not, or if it was his or not before we learned more info and freaked out sad When I heard of Karen Faye saying he was going to visit, I was so sad all over again and relieved that he didn't go, but I can't help but wonder if this is being said for publicity

He was there. Michael talked about it some years ago. He had done the second show and when the attacks happened that morning after, they got everyone together and the family drove back to California

yeah I do remember that

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Reply #634 posted 09/15/11 9:00am

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Jermaine is all over tv here in the uk confused Making all sorts of claims about MJ touring with the Jacksons including them being involved in some of the o2 shows. confused

Does anyone know where Michael got his hat's from? I want to have one sat in the corner of my front room on a hat stand. Always wanted one of Michaels but may have to settle for the same make biggrin

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Reply #635 posted 09/15/11 9:33am

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GettOffMyLand said:

Jermaine is all over tv here in the uk confused Making all sorts of claims about MJ touring with the Jacksons including them being involved in some of the o2 shows. confused

Does anyone know where Michael got his hat's from? I want to have one sat in the corner of my front room on a hat stand. Always wanted one of Michaels but may have to settle for the same make biggrin

and some people are actually considering BUYING this book? even a casual mj fan knows he was not interested in touring w/ his brothers, and they weren't involved in the o2 shows.
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Reply #636 posted 09/15/11 12:37pm

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kibbles said:

GettOffMyLand said:

Jermaine is all over tv here in the uk confused Making all sorts of claims about MJ touring with the Jacksons including them being involved in some of the o2 shows. confused




Does anyone know where Michael got his hat's from? I want to have one sat in the corner of my front room on a hat stand. Always wanted one of Michaels but may have to settle for the same make biggrin



and some people are actually considering BUYING this book? even a casual mj fan knows he was not interested in touring w/ his brothers, and they weren't involved in the o2 shows.

Any one know what happens the car from moonealker
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Reply #637 posted 09/15/11 6:35pm

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forget it.

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Reply #638 posted 09/15/11 11:02pm

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I don't really know how this could be said with certainty, and what abou Bill Gates for example? Still, he sure did give a lot.

Not according to the Guinness World Records. lol Michael still holds that record.

Hmm not trying to start anything but the only humanitarian recognition I could find from Guinness Records was "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star" from year 2000. I don't think we can compare him to people like Bill Gates because he's not a pop star...apparently Bill Gate's foundation has donated billions so far...

But I do know that World Music Award said Michael donated more than 300 million in his life time and I think that's possibly the largest amount of donation by entertainer...(actors and musicians)

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Reply #639 posted 09/16/11 1:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

Not according to the Guinness World Records. lol Michael still holds that record.

Hmm not trying to start anything but the only humanitarian recognition I could find from Guinness Records was "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star" from year 2000. I don't think we can compare him to people like Bill Gates because he's not a pop star...apparently Bill Gate's foundation has donated billions so far...

But I do know that World Music Award said Michael donated more than 300 million in his life time and I think that's possibly the largest amount of donation by entertainer...(actors and musicians)

I thought I heard Oprah donated more than MJ too. But does it really matter? Michael clearly gave a lot to charity; does it really matter if someone else gave more?

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Reply #640 posted 09/16/11 1:17pm

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The1592 said:

Emancipation89 said:

Hmm not trying to start anything but the only humanitarian recognition I could find from Guinness Records was "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star" from year 2000. I don't think we can compare him to people like Bill Gates because he's not a pop star...apparently Bill Gate's foundation has donated billions so far...

But I do know that World Music Award said Michael donated more than 300 million in his life time and I think that's possibly the largest amount of donation by entertainer...(actors and musicians)

I thought I heard Oprah donated more than MJ too. But does it really matter? Michael clearly gave a lot to charity; does it really matter if someone else gave more?

Not really. People should do charity often. I bet they do and do it for the sake of their heart like Michael and Oprah, they're just not famous.

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Reply #641 posted 09/16/11 4:51pm

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The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #642 posted 09/16/11 5:24pm

alphastreet

I'm going to cry sad
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Reply #643 posted 09/16/11 5:37pm

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onder

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alphastreet said:

I'm going to cry sad

hug

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #644 posted 09/16/11 6:11pm

alphastreet

so sweet

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Reply #645 posted 09/16/11 8:02pm

Timmy84

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Sadly most of the people in this picture have passed on to the other side of this world. Stay strong Tyson!

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Reply #646 posted 09/17/11 5:18am

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yeah sad
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Reply #647 posted 09/17/11 6:35am

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Reply #648 posted 09/17/11 8:52am

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In our local newspaper had an article about the most dangerous tattoos. Tattooing with MJ took 2nd place after the tattoo skulls. eek Pathologists U.S. record large number of young people who died from a drug overdose, the body that have tattoos MJ. According to statistics, it's every 10-15th body. ...... Madness. mad

And it is written in one of the largest newspapers .... Have you ever heard about it?? I am tired of the nonsense the media.

By the way, has long wanted to ask: why in the forum use the sticky topic for MJ? Why not just create a variety of topics that you interested in?

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Reply #649 posted 09/17/11 9:20am

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The Ultimate Tribute To Michael

(16-9-2011) On September 15, the Estate of Michael Jackson and Cirque du Soleil invited MJFC and a few other select fan sites, out to Montreal to watch a rehearsal of the much anticpated Michael Jackson: The Immortal World Tour. The purpose was to get our unedited reactions to the show and even to listen to our gripes and concerns. As MJFC's representative 'fly on the wall,' I can tell you that what you are about to witness is quite simply, the ultimate tribute to Michael Jackson.

Unfortunately, there were no cameras allowed inside the arena for the show or at the Cirque headquarters so I have no pictures to share with you but, belive me when the show opens in early October, not only will you see the most dynamic specticle of dance and acrobatic prowess the Cirque du Soleil is so known for, but you will also see, hear - and most importantly - you will feel Michael.

As you all know, this is the first time that Cirque has ever done a show with a live band. And boy, what a band it is! Michael's long-time band director, Greg Phillingaines and also his drummer, Jonathan "Sugarfoot" Moffit head up the team. Along with them are a 19 year-old female guitar wizard that Phillingaines discovered on YouTube and an amazing electric cellist. Pair all that with the magic Kevin Antunes is working with Michael's original masters and, needless to say, the truly world-class band sounded phenomenal!

But as amazing as the music is, this show actually goes beyond the music and captures the essence of Michael. His genius, his imagination, his heart... it's all there. They get it. And, aside from a couple of small concerns that we (the fans present at this little 'think tank') voiced, they really nailed it! You will laugh and you will cry and you will be absolutely astounded at many of the visuals!

But I want to back up a little and make sure you understand what I just said. Cirque du Soleil and the Estate invited a small group of 15 fans, representatives from the fan club community, to a viewing of The Immortal World Tour in order to get our feedback and imput. They listened to what we had to say and they took our feelings and suggestions into consideration. And it wasn't just lip service. Changes were made to the show immediately based on our feedback. That's huge! And the passion for Michael that I witnessed from everyone involved - from the band members to the costume designer, from the dancers to the technicians, to members of the Estate and the entire Cirque du Soleil behind-the-scenes production team - was very real. Their love for Michael and their concern about upholding his legacy was evident. As I said, this show really is the ultimate Michael Jackson tribute and I, for one, can't wait for the curtain to go up!

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4849:the-ultimate-tribute-to-michael&catid=85:latest-news&Itemid=82

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Reply #650 posted 09/17/11 11:48am

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In our local newspaper had an article about the most dangerous tattoos. Tattooing with MJ took 2nd place after the tattoo skulls. eek Pathologists U.S. record large number of young people who died from a drug overdose, the body that have tattoos MJ. According to statistics, it's every 10-15th body. ...... Madness. mad

And it is written in one of the largest newspapers .... Have you ever heard about it?? I am tired of the nonsense the media.

By the way, has long wanted to ask: why in the forum use the sticky topic for MJ? Why not just create a variety of topics that you interested in?

Oh so now, Michael is responsible for these deaths? Fuck outta here...they got nothin' and ALREADY they blamin' the brotha...

And I wanna know how they got hold of those so-called statistics. You'll be surprised how many are not gathered correctly.

And to answer you question, it's because there are many Prince fans with sticks up their asses who don't want every other thread to be about Michael. Let's face it, without this sticky, that's what would happen to Music: Non-Prince.

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #651 posted 09/17/11 11:52am

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In our local newspaper had an article about the most dangerous tattoos. Tattooing with MJ took 2nd place after the tattoo skulls. eek Pathologists U.S. record large number of young people who died from a drug overdose, the body that have tattoos MJ. According to statistics, it's every 10-15th body. ...... Madness. mad

And it is written in one of the largest newspapers .... Have you ever heard about it?? I am tired of the nonsense the media.

By the way, has long wanted to ask: why in the forum use the sticky topic for MJ? Why not just create a variety of topics that you interested in?

The thing about tattoos sounds crazy, and I've never heard anything about that. As for the sticky, it's because MJ gets discussed a lot, and the forums were flooded with MJ topics. Personally, I think an MJ sub-forum is in order. I know it sounds ridiculous on Prince.org, but clearly a lot of people want to talk about MJ here, and this sticky sucks because we don't all want to talk about the same thing. Madonna should get a sub forum too. I'm not really even a fan of hers, but she gets discussed constantly here too.


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Reply #652 posted 09/17/11 11:54am

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I don't believe MJ is second, nor do I believe everyone that gets a tattoo gets a skull a crossbones anymore, that itself is stereotypical and an insult to those into body art.

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Reply #653 posted 09/17/11 12:16pm

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Guess nobody knows where MJ got his hats made lol

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Reply #654 posted 09/17/11 12:26pm

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Guess nobody knows where MJ got his hats made lol

I'm someone who's really into detail and the way Michael's fedoras looked and how they were shaped, that's the way I thought they're supposed to look lol

I used to go to clothing stores and would look through fedoras to find the "Michael model" lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #655 posted 09/17/11 12:29pm

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LiLi1992 said:

In our local newspaper had an article about the most dangerous tattoos. Tattooing with MJ took 2nd place after the tattoo skulls. eek Pathologists U.S. record large number of young people who died from a drug overdose, the body that have tattoos MJ. According to statistics, it's every 10-15th body. ...... Madness. mad

And it is written in one of the largest newspapers .... Have you ever heard about it?? I am tired of the nonsense the media.

By the way, has long wanted to ask: why in the forum use the sticky topic for MJ? Why not just create a variety of topics that you interested in?

Back in 2008-early 2009, there were a overflow of MJ threads and it got to the point where there would be 8 or 9 MJ threads on the first page of Music: Non Prince. Some made by fans, some made by "haters". People complained so right around the time Michael died, a decision was made to make a MJ sticky to deal with the flooding

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #656 posted 09/17/11 12:54pm

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LiLi1992 said:

In our local newspaper had an article about the most dangerous tattoos. Tattooing with MJ took 2nd place after the tattoo skulls. eek Pathologists U.S. record large number of young people who died from a drug overdose, the body that have tattoos MJ. According to statistics, it's every 10-15th body. ...... Madness. mad

And it is written in one of the largest newspapers .... Have you ever heard about it?? I am tired of the nonsense the media.

By the way, has long wanted to ask: why in the forum use the sticky topic for MJ? Why not just create a variety of topics that you interested in?

Back in 2008-early 2009, there were a overflow of MJ threads and it got to the point where there would be 8 or 9 MJ threads on the first page of Music: Non Prince. Some made by fans, some made by "haters". People complained so right around the time Michael died, a decision was made to make a MJ sticky to deal with the flooding

Well it's 2.5 years since the death. I am interested in some aspects of Michael's life (music, dance, video), but I can not create a topic about it.
In the sticky topics Michael can get lost ....
It is a violation of human rights. Down with the sticky topic. lol

Or create two sticky threads:
1. Michael Jackson - music and creativity!
2. Michael Jackson - The personal life!

I will dwell in the first theme and I will not delve into the issues of privacy. biggrin

Why some people may not like the topic of Michael, they can just not go into such topics?
Some fans of Prince live in the past rivalry, they need to grow up ...

Why rob herself because of bias or conflict between your favorite artists?

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I, too, can hardly believe that every 10-15th man, who falls to the pathologist, has tattoos with Michael. Some extremely high numbers.

Someone has tattoos with Michael here? smile

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Reply #657 posted 09/17/11 1:34pm

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I miss talking about all the music and dance and all that too and hate the fact all the personal stuff was thrown towards the general public and fans and hard to get away from, trying to re-write the past of always knowing mj from afar as a song and dance man. It won't happen for me, but it's too painful to re-visit when even his own fans keep bringing up controversies that are irrelevant and would not stop, even at his forums. Even if you find people to relate to who share your views, it gets tiresome because that is not the reason I fell in love with him years ago and feel guilty that sometimes I'm thinking of things that have nothing to do with him cause of being bombarded with discussions by media and fans. I think seperate threads are a great idea though I'm not sure if it will happen or not. I also like the idea because the trial is just around the corner and there are many that won't like reading about it in this thread and the good posts will get lost.

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Reply #658 posted 09/17/11 2:03pm

Timmy84

I never paid much attention to those type of media stories concerning Michael and I'm starting to be like bugz and not deal with his confusing as hell family. I've pretty much cleaned my hands on that situation going on with the tour and such.

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Reply #659 posted 09/17/11 3:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

I never paid much attention to those type of media stories concerning Michael and I'm starting to be like bugz and not deal with his confusing as hell family. I've pretty much cleaned my hands on that situation going on with the tour and such.

It was just for the best that I moved on lol I already know about their drama etc I don’t want to keep talking about it 24/7 and jermaine doing promo this week so I will be trying to avoid that lol I will always respect them for the music that will never change.

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