No. I genuinely cannot think of a singer I'd less want to hear.

The irony is that HIV stopped Freddie once and for all.

Timmy84 said:

unique said:

they were a rock band, not a soul band, so that's like asking miles davis what his most trance like record is like

I'm completely clear on the genre of music Queen did (and Miles Davis too; a trance record would most likely be instrumental anyway so vocals would be irrelevant), a soulful voice is not only germane to soul SINGERS. I was saying that for ME a soulful voice REGARDLESS of the genre is important. I think Adam Levine of Maroon 5 has a soulful voice and I don't expect them to DO R & B music. btw, ABTD got radio airplay on "black stations" because of its classic "bassline" and overall arrangement so elements of a song can "cross over" regardless of the genre the artist(s) is most known for.

unique said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

What about Janelle Monae?

And that's an unfair comparison because Michael's influence was less musical and more performance wise.

well you said it and not me

this thread is about "best male vocalist ever" and it's vocal we are talking about

you are right. MJ spent too much time dicking about with everything bar the music in his shows. fucking magic and wolf masks. who the fuck wants to see that shit. just shut the fuck up, stand still and sing your fucking songs. that's what people paid money to hear. not a fucking tape. what's the point of having a live band if the vocals are prerecorded?

look at the people inspired by that shit, britney spears and shit. MJ paved the way for shit like that

michaels shows were very theatrical, so the "magic" WAS WHAT HES ALL ABOUT.. in countless interviews michael has said he loves to create MAGIC..he wasn't just a "vocalist" he was the whole package, his shows were singing,dancing,theatrics,magic...he was an innovator.. to deny michael of his vocal talents is completely insane!

dm3857 said:

unique said:

well you said it and not me

this thread is about "best male vocalist ever" and it's vocal we are talking about

you are right. MJ spent too much time dicking about with everything bar the music in his shows. fucking magic and wolf masks. who the fuck wants to see that shit. just shut the fuck up, stand still and sing your fucking songs. that's what people paid money to hear. not a fucking tape. what's the point of having a live band if the vocals are prerecorded?

look at the people inspired by that shit, britney spears and shit. MJ paved the way for shit like that

michaels shows were very theatrical, so the "magic" WAS WHAT HES ALL ABOUT.. in countless interviews michael has said he loves to create MAGIC..he wasn't just a "vocalist" he was the whole package, his shows were singing,dancing,theatrics,magic...he was an innovator.. to deny michael of his vocal talents is completely insane!

well he ripped off his fans by denying them of his vocal talents, so as you say, he is insane

unique said:

dm3857 said:

michaels shows were very theatrical, so the "magic" WAS WHAT HES ALL ABOUT.. in countless interviews michael has said he loves to create MAGIC..he wasn't just a "vocalist" he was the whole package, his shows were singing,dancing,theatrics,magic...he was an innovator.. to deny michael of his vocal talents is completely insane!

well he ripped off his fans by denying them of his vocal talents, so as you say, he is insane

your twisting words.. and how did he rip off his fans when the victory tour was COMPLETELY live,the bad tour was COMPLETELY live, the dangerous tour was 80% live, the only tour that was mostly play back was the history.. so no.. that statement is incorrect.

dm3857 said:

unique said:

well he ripped off his fans by denying them of his vocal talents, so as you say, he is insane

your twisting words.. and how did he rip off his fans when the victory tour was COMPLETELY live,the bad tour was COMPLETELY live, the dangerous tour was 80% live, the only tour that was mostly play back was the history.. so no.. that statement is incorrect.

well the history tour alone was a rip off as you say it was mostly playback, denying his fans the chance to hear his vocal talents

and depending on who you listen to, the previous tour was approximately a third playback. again a rip off

no twisting words there. just simple plain facts. and as far as i can tell, at least thriller had at least part lipsynched if not the full or most of the track. just watch the videos carefully

so tell me again how someone can be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing onstage as much as that? during his own fucking concerts?

unique said:

dm3857 said:

your twisting words.. and how did he rip off his fans when the victory tour was COMPLETELY live,the bad tour was COMPLETELY live, the dangerous tour was 80% live, the only tour that was mostly play back was the history.. so no.. that statement is incorrect.

well the history tour alone was a rip off as you say it was mostly playback, denying his fans the chance to hear his vocal talents

and depending on who you listen to, the previous tour was approximately a third playback. again a rip off

no twisting words there. just simple plain facts. and as far as i can tell, at least thriller had at least part lipsynched if not the full or most of the track. just watch the videos carefully

so tell me again how someone can be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing onstage as much as that? during his own fucking concerts?

Because their voice is still their voice no matter what.

smoothcriminal12 said:

unique said:

well the history tour alone was a rip off as you say it was mostly playback, denying his fans the chance to hear his vocal talents

and depending on who you listen to, the previous tour was approximately a third playback. again a rip off

no twisting words there. just simple plain facts. and as far as i can tell, at least thriller had at least part lipsynched if not the full or most of the track. just watch the videos carefully

so tell me again how someone can be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing onstage as much as that? during his own fucking concerts?

Because their voice is still their voice no matter what.

what kind of person would go to a music concert and accept the artist miming?

and to answer the question correctly, how can someone be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing at their concerts?

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/58498

Queen and Pink Floyd were the only rock or pop acts who made the top 10 in the BBC's Desert Island Discs poll.

The results of the vote, which was launched in May, were announced on the BBC Radio 4 show by presenter Kirsty Young this morning (August 7). More than 25,000 listeners voted.

Freddie Mercury's band's rock opera 'Bohemian Rhapsody' came in fourth, behind classical tunes by the likes of Ludwig van Beethoven, Edward Elgar and the winner, Ralph Vaughan Williams' 'The Lark Ascending'.

Pink Floyd came in fifth ('Comfortably Numb'), 13th ('Wish You Were Here') and 31st ('Shine On You Crazy Diamond').

The Beatles scored eight entries, while The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin and The Beach Boys were among the other rock and pop acts with multiple entries.

Elbow's 'One Day Like This' (49) and Pulp's 'Common People' (86) were the only rock or pop tracks that had been released in the past 20 years.

Meanwhile, there were some notable absentees, including Michael Jackson, Madonna and Elvis Presley.

Head to BBC.co.uk/radio4 to read the full listen.

unique said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Because their voice is still their voice no matter what.

what kind of person would go to a music concert and accept the artist miming?

and to answer the question correctly, how can someone be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing at their concerts?

prince has lip synched...

1994 world music awards..

1995 american music awards

1999 on Solid Gold tv performance

does that take away from his vocal talent? NO!!! does that make him less of a musician?? NO!!!

dm3857 said:

dm3857 said:

unique said:

what kind of person would go to a music concert and accept the artist miming?

and to answer the question correctly, how can someone be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing at their concerts?

prince has lip synched...

1980 American Bandstand

1994 world music awards..

1995 Soul Train

1995 VH1 Fashion Awards

1995 american music awards

1999 on Solid Gold tv performance

does that take away from his vocal talent? NO!!! does that make him less of a musician?? NO!!!

Forgot some...

TylerHippie said:

dm3857 said:

prince has lip synched...

1994 world music awards..

1995 american music awards

1999 on Solid Gold tv performance

does that take away from his vocal talent? NO!!! does that make him less of a musician?? NO!!!

I thought you couldn't perform live on Solid Gold? And he obviously didn't have a mic at the 94 World Music Awards. I don't think he had a mic at the 95 World Music Awards either...

thats not all of them..and what does having a mic have to do with anything? it was still supposed to be a LIVE performance...like i said before..that DOESNT TAKE AWAY from your vocal talent..

dm3857 said:

TylerHippie said:

dm3857 said: I thought you couldn't perform live on Solid Gold? And he obviously didn't have a mic at the 94 World Music Awards. I don't think he had a mic at the 95 World Music Awards either...

thats not all of them..and what does having a mic have to do with anything? it was still supposed to be a LIVE performance...like i said before..that DOESNT TAKE AWAY from your vocal talent..

and im in NO way trying to bash prince, i love him and his music very much..im just trying to get across that lip syncing does NOT take away from your vocal ability.

Freddie is certainly a force to have been reckoned with back in the day of all those male Rock vocalists, but I would rather say that he was ONE of the BEST male vocalists ever. There are too, too many that share equal degress of "bestness." One of MY favorites ever would be Frankie Beverly. Then I heard Adam Lopez sing and was like..."OMG!...this dude's got the same whistle register as Mariah!" It's capability that truly blows ME away as far as vocal talent goes. Prince, Eric Benet or Brian McKnight, I find really impressive TOO. They're on their "A" Game as "best" male vocalists.

dm3857 said:

No, he's not.

TylerHippie said:

dm3857 said:

thats not all of them..and what does having a mic have to do with anything? it was still supposed to be a LIVE performance...like i said before..that DOESNT TAKE AWAY from your vocal talent..

Having a mic has everything to do with it. How you don't he was actually singing the song without the mic? This is not a good example seeing how he doesn't have a mic.

alright then, there are "rules" then here you go sir.

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/23214017[/vimeo]

I'm with dm3587... people are tripping.

dm3857 said:

TylerHippie said:

dm3857 said: Having a mic has everything to do with it. How you don't he was actually singing the song without the mic? This is not a good example seeing how he doesn't have a mic.

alright then, there are "rules" then here you go sir.

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/23214017[/vimeo]

Peopele weren't allowed to play live on those shows bro.

TylerHippie said:

dm3857 said:

alright then, there are "rules" then here you go sir.

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/23214017[/vimeo]

Peopele weren't allowed to play live on those shows bro.

i wasn't aware of that.. however..

and please know, that im NOT bashing prince

Timmy84 said:

I'm with dm3587... people are tripping.

thank you!

Lots of artists lip anyway. See vintage Soul Train. Most performers lipped with few exceptions (Patti except for that time she sang with Bobby Womack, who probably insisted on a lipped performance). Same with performers on American Bandstand. Hell Prince lipped on American Bandstand in '80! Anyways... this thread is so dead I can smell horse musk.

dm3857 said:

TylerHippie said:

Peopele weren't allowed to play live on those shows bro.

i wasn't aware of that.. however..

and please know, that im NOT bashing prince

You might have a point here.

Freddie Mercury once raped Billy Ocean.

I think Mick Hucknall had a really great voice, not sure about these days though?

dm3857 said:

unique said:

what kind of person would go to a music concert and accept the artist miming?

and to answer the question correctly, how can someone be considered a great vocalist when they avoid singing at their concerts?

prince has lip synched...

1994 world music awards..

1995 american music awards

1999 on Solid Gold tv performance

does that take away from his vocal talent? NO!!! does that make him less of a musician?? NO!!!

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firstly you can't post prince videos on this site - read the forum rules

secondly no-one wants to watch youtube clips on here. people have complained about that already

it seems you can't read as you can't read the rules, you can't read when people say they don't want youtubes, and you can't read when i say lip synch at concerts

don't you know the difference between a concert wher people buy tickets to pay to see the artist, compared to a tv show where most people watch on the telly? i already addressed that issue as artists can't always perform live, but prince in particular usually does so whenever he can. in fact i don't think he's lipsynched on a tv show since the 90s. i saw him do that at one show, and the previous nights show which i was also at he played live

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prince has NEVER lipsynched at any of his many concerts in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s or 10s. never, not once, not one single song

MJ stopped touring in the 90s after a tour that was almost all miming, after a previous tour that was at least a third of miming

so how can you possibly say someone who mimed at his concerts is a better singer than someone who was a notably great live singer?

freddies popularity gained huge bounds by his live aid performance. his live singing was what attracted many people to him. he was arguably better onstage than on record as the audience encouraged him to push his vocals. you can't say that about a lip syncher

NO! Its luther vandross or Marvin Gaye.

this man has a very creepy voice. I keep hearing people say he is the greatest male voice but really he can't hold a candle to luther, he would get blown away.

I love the tone of luther's sultry masculine voice.

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TotalAlisa said:

NO! Its luther vandross or Marvin Gaye.

this man has a very creepy voice. I keep hearing people say he is the greatest male voice but really he can't hold a candle to luther, he would get blown away.

I love the tone of luther's sultry masculine voice.

you mean gay singer luther vandross, masculine?

unique said:

taking a track from one of the shittest queen albums is hardly going to sell him

you sound soooo 1982-ish