Timmy84 said:

manthevan said:

Gene and Kiss actually met Michael already when he was in J5 I read somewhere. Plus Gene was with Diana Ross for a while in the early 80's or something and he supposedly met Michael now and then at that time. I wouldn't be surprised if Mike actually complimented Gene for his work back in the days. Michael seemed like the type of guy who would say "I love your work". However what Michael really thought is another story.

Probably but not to the extent where he was a devoted fan. You can like someone's work and not really be a fan. That's what Katherine and the Global Live folks were indicating that he was.

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Well, to be fair... you don't know either! Just because he never mentioned them doesn't mean that he wasn't a fan or didn't like them. I admit though, it seems rather unlikely/not the type of music he's known for liking.

It's not too far fetched of him to like KISS's work, he also liked Nine Inch Nails and from what I heard, industrial music.

I guess he could have like the theatricality (is that a word?) of the Kiss production!

Dangerous navy blue outfit, enough said

PatrickS77 said:

Timmy84 said:

Probably but not to the extent where he was a devoted fan. You can like someone's work and not really be a fan. That's what Katherine and the Global Live folks were indicating that he was.

[Edited 8/16/11 17:26pm]

Well, to be fair... you don't know either! Just because he never mentioned them doesn't mean that he wasn't a fan or didn't like them. I admit though, it seems rather unlikely/not the type of music he's known for liking.

That's what I meant. I'm sure he did like their work though. I mean KISS was bad-ass in the '70s.

alphastreet said:

It's not too far fetched of him to like KISS's work, he also liked Nine Inch Nails and from what I heard, industrial music.

It would impossible to get everyone that Michael liked on a stage because he seemed to have "liked" everyone. I've always heard of him calling up an artist (surprising them, of course) and telling them how much he likes their work.

Has he ever commented publically on acts he didn't like?

http://www.stereoboard.co...w/167311/9

^^

Thanks for posting, great article (if only they also talked about the fact that the kids appear in the terms and conditions of the concert, which everybody seems to forget

I wouldn't have had the money to go anyway, but I'm so boycotting this!

carinemjj said:

^^

Thanks for posting, great article (if only they also talked about the fact that the kids appear in the terms and conditions of the concert, which everybody seems to forget

I wouldn't have had the money to go anyway, but I'm so boycotting this!

You're welcome carinemjj Yeah they are making the kids be apart of this shameful sham! The family rep says they are excited to participate but I bet they're being forced into this and dont want to do it at all. According to the Michael Forever website registration for the tickets ends this Sunday, so I guess they'll go on sale after that. If they dont get enough sales, will they cancel this thing?

Family rep = Katherine, she said on TV that the kids were excited... they probably don,t know that her lovely gramma recieved a 100 000$ check to bring them and prostitute them at the concert...

If Katherine said : It's for your father, we will honor your daddy and it will be beautiful... of course they'll want to go... What else can they do, you imagine if the kids said 'no' to their gramma begging for the family to be together .... Iiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssshhhhh!

I guess Paris is aware of all that though since she' on the net (Twitter at least).

Katherine was able to manipulate a 40 year old Michael to bring his bros on the MSG 30th anniversary.. how easy for her is it to convince 3 kids to come to honor their daddy... She's got huge experience in convincing family members to do something they shouldn't do.

carinemjj said:

Family rep = Katherine, she said on TV that the kids were excited... they probably don,t know that her lovely gramma recieved a 100 000$ check to bring them and prostitute them at the concert...

If Katherine said : It's for your father, we will honor your daddy and it will be beautiful... of course they'll want to go... What else can they do, you imagine if the kids said 'no' to their gramma begging for the family to be together .... Iiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssshhhhh!

I guess Paris is aware of all that though since she' on the net (Twitter at least).

Katherine was able to manipulate a 40 year old Michael to bring his bros on the MSG 30th anniversary.. how easy for her is it to convince 3 kids to come to honor their daddy... She's got huge experience in convincing family members to do something they shouldn't do.

I dont know about Blanket but I think Prince and Paris can see through the motives of this tribute. They see that this concert is causing division within the family, with Jerm & Rand being the outspoken unsupporters of this and Janet, Joe, and Rebbie being the silent unsupporters of the tribute. And if they've gone to the Forever Michael Facebook page, they've seen all the uproar from the fans on that page. Some fans may have even tweeted their disgust to Paris too. I wonder what their feelings are on this whole fiasco.

Totally agree with you on Katherine having experience in manipulating family members to do stuff they dont want to. She's been doing it for years so it probably came easy for her to approach MJ3 about participating in this concert

I think Prince and Paris, being 14 and 13, know exactly what is going on - just like their father did at their ages when shit was going down. They know it's foul what's going on probably.

NaughtyKitty said:

I dont know about Blanket but I think Prince and Paris can see through the motives of this tribute. They see that this concert is causing division within the family, with Jerm & Rand being the outspoken unsupporters of this and Janet, Joe, and Rebbie being the silent unsupporters of the tribute. And if they've gone to the Forever Michael Facebook page, they've seen all the uproar from the fans on that page. Some fans may have even tweeted their disgust to Paris too. I wonder what their feelings are on this whole fiasco.

Totally agree with you on Katherine having experience in manipulating family members to do stuff they dont want to. She's been doing it for years so it probably came easy for her to approach MJ3 about participating in this concert

They are probably aware of all this, but still... how do you want them to say no to their grandma... The kids have so much to learn about this whole family, but they are in this family so either they do like Janet and get the hell outta there as soon as they can and try to stay sane, or they stay there, get caught and become just as weird as the rest of them.

Therapy's gonna be needed anyway.

Anyway, fo the concert, we'll see.... (sigh)

carinemjj said:

NaughtyKitty said:

I dont know about Blanket but I think Prince and Paris can see through the motives of this tribute. They see that this concert is causing division within the family, with Jerm & Rand being the outspoken unsupporters of this and Janet, Joe, and Rebbie being the silent unsupporters of the tribute. And if they've gone to the Forever Michael Facebook page, they've seen all the uproar from the fans on that page. Some fans may have even tweeted their disgust to Paris too. I wonder what their feelings are on this whole fiasco.

Totally agree with you on Katherine having experience in manipulating family members to do stuff they dont want to. She's been doing it for years so it probably came easy for her to approach MJ3 about participating in this concert

They are probably aware of all this, but still... how do you want them to say no to their grandma... The kids have so much to learn about this whole family, but they are in this family so either they do like Janet and get the hell outta there as soon as they can and try to stay sane, or they stay there, get caught and become just as weird as the rest of them.

Therapy's gonna be needed anyway.

Anyway, fo the concert, we'll see.... (sigh)

They cant say no so that's why I say they're being forced into this. They see whats going on and they probably dont like what they see. I dont think they really wanna be be a part of this thing but they dont really have a choice but to be involved.

I think Prince and Paris will definitely take the Janet route, we'll have to see what happens with Blanket.

Timmy84 said:

I think Prince and Paris, being 14 and 13, know exactly what is going on - just like their father did at their ages when shit was going down. They know it's foul what's going on probably.

I agree. And like their dad, are being forced into making appearances regardless of their feelings.

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

I think Prince and Paris, being 14 and 13, know exactly what is going on - just like their father did at their ages when shit was going down. They know it's foul what's going on probably.

I agree. And like their dad, are being forced into making appearances regardless of their feelings.

Right. I'm sure when they become of age and are old enough to make their own decisions, which isn't far from now, they'll decide what to do if the family keeps asking them to be a part of this. How long will their "your father will love this" excuses last before they get tired of it?

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

I agree. And like their dad, are being forced into making appearances regardless of their feelings.

Right. I'm sure when they become of age and are old enough to make their own decisions, which isn't far from now, they'll decide what to do if the family keeps asking them to be a part of this. How long will their "your father will love this" excuses last before they get tired of it?

How I see this (not that it's ineteresting or anything but...)

If (when) this concert gets cancelled, the family will blame the Estate for trying to stop this poooooor old woman from honoring her son. They will also 'blame' the fans by saying they listened to the fans and stopped it...

But they'll still tell the kids that the Estate and the fans doesn't love them, which, with time, can leave marks. They'll see how the love they get from fans, but hear their family say the fans don't care about the Jackson family, them being able to see what,s real and not will not be easy, especially growing up in the middle of this family, surrounded by people with who they spent their entire days, have fun with, go out with and spend holiday with.

carinemjj said:

Timmy84 said:

Right. I'm sure when they become of age and are old enough to make their own decisions, which isn't far from now, they'll decide what to do if the family keeps asking them to be a part of this. How long will their "your father will love this" excuses last before they get tired of it?

How I see this (not that it's ineteresting or anything but...)

If (when) this concert gets cancelled, the family will blame the Estate for trying to stop this poooooor old woman from honoring her son. They will also 'blame' the fans by saying they listened to the fans and stopped it...

But they'll still tell the kids that the Estate and the fans doesn't love them, which, with time, can leave marks. They'll see how the love they get from fans, but hear their family say the fans don't care about the Jackson family, them being able to see what,s real and not will not be easy, especially growing up in the middle of this family, surrounded by people with who they spent their entire days, have fun with, go out with and spend holiday with.

I can believe it. Being around that spawn, it's hard not to rub it off.

Timmy84 said:

carinemjj said:

How I see this (not that it's ineteresting or anything but...)

If (when) this concert gets cancelled, the family will blame the Estate for trying to stop this poooooor old woman from honoring her son. They will also 'blame' the fans by saying they listened to the fans and stopped it...

But they'll still tell the kids that the Estate and the fans doesn't love them, which, with time, can leave marks. They'll see how the love they get from fans, but hear their family say the fans don't care about the Jackson family, them being able to see what,s real and not will not be easy, especially growing up in the middle of this family, surrounded by people with who they spent their entire days, have fun with, go out with and spend holiday with.

I can believe it. Being around that spawn, it's hard not to rub it off.

That would be awful too, but I can see it happening. Maybe as soon as Prince turns 18 he'll leave, get a place of his own and take Paris and Blanket with him.

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NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

I can believe it. Being around that spawn, it's hard not to rub it off.

That would be awful too, but I can see it happening. Maybe as soon as Prince turns 18 he'll leave, get a place of his own and take Paris and Blanket with him.

[Edited 8/19/11 13:44pm]

Don't you all have something better to do than to worry about some rich kids. They'll have more money than they can spend and they've got family and friends that care for them. I am sure there are a lot of other kids that could use your concern though

manthevan said:

Don't you all have something better to do than to worry about some rich kids. They'll have more money than they can spend and they've got family and friends that care for them. I am sure there are a lot of other kids that could use your concern though

Since this is a thread about the Jacksons we're talking about Jacksons kids, you're free to start a thread about Rwanda, Somalia, Russia or whatever kids in need you want, for now, mind you, we care about those kids, rich or not, cause it looks like money doesn't always = hapiness.

Thanks for your concern. And since all you previous posts are related to the Jacksons, if you don't care about those kids's future, it's your choice.

Pardon us for caring, we didn't know it was against the rules

[Edited 8/19/11 17:08pm]

I'm not even gonna respond. You're free to believe what you want man.

manthevan said:

Don't you all have something better to do than to worry about some rich kids. They'll have more money than they can spend and they've got family and friends that care for them. I am sure there are a lot of other kids that could use your concern though

Oh and by the way, since you care so much more about kids in need that we do, you may want to contribute to my fundraising I'm doing over the year for sick kids in my area

http://prince.org/msg/100/363145

You may also want to donate to UNICEF for Kids starving in the horn of Africa like I did too, there are never too many people donating you know

http://inside.unicefusa.org/site/TR/Events/General?pg=team&fr_id=1050&team_id=22520

L.O.V.E.

[Edited 8/19/11 17:35pm]

Whatever, there will always be people, who are lonely and bored, who have nothing better to do with their time then to seek out attention on internet messageboards. They like to go into threads and type up some BS but try to act like they're above it all and better than the other posters. And they think they've accomplished something worthwhile. Pity them

NaughtyKitty said:

Whatever, there will always be people, who are lonely and bored, who have nothing better to do with their time then to seek out attention on internet messageboards. They like to go into threads and type up some BS but try to act like they're above it all and better than the other posters. And they think they've accomplished something worthwhile. Pity them

I can't ...

i think mj fans are to deeply involved with his kids and estate, he is the only deceased pop star whos fans get so involved in matters that really dont concern them. seems like fans are always trying to seperate his kids from the rest of the jacksons, 'they need to get away from those people', i hope they dont grow up like them',ect. well last i checked mj was a jackson which makes his kids jacksons, so blanket and nem are no different then jermajesty and all the other grandkids in the eyes of the jacksons. the kids are with their blood relatives (at least thats what fans have been saying), no matter how hard some try they will never convince the kids that their daddy's fans love and care for them more then their family. a whole lot of people are making money off mj's name,likeness,legacy but the only people fans ahve a problem with is his own flesh n blood, go figure

lowkey said:

i think mj fans are to deeply involved with his kids and estate, he is the only deceased pop star whos fans get so involved in matters that really dont concern them. seems like fans are always trying to seperate his kids from the rest of the jacksons, 'they need to get away from those people', i hope they dont grow up like them',ect. well last i checked mj was a jackson which makes his kids jacksons, so blanket and nem are no different then jermajesty and all the other grandkids in the eyes of the jacksons. the kids are with their blood relatives (at least thats what fans have been saying), no matter how hard some try they will never convince the kids that their daddy's fans love and care for them more then their family. a whole lot of people are making money off mj's name,likeness,legacy but the only people fans ahve a problem with is his own flesh n blood, go figure

THANK YOU! some fans get to emotionally involved. No family is perfect and some of Michael's family do shady things but to think some fans actually think they care more about him than his familt is laughable. Some act like they knew Michael personally, i swear a few would love to ride a unicorn to kidnap his children and raise them in a castle over a rainbow where they won't be tainted. Like seriously they need to chill, Michael's kiss are with their family where they belong. Fans hate when the media and other people say Prince, Paris and Blanket aren't Jacksons yet they segregate them from their family as well...hypocrisy much? they hate when their looks are dissected yet they do the same. I think some have transferred their obsession from MJ onto his kids, they aren't and will never be him so they should give them space and let them live.

lowkey said:

i think mj fans are to deeply involved with his kids and estate, he is the only deceased pop star whos fans get so involved in matters that really dont concern them. seems like fans are always trying to seperate his kids from the rest of the jacksons, 'they need to get away from those people', i hope they dont grow up like them',ect. well last i checked mj was a jackson which makes his kids jacksons, so blanket and nem are no different then jermajesty and all the other grandkids in the eyes of the jacksons. the kids are with their blood relatives (at least thats what fans have been saying), no matter how hard some try they will never convince the kids that their daddy's fans love and care for them more then their family. a whole lot of people are making money off mj's name,likeness,legacy but the only people fans ahve a problem with is his own flesh n blood, go figure

+1

my thoughts exactly

[Edited 8/20/11 3:27am]

mimi07 said:

lowkey said:

i think mj fans are to deeply involved with his kids and estate, he is the only deceased pop star whos fans get so involved in matters that really dont concern them. seems like fans are always trying to seperate his kids from the rest of the jacksons, 'they need to get away from those people', i hope they dont grow up like them',ect. well last i checked mj was a jackson which makes his kids jacksons, so blanket and nem are no different then jermajesty and all the other grandkids in the eyes of the jacksons. the kids are with their blood relatives (at least thats what fans have been saying), no matter how hard some try they will never convince the kids that their daddy's fans love and care for them more then their family. a whole lot of people are making money off mj's name,likeness,legacy but the only people fans ahve a problem with is his own flesh n blood, go figure

THANK YOU! some fans get to emotionally involved. No family is perfect and some of Michael's family do shady things but to think some fans actually think they care more about him than his familt is laughable. Some act like they knew Michael personally, i swear a few would love to ride a unicorn to kidnap his children and raise them in a castle over a rainbow where they won't be tainted. Like seriously they need to chill, Michael's kiss are with their family where they belong. Fans hate when the media and other people say Prince, Paris and Blanket aren't Jacksons yet they segregate them from their family as well...hypocrisy much? they hate when their looks are dissected yet they do the same. I think some have transferred their obsession from MJ onto his kids, they aren't and will never be him so they should give them space and let them live.