LittleBLUECorvette said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Talk about irony! This whole thing is beyond strange! First off this whole concert seemed shady, then things got weird, now its just plain CRAZY!

So who thinks Gene is doin this concert to pull some kuiind of anti-MJ stunt on stage?

You think there was a riot in London recently...

Wait.

NaughtyKitty said:

Right! Mr. "This is so wrong to have this concert during the trial all attn should be on justice for my bro" is have his own book come out in $EPTEMBER! And he'll probably be making the media rounds for promotion of his book. I dont think Jermaine actually cares about this concert happening during the trial. I bet what really happend is that he wasnt asked to participate in this concert, and he wont be getting any of the $$ made from it. And that's what bothers him imo.

Not that I care much about Germ, or believe him... but he said his books comes out before the trial (which starts on Sept 20th) and he said he'd stop promoting his book on Sept. 19th... Hum... let's see

carinemjj said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

So who thinks Gene is doin this concert to pull some kuiind of anti-MJ stunt on stage?

You think there was a riot in London recently...

Wait.

It depends on HOW many actually SHOW up.

How many seats does the stadium carry? I would think about 15,000 or so (I gotta check). I bet they only get 100.

Sorry but who is giving Katherine advice if anyone? She gets involved with all kinds of people who tried to get money off Michael, and now is involving Gene Simmons? Does she KNOW what he said? Can someone TELL her?

Timmy84 said:

carinemjj said:

You think there was a riot in London recently...

Wait.

It depends on HOW many actually SHOW up.

How many seats does the stadium carry? I would think about 15,000 or so (I gotta check). I bet they only get 100.

74 000 capacity

But I highly doubt they'll go more than 10 000 actually...

But since the concert is supposed to be broadcast around the globe.

Riots can starts...anywhere.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

So who thinks Gene is doin this concert to pull some kuiind of anti-MJ stunt on stage?

I don't know. I don't put it past him but I think he and KISS are gonna act like they oh so loved him... lol well I don't know how Paul and 'em felt about him but maybe just Gene.

And I forgot about this interview Gene did too. Its unbelievable that he will be paying tribute to MJ. Surely somebody had to had informed Katherine about the things Gene said about her son!

KISS rocker Gene Simmons says there is “no question” in his mind that Michael Jackson molested children.

The 60-year-old also claims he knows a former Michael Jackson musician who quit from touring with the King of Pop because “of seeing boys coming out of the hotel rooms.”

The Demon – real name Chaim Witz – made the allegations in the new edition of Classic Rock Magazine where he said he had pleasant memories of Jackson in his younger years, but this soon changed when the child abuse allegations arose.

“As time moved on, and no matter what my fond memories and fond images of Michael were, with one allegation of paedophilia after another and another and another… Oh dear,” he explained.

“I knew some of the musicians he toured with, and specifically one who quit because of seeing boys coming out of the hotel rooms. And then you factor in that his travel agent was put on the stand and in court said that she was authorised to fly to Brazil and bring boys back to America for him…

“Well, you know, where there’s smoke there’s fire. There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.

“Michael’s on tape going, ‘Give the kids Jesus juice.’ Which is wine. I mean, it’s just endless.

“There’s never been a single female of any age that I’ve ever known about who has ever made a claim that she has had a physical relationship with Michael, ever.

“In fact, while he was alive, I never heard about mature men ever making that claim either – and believe me, you can’t keep it a secret. If you’re a celebrity, somebody somewhere will say, ‘Oh yeah, I shagged him.’

“The only sexual references ever made about Michael Jackson that were made by anyone, anywhere around the world, have always been made by kids, and specifically males usually 10 to 14 years of age; never females, that age or older, and never grown men.

“Oh, I don’t think this is going away any time soon.”

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

Thank you! I don't think Jermaine was even offered money. Hmm I wonder if the book he's gonna put out next month says some scathing things about his "dear mother" then lmao I doubt it though but this is just bizarre.

Right! Mr. "This is so wrong to have this concert during the trial all attn should be on justice for my bro" is have his own book come out in $EPTEMBER! And he'll probably be making the media rounds for promotion of his book. I dont think Jermaine actually cares about this concert happening during the trial. I bet what really happend is that he wasnt asked to participate in this concert, and he wont be getting any of the $$ made from it. And that's what bothers him imo.

Right. I don't know how Randy feels but maybe he truly feels this is wrong but who knows with Randy but Jermaine definitely has that "they didn't give me money so fuck them, I'm doing my own shit." I think mentally none of that family has let that stigma from Jermaine splitting from the group in 1975 following the group's exit from Motown. That's a hard grudge to get over for them I guess. Jermaine still has a "me against all of them" factor while the other Jacksons have their own agendas.

carinemjj said:

Timmy84 said:

It depends on HOW many actually SHOW up.

How many seats does the stadium carry? I would think about 15,000 or so (I gotta check). I bet they only get 100.

74 000 capacity

But I highly doubt they'll go more than 10 000 actually...

But since the concert is supposed to be broadcast around the globe.

Riots can starts...anywhere.

I forgot it was broadcasted. But how do I have a feeling that this concert WILL be canceled before it reaches that date?

alphastreet said:

Sorry but who is giving Katherine advice if anyone? She gets involved with all kinds of people who tried to get money off Michael, and now is involving Gene Simmons? Does she KNOW what he said? Can someone TELL her?

The people she's associating with are keeping her blinded with the prospects of money this would make for her and her groveling children.

carinemjj said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Right! Mr. "This is so wrong to have this concert during the trial all attn should be on justice for my bro" is have his own book come out in $EPTEMBER! And he'll probably be making the media rounds for promotion of his book. I dont think Jermaine actually cares about this concert happening during the trial. I bet what really happend is that he wasnt asked to participate in this concert, and he wont be getting any of the $$ made from it. And that's what bothers him imo.

Not that I care much about Germ, or believe him... but he said his books comes out before the trial (which starts on Sept 20th) and he said he'd stop promoting his book on Sept. 19th... Hum... let's see

Jury selection starts Sept. 8th, but opening statements are supposed to start Sept. 20th. Amazon.com lists Jerm's book coming out on Sept. 13th, about a week after jury selection and a week before opening statements. If he remains true to his word, he's got a week to promote the book. But Jacksons arent really known for keeping their word

So many times, I want to be with these Jacksons, but they are like a wreck I can't get away from. I only care for Michael, Janet and mj's kids kinda....I'm kinda cool with Marlon, Katherine, Latoya, and Jermaine, but I also question actions all the time, especially from Katherine lately.

Timmy84 said:

carinemjj said:

74 000 capacity

But I highly doubt they'll go more than 10 000 actually...

But since the concert is supposed to be broadcast around the globe.

Riots can starts...anywhere.

I forgot it was broadcasted. But how do I have a feeling that this concert WILL be canceled before it reaches that date?

Before and after June 25, 2009, the Jackson family have managed to dismantle their own legacy by nearly selling their son/brother under the river for the sake of getting paid. I now wonder if they were really a true family to begin with pre-fame.

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:

I forgot it was broadcasted. But how do I have a feeling that this concert WILL be canceled before it reaches that date?

i think i will be cancelled as well. assuming it doesn't however, i don't see it being broadcast. sony and the estate have rights that they will use; global won't get copyright clearance.

I was gonna ask do they even have permission to broadcast it? I definitely see a cancellation before it goes forward. Plus, I doubt any KISS fan would go to a concert where it has MICHAEL JACKSON headlined unless they loved both equally.

Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:

i think i will be cancelled as well. assuming it doesn't however, i don't see it being broadcast. sony and the estate have rights that they will use; global won't get copyright clearance.

I was gonna ask do they even have permission to broadcast it? I definitely see a cancellation before it goes forward. Plus, I doubt any KISS fan would go to a concert where it has MICHAEL JACKSON headlined unless they loved both equally.

they still can't broadcast it, cause they'd need the Estate approval.. and I think it just died:

The Estate’s response re Tribute concert (paraphrased): The Estate is outraged, and we’ll be issuing a statement today.

This whole tribute sounds like a travesty waiting to happen

carinemjj said:

Timmy84 said:

I was gonna ask do they even have permission to broadcast it? I definitely see a cancellation before it goes forward. Plus, I doubt any KISS fan would go to a concert where it has MICHAEL JACKSON headlined unless they loved both equally.

they still can't broadcast it, cause they'd need the Estate approval.. and I think it just died:

The Estate’s response re Tribute concert (paraphrased): The Estate is outraged, and we’ll be issuing a statement today.

I was waiting for them to say something. Guess they were waiting to see what kinda stunts Katherine was pulling. They may even threaten to cut Katherine off of her own allowance. What a mess.

carinemjj said:

Timmy84 said:

I was gonna ask do they even have permission to broadcast it? I definitely see a cancellation before it goes forward. Plus, I doubt any KISS fan would go to a concert where it has MICHAEL JACKSON headlined unless they loved both equally.

they still can't broadcast it, cause they'd need the Estate approval.. and I think it just died:

The Estate’s response re Tribute concert (paraphrased): The Estate is outraged, and we’ll be issuing a statement today.

Ooooh this oughtta be good! The Estate is gonna lay the smackdown on Global Live

I think they were at least pre-fame. But sadly they let all the fame and money change their priorites after getting all that success.

NaughtyKitty said:

carinemjj said:

Ooooh this oughtta be good! The Estate is gonna lay the smackdown on Global Live

Before and after June 25, 2009, the Jackson family have managed to dismantle their own legacy by nearly selling their son/brother under the river for the sake of getting paid. I now wonder if they were really a true family to begin with pre-fame.

I think they were at least pre-fame. But sadly they let all the fame and money change their priorites after getting all that success.

So true.

Timmy84 said:

carinemjj said:

they still can't broadcast it, cause they'd need the Estate approval.. and I think it just died:

The Estate’s response re Tribute concert (paraphrased): The Estate is outraged, and we’ll be issuing a statement today.

I was waiting for them to say something. Guess they were waiting to see what kinda stunts Katherine was pulling. They may even threaten to cut Katherine off of her own allowance. What a mess.

Timmy84 said:

carinemjj said:

they still can't broadcast it, cause they'd need the Estate approval.. and I think it just died:

The Estate’s response re Tribute concert (paraphrased): The Estate is outraged, and we’ll be issuing a statement today.

I was waiting for them to say something. Guess they were waiting to see what kinda stunts Katherine was pulling. They may even threaten to cut Katherine off of her own allowance. What a mess.

Yeah, I've been waiting on an official response too. They legally could pull the plug on all of it considering they didn't get the estate's permission. I'm sure Katherine as Michael's mother feels like she shouldn't have to get permission to do anything related to her son but I'm sure she doesn't have problem collecting those monthly allowances (or whatever the arrangement is) from the estate either I'm more surprised by her more than anything. I don't know the details, as I don't follow it enough but this whole thing smells bad. It reeks of desperation and greed to me.

KISS joins Michael Jackson tribute line-up

KISS signed up to pay tribute to Michael Jackson in an October concert.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

• NEW: Some Jackson fans object to KISS performing because of Gene Simmons' comments
• NEW: Many of Michael Jackson's back up musician will reuniute for the tribute
• Christina Aguilera, Leona Lewis, Smokey Robinson, Cee Lo Green and JLS are also signed
• Two generations of the Jackson family will take the stage in the Cardiff, Wales, show

Los Angeles (CNN) -- The legendary rock band KISS signed up to pay tribute to Michael Jackson in an October concert that will also headline Christina Aguilera, Leona Lewis, Smokey Robinson, Cee Lo Green and JLS, the promoters told CNN Monday.

Musicians who played in Jackson's touring band for the past two decades will also reunite as the house band for "Michael Forever: The Tribute Concert" in Cardiff, Wales, according to promoter Global Live Events.

Kevin Dorsey, who served as musical director for several Michael Jackson tours, will also direct the October 8 show, it was announced Monday.

Katherine Jackson, matriarch of the musical family, appeared on CNN Monday to discuss the show, which will also include performances by her children and grandchildren.

"I know he would be very excited about KISS," Michael Jackson's mother said.

But fan reaction posted on the concert's Facebook page was negative to news that KISS would perform.

"This is a complete disgrace," wrote one fan. "You can kiss your audience goodbye folks. I doubt whether any self-respecting fan will pay a penny to see that man after the comments he made about Michael. I'm shocked this act was even considered."

Many of the negative comments referred to a story published by the Canadian Press a week after Jackson's death on June 25, 2009, quoting KISS leader Gene Simmons concerning sexual molestation allegations against the pop star.

The promoter appeared unaware of the controversy Monday when CNN asked for a reaction.

It appeared unlikely the tribute stage would be the scene for a reunion for the surviving members of the Jackson 5. Two of the brothers, Jermaine and Randy, have publicly objected to the show being held at the same time Michael Jackson's doctor is on trial for his death.

"We want to make clear that this does not reflect the position of the entire family," the two brothers said in a joint statement after their mother and four siblings endorsed the show.

"While we wholeheartedly support the spirit of a tribute that honors our brother, we find it impossible to support an event that is due to take place during the criminal trial surrounding Michael's death," Jermaine and Randy Jackson said.

Dr. Conrad Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial begins in September and is expected to continue through October.

"The trial is very important and I can understand how Randy and Jermaine feel, but it's been two years," Katherine Jackson told CNN Monday. "I thought it was a good idea; I'd like to keep Michael's legacy alive."

Katherine Jackson plans to attend the trial, although she will miss some days to fly to Wales to attend the show with Michael Jackson's children, she said.

"It will be on a Saturday when the courtroom is dark," Paul Ring, a Global Live Events executive said.

Members of the Jackson family taking the stage October 8 include several of Michael Jackson's brothers, "the next generation of Jacksons," and 3T, which consists of Tito Jackson's three sons, the promoters said.

Alternative rock band Alien Ant Farm and British R&B singer Craig David are also on the bill.

"This concert will unite various generations and musical genres, reminding everyone of just how amazing a talent Michael was," Ring said.

Fans can "register their interest for tickets" online at www.michaelforevertribute.com.

The concert in the Wales Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, which seats 75,000 people, would be at least four hours long, Global Live Events CEO Chris Hunt said.

A spokesman for Michael Jackson's estate said last month that the promoters never sought or obtained permission from the estate's executors to use the late pop singer's name or image.

"The estate has not been contacted and is not involved with Global Live Events in the UK tribute concert announced today," spokesman Jim Bates told CNN at the time.

http://edition.cnn.com/20...bute.kiss/

I cant believe Katherine actually said that statement that I bolded. It has to be a misquote. If she really did say that then wow. Just wow. I have no words.

And some fans saying that at the press conference today Jermaine and Randy were there and were laughing about something??? Mmmmkay I think imma have to give up trying to understand this whole thing...

OK I just watched the video of this press conference on CNN's website:

http://edition.cnn.com/vi...ribute.cnn

Katherine really did say that comment and Jermaine and Randy were there as well---laughing about something. They werent in the same studio w/Katherine, but it looked like they were standing by, live, somewhere, listening to what all was being said. But they didnt say anything.

[Edited 8/15/11 13:10pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

KISS joins Michael Jackson tribute line-up

"The trial is very important and I can understand how Randy and Jermaine feel, but it's been two years," Katherine Jackson told CNN Monday. "I thought it was a good idea; I'd like to keep Michael's legacy alive."

Yes katherine, it's been 2 years, but Murray is still free, so no, it still isn't the time for a tribute, it's time for justice. Michael ain't gonna be less dead in 3 years for the 5th anniversary...

Just cancel the whole thing and go to sleep Kathy.

Fuck you Katherine, fuck you Joseph, fuck you Rebbie, fuck you Jackie, fuck you Tito, fuck you Jermaine, fuck you La Toya, fuck you Marlon, fuck you Randy, fuck all of you. I feel like playing "Hit 'Em Up" by 2Pac because of this bullshit.

"Five shots but you punks didn't finish, now you're about to feel the wrath of a menace, nigga I'll hit 'em up!"

"It's been 2 years". What kind of bullshit is that?

Timmy84 said:

Fuck you Katherine, fuck you Joseph, fuck you Rebbie, fuck you Jackie, fuck you Tito, fuck you Jermaine, fuck you La Toya, fuck you Marlon, fuck you Randy, fuck all of you. I feel like playing "Hit 'Em Up" by 2Pac because of this bullshit.

"Five shots but you punks didn't finish, now you're about to feel the wrath of a menace, nigga I'll hit 'em up!"

"It's been 2 years". What kind of bullshit is that?

Did you watch the video Timmy? I was having a hard time believing she actually said that quote. Then I watched the video and I had to pic my jaw up off the floor. What mother says something like that about the death of their own child? A parent NEVER gets over the death of a child--it can be 20 years later and they will still feel pain. And I still dont get why Jerm and Rand were there but didnt say anything. I dont have anymore words for this!

Timmy84 said:

Fuck you Katherine, fuck you Joseph, fuck you Rebbie, fuck you Jackie, fuck you Tito, fuck you Jermaine, fuck you La Toya, fuck you Marlon, fuck you Randy, fuck all of you. I feel like playing "Hit 'Em Up" by 2Pac because of this bullshit.

"Five shots but you punks didn't finish, now you're about to feel the wrath of a menace, nigga I'll hit 'em up!"

"It's been 2 years". What kind of bullshit is that?

Hey Timmy,

Why don't you tell us how you reallly feel? Na, I feel ya. It's really sad

If I was interviewing them, I would have asked for the names of the charities. If this thing blows up in their faces as an obvious ploy for money, they can forget future support from Michael's fans. Hell, it appears that that is happening already based on the inclusion of KISS.

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck you Katherine, fuck you Joseph, fuck you Rebbie, fuck you Jackie, fuck you Tito, fuck you Jermaine, fuck you La Toya, fuck you Marlon, fuck you Randy, fuck all of you. I feel like playing "Hit 'Em Up" by 2Pac because of this bullshit.

"Five shots but you punks didn't finish, now you're about to feel the wrath of a menace, nigga I'll hit 'em up!"

"It's been 2 years". What kind of bullshit is that?

Did you watch the video Timmy? I was having a hard time believing she actually said that quote. Then I watched the video and I had to pic my jaw up off the floor. What mother says something like that about the death of their own child? A parent NEVER gets over the death of a child--it can be 20 years later and they will still feel pain. And I still dont get why Jerm and Rand were there but didnt say anything. I dont have anymore words for this!

I'm TOO DISGUSTED to watch. This woman used her son if you believe the biographies printed about the family. She was just as bad as Joe at it and then on top of it, you got some groveling so-called grown-ass men and women who don't know how to be a brother or sister trying to get him for money. They don't care about sense, dollar bills have always been their weakness since leaving Gary.