nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

Thanks.

But wasn't the album released in December 2010

Yeah.

You can see the vitiligo starting on the back of his arm

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^ interesting

Actually, I found this interesting. Didn't know he had it so early. Someone told me that someone vitiligo can go away in some parts and then return..

MyLuv229 said:

Actually, I found this interesting. Didn't know he had it so early. Someone told me that someone vitiligo can go away in some parts and then return..

Never seen it and yes it does reveal alot-poor Mike

^ Once I saw that photo, I was convinced he had it longer than he had it. And this picture looks 1977, 1978-ish. I think he said he discovered it during the Off the Wall era.

Timmy84 said:

^ Once I saw that photo, I was convinced he had it longer than he had it. And this picture looks 1977, 1978-ish. I think he said he discovered it during the Off the Wall era.

Aww poor Mike and just think about all the folks who didn't believe he had it

nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

^ Once I saw that photo, I was convinced he had it longer than he had it. And this picture looks 1977, 1978-ish. I think he said he discovered it during the Off the Wall era.

Aww poor Mike and just think about all the folks who didn't believe he had it

This is why Michael's life was difficult. I can't imagine what I would've done in his shoes.

Considering it was such a big deal in the media.. and let's not forgot that ridiculous 3 Kings movie that mentioned his skin bleaching... I really wish Michael did a photoshoot without all the makeup and just showed his real skin. Perhaps a photo collection of all these pics that give evidence of it. I know saying it on Oprah should be enough, but obviously, it wasn't.

It's sad that the general public still won't believe him. Even now, haters still say he's a self-hating black man and then project their own issues of race on him.

MyLuv229 said:

Considering it was such a big deal in the media.. and let's not forgot that ridiculous 3 Kings movie that mentioned his skin bleaching... I really wish Michael did a photoshoot without all the makeup and just showed his real skin. Perhaps a photo collection of all these pics that give evidence of it. I know saying it on Oprah should be enough, but obviously, it wasn't.

It's sad that the general public still won't believe him. Even now, haters still say he's a self-hating black man and then project their own issues of race on him.

I know right? Just fucking sad, man.

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

Aww poor Mike and just think about all the folks who didn't believe he had it

This is why Michael's life was difficult. I can't imagine what I would've done in his shoes.

Yeah I feel bad now even I at one time didn't believe him and it is obvious in these pics that he did have it. imagine being such a superstar and having to deal with a discoloration sad

nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

This is why Michael's life was difficult. I can't imagine what I would've done in his shoes.

Yeah I feel bad now even I at one time didn't believe him and it is obvious in these pics that he did have it. imagine being such a superstar and having to deal with a discoloration sad

When you have so little info, people believe what they believe. Thing is when he first said it I believed him because I saw what it did to the skin soon afterwards so after that I stopped thinking he didn't wanna be black and I was like nine. At the same breath I still dug him anyway even if he didn't say it because I was already a big fan.

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

Yeah I feel bad now even I at one time didn't believe him and it is obvious in these pics that he did have it. imagine being such a superstar and having to deal with a discoloration sad

When you have so little info, people believe what they believe. Thing is when he first said it I believed him because I saw what it did to the skin soon afterwards so after that I stopped thinking he didn't wanna be black and I was like nine. At the same breath I still dug him anyway even if he didn't say it because I was already a big fan.

I was still a fan no matter what even through the trial and all I still loved me some Michael-I miss him too

nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

When you have so little info, people believe what they believe. Thing is when he first said it I believed him because I saw what it did to the skin soon afterwards so after that I stopped thinking he didn't wanna be black and I was like nine. At the same breath I still dug him anyway even if he didn't say it because I was already a big fan.

I was still a fan no matter what even through the trial and all I still loved me some Michael-I miss him too

I didn't know why he looked whiter than ever every time I did see him over the years, but I had a music video from the Thriller era and just told myself it's all him, I'm too young to understand and let it go though I thought it was odd and would innocently ask if he's black or not, but it just meant that people who can't make sense of something will resist it or even laugh about it, at what they don't understand. But then a classmate said it was a disease when I said I looove him but I don't know what happened to his skin (I thought he was good looking anyways but had no idea I felt that yet) and that was my first time hearing he had a disease and that's why he wore makeup, and then when I started going on fansites to learn about him cause I was going crazy, vitiligo was mentioned and then I got it though I was still unsure about exactly what it was until I found websites. I used to get very angry if people hated him for the skin colour change and make jokes, but once the trial jokes started, those became a walk in the park in comparison

So clarification - did Jason Milachi or post the statement. The weird thing with that facebook page was that it didn't have any other wall posts - but it did have a lot of friends... so who knows. It could be a prank - or a case of fraud - it's all too confusing now.

And if it is a fraud then it sadly doesn't resolve things - the non-fake believers will use it as proof, and the fake believers will attest to a cover up. Damn stupidity.

And just goes to show how much media check their sources, lol. In a world of 24 hours news - truth it seems is the first casualty.

MyLuv229 said:

Actually, I found this interesting. Didn't know he had it so early. Someone told me that someone vitiligo can go away in some parts and then return..

What's with the datestamp? Or is it a photo of a photo?

Swa said:

MyLuv229 said:

Actually, I found this interesting. Didn't know he had it so early. Someone told me that someone vitiligo can go away in some parts and then return..

What's with the datestamp? Or is it a photo of a photo?

A photo of a photo. You could tell it's either from a scanned picture or a book and someone took the picture of it.

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I wish Michael had been a bit more open re the vitiligo too. I can kind of understand tho how alot of people would think Michael purposely wanted to be white....when you look at the fact that Michael had nose jobs to make his nose more caucasian,its easy to think that.

The Jason Malachi thing is strange. That fb profile was set up in 2008, his official website links to it, his family are all on there - so why say it isnt his page?

xlad said:

The Jason Malachi thing is strange. That fb profile was set up in 2008, his official website links to it, his family are all on there - so why say it isnt his page?

That's true! And also, I know friends...including the org's Militant, who've been friend with Jason since before Michael passed...that's his damn facebook page.

And now they tryna say "Oh it's a hoax..y'all full of crap. You can't say this.."....He finally admitted what we all knew all along.

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Hopefully Malachi will be backing this up at some point. You can't make a big statement like that on Facebook and then leave it. Would be good to see if an official statement is released. Sony aren't likely to reply to a Facebook comment surely???

CPest1 said:

Hopefully Malachi will be backing this up at some point. You can't make a big statement like that on Facebook and then leave it. Would be good to see if an official statement is released. Sony aren't likely to reply to a Facebook comment surely???

Apparently Malachi's facebook was hacked. Hmmm we'll see....

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Hey, what is this? I know some of the titles, but are most of these Toto tracks??

http://cocatalog.loc.gov/...?V2444P272

List of titles:

001 Anything can happen / By Steve Porcaro, Paul Gordon & Tom Keane. PA 274-225 (1985)

002 English eyes / By Steve Porcaro, David Paich, Jeff Porcaro & Bobby Kimball.

003 Exist / By Steve Porcaro. PAu 828-149 (1986)

004 Human nature / By Steve Porcaro & John Bettis. PAu 460-729 (1982)

005 The Hurt / By Steve Porcaro, David Paich, Michael Jackson & Randy Jackson. PA 215-667 (1984)

006 In the way / By Steve Porcaro, Jeff Porcaro & David Paich. PAu 301-719 (1981)

007 It's a feeling / By Steve Porcaro. PA 134-921 (1982)

008 Love is on the line / By Steve Porcaro & Gary Wright. PAu 838-954 (1986)

009 Out of nowhere / By Steve Porcaro & John Bettis.

010 A Secret love / By Steve Porcaro, David Paich & Bobby Kimball. PA 61-050 (1979)

011 She / By Steve Porcaro & David Paich. PAu 616-021 (1984)

012 Takin' it back / By Steve Porcaro. PA 14-563 (1978)

013 Lea / By Steve Porcaro. PA 303-275 (1986) & PA 324-696 (1987)

014 In a word / By Steve Porcaro, Steve Lukather, Mike Porcaro & Jeff Porcaro. PA 308-989 (1986)

015 Walk of life / By Steve Porcaro. PAu 828-148 (1986)

016 Chicago 1945 / By Steve Porcaro & Michael Jackson.

I think so. I gotta check my Toto collection today and I'll get back to you

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Michael-Jackson-RARE-TEST-PRESS-ACETATE-no-promo-1987-/250752296775?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3a62006747#ht_1775wt_1141

I know that it isnt Michael on the Cascio tracks, but if you think that Jason is actaully confessing then your not thinking. Why admit on facebook? He has a family and he would be opening himself up to be sued by everybody. Also he states that he sang on Breaking News, Keep Your Head Up, Monster, and Stay, if this was true he state that he sang on the cascio tracks. This is most likely some crazy fan hacking his account (Like he says now). No one would be retarded enough to confess on facebook.

Among the things that were said in the interviews was that Mike was shy, humble, had no special demands except for a private phone line. He loved the view from the window the most and immediately wanted to know what is what building and he also wanted to read a history book on Prague etc. He brought in his own chef but also have tried some local food. He ordered chicken with cream sauce and vegetables and some chicken soup. He liked it very much cause the next day he ordered the same thing.

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Question, is "Body" and everything else Marlon did better than anything from his album "Baby Tonight"?

I really liked the stuff he did with Janet and Betty Wright and Barry White. It's like something happened after 1985, his stuff just sounded stronger in the early 80s. Burning Desire is jammin' I think Rio is the best thing he may have did.

vs. his Baby Tonight material

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If you ask me, it is VERY unlikely that Jason's page was hacked.

He cracked from the pressure, and is now backtracking to save his ass from potential lawsuits.

The original message was there for 9 hours. That's MORE than enough time for a hacked account to be recovered and control regained.

There's other red flags, too.

It is him on the songs... this video alone makes that more than clear.