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Reply #90 posted 01/15/11 1:31pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

lol Long as it's just hot wings. foodnow

[Edited 1/15/11 13:14pm]

Hot Wing's, Marvin Gaye & Radiohead records, Cuddling by the fire. but nothing beyond that i am a gentleman sperm

I guess we can throw in rope burn and pleasure principle to

lol

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Reply #91 posted 01/15/11 1:42pm

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sosgemini said:

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On the other hand, I think "Damita Jo" is her best album of the 00's and has never gotten it's due. I love that album.

Damita Jo>>>>>>>>>All

I honestly do think it's better than "Discipline" and "All For You". "20 Y.O." is pretty good but Damita Jo is better.

"Just A Little While", "Strawberry Bounce", "All Nite" are some of her best dance tracks of the last 10 years.

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Reply #92 posted 01/15/11 3:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Hot Wing's, Marvin Gaye & Radiohead records, Cuddling by the fire. but nothing beyond that i am a gentleman sperm

I guess we can throw in rope burn and pleasure principle to

lol

smile

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Reply #93 posted 01/15/11 4:07pm

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lol

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The Janet debate has turned to a flirting debate, but not from me of course batting eyes

So you say. wink lol

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Reply #94 posted 01/15/11 5:00pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

sosgemini said:

Damita Jo>>>>>>>>>All

I honestly do think it's better than "Discipline" and "All For You". "20 Y.O." is pretty good but Damita Jo is better.

"Just A Little While", "Strawberry Bounce", "All Nite" are some of her best dance tracks of the last 10 years.

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Yeah Damita Jo definitely slays the rest of her 2000's output, in my opinion. It just has that versatility and style that I dug.

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Reply #95 posted 01/15/11 5:09pm

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All for You > Damita Jo

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Reply #96 posted 01/15/11 5:11pm

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midiscover said:

All for You > Damita Jo

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Reply #97 posted 01/15/11 5:18pm

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musicjunky318 said:

midiscover said:

All for You > Damita Jo

Yeah I'm not convinced either.

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Reply #98 posted 01/15/11 5:23pm

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Cinnie said:

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Yeah I'm not convinced either.

The All For You singles were much stronger than Damita Jo's but when you wanna talk about an album in its entirety it's the other way around.

Damita Jo > All For You

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Reply #99 posted 01/15/11 5:39pm

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midiscover said:

All for You > Damita Jo

highfive

By far.

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Reply #100 posted 01/15/11 5:40pm

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I see it now! eek Funny how I never noticed before. hmmm

I swear that's all I can see when I see the cover!

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Reply #101 posted 01/15/11 5:55pm

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All for You > Damita Jo

Truth. clapping

Doesn't Really Matter and Someone To Call My Lover alone shit all over the Damtia Jo album. lol

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Reply #102 posted 01/15/11 5:58pm

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Reply #103 posted 01/15/11 6:11pm

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trueiopian said:

midiscover said:

All for You > Damita Jo

Truth. clapping

Doesn't Really Matter and Someone To Call My Lover alone shit all over the Damtia Jo album. lol

For me, it's "Better Days", "Feels So Right", "Trust a Try", "When We Ooo", "All for You", "Truth", etc. Any way you slice it, though, All for You strikes me as by far her best of the 2000s.

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Reply #104 posted 01/15/11 6:33pm

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Moonbeam said:

trueiopian said:

Truth. clapping

Doesn't Really Matter and Someone To Call My Lover alone shit all over the Damtia Jo album. lol

For me, it's "Better Days", "Feels So Right", "Trust a Try", "When We Ooo", "All for You", "Truth", etc. Any way you slice it, though, All for You strikes me as by far her best of the 2000s.

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Reply #105 posted 01/15/11 7:09pm

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trueiopian said:

20 Y.O. is Janet's worst album ever. Aside from Enjoy and Love 2 Love that album is just.... disbelief

Discipline isn't that bad, though. Feedback is still the shit. Can't B Good and So Much Betta are cute too. Everything else is mediocre.


EDIT - How could I forget those atrocious ballads Never Letcha Go and Greatest X ill and Discipline confused "Daddy make me cry"

But I think Can't B Good and What's Ur Name are OK. Still forgettable, though. The same can be said for the other uptempos.

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I wanna know who mixed it because it sounds too loud on some tracks

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Reply #106 posted 01/15/11 7:16pm

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Moonbeam said:

TotalAlisa said:

1. Control

2. The Velvet Rope

3. Dreamstreet

4. Rythm Nation

5. All For You

6. Damita Jo/20 Y.O

7. Janet.(i bought this album around the time MJ's Invincible album came out so maybe thats why it was a little boring to me at first)

8. Discipline (this is not her worst album, its just she didn't really give her imput so thats why its on the bottom)

9. Janet Jackson

Dream Street over Rhythm Nation 1814? Now I've seen it all! biggrin

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its more nostalgic because i actually had that album before Rhythm Nation.... and i was in highschool so i could relate more to the dreamstreet album cause of the innocence of the album... but i love rhythm nation... i just played Dream Street more.....

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Reply #107 posted 01/15/11 7:21pm

trueiopian

bboy87 said:

trueiopian said:

20 Y.O. is Janet's worst album ever. Aside from Enjoy and Love 2 Love that album is just.... disbelief

Discipline isn't that bad, though. Feedback is still the shit. Can't B Good and So Much Betta are cute too. Everything else is mediocre.


EDIT - How could I forget those atrocious ballads Never Letcha Go and Greatest X ill and Discipline confused "Daddy make me cry"

But I think Can't B Good and What's Ur Name are OK. Still forgettable, though. The same can be said for the other uptempos.

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I wanna know who mixed it because it sounds too loud on some tracks

Yea, I agree. I think it depends on the tracks. I know Rodney and JD mixed their own songs. On other songs there were other mixers who also had mixing assistants.

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Reply #108 posted 01/15/11 8:04pm

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Discipline is a billion times better than 20 Y.O., which was almost a complete train wreck. My ranking:

1. Rhythm Nation (by far)
2. Control
3. Janet.
4. The Velvet Rope
5. Janet Jackson
6. Discipline
7. Dream Street
8. All for You
9. Damita Jo
10. 20 Y.O.

I quite like Dream Street. My only major concern is "Rock N Roll" didn't make the cut when it's better than 90% of the tracks that did.
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Reply #109 posted 01/15/11 8:23pm

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All for You > Damita Jo

All For You has a lot of nostalgic value for me, i was in 5th grade when it came out and All For You, Someone To Call my Lover & Doesn't Matter where all over radio. It introduced me to Jackson and remind me of a simpler time in my life=]

So i do enjoy that one quite a bit wink

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Reply #110 posted 01/15/11 8:50pm

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TotalAlisa said:

Moonbeam said:

Dream Street over Rhythm Nation 1814? Now I've seen it all! biggrin

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its more nostalgic because i actually had that album before Rhythm Nation.... and i was in highschool so i could relate more to the dreamstreet album cause of the innocence of the album... but i love rhythm nation... i just played Dream Street more.....

No problem. I just hadn't ever heard anyone say that before. smile

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Reply #111 posted 01/15/11 9:14pm

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trueiopian said:

bboy87 said:

I wanna know who mixed it because it sounds too loud on some tracks

Yea, I agree. I think it depends on the tracks. I know Rodney and JD mixed their own songs. On other songs there were other mixers who also had mixing assistants.

With U is the biggest offender on the whole set

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Reply #112 posted 01/15/11 10:42pm

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Y'all know y'all can't have a Janet Damita Jo Jackson discussion without me lol . Ok, here goes...

Her best album of the '00s because it has the most amount of good songs on it--the title track, Feels So Right, the amazing Trust a Try, Someone to Call My Lover, You Ain't Right (another amazing track that should've been a single), Love Scene, China Love (a song just DYING for a proper video), When We Ooh, Better Days and Doesn't Really Matter. It also has that hilarious opening skit where she imitates Fran Drescher to a T, and one her most convincing faked (?) orgasms ever put on tape.

Her second best CD of the new millineum. It was CRIMINALLY overlooked because of the Super Bowl snafu, which is a shame because it not only has what is arguably her best dance track of the last decade (All Nite [Don't Stop]), but it also has the underrated gem Island Life. Throw in two songs about male and female oral sex (Warmth and Moist--of which Warmth is the better), the Motownish I Want You, the sexy one-two punch of Sexhibition and Strawberry Bounce, the smooth Babyface track Thinkin' 'Bout My Ex and the Europopness of SloLove, and you have an album that should have done WAY better than it did. Not to mention that most of the B-sides and outtakes from this era are much better than most of the stuff on 20 Y.O. Could This Be Love and Put Your Hands On could have easily replaced My Baby and Like You Don't Love Me on the final release.

It's kind of a toss up between these two, but I think I'd edge Discipline slightly over 20 Y.O. in that it has some hot jams on it. Rock With U, Feedback and Luv all should have done way better on radio than they did, and What's Your Name and So Much Betta are two more strong and underrated cuts. Can't B Good is definately the best ballad on Discipline. 20 Y.O. comes last to me because, although it has excellent tracks like Enjoy, Take Care, Get It Out Me (yeah, I said it, that song is HOT) and Do It To Me (which made excellent use of a Brenda Russell sample), something was just a little off. Maybe it was the fact that Jermaine Dupri's presence was a little too strong, or that Khia (vomit) dared to even appear on a Janet record.

*p.s.--I don't care what ya'll say, but Weekend was a jam, too (and yeah, it was a 20 Y.O. outtake...) lol

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Reply #113 posted 01/15/11 10:51pm

alphastreet

^ I would love to hear your Discipline review, I like what you said about the other albums.

My order is

All For You

Discipline

Damita Jo

20 YO

and yes I agree those 3 20 YO tracks you named are the hottest ones: Enjoy, Take Care and Get It Out Me

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Reply #114 posted 01/15/11 10:53pm

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TotalAlisa said:

Moonbeam said:

Dream Street over Rhythm Nation 1814? Now I've seen it all! biggrin

[Edited 1/15/11 2:55am]

its more nostalgic because i actually had that album before Rhythm Nation.... and i was in highschool so i could relate more to the dreamstreet album cause of the innocence of the album... but i love rhythm nation... i just played Dream Street more.....

aw cute, I feel like that too cause I found the Dream Street CD by fluke at a used store back in high school as well(early 00's), and bought Rhythm Nation in the late 90's, so it does remind me of a simpler time too. I think Rhythm Nation is a much better album from start to finish with stronger songs, but the really good songs on Dream Street are strong in their own right and have that traditional Jackson sound to them with a combination of a Prince sound.

[Edited 1/16/11 2:49am]

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Reply #115 posted 01/16/11 2:33am

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Discipline was a great pop/R&B album - compare it to the female R&B artists out there today, Rhianna, Beyonce etc, it's leagues ahead.

Feedback was a great song, I also really loved Can't B Good and that soppy ballad where she sang "I wuvved you..." lol The name escapes me now...

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Reply #116 posted 01/16/11 2:38am

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Discipline was a great pop/R&B album - compare it to the female R&B artists out there today, Rhianna, Beyonce etc, it's leagues ahead.

Feedback was a great song, I also really loved Can't B Good and that soppy ballad where she sang "I wuvved you..." lol The name escapes me now...

Greatest Ex wink

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Reply #117 posted 01/16/11 2:45am

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alphastreet said:

MattyJam said:

Discipline was a great pop/R&B album - compare it to the female R&B artists out there today, Rhianna, Beyonce etc, it's leagues ahead.

Feedback was a great song, I also really loved Can't B Good and that soppy ballad where she sang "I wuvved you..." lol The name escapes me now...

Greatest Ex wink

lol That's the one. That ones a really guilty pleasure. I wouldn't be seen dead listening to it with friends, but it has a really sweet melody.

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Reply #118 posted 01/16/11 2:48am

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I like it cause it reminds me of music from the 90's produced by R.Kelly, like for Changing Faces and Sparkle. And I love the piano hook and melody in it and love randomly singing it.

My favourite line is "how do I erase my days shaded in blue, all my love's for you"

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Reply #119 posted 01/16/11 2:53am

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alphastreet said:

f.u.c.k. friends. Now a current partner, I understand smile

I like it cause it reminds me of music from the 90's produced by R.Kelly, like for Changing Faces and Sparkle. And I love the piano hook and melody in it and love randomly singing it.

My favourite line is "how do I erase my days shaded in blue, all my love's for you"

Hell no... "I wuvved you, you wuvved me" is the best line from the whole damn album! Possibly of her entire career.

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