Paris9748430 said:

kitbradley said:

This cornelius person appears to be so upset that hardly anyone commented on the Solomon Burk thread so he/she feels the need to come here and bash Teena Marie. Sorry, but who is Solomon Burk? I grew up in the 70s and grew up on Soul music, yet, I never heard of Solomon Burk. I've even asked 3 people much older than I and they have no idea who he was either! So, cornelius, grow up and get over it. No one knew Solomon Burk. Teena Marie, however, is well known and loved all around the world. Hearing about her passing all over the internet, the news programs and hearing her music being played around the clock on the radio for the past 24 hours just drives home how influential and loved Teena is. Teena was a genius, a trailblazer. Who is Solomon Burk?

This post is just as disrespectful as Cornelius'

Solomon was a soul pioneer and early rock n roll influence.

He was definitely influential and loved.

I'm all for showing respect for Teena Marie, but there's no need to disrespect anyone else who's passed on.

How is saying I never heard of Solomon Burk being disrespectful? It's the truth! If it wasn't for seeing the post on this board, I would have never known he was dead. I hadn't heard or read about it anywhere else. He may have been influential at one time, I dont know because I've never heard any of his music or heard anyone else mention him until a few days ago. I'm not disrespecting anyone. I just brought it up because this cornelus person seemed so annoyed that so many of us were giving love to Teena but didn't extend the same kind of sympathy/memories towards Solomon Burk. And, again, probably because many people on this board have no idea who he is.

Cornelius1973 said:

I don't get why people keep defending Rick James in here.

He started out as a mediocre funk artist, getting even more mediocre by releasing shallow disco-funk.

And that Teena Marie girl presented by him was just as mediocre.

Oh, and don't forget Rick James did get put in jail because he and his wife abducted another women, tied her up inside their house, and sexually abused her.

No strong music, no strong character.

Teena Marie was just delivering slick discofunk...nothing really soullfull, sincere.

Ban this fool on principle alone.

NewPowerSista said:

kit bradley, Solomon Burke is a soul pioneer. I don't know how old you are and why you are not aware of him, but he, too is someone you should check out. I'm not sure what Cornelius 1973's original post was about him, but Burke was an important figure in early soul music.

I'm 40 years old and grew up on mostly soul music. I asked my mother and my aunt, who are both in their 60s, who Solomon Burke is? My mother had no idea who he was. My aunt says she seems to remember her mother (my grandmother) playing Solomon burk but she couldn't name any of his songs.

Intentions aside, two wrongs don't make a right. It was a douchey way to try and make a point.

@ Kitbradley: Does "Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" ring a bell?

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Paris9748430 said:

kitbradley said:

This cornelius person appears to be so upset that hardly anyone commented on the Solomon Burk thread so he/she feels the need to come here and bash Teena Marie. Sorry, but who is Solomon Burk? I grew up in the 70s and grew up on Soul music, yet, I never heard of Solomon Burk. I've even asked 3 people much older than I and they have no idea who he was either! So, cornelius, grow up and get over it. No one knew Solomon Burk. Teena Marie, however, is well known and loved all around the world. Hearing about her passing all over the internet, the news programs and hearing her music being played around the clock on the radio for the past 24 hours just drives home how influential and loved Teena is. Teena was a genius, a trailblazer. Who is Solomon Burk?

This post is just as disrespectful as Cornelius'

Solomon was a soul pioneer and early rock n roll influence.

He was definitely influential and loved.

I'm all for showing respect for Teena Marie, but there's no need to disrespect anyone else who's passed on.

I disagree largely and fundamentally with what you are saying. The context that has been created by this phenominally self-hating and power less person, intruding on a moment in time where untold numbers of people are spiritually devistated by the death of Teena Marie, is without defense. What people are really and clearly saying has nothing to with Mr. Solomon Burke, but rather that Cornelius needs to step off of Lady T's neck. She died less than 24 hours before that bullshit was repeatedly posted in a hateful fashion. As far as the statement about the hype for Prince on a Prince website I think there is a strong possiblity that woogie's word choices were made hastily, and were not fully formed to match their intent - for this there is indeed a great measure of defense.

But I betcha my bottom dollar that Teena loved and respected Solomon Burke up a storm. Further I bethca my last breath that Solomon Burke would be mortified that his name has been brought up in this manner - respect? Maybe they are crooing a tune together just now.

allsmutaside said:

Paris9748430 said:

This post is just as disrespectful as Cornelius'

Solomon was a soul pioneer and early rock n roll influence.

He was definitely influential and loved.

I'm all for showing respect for Teena Marie, but there's no need to disrespect anyone else who's passed on.

I disagree largely and fundamentally with what you are saying. The context that has been created by this phenominally self-hating and power less person, intruding on a moment in time where untold numbers of people are spiritually devistated by the death of Teena Marie, is without defense. What people are really and clearly saying has nothing to with Mr. Solomon Burke, but rather that Cornelius needs to step off of Lady T's neck. She died less than 24 hours before that bullshit was repeatedly posted in a hateful fashion. As far as the statement about the hype for Prince on a Prince website I think there is a strong possiblity that woogie's word choices were made hastily, and were not fully formed to match their intent - for this there is indeed a great measure of defense.

But I betcha my bottom dollar that Teena loved and respected Solomon Burke up a storm. Further I bethca my last breath that Solomon Burke would be mortified that his name has been brought up in this manner - respect? Maybe they are crooing a tune together just now.

Is that why this thread was made? Someone is mad that their thread/musician got no post respect?

Now folx are treading on the dead for points?

smh

Cornelius1973 said:

I don't get why people keep defending Rick James in here.

He started out as a mediocre funk artist, getting even more mediocre by releasing shallow disco-funk.

And that Teena Marie girl presented by him was just as mediocre.

Oh, and don't forget Rick James did get put in jail because he and his wife abducted another women, tied her up inside their house, and sexually abused her.

No strong music, no strong character.

Teena Marie was just delivering slick discofunk...nothing really soullfull, sincere.

Oh another day on Prince.org were disrespect for RnB artist continues !!!! Some crazy thanks Rick James and Teena Marie are overhyped because they never heard of their music meanwhile loads of other music lovers have.

I hope you come back and complain when the media hypes of some talentless group like "Monkees " a post a complaint.

kitbradley said:

NewPowerSista said:

kit bradley, Solomon Burke is a soul pioneer. I don't know how old you are and why you are not aware of him, but he, too is someone you should check out. I'm not sure what Cornelius 1973's original post was about him, but Burke was an important figure in early soul music.

I'm 40 years old and grew up on mostly soul music. I asked my mother and my aunt, who are both in their 60s, who Solomon Burke is? My mother had no idea who he was. My aunt says she seems to remember her mother (my grandmother) playing Solomon burk but she couldn't name any of his songs.

Kit, this foolishness has a plan and a map, and is fully formed by the incindiary poster; this is not his/her first time to the "I'ma fuck with you because I have no real power or fullfilling love in this world rodeo." The poster is sitting back joyfully watching the org go after each other. Hold on to your composure, let this bullshit go and stop splitting hairs with people about Solomon Burke - I feel this is actually disrespectful to Teena. From my 31 years of loving her music I frankly doubt that she would want this crap going on in her name. Consider getting a Solomon Burke record for your mother and Aunt, I think they might love them.

xlr8r said:

allsmutaside said:

I disagree largely and fundamentally with what you are saying. The context that has been created by this phenominally self-hating and power less person, intruding on a moment in time where untold numbers of people are spiritually devistated by the death of Teena Marie, is without defense. What people are really and clearly saying has nothing to with Mr. Solomon Burke, but rather that Cornelius needs to step off of Lady T's neck. She died less than 24 hours before that bullshit was repeatedly posted in a hateful fashion. As far as the statement about the hype for Prince on a Prince website I think there is a strong possiblity that woogie's word choices were made hastily, and were not fully formed to match their intent - for this there is indeed a great measure of defense.

But I betcha my bottom dollar that Teena loved and respected Solomon Burke up a storm. Further I bethca my last breath that Solomon Burke would be mortified that his name has been brought up in this manner - respect? Maybe they are crooing a tune together just now.

Is that why this thread was made? Someone is mad that their thread/musician got no post respect?

Now folx are treading on the dead for points?

smh

the funny thing is Corny dude didnt even post on or created the Solomon Burke thread in question... matter of fact this person wasnt even a member when Solomon passed back in Oct.. maybe its a org member we all know and this account was created to say the things they dont want associated with their Real account...

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Everyone isnt going to hear of everyone, regardless of the age of the person, popularity etc.....I mean the other day a girl i was talking to had never heard of the Bee Gees or seen Saturday Night Fever? so after i woke up from passing out, i explained it to her, and told her, forget going to see movies of today, SNF was a cult classic and had to be seen, especially for someone that wants to be in the film world. So alot of people have not heard of Solomon to be honest, alot know the name but wont know a song till you sing it to them, so its far from disrespect to not hear of someone, now if you havent heard of someone or own their work and pass comments on them then thats another story

Cinnie said:

Your trolling is "ridicolous". LOL! Kill yourself.

This!

The idiot that posted this thread may have done this before under

a different name. I remember reading a similar post before on Rick

being overrated and Teena as such. Just an attention whore who is

looking to start shit.

shorttrini said:

Cornelius1973 said:

I don't get why people keep defending Rick James in here.

He started out as a mediocre funk artist, getting even more mediocre by releasing shallow disco-funk.

And that Teena Marie girl presented by him was just as mediocre.

Oh, and don't forget Rick James did get put in jail because he and his wife abducted another women, tied her up inside their house, and sexually abused her.

No strong music, no strong character.

Teena Marie was just delivering slick discofunk...nothing really soullfull, sincere.

I will just comment on one part of your post...

Rick, did not "start out", as a funk artist. He in fact, started out years before in a group called the "Myna Byrds". Ths group also featured a cat named, Neal Young. Also Rick, is the only artist that I can think of, who created his OWN genre of music....That be it, Punk Funk. Before Rick, this music was unheard of and this is still the case, years after his death. As for Teena, she had a style all her own, a great talent and will be greatly missed.

Wasn't Prince influence by rick James? Infact the first time I heard and saw Prince, the first person I thought about was Rick James.

laurarichardson said:.

I hope you come back and complain when the media hypes of some talentless group like "Monkees " a post a complaint.

Er, this comment wasn't necessary. Negativity is negativity. It's no different than the 1st post.

whatsgoingon said:

shorttrini said:

I will just comment on one part of your post...

Rick, did not "start out", as a funk artist. He in fact, started out years before in a group called the "Myna Byrds". Ths group also featured a cat named, Neal Young. Also Rick, is the only artist that I can think of, who created his OWN genre of music....That be it, Punk Funk. Before Rick, this music was unheard of and this is still the case, years after his death. As for Teena, she had a style all her own, a great talent and will be greatly missed.

Wasn't Prince influence by rick James? Infact the first time I heard and saw Prince, the first person I thought about was Rick James.

Prince was influenced by allot of people, not just Rick.

Lord have mercy, the motherfucker done started a thread about it!

phunkdaddy said:

The idiot that posted this thread may have done this before under

a different name. I remember reading a similar post before on Rick

being overrated and Teena as such. Just an attention whore who is

looking to start shit.

It sounds like riverpoet to me. I could be wrong but it sounds just like him. I've gotten into it with him several times before. He knows I love Rick James and he also knows I love disco which are two things he hates. If it is riverpoet, that is why he continuously calls Rick James disco and with Teena Marie being a former member of the Rick James camp, that's why he's placing the disco label on her also (as if that's a bad thing, hell that's a fucking compliment as far as I'm concerned). What really makes me think it is him, is he made a comment in the other thread about Cameo being disco also. Riverpoet did that once before when we got into it.

I think it may be him though. Apparently he just loves to stir up shit. He did the same exact thing when Michael Jackson died also. Watch out though, when he gets his back up against the wall in a corner, he'll come out spurting racial shit.

woogiebear said:

banks said:

xlr8r said:

Is that why this thread was made? Someone is mad that their thread/musician got no post respect?

Now folx are treading on the dead for points?

smh

the funny thing is Corny dude didnt even post on or created the Solomon Burke thread in question... matter of fact this person wasnt even a member when Solomon passed back in Oct.. maybe its a org member we all know and this account was created to say the things they dont want associated with their Real account...

[Edited 12/27/10 18:19pm]

That's because that's not his real reason for bashing. He's just using that as an excuse to try to justify his bashing during a time like this.

AlexdeParis said:

I can't believe there are this many comments.
Seriously, people, don't feed the trolls.

vainandy said:

Cinnie said:

vainandy said:

It sounds like riverpoet to me. I could be wrong but it sounds just like him. I've gotten into it with him several times before. He knows I love Rick James and he also knows I love disco which are two things he hates. If it is riverpoet, that is why he continuously calls Rick James disco and with Teena Marie being a former member of the Rick James camp, that's why he's placing the disco label on her also (as if that's a bad thing, hell that's a fucking compliment as far as I'm concerned). What really makes me think it is him, is he made a comment in the other thread about Cameo being disco also. Riverpoet did that once before when we got into it.

I think it may be him though. Apparently he just loves to stir up shit. He did the same exact thing when Michael Jackson died also. Watch out though, when he gets his back up against the wall in a corner, he'll come out spurting racial shit.

I think you're right about who it is. As for the disco comments, a real soul fan would know that disco was a part of the style in a certain era. A Prince fan should certainly know this after hearing "Just As Long As We're Together" or for the uninitiated mainstream listener "I Wanna Be Your Lover". To label them as disco then dis it as soulless just made the original poster sound ignorant.

Exactly.

AlexdeParis said:

I can't believe there are this many comments. Seriously, people, don't feed the trolls.

vainandy said:

phunkdaddy said:

The idiot that posted this thread may have done this before under

a different name. I remember reading a similar post before on Rick

being overrated and Teena as such. Just an attention whore who is

looking to start shit.

It sounds like riverpoet to me. I could be wrong but it sounds just like him. I've gotten into it with him several times before. He knows I love Rick James and he also knows I love disco which are two things he hates. If it is riverpoet, that is why he continuously calls Rick James disco and with Teena Marie being a former member of the Rick James camp, that's why he's placing the disco label on her also (as if that's a bad thing, hell that's a fucking compliment as far as I'm concerned). What really makes me think it is him, is he made a comment in the other thread about Cameo being disco also. Riverpoet did that once before when we got into it.

I think it may be him though. Apparently he just loves to stir up shit. He did the same exact thing when Michael Jackson died also. Watch out though, when he gets his back up against the wall in a corner, he'll come out spurting racial shit.

You're exactly right Vain. In fact i remember the ass clown got pissed because there was

a discussion among some orgers about race and he made some stupid ass comment about

being tired of black people complaining and he either haul assed because he knew what

was coming or got banned. Of course it must be him because he likes to make stupid

ass comments and then go tuck his tail and hide rather than stay and fight.

Paris9748430 said:

woogiebear said:

:

In closing...........I don't understand the ridiculous Prince hype in here EITHER, but I love HIS music, Rick's music AND Teena's music!!!!!!!!!!!

Gee, you don't understand why people on a site called PRINCE.ORG hype him up so much???

I know where I AM.........but the truth is the truth!!!!!

"Just As Long As We're Together" Haven't heard that one in 20 years or more.

Ass clown - i like that. Intuitively I completely get it, but I find myself curious about the root of the phrase. Can you offer something about the origins?