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Reply #570 posted 11/07/10 11:00pm

Superstition

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Swa said:

Superstition said:

I disagree. That was my point, that songs recorded 30 years ago or 20 years ago or 10 years ago sound like Mike. Hold My Hand sounds like Mike. This Is It sounds like Mike. This does NOT.

2000 Watts is the only exception, but Mike's trademarks are clearly there, his way of pronouncing words and such. That's all absent from this track.

You also have to take into account his performance on the remake of Wanna Be Startin Somethin' remix with AKON. There are parts of that that made me think Michael was having difficulty singing and was mumbling and stumbling on words.

The truth will come out eventually. I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt til then.

Fair enough, nothing wrong with waiting. I'd love to be proven wrong and for this to actually be MJ vocals.

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Reply #571 posted 11/07/10 11:01pm

Timmy84	Cinnamon234 said: Timmy84 said: [img:$uid]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbjzv8yEoc1qc9xum.png[/img:$uid] Please, I bet most of those mofo's posting at TMZ haven't listened to MJ in ages lol. I don't care what they think. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference either way. Yeah they wouldn't know. Most of them who had stopped listening to MJ are more like "this is hot".
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Reply #572 posted 11/07/10 11:02pm

trueiopian	Timmy84 said: Superstition said: If you have to debate whether a song is Mike or not, then its not him. Period. [img:$uid]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbjzv8yEoc1qc9xum.png[/img:$uid] TMZ? [img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/2uxs4.jpg[/img:$uid]
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Reply #573 posted 11/07/10 11:04pm

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Swa said:

Superstition said:

I disagree. That was my point, that songs recorded 30 years ago or 20 years ago or 10 years ago sound like Mike. Hold My Hand sounds like Mike. This Is It sounds like Mike. This does NOT.

2000 Watts is the only exception, but Mike's trademarks are clearly there, his way of pronouncing words and such. That's all absent from this track.

You also have to take into account his performance on the remake of Wanna Be Startin Somethin' remix with AKON. There are parts of that that made me think Michael was having difficulty singing and was mumbling and stumbling on words.

The truth will come out eventually. I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt til then.

Exactly! Many fans questioned whether that was him too.

It's not as if MJ's vocals ALWAYS sound polished.

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Reply #574 posted 11/07/10 11:04pm

Swa

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All right all - i'm out. Heading home.

Thanks for a lively debate.

It's great to have differing points of view given without name calling or resorting to trying to one up each other - You ain't a fan, you ain't nothin'. You AIN'T Nothin'!!!

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Reply #575 posted 11/07/10 11:05pm

Timmy84

I was just posting that from somewhere else. evillol Yeah it came from there but someone copy and pasted it lol

Just posting the irony of all of this.

And in the meantime, I'm gonna be like this waiting on the full outcome:

[img:$uid]http://www.gifsoup.com/view/396726/michael-jackson-eats-popcorn-o.gif[/img:$uid]

Oh yeah Harvey was going on saying it's him. lol

But you know if it is him, I'm not gonna be upset or anything. Time will tell. confused Anyway, y'all keep debating, I'm going elsewhere. This is giving me a headache. lol

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Reply #576 posted 11/07/10 11:06pm

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trueiopian said:

The thing is you actually believe them? Who aside from Katherine (basically Joe's echo), his kids (listens to whatever Katherine or Joe say) and Latoya (Don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth) are saying this isn't him?

Or maybe, it's the fact that MJ's vocals aren't up to par to his Pre-00's years?

I hope you understand this song is a demo. It's NOT the master cut. Hence why his voice sounds a bit sketchy and different at parts.

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As I said, listen to his other demo's They sound nothing like this. You can still tell it was MJ. "In The Back" is a lot less polished than "Breaking News" yet I knew right away it was MJ when I listened to the song.

The thing is that I'm not referring to the quality of the song or the vocals.

MJ's vocals were great on "Invincible" in 2001 so I don't know what you're talking about. They were great on "Hold My Hand" and a few remixes he did for "Thriller 25" in 2007. His voice was great when he sang in "This Is It" and that was in 2009, so i'm not buying that. His voice was as good as ever up until the day he died. Deeper, but just as great.

But it's not the quality of the vocals i'm bothered by, it's the fact that it JUST DOES NOT sound like Michael Jackson. Period.

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Question? Do you have any recent tracks of MJ over the last 10 years where he has to sing fast. Slow songs dont count.

MJ at 50 cant sing Blame it on the Boogie like he did before....FACE THE FACTS

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Reply #577 posted 11/07/10 11:08pm

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Superstition said:

YES! This is what I wanting to hear tonight. WHERE IS THIS FROM!!!! THIS SOUNDS

SO GOOD! THIS IS THE REAL NEW STUFF! TRUE MJ FANS CLICK THIS NOW!!! THIS ISN'T
"BREAKING NEWS" BUT REALLY..MJ!!!!

Do you know where your children are

another day - remastered cleaned up by lenny

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Reply #578 posted 11/07/10 11:10pm

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I listened to it again....

I hear Mike in some background vocals and at the very end for some reason...

Maybe because this song is missing some of Michael's layered polished vocals...? That use to take him ages to do. He's singing but it's like someone else is singing with him.

I'm just trying to make sense in all of this.

Good night. I'm going to sleep.

All this worrying is bad for my health. LOLS!

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Reply #579 posted 11/07/10 11:11pm

BabyBeMine	MJ's wanna be starting something with Akon is a perfect example. Mike was very confident on slower to mid temo tracks but when he had to speed his voice up, he knew it wasnt his 1980 Triumph voice anymore. Nothing wrong with that cause we all age. MJ was more suited for Butterflies style songs which his voice can slow down which he was at his best when he was older.
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Reply #580 posted 11/07/10 11:12pm

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Vanilli said:

Superstition said:

YES! This is what I wanting to hear tonight. WHERE IS THIS FROM!!!! THIS SOUNDS

SO GOOD! THIS IS THE REAL NEW STUFF! TRUE MJ FANS CLICK THIS NOW!!! THIS ISN'T
"BREAKING NEWS" BUT REALLY..MJ!!!!

Do you know where your children are

another day - remastered cleaned up by lenny

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No doubt that's MJ!

SEE, I'm telling you.... Mike's voice is distinct... Even at 40, 50 or whatever...

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Reply #581 posted 11/07/10 11:13pm

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Vanilli said:

Superstition said:

YES! This is what I wanting to hear tonight. WHERE IS THIS FROM!!!! THIS SOUNDS

SO GOOD! THIS IS THE REAL NEW STUFF! TRUE MJ FANS CLICK THIS NOW!!! THIS ISN'T
"BREAKING NEWS" BUT REALLY..MJ!!!!

Do you know where your children are

another day - remastered cleaned up by lenny

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Now THAT is the stuff they should have been letting us here! nod

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Reply #582 posted 11/07/10 11:15pm

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Asymphony5 said:

Vanilli said:

YES! This is what I wanting to hear tonight. WHERE IS THIS FROM!!!! THIS SOUNDS

SO GOOD! THIS IS THE REAL NEW STUFF! TRUE MJ FANS CLICK THIS NOW!!! THIS ISN'T
"BREAKING NEWS" BUT REALLY..MJ!!!!

Do you know where your children are

another day - remastered cleaned up by lenny

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No doubt that's MJ!

SEE, I'm telling you.... Mike's voice is distinct... Even at 40, 50 or whatever...

well hot damn! punch me in the face and call me Lionel Richie!

THAT sounds more like Michael

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Reply #583 posted 11/07/10 11:17pm

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trueiopian said:

Swa said:

You also have to take into account his performance on the remake of Wanna Be Startin Somethin' remix with AKON. There are parts of that that made me think Michael was having difficulty singing and was mumbling and stumbling on words.

The truth will come out eventually. I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt til then.

Exactly! Many fans questioned whether that was him too.

It's not as if MJ's vocals ALWAYS sound polished.

I knew it was him

This just ain't

AIN'T

lol

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Reply #584 posted 11/07/10 11:18pm

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Superstition said:

That's Michael....Oh my gosh.... touched

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Reply #585 posted 11/07/10 11:22pm

Vanilli

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WaterInYourBath said:

Superstition said:

That's Michael....Oh my gosh....

SOOO GOOD! I'm so glad to have him back. This phony "breaking news"

imposter couldn't touch the real deal. Michael made me smile..once again.

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Reply #586 posted 11/07/10 11:26pm

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What is that video about Superstition? I don't get?

At least it sounds like MJ though!

"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart

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Reply #587 posted 11/07/10 11:26pm

Timmy84	Oh yeah those snippets are WITHOUT question from Michael!
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Reply #588 posted 11/07/10 11:28pm

Superstition

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Cinnamon234 said:

What is that video about Superstition? I don't get?

At least it sounds like MJ though!

A guy on Maxjax posted the snippet to Youtube since everyone was bummed about this Breaking News clip. It sounds like an unreleased song called "Do You Know" and demo vocals of "Another Day".

We owe him, that first song sounds fire!

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Reply #589 posted 11/07/10 11:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

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the song is so fucking stupid too, it's like an imitation new jack swing/bobby brown/justin timberlake song with the man's name being repeated in an inescable way undoubtedly to draw maximum attention, the whole goddamn thing is a mess, they should be skewered by the record buying public and fans for even trying to do some shit like this.

It's poorly produced too to me. I think why I'm doubting it to be him besides from the voice not being recognizable (those who heard him sing on "This Is It" compare it to this, it sounds like two different folks to me ) is never in his history has he ever have to address himself in a song. I guess that's why some of us are kinda like "huh?" It sounds out of character for him to do. I just read some of the news, apparently there's a battle over this song either being his or not. I'm going to go on Teddy's Twitter to see if he's saying anything new.

Yeah, mike has never bragged like that, never, just wasn't his style to do something so over the top. Did he have ego? Of course but he would just never do something so classless, the lyrics are stupid too, Mike, whatever you think of his lyrics, put great thought into them. The singer on this shit seems to try to half whisper too, as if they are self-conscious about being found out. THis is, well, like I said, fucking funny.

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Reply #590 posted 11/07/10 11:33pm

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Vanilli said:

WaterInYourBath said:

That's Michael....Oh my gosh....

SOOO GOOD! I'm so glad to have him back. This phony "breaking news"

imposter couldn't touch the real deal. Michael made me smile..once again.

Yes! The difference is astounding isn't it? I'm guessing that little snippet was a recent demo MJ was working on and you can tell the difference between that and "Breaking News" right away. That's the MJ I know and I love. Love that voice. I knew that other "thing" was a big fake.

"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart

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Reply #591 posted 11/07/10 11:36pm

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Reply #592 posted 11/07/10 11:42pm

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Vanilli said:

WaterInYourBath said:

That's Michael....Oh my gosh....

SOOO GOOD! I'm so glad to have him back. This phony "breaking news"

imposter couldn't touch the real deal. Michael made me smile..once again.

That first part is from a demo called "Do You Know Where Your Children Are." I'd love to know the exact year that clip was recorded. And it sounds like he sampled the drum beat from a song that had sampled the J5: "OPP" by Naughty By Nature. That's kinda funny. lol

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Reply #593 posted 11/07/10 11:46pm

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Astounding is right Cinnamon! biggrin

As for "Breaking News" - well we can officially label it a dud.

How do I know? Because Roger Friedman LOVES IT. Check out his

lame-o review:

Here’s the new Michael Jackson single, “Breaking News,” written by Michael Jackson (lyrics only), Eddie Cascio andJames Porte (aka Bobby Ewing). Yes, it’s Michael singing about himself. It’s a song they wrote in the Cascio home studio together in August 2007. Eddie’s brother, Frank, was Michael’s long time friend, confidante, and protege. It was his work with Bobby Ewing that brought Michael into the studio.

“Who is that boogeyman you’re thinking of?”– the song is tailored for Michael, and addresses all the gossip that was leveled at him, the accusations, etc.

“Why is it strange that I would fall in love?” Michael sings. Is he referring to Lisa Marie Presley, Debbie Rowe, or someone else? Anyway, the production by Teddy Riley, is terrific, giving Michael a modern sound and horns. And, yes, that’s him singing. There is only one Michael Jackson.

Anyway moving on....

Thanks to whoever leaked "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" and

"Another Day" (Remastered with Lenny's guitar changes to it.)

THIS made my night and I know..I am not alone with that thought.

This one goes out to you bboy....m&m's really are good!

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Reply #594 posted 11/07/10 11:49pm

Vanilli

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WaterInYourBath said:

Vanilli said:

SOOO GOOD! I'm so glad to have him back. This phony "breaking news"

imposter couldn't touch the real deal. Michael made me smile..once again.

That first part is from a demo called "Do You Know Where Your Children Are." I'd love to know the exact year that clip was recorded. And it sounds like he sampled the drum beat from a song that had sampled the J5: "OPP" by Naughty By Nature. That's kinda funny.

I think Randy (if memory serves me correctly) was ad-libbing parts of that song during

Michael's 2001 MSG gigs. How ironic if this is the drum loop from that same song. biggrin

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Reply #595 posted 11/07/10 11:52pm

Timmy84	@Vanilli, yeah I saw that. Roger Fried Chicken is a mess.
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Reply #596 posted 11/07/10 11:52pm

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The plot about "Breaking News" thickens....read some of Teddy's recent tweets.

Hmmm. I'll take Teddy's word on this for now. Let's wait and see. But his active

tweets sure are interesting. I think he knows something we don't (but it sounds like

we will know it soon enough.)

@whaoo Yes that was in Virginia beach. Michael stayed at one of my places.half a minute ago via Twitter for Android in reply to whaoo
@AngelaDF Pls wait for the truth...this is what Michael would encourage us all to do. It's beyond us all. Pls wait...no more comments 4 now.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to AngelaDF
@AngelaDF Yes which is why its not in court, cause so much of the truth will come out. Too many pros were on this. Cont.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to AngelaDF
@iLOVEJERMAlNEJ No comment...if I don't have anything good to say fighting for MJ legacy...I don't say it at all.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to iLOVEJERMAlNEJ
@4THELEGACY It's not Sony he didn't want to work with. Pls read my Sony answer quote.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to 4THELEGACY
@sweetXoXheart All of our hearts are ma. That's why we need to let go and let god. You will know the truth soon.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to sweetXoXheart
@AngelaDF Ma, he didn't have a problem with Sony...His problem was with Tommy Mattola. The truth will come soon dear.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to AngelaDF
@joevogel_ Wow!!! That's so cool. I like being talked about. Thank you so much.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to joevogel_
@Bluebird6943 Pls wait a few days and you will have the truth.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Bluebird6943
@entoffler Yesir!!!about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to entoffler
@Big_3_LBJ Yep Yep!!about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Big_3_LBJ
@venussunshine meaning??about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to venussunshine
@mjjrules I'm not the one that's being accused dear...The Cascios are being accuse. I did what I would with MJ if he were here. Cont.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to mjjrules
@moonwalkbhoy Still sad he's not here to defend himself, happy you all get to hear it, in hope that everyone love it. God is good!!!about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to moonwalkbhoy
@KingOfPop2012 outtakes? Meaning?about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to KingOfPop2012
@randomtweetgirl You will enjoy it.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to randomtweetgirl
@sweetXoXheart Let the truth prevail and not judge. You will see if it gets too far.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to sweetXoXheart
@sweetXoXheart That it...He's the only judge.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to sweetXoXheart
@sweetXoXheart I'm sorry I meant not let his legacy die...the record company could have done that. He's the greatest that ever did it.about 1 hour ago via Twitter for Android in reply to sweetXoXheart
@KingOfPop2012 pls read what I said about being your own worst enemy.about 2 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to KingOfPop2012

@mmmlollipops So, its not about money to them its about what is truth.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to mmmlollipops
@mmmlollipops And you will see who really knows MJ the artist. His professors, friend who didn't work on this lp...Cont.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to mmmlollipops
@mmmlollipops Yes they are. The truth will prevail.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to mmmlollipops
@skye_moon and I know his voice more than the people who's saying its not real.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to skye_moon
@Helmis123 It's some bullshit that was put together. That's all I have to say. No disrespect but not even MJ would release that crap.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Helmis123
@Helmis123 Pls don't let this inside friction detour u from your love of MJ. This music is a master piece. That crap that's on TMZ...Cont.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Helmis123
@Helmis123 MJ is bigger than that and life itself. Yes I would buy the record.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Helmis123
@Helmis123 Sony is the record company that put a lot into MJ, they could've been like other rec comp and just let the legacy die. Cont.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Helmis123
@Helmis123 I can't speak direct you read between the lines...people are their own worst enemies.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Helmis123
@Helmis123 Listen carefully...Michael live for controversy. Sony, and the family will work out there differences. Cont.about 4 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to Helmis123
@marcoballetta Yes I have.about 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to marcoballetta
@marcoballetta yes of course.about 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to marcoballetta
@whaoo all of my songs...in my studio.about 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to whaoo
@damienshields Conspiracy!!!about 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to damienshields
@missKoito Thank you fam. That's all I'm doing it for is his legacy. You will hear more of the truth about how I came onto the project.about 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to missKoito
@missKoito I personally know it is real but you can't blood.about 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to missKoito
@joevogel_ Monsterabout 5 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to joevogel_
@damienshields I can't wait to here everyone's response. I hope yall enjoy it.about 6 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to damienshields
@munchkette1 No I didn't.about 6 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to munchkette1
@munchkette1 Electronics, everything that makes music powerful.about 18 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to munchkette1

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Reply #597 posted 11/07/10 11:58pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

Vanilli said:

SOOO GOOD! I'm so glad to have him back. This phony "breaking news"

imposter couldn't touch the real deal. Michael made me smile..once again.

Yes! The difference is astounding isn't it? I'm guessing that little snippet was a recent demo MJ was working on and you can tell the difference between that and "Breaking News" right away. That's the MJ I know and I love. Love that voice. I knew that other "thing" was a big fake.

Yeah, when it's Michael's voice, it's Michael's voice. That's just it. smile

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Reply #598 posted 11/08/10 12:02am

PYTDee	Yeah, Breaking News isn't Mike, sorry. It doesn't sound like him at all to me. Even if you use the whole "voice change as he got older" example..He still sounded like hisself here.. But those other snippets posted..is definitely Mike.
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