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Reply #570 posted 04/03/10 6:46pm

NastradumasKid

angel345 said:

NastradumasKid said:



The smartest thing ever said on this thread? biggrin

Was that a comment or a question? lol


A question. lol
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Reply #571 posted 04/03/10 6:49pm

angel345

NastradumasKid said:

angel345 said:


Was that a comment or a question? lol


A question. lol

You ain't right lol
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Reply #572 posted 04/03/10 6:50pm

NastradumasKid

angel345 said:

NastradumasKid said:



A question. lol

You ain't right lol


lol I guess not!!! I'm surprise MOL didn't come back on here to start something.
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Reply #573 posted 04/03/10 6:52pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

OK, the hell... is this 2008? I feel like I've seen these folks before. lol Deja vu perhaps?

Who you talkin bout Timmy? lurking lol


whistling lol
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Reply #574 posted 04/03/10 6:54pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:


Who you talkin bout Timmy? lurking lol


whistling lol



Timmy is here!!!!! biggrin Let the games begin!!!! cool
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Reply #575 posted 04/03/10 6:58pm

angel345

NastradumasKid said:

angel345 said:


You ain't right lol


lol I guess not!!! I'm surprise MOL didn't come back on here to start something.

I dunno shrug, but MJ remains somewhat of a mystery even in death.
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Reply #576 posted 04/03/10 6:58pm

Timmy84

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:



whistling lol



Timmy is here!!!!! biggrin Let the games begin!!!! cool


Shit I've just been lurking at this. It just feels like some comments that have been said here feels like a 2008 thread before MJ threads were made into stickies. lol

Anyway, I agree with bboy. And what?! cool lol
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Reply #577 posted 04/03/10 6:59pm

NastradumasKid

angel345 said:

NastradumasKid said:



lol I guess not!!! I'm surprise MOL didn't come back on here to start something.

I dunno shrug, but MJ remains somewhat of a mystery even in death.



Well that's true!!! nod
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Reply #578 posted 04/03/10 7:01pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:




Timmy is here!!!!! biggrin Let the games begin!!!! cool


Shit I've just been lurking at this. It just feels like some comments that have been said here feels like a 2008 thread before MJ threads were made into stickies. lol

Anyway, I agree with bboy. And what?! cool lol



lol Wow, Well some people, Not all, on here need a very good reality check because some of the stuff they were saying was trifling as hell!!!!
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Reply #579 posted 04/03/10 7:07pm

Timmy84

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:



Shit I've just been lurking at this. It just feels like some comments that have been said here feels like a 2008 thread before MJ threads were made into stickies. lol

Anyway, I agree with bboy. And what?! cool lol



lol Wow, Well some people, Not all, on here need a very good reality check because some of the stuff they were saying was trifling as hell!!!!


lol Good. lol
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Reply #580 posted 04/03/10 7:19pm

angel345

MOL said:

angel345 said:


I was agreeing with you that because of his past addiction, it could benefit Murray's case, and that's why I said man, it's tough.



Sorry for the misinterpretation!

You're completely right. smile

It's ok. I should have bold the part I was commenting on.
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Reply #581 posted 04/03/10 7:20pm

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MOL said:

sleepyq said:


Exactly. clapping

He shoulda left those damn kids alone after 1993, but nooooo... i say its his own damn fault. disbelief


Michael should have been more responsible. But, let's think positive: at least, he was judged and acquited. If he had stopped back in 93, he would have never had the opportunity of making the world hear the "not guilty" veredict.

Still, Michael was so damn stupid.


He wasn't stupid. He was naive and stubborn. But not stupid.
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Reply #582 posted 04/03/10 7:23pm

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NaughtyKitty said:



biggrin


OMG, I remember that! My cousin had one but he was scared of it. lol
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Reply #583 posted 04/03/10 7:34pm

NastradumasKid

Layzie said:

NaughtyKitty said:



biggrin


OMG, I remember that! My cousin had one but he was scared of it. lol


Me too, I have Thriller Mike but he's missing the jacket, shoes, and socks!!! lol
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Reply #584 posted 04/03/10 8:16pm

Cinnie

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Reply #585 posted 04/03/10 8:37pm

NaughtyKitty

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Reply #586 posted 04/03/10 9:02pm

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Cinnie said:



Is this some kind of new tribute or is this vintage?
Before or after "Right Here?"
MJ Fan 1992-Forever

My Org Family: Cinnie, bboy87, Cinnamon234, AnckSuNamun, lilgish, thekidsgirl, thesexofit, Universaluv, theSpark, littlemissG, ThreadCula, badujunkie, DANGEROUSx, Timmy84, MikeMatronik, DarlingDiana, dag, Nvncible1
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Reply #587 posted 04/03/10 9:30pm

Cinnie

Vanilli said:

Cinnie said:



Is this some kind of new tribute or is this vintage?
Before or after "Right Here?"


It's after "Right Here", it's from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ndtrack%29
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Reply #588 posted 04/03/10 11:06pm

Cinnie

In Under The Cherry Moon, there is a scene where Christopher Tracy (Prince) has a Miles Davis album propped up.



It contains this cover:
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Reply #589 posted 04/03/10 11:08pm

NastradumasKid

Cinnie said:

In Under The Cherry Moon, there is a scene where Christopher Tracy (Prince) has a Miles Davis album propped up.



It contains this cover:



That was sexy! cool
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Reply #590 posted 04/04/10 12:50am

dag

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bboy87 said:

I'll say this about the Oprah interview, the situation with Michael's dependencies and then I'm going back to talking about the music and the man....


I feel with everything that has been said in the past 9 months since his passing, my conclusions are that Michael Joesph Jackson, although with his flaws, was a good man. If you REALLY look into the story of his life, from the people who knew him, the good far outweighs the bad. Nothing godlike about him, but nothing evil about him either

One thing that frustates me when talking about these latest issues (whether Michael was an addict, his relationship with his family, the career decisions he made these past 15 years) is that instead of using that to try to understand him and what led up to those situations, people use that to degrade him (not saying people in this thread are doing that, well some of ya'll are lol ) and judge him, and that's not the way to go. We don't know the struggles, health issues, the pressure, and other things the man had to go through in his life

Instead of judging him, it seems to me that with everything Michael had went through, he was simply trying to LIVE and he was trying to get his life back together for himself, his children, and the people (family, friends, and even fans) who cared and loved him. He wanted to come back. He wanted to be happy, and that's we all want, right?

One thing I've learned in life and also as a fan of Michael, James Brown, and Sammy Davis Jr, is not to judge and their struggles aren't the only thing about them. I don't dwell on the tabloid crap, I don't really talk about the allegations/ trials because that's not why I respect and admire Michael. That's not why I love his work, and that's not why I cried non-stop on June 25th like I lost my best friend

but at the same time, I'm not cool with the lack of knowledge about the kind of person he was and the misrepresentations surrounding his death because people use that against those who can't defend themselves anymore


So for me, I'm gonna wait to hear the truth BUT that doesn't change how I see the man and it's not going to be his whole story

Thanks for posting this. This whole thread was turning sad
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really donĀ“t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #591 posted 04/04/10 12:52am

NastradumasKid

dag said:

bboy87 said:

I'll say this about the Oprah interview, the situation with Michael's dependencies and then I'm going back to talking about the music and the man....


I feel with everything that has been said in the past 9 months since his passing, my conclusions are that Michael Joesph Jackson, although with his flaws, was a good man. If you REALLY look into the story of his life, from the people who knew him, the good far outweighs the bad. Nothing godlike about him, but nothing evil about him either

One thing that frustates me when talking about these latest issues (whether Michael was an addict, his relationship with his family, the career decisions he made these past 15 years) is that instead of using that to try to understand him and what led up to those situations, people use that to degrade him (not saying people in this thread are doing that, well some of ya'll are lol ) and judge him, and that's not the way to go. We don't know the struggles, health issues, the pressure, and other things the man had to go through in his life

Instead of judging him, it seems to me that with everything Michael had went through, he was simply trying to LIVE and he was trying to get his life back together for himself, his children, and the people (family, friends, and even fans) who cared and loved him. He wanted to come back. He wanted to be happy, and that's we all want, right?

One thing I've learned in life and also as a fan of Michael, James Brown, and Sammy Davis Jr, is not to judge and their struggles aren't the only thing about them. I don't dwell on the tabloid crap, I don't really talk about the allegations/ trials because that's not why I respect and admire Michael. That's not why I love his work, and that's not why I cried non-stop on June 25th like I lost my best friend

but at the same time, I'm not cool with the lack of knowledge about the kind of person he was and the misrepresentations surrounding his death because people use that against those who can't defend themselves anymore


So for me, I'm gonna wait to hear the truth BUT that doesn't change how I see the man and it's not going to be his whole story

Thanks for posting this. This whole thread was turning sad



Turning me on!!!!! party
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Reply #592 posted 04/04/10 12:54am

tangerine7

wow.
kfc absolut chair
[Edited 4/4/10 0:58am]
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Reply #593 posted 04/04/10 12:55am

WaterInYourBat
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tangerine7 said:

wow.
kfc absolut chair

lol
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #594 posted 04/04/10 12:57am

NastradumasKid

WaterInYourBath said:

tangerine7 said:

wow.
kfc absolut chair

lol

PUSSY
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Reply #595 posted 04/04/10 1:01am

tangerine7

dag said:

bboy87 said:

I'll say this about the Oprah interview, the situation with Michael's dependencies and then I'm going back to talking about the music and the man....


I feel with everything that has been said in the past 9 months since his passing, my conclusions are that Michael Joesph Jackson, although with his flaws, was a good man. If you REALLY look into the story of his life, from the people who knew him, the good far outweighs the bad. Nothing godlike about him, but nothing evil about him either

One thing that frustates me when talking about these latest issues (whether Michael was an addict, his relationship with his family, the career decisions he made these past 15 years) is that instead of using that to try to understand him and what led up to those situations, people use that to degrade him (not saying people in this thread are doing that, well some of ya'll are lol ) and judge him, and that's not the way to go. We don't know the struggles, health issues, the pressure, and other things the man had to go through in his life

Instead of judging him, it seems to me that with everything Michael had went through, he was simply trying to LIVE and he was trying to get his life back together for himself, his children, and the people (family, friends, and even fans) who cared and loved him. He wanted to come back. He wanted to be happy, and that's we all want, right?

One thing I've learned in life and also as a fan of Michael, James Brown, and Sammy Davis Jr, is not to judge and their struggles aren't the only thing about them. I don't dwell on the tabloid crap, I don't really talk about the allegations/ trials because that's not why I respect and admire Michael. That's not why I love his work, and that's not why I cried non-stop on June 25th like I lost my best friend

but at the same time, I'm not cool with the lack of knowledge about the kind of person he was and the misrepresentations surrounding his death because people use that against those who can't defend themselves anymore


So for me, I'm gonna wait to hear the truth BUT that doesn't change how I see the man and it's not going to be his whole story

Thanks for posting this. This whole thread was turning sad


good insight.
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Reply #596 posted 04/04/10 1:03am

WaterInYourBat
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NastradumasKid said:

WaterInYourBath said:


lol

PUSSY

Wait, what? confuse
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #597 posted 04/04/10 1:05am

tangerine7



Thought I'd post this. I love this episode with Redd Fox. Part 2 is in related videos.
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Reply #598 posted 04/04/10 1:10am

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http://www.sligochampion....03566.html

Jackson was a 'down to earth doting father' recalls Sligo puppeteer

Wednesday July 01 2009

A Sligoman who became an unlikely friend of pop icon, Michael Jackson, has described him as a "downto-earth doting father" who had casually arrived at his Dublin home in "a banger of a car" to celebrate his 48th birthday.

Master puppeteer, Eugene Lambert, told THE SLIGO CHAMPION how his famous puppet, 'Judge' from the 'Wanderly Wagon' TV series had sung ' happy birthday' to the tragic superstar as members of the Lambert family hosted Jackson at their Monkstown, Co. Dublin home eighteen months ago.

"Michael arrived in a banger of a car, with his three children. There was no big entourage, just one security man and an au-pair. They spent over two hours with us, enjoying a show we put on for them and then sitting around having tea and scones. When we discovered it was Michael's birthday, Judge sang him the happy birthday song and Michael happily sang along. It was a great day, a lovely memory," Eugene recalled.

Another memory Eugene cherishes from that special visit is of the global pop icon gleefully filling his pockets with sweets from a small shop in the Lambert Puppet Theatre.

"We have a small sweet shop in the theatre, and as we were about to start a show for Michael and his children, one of the kids asked if they could have sweets. I told the lad to help himself, and the next thing Michael was in the shop filling his pockets. He was quite literally the child let loose in the sweet shop, and he loved it," Eugene said.

Despite the allegations which were later to emerge about the singer's peculiar relationship with young children, the Sligo born grandfather said he only saw evidence of a doting father who loved his children.

"He clearly loved his children, and they equally loved him. They had a lovely, normal relationship. He struck me as a very kind, gentle person. The children were perfectly behaved, they had impeccable manners and they wouldn't touch anything without permission.

"It was very much a normal family scene, and I really couldn't relate the person I met to the man portrayed in the media. To me, he was an ordinary, lovely man, and we got on really well together. I was quite fond of him," Eugene said.

The birthday visit was the second occasion on which Michael Jackson had called to the Lambert Theatre. The first was in 1992 when the family was given a half hour's notice of the impending arrival of one of the most famous men in the world, who duly arrived with an entourage which included two stretch limousines, a huge van and about a dozen minders.

Eugene recalls: "He had a great interest in children's theatre and had asked to visit us. It was panic stations when we were told he would be with us in about half an hour, but we got everything ready and it all worked out very well,"

Initially, Eugene recalls, Jackson struck him as a chronically shy man, but when they found common ground in their admiration for the mime artist, Marcel Marceau, the star soon relaxed.

"He was very impressed with a poster we had of Marcel Marceau, and when I showed him some etchings we had of the great man he was very excited. We chatted for about two hours. He had a great passion for children's literature and Russian folklore, and we put on a little puppet show for him which he really enjoyed. Once the ice was broken, he was extremely relaxed and said that he would love to stay longer with us," according to Eugene.

While he has a treasured autograph as a testimony of his friendship with the singer, the Sligoman unfortunately has no pictorial record of the visits.

"He was very security conscious. We were sworn to secrecy about the visits and he posed for no photographs. The security people even took the tape from the CCTV camera outside our premises as they were leaving," he explained.

- JIM GRAY
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #599 posted 04/04/10 1:40am

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Murray's defense is that Michael KILLED HIMSELF???? WHAT KINDA BS IS THIS?

http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...l-defense/

TMZ has learned Dr. Conrad Murray's legal defense is that Michael Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of Propofol.

Multiple sources familiar with the strategy tell TMZ the defense argument goes like this:

- At around 10:50 AM, Dr. Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of Propofol from a 20 ml bottle -- that's only about 1/8 of the bottle.

- The dose Dr. Murray administered would keep someone asleep for only 5 to 10 minutes, But the Propofol, along with the Ativan and Versed that was already in MJ's system, had a synergistic effect that put Jackson to sleep for a longer period of time.

- For the next hour, Dr. Murray stayed in the room and was on the phone for much of the time. Dr. Murray didn't leave the room to make the calls because MJ liked activity in the room, regularly sleeping with the lights on and cartoons blaring on the TV.

- At around noon, Dr. Murray left the room for approximately two minutes to go to the bathroom. While he was gone, the defense believes Jackson suddenly awakened and was frustrated he had spent nearly 9 hours trying in vain to sleep. The defense theory -- Jackson took the 20 ml bottle of Propofol and self-injected the remaining contents through the IV, causing a massive overdose that stopped his heart.

- Dr. Murray walked back in the room and saw Jackson with his eyes open and pupils dilated. Dr. Murray dropped the phone (he was speaking with his girlfriend) and began administering CPR.

The defense will argue Michael Jackson was a long-time Propofol addict -- something TMZ first reported shortly after the singer's death. As one source said, Jackson liked the sensation of Propofol being administered by IV, adding, "Michael liked to push it."

L.A. County Coroner's investigators took a picture in the room, showing an empty Propofol bottle on the floor, underneath the nightstand by Jackson's bed. The defense will argue Jackson grabbed the bottle from the nightstand, injected himself and then dropped the bottle.

Remember, law enforcement believes Dr. Murray hid bottles of Propofol before paramedics arrived. The defense will argue ... if Dr. Murray was really hiding Propofol, he would have removed the empty bottle under the nightstand that caused Jackson's death.

Ed Chernoff, Murray's attorney, could not be reached for comment.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...z0k7R4SlCV
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