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Reply #690 posted 04/04/10 11:29pm

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Jackson's Demanding Personality On Trial
Posted Apr 5th 2010 12:25AM by TMZ Staff

It sounds crazy, but Michael Jackson's Coca-Cola addiction may become a building block in Dr. Conrad Murray's legal strategy.

TMZ broke the story that Dr. Murray's defense will be that Michael Jackson caused his own death by pumping a lethal dose of Propofol into his own body during the time the doctor was out of the room.

Sources familiar with the defense strategy tell us one of the missions is to show that Michael Jackson was a demanding celebrity who wanted what he wanted when he wanted it, even if it posed a danger to himself.

One of the ways the defense will prove its point is with the famous soft drink. Jackson consumed massive quantities of Coca-Cola, knowing full well it was laden with caffeine and would make it next to impossible to fall asleep.

Our sources say the defense has numerous examples of situations where Jackson hyped himself up with caffeine from soda and then used drugs -- including Propofol -- as the ultimate sleeping solution.

The upshot -- Jackson was a guy who wanted instant gratification ... so the notion that he would wake up when Dr. Murray was out of the room, become frustrated and self-medicate with Propofol is consistent with his personality.




Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...z0kCiMrnsE



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Reply #691 posted 04/04/10 11:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:



That is very appropriate!!!!! biggrin Thank you.
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No prob. lol

lol
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Reply #692 posted 04/04/10 11:56pm

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Instead of talking shit, and bringing negativity into this thread, let's go back to celebrating and discussing the positive, because all this "it was his own fault" "he was this and he was that" BULLSHIT ain't all that Michael Jackson was

so if ya'll want to join me..... lol
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Reply #693 posted 04/04/10 11:57pm

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http://www.dagen.se/dagen...?id=207288


When Michael Jackson died in June last year he had for long stopped being a human being of flesh and blood in the world’s eyes. He had become a timid fantasy creature hiding at his ranch in Neverland and it was seen free to speculate about him and his life.

To meet Kiki Chambers is therefore a wakeup call. She is a woman who has washed his clothes, cleaned his house and watched him play with his children.

“I don’t want the world to remember him as a crazy person, because he wasn’t. I want him to be remembered as a human being who wanted to make the world a better place and as a father, because that’s the role I saw was most important for him,” she says.

She, who has watched a superstar from the inside, would also like to witness of how damaging fame and wealth can be.

“I’ve seen what price a person has to pay when the world worships you. We are meant to worship God, not His creations,” she says.

Kiki Chambers now lives in a small town in the west of Sweden. The contrasts are big from warm California and life at Neverland, the ranch which Michael Jackson built when trying to create a lost childhood.

She takes her laptop and shows us clips on Youtube from the inside of Michael Jackson’s home. She points at the place in the kitchen where there was always candy, the stairs where she once fell. She also points out other celebrities who she met.

”Elizabeth Taylor was always very nice when she came to visit, others were not,” she says.

Kiki Chambers worked at Neverland from 1991 to 2003. She got the job as a coincidence.

”I knew a man at a building company who worked at Neverland. I used to joke around with him, telling him that if they ever needed a maid they should call me. And they actually did.”

She was one of many maids who worked full time at the ranch. When she was hired, she was told not to look Michael Jackson in the eyes or take initiative to talk to him. Kiki Chamber’s is a very straight forward and talkative person though, so she had a hard time following the rules. She used to tell him jokes, and one time she thought that she had gone too far, but when others were fired, she was the one who always got to stay.

“One time he asked me why no one ever spoke to him. I then had to tell him that those were the rules we were given, but he didn’t understand why, he hadn’t actually made those rules,” she says.

She remembers the first years as happy and joyful. Michael Jackson used to love to play with the children who came to visit Neverland.

“He liked to laugh, he was open and happy,” she says.

But in 1993 Michael Jackson was accused of sexual molestation towards a boy named Jordan Chandler.

“After being accused, which I am sure he was not guilty of, it was like he changed. He wasn’t as happy anymore,” she says.

As time passed by, Kiki Chambers got a friendly relationship with Michael Jackson.

“He used to tell me that he could hear my laugh all the way across the house,” she says.

It sometimes happened that they, late at night, sat down in one of the rooms for longer conversations. He sometimes asked her for advice since there were so many people that wanted to be close to him and use his fame.

“He asked me if he could trust this person or this person. It was hard, it wasn’t my place to judge who he should be surrounding himself with,” she says.

It also started coming more and more doctors to visit Neverland. They gave Michael Jackson different kinds of prescripted medication. Kiki Chambers soon realized that something was very wrong. Michael Jackson could act normal one minute, just to be noticeable high on medication the next.

”It was hard. I was just a maid, but when was it my responsibility as a human being to do something? What could I do? I prayed to God: Why am I here?”

Everyone who was working close to Michael Jackson tried to keep this a secret since they knew what kind of scandal this would cause in the media. To Kiki Chambers, it was a hard thing to do.

“One night, one of my superiors told me that Michael Jackson had been given some medication. But something was very wrong, you could tell just by looking at him, and I got scared. After that, I told my superior that if this ever happens again, I will call 911, I don’t care what consequences it will give me. Because I knew that I could never live with not to have done anything if he died."

As a Christian she tried to affect Michael Jackson in a positive way. She gave him Christian books and wrote Biblical verses on the board in the kitchen, which he gave her credit for.

”I want people to know that Michael believed in God, it was no doubt about it,” she says.

One time, Michael Jackson and his crew went to do some errands down town, where Kiki Chambers’ Christian friend was working at a hotel She then asked Michael Jackson if he wanted to see him and he said yes.

”We started talking and when we were about to leave, my friend asked me if we could pray together. We all joined hands and he started to speak in tongues. In my mind I said to God: I really hope you know what you’re doing right now. When we left, a person from the crew asked about what had just happened, what language he was praying in. Michael then explained, completely natural, that my friend had been speaking in tongues, and then told them about what it means when you do that.”

When World Trade Center in New York was attacked, Michael Jackson got really shaken. He gathered all of the staff outside where they held hands.

”He asked me to pray to God. I was stunned, but he continued: Pray Kiki, do it. Inside, I prayed to God to help me and, now, I don’t even remember what I prayed.”

In the beginning of the years of 2000, Michael Jackson’s world started to fall more and more apart. Another boy, Gavin Arvizo, accused him of sexual molestation. Kiki Chambers is totally convinced that Michael Jackson is innocent to all the accusations and that the parents were after money.

”What parents leave their children for weeks and weeks at somebody else’s house? That was really irresponsible done of them. And the children got spoilt and manipulative. They asked us what it was going to be for dinner and then they demanded something else, just because. They made is work harder and harder and threatened us to get us fired if we didn’t serve them alcohol,” she say.

The following circus in the media made Michael Jackson depressed.

”He wondered why people called him Michael Jackson, that made him really upset and it was painful to him.”

Kiki Chambers describes Michael Jackson as a very complex person. She means that he was a really good business man, but on the other hand he would literally throw money at his so called friends. He was timid and shy, but could at the same time make big statues of himself.

”He wanted so badly to love and to be loved,” she says.

What she considered was most important to him, was his three children. Kiki Chambers says that he was a good father, even though he was struggling with his addiction to painkillers and medication.

“He loved his children, he sacrificed himself for them. He never had a childhood of his own, therefore it was very important to him how his children were raised. And that’s why he used to cover them up and never show their faces when they went outside.”

In 2003, Kiki Chambers left Neverland. The last time she met Michael Jackson was during the trial in 2005 where she was a witness.

”Michael wondered how it went, and I said it went good. But he then got told that it was not permitted to speak with the witnesses.”

After that she didn’t have any contact with him, even though she had friends who were still working in his staff. During that time, she prayed and hoped for him, but in June last year, the call that she feared for, suddenly came.

“It still hurts so much to talk about and I haven’t even been able to start grieving. I see his face in the newspapers and I read so many lies about him. I don’t know how to cope with all the feelings I have, but I pray to God and I know that He’s got everything in His hands now.”
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Reply #694 posted 04/04/10 11:59pm

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http://online.wsj.com/art...19209.html

Michael Jackson Auction Is Canceled
By ETHAN SMITH

A planned auction of the furnishings and personal effects from Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch was canceled Tuesday as part of a settlement in a lawsuit over the sale.

"It was a misunderstanding," Mr. Jackson's manager, Dr. Tohme Tohme said in a telephone interview. "It was his personal property. It was never supposed to be sold."

The auction was to have taken place next week, after eight days in which more than 2,000 objects from the pop singer's famous Santa Barbara County home were to be displayed to the public. Mr. Jackson's MJJ Productions filed suit last month in Los Angeles Superior Court against Julien's Auction House to block the sale. Julien's Auction House Chief Executive Darren Julien said in a telephone interview that he is "very happy with the outcome." He said that the lawsuit's settlement also included the dismissal of all claims.

Dr. Tohme said the belongings -- including several sequined gloves, paintings and other memorabilia -- would be put in storage soon. In the meantime they are to remain on display at a former Beverly Hills department store through Saturday, April 25, four days longer than originally planned.

Dr. Tohme said that Mr. Jackson hopes eventually to display the unusual belongings permanently. "One day he will have a beautiful museum, like Graceland," the manager said.

One place Mr. Jackson's effects are unlikely to end up: Neverland, in Los Olivos, Calif. The ranch was permanently tainted by allegations that Mr. Jackson had sexually molested children there. The singer was acquitted of those charges in a 2005 trial, but he has vowed never to return there, and recently avoided foreclosure proceedings on the property. "Neverland is gone," Dr. Tohme said. "Neverland is finished."

Under an agreement with investment firm Colony Capital LLC, which owns an equity stake in Neverland, the property may be redeveloped under its previous name, Sycamore Canyon Ranch.
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Reply #695 posted 04/05/10 12:05am

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NastradumasKid said:

mimi07 said:

Jackson's Demanding Personality On Trial
Posted Apr 5th 2010 12:25AM by TMZ Staff

It sounds crazy, but Michael Jackson's Coca-Cola addiction may become a building block in Dr. Conrad Murray's legal strategy.

TMZ broke the story that Dr. Murray's defense will be that Michael Jackson caused his own death by pumping a lethal dose of Propofol into his own body during the time the doctor was out of the room.

Sources familiar with the defense strategy tell us one of the missions is to show that Michael Jackson was a demanding celebrity who wanted what he wanted when he wanted it, even if it posed a danger to himself.

One of the ways the defense will prove its point is with the famous soft drink. Jackson consumed massive quantities of Coca-Cola, knowing full well it was laden with caffeine and would make it next to impossible to fall asleep.

Our sources say the defense has numerous examples of situations where Jackson hyped himself up with caffeine from soda and then used drugs -- including Propofol -- as the ultimate sleeping solution.

The upshot -- Jackson was a guy who wanted instant gratification ... so the notion that he would wake up when Dr. Murray was out of the room, become frustrated and self-medicate with Propofol is consistent with his personality.




Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...z0kCiMrnsE



Why do you keep posting this crap? neutral
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Why shouldnt it be posted? You want one sides postings that only favor MJ and put Dr Murray away for life. It should be fair outside the courtroom and inside just like MJ in his own trial.

What evidence do you have that this story is not true? Allow it to be presented and proven true or false.
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Reply #696 posted 04/05/10 12:08am

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dang photobucket! confused
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Reply #697 posted 04/05/10 12:19am

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NastradumasKid said:

mimi07 said:

Jackson's Demanding Personality On Trial
Posted Apr 5th 2010 12:25AM by TMZ Staff

It sounds crazy, but Michael Jackson's Coca-Cola addiction may become a building block in Dr. Conrad Murray's legal strategy.

TMZ broke the story that Dr. Murray's defense will be that Michael Jackson caused his own death by pumping a lethal dose of Propofol into his own body during the time the doctor was out of the room.

Sources familiar with the defense strategy tell us one of the missions is to show that Michael Jackson was a demanding celebrity who wanted what he wanted when he wanted it, even if it posed a danger to himself.

One of the ways the defense will prove its point is with the famous soft drink. Jackson consumed massive quantities of Coca-Cola, knowing full well it was laden with caffeine and would make it next to impossible to fall asleep.

Our sources say the defense has numerous examples of situations where Jackson hyped himself up with caffeine from soda and then used drugs -- including Propofol -- as the ultimate sleeping solution.

The upshot -- Jackson was a guy who wanted instant gratification ... so the notion that he would wake up when Dr. Murray was out of the room, become frustrated and self-medicate with Propofol is consistent with his personality.




Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...z0kCiMrnsE



Why do you keep posting this crap? neutral
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because this is an MJ thread and that's an article about MJ. I see people post TMZ articles all the time so i didn't know people were having a problem.
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Reply #698 posted 04/05/10 12:26am

Timmy84

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NastradumasKid said:




Why do you keep posting this crap? neutral
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because this is an MJ thread and that's an article about MJ. I see people post TMZ articles all the time so i didn't know people were having a problem.


I said it last year I'll say it again:

Fuck TMZ. lol
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Reply #699 posted 04/05/10 12:30am

tangerine7

Funny cause I was reading these about auctions last night.



Michael Jackson's Neverland Auction Cancelled By Randall Roberts, Tuesday, Apr. 14 2009 @ 4:43PM
http://blogs.laweekly.com...and-auc-2/


The Associated Press is reporting that the impending auction of Michael Jackson's Neverland holdings and memorabilia is off. The two sides had been arguing for the past month about whether the auction, which Jackson's production company pursued and contractually obliged itself to, would go on. Seems there was some sort of miscommunication, and Jackson sued to put a halt to the proceedings.
Writes the AP:
Specific terms were not disclosed. But in short, Jackson keeps his things, while Julien's keeps its exhibition, which was open to the public and originally meant to promote next week's sale.

"There was so much interest from so many of Jackson's fans that instead of putting the items in the hands of private collectors, Dr. Tohme and Julien's Auction House have made arrangements that will allow the collection to be shared with and enjoyed by Jackson's fans for many years to come," read a joint statement from Jackson spokesman Dr. Tohme R. Tohme and auction organizer Darren Julien.
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Reply #700 posted 04/05/10 12:33am

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BabyBeMine said:

NastradumasKid said:




Why do you keep posting this crap? neutral
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Why shouldnt it be posted? You want one sides postings that only favor MJ and put Dr Murray away for life. It should be fair outside the courtroom and inside just like MJ in his own trial.

What evidence do you have that this story is not true? Allow it to be presented and proven true or false.


Wow, you really are off your fuckin' high horses aren't you? TMZ isn't always truthworthy anyway. duh
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Reply #701 posted 04/05/10 12:34am

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Reply #702 posted 04/05/10 12:34am

Timmy84

Fuck y'all gossipers, I'm posting pictures. evillol
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Reply #703 posted 04/05/10 12:35am

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Reply #705 posted 04/05/10 12:36am

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thumbs up!

Good cause i was about to get my kfc and vodka.
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Reply #706 posted 04/05/10 12:37am

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Reply #707 posted 04/05/10 12:38am

Timmy84

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thumbs up!

Good cause i was about to get my kfc and vodka.

lol

Yeah I'm taking this thread back, I ain't about to read that garbage unless bboy's posting some stories lol
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Reply #708 posted 04/05/10 12:39am

Timmy84



Student wearing an MJ pin. lol
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Reply #709 posted 04/05/10 12:40am

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Reply #710 posted 04/05/10 12:41am

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The irony!!!! Larry Jacobs as a young man on the cover, later in life play's Joe Jackson in the Jackson 5 movie. lol
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Reply #711 posted 04/05/10 12:41am

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Reply #712 posted 04/05/10 12:42am

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:




The irony!!!! Larry Jacobs as a young man on the cover, later in life play's Joe Jackson in the Jackson 5 movie. lol



Yeah I know right? lol
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Reply #713 posted 04/05/10 12:43am

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Reply #714 posted 04/05/10 12:43am

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tangerine7 said:

thumbs up!

Good cause i was about to get my kfc and vodka.

lol

Yeah I'm taking this thread back, I ain't about to read that garbage unless bboy's posting some stories lol

biggrin yeah.

Timmy84 said:


wow now that's a cool picture.
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Reply #715 posted 04/05/10 12:43am

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:




The irony!!!! Larry Jacobs as a young man on the cover, later in life play's Joe Jackson in the Jackson 5 movie. lol



Yeah I know right? lol


I know!!!! Hilarious!!!!!
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Reply #716 posted 04/05/10 12:44am

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Reply #717 posted 04/05/10 12:44am

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Timmy, where do you get all these pictures from!!!!?? biggrin
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Reply #718 posted 04/05/10 12:45am

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..and so is this one!
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