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The full, 'Moonwalker' cut of 'Smooth Criminal' with the extra lyrics and the full interpretative dance breakdown part is far and away the greatest music video of all time. |
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moderatorbboy87 said: http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackson-Making-Thriller-Days/dp/193323198X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270406957&sr=1-1
Hardcover: 196 pages Publisher: Filipacchi (October 6, 2010) Language: English Price: $29.95 Michael Jackson: The Making of "Thriller" is an illustrated tribute to the King of Pop and his groundbreaking music video, with never-before-seen photos of its creation. The book will feature over 200 exclusive, behind-the-scenes photographs of the artist on set during the 1983 production of the Grammy award winning video directed by John Landis. Considered to be the most successful project of all time, "Thriller" is beloved the world over, inspiring imitation and a cult-like following of millions of fans. Documenting the creation of the most popular and iconic music video of all time, this book will celebrate the artist and his music at the top of his career. Celebrated photographer Douglas Kirkland and journalist Nancy Griffin were the only members of the media allowed on the set of the video. The resulting photos capture Jackson both in high performance mode and relaxing on the set and depict his transformation into the characters in the video as well capturing the public and private faces of Michael Jackson. Compelling, intimate photos of the artist will be accompanied by interviews and quotes from musicians and celebrities. With a holographic cover that transforms the artist into his zombie character, the book will be an impressive gift to be treasured by fans and music lovers everywhere. Douglas Kirkland spent much of his career in New York City before moving to LA in the 1970s. He catapulted to fame when he first photographed Marilyn Monroe. He has also photographed behind the scenes sets of more than one hundred motion pictures, several of them legendary. Named "Photographer of the Year" by the PhotoImaging, Manufacturers, and Distributing Association, he lives in LA with his wife. So no DVD? is this what John Landis was talking about,a book? I'm still going to buy it,I just thought that there would have been a re-release of it on DVD.  [Edited 4/5/10 18:38pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Militant said: The full, 'Moonwalker' cut of 'Smooth Criminal' with the extra lyrics and the full interpretative dance breakdown part is far and away the greatest music video of all time.
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EmeraldSkies said:
The socks. I know I used to wear my socks like that anD I had thesame green pair he wore in private home movies where it shows him coming up with ideals for smooth criminal video. | |
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tangerine7 said: EmeraldSkies said:
The socks. I know I used to wear my socks like that anD I had thesame green pair he wore in private home movieswhere it shows him coming up with ideals for smooth criminal video. I have heard of it,but never seen it. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: tangerine7 said: I know I used to wear my socks like that anD I had thesame green pair he wore in private home movieswhere it shows him coming up with ideals for smooth criminal video. I have heard of it,but never seen it. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: It's one of the greatest videos of all time. Probably THE greatest. I hate to bring that up timmy but I can't believe that Wincy didn't want the song to be on the Bad album?  I mean , can you imagine ? the song is SICK, especially the chorus 
If it wasn’t for MJ, we wouldn't get and see that great short film. Shows how much he knows. I think that at a certain point Quincy lost his ear for a hit. When they were wrapping up the recording sessions for Thriller, he didn't believe that Billie Jean should be on the album.  If it were up to him, we wouldn't have never heard of BJ until the 25th anniversary re-release. ...  | |
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tangerine7 said: EmeraldSkies said: I have heard of it,but never seen it. One thing that's hilarious about Michael is that he was terrible with dates he filmed Smooth Criminal in early 1987. He filmed Bad, Smooth Criminal, and The Way You Make Me Feel before the album was out "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: tangerine7 said: One thing that's hilarious about Michael is that he was terrible with dates he filmed Smooth Criminal in early 1987. He filmed Bad, Smooth Criminal, and The Way You Make Me Feel before the album was out I dont think that was MJ who messed the dates up because when this show first aired, it didnt have 1988 on the screen. It had 1984 | |
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Yeah I doubt MJ put up the years. I'm sure he had dates written to remember things. | |
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Timmy84 said: Yeah I doubt MJ put up the years. I'm sure he had dates written to remember things.
when the show first aired, it had 1984 on the screen and i thought it could have been 1984 because Say Say Say was filmed on the Neverland property the year before, so i thought he went back. THEN i caught myself and said it couldnt be, because that would mean SC was written and recorded in 1984 THEN i had to look at MJs facial features to realize that it WASNT 1984. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I doubt MJ put up the years. I'm sure he had dates written to remember things.
when the show first aired, it had 1984 on the screen and i thought it could have been 1984 because Say Say Say was filmed on the Neverland property the year before, so i thought he went back. THEN i caught myself and said it couldnt be, because that would mean SC was written and recorded in 1984 THEN i had to look at MJs facial features to realize that it WASNT 1984. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I doubt MJ put up the years. I'm sure he had dates written to remember things.
when the show first aired, it had 1984 on the screen and i thought it could have been 1984 because Say Say Say was filmed on the Neverland property the year before, so i thought he went back. THEN i caught myself and said it couldnt be, because that would mean SC was written and recorded in 1984 THEN i had to look at MJs facial features to realize that it WASNT 1984.
And Michael didn't even move to Neverland until '88 but Smooth Criminal was written and demoed back in '84/85 Dirty Diana was written in '83 Liberian Girl was written in '84 The Way You Make Me Feel (then Hot Fever), Another Part Of Me, Speed Demon, and Smooth Criminal were written and demoed in '85 Bad (originally Pee) was from '86 From the Bad/ 1985-1987 sessions, we have Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Speed Demon Liberian Girl Just Good Friends Another Part Of Me Man In The Mirror I Just Can't Stop Loving You Dirty Diana Smooth Criminal Leave Me Alone Streetwalker Cheater Fly Away Bumper Snippet We Are Here To Change The World not sure if Scared Of The Moon belongs on the list.... and Someone Put Your Hand Out was originally from the Bad sessions, the song that inspired Black Or White is rumored to be called "Into The Groove" Come Together was recorded in 1985, and there's a rumor that he also recorded Strawberry Fields and the outtakes we HAVEN'T heard... Make Or Break Chicago 1945 Al Capone What You Do To Me Tomboy The Price Of Fame Groove Of Midnight Crack Kills I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: when the show first aired, it had 1984 on the screen and i thought it could have been 1984 because Say Say Say was filmed on the Neverland property the year before, so i thought he went back. THEN i caught myself and said it couldnt be, because that would mean SC was written and recorded in 1984 THEN i had to look at MJs facial features to realize that it WASNT 1984.
And Michael didn't even move to Neverland until '88 but Smooth Criminal was written and demoed back in '84/85 Dirty Diana was written in '83 Liberian Girl was written in '84 The Way You Make Me Feel (then Hot Fever), Another Part Of Me, Speed Demon, and Smooth Criminal were written and demoed in '85 Bad (originally Pee) was from '86 From the Bad/ 1985-1987 sessions, we have Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Speed Demon Liberian Girl Just Good Friends Another Part Of Me Man In The Mirror I Just Can't Stop Loving You Dirty Diana Smooth Criminal Leave Me Alone Streetwalker Cheater Fly Away Bumper Snippet We Are Here To Change The World not sure if Scared Of The Moon belongs on the list.... and Someone Put Your Hand Out was originally from the Bad sessions, the song that inspired Black Or White is rumored to be called "Into The Groove" Come Together was recorded in 1985, and there's a rumor that he also recorded Strawberry Fields and the outtakes we HAVEN'T heard... Make Or Break Chicago 1945 Al Capone What You Do To Me Tomboy The Price Of Fame Groove Of Midnight Crack Kills I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting I wanna hear the original version of Someone Put Your Hand Out. As far as Get Into The Groove/Black or White goes, isn't the vocals on BoW the original scratch vocals he did back in 1987? | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said:
And Michael didn't even move to Neverland until '88 but Smooth Criminal was written and demoed back in '84/85 Dirty Diana was written in '83 Liberian Girl was written in '84 The Way You Make Me Feel (then Hot Fever), Another Part Of Me, Speed Demon, and Smooth Criminal were written and demoed in '85 Bad (originally Pee) was from '86 From the Bad/ 1985-1987 sessions, we have Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Speed Demon Liberian Girl Just Good Friends Another Part Of Me Man In The Mirror I Just Can't Stop Loving You Dirty Diana Smooth Criminal Leave Me Alone Streetwalker Cheater Fly Away Bumper Snippet We Are Here To Change The World not sure if Scared Of The Moon belongs on the list.... and Someone Put Your Hand Out was originally from the Bad sessions, the song that inspired Black Or White is rumored to be called "Into The Groove" Come Together was recorded in 1985, and there's a rumor that he also recorded Strawberry Fields and the outtakes we HAVEN'T heard... Make Or Break Chicago 1945 Al Capone What You Do To Me Tomboy The Price Of Fame Groove Of Midnight Crack Kills I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting I wanna hear the original version of Someone Put Your Hand Out. As far as Get Into The Groove/Black or White goes, isn't the vocals on BoW the original scratch vocals he did back in 1987? ViintageJunkiie  | |
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Of all the albums, we have the most material from Thriller and Dangerous
THRILLER: Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' Baby Be Mine The Girl Is Mine Thriller Beat It Billie Jean Human Nature PYT The Lady In My Life Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo #1) Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo #2) Baby Be Mine (Demo) The Girl Is Mine (Solo Demo) Starlight Beat It (Demo) Billie Jean (Demo #1) Billie Jean (Demo #2) Billie Jean (Demo #3) PYT (Instrumental) PYT (Demo) The Lady In My Life (Uncut Version) Carousel Hot Street Slapstick She's Trouble (Demo) She's Trouble Nightline Got The Hots Carousel (Writers' Demo) She's Trouble (Writers' Demo) Nightline (Writers' Demo) Human Nature (Writers' Demo) DANGEROUS: Jam Why You Wanna Trip On Me In The Closet She Drives Me Wild Remember The Time Can't Let Her Get Away Heal The World Black Or White Who Is It Give In To Me Will You Be There Keep The Faith Gone Too Soon Dangerous Then the outtakes: Serious Effect For All Time Monkey Business If You Don't Love Me She Got It Work That Body then Someone Put Your Hand Out Songs that were recorded for Dangerous were released on different albums: Superfly Sister Blood On The Dancefloor Earth Song They Don't Care About Us Then we have outtakes we haven't heard yet I'll Be There Never Can Say Goodbye Men In Black Verdict Seven Digits Satisfy You Stay Deep In The Night Pressure and then the demos and alternate takes In The Closet Dangerous Who Is It Gone Too Soon Keep The Faith and so on and so on..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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NastradumasKid said: ViintageJunkiie said: I wanna hear the original version of Someone Put Your Hand Out. As far as Get Into The Groove/Black or White goes, isn't the vocals on BoW the original scratch vocals he did back in 1987? ViintageJunkiie lol what's that for? | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said:
And Michael didn't even move to Neverland until '88 but Smooth Criminal was written and demoed back in '84/85 Dirty Diana was written in '83 Liberian Girl was written in '84 The Way You Make Me Feel (then Hot Fever), Another Part Of Me, Speed Demon, and Smooth Criminal were written and demoed in '85 Bad (originally Pee) was from '86 From the Bad/ 1985-1987 sessions, we have Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Speed Demon Liberian Girl Just Good Friends Another Part Of Me Man In The Mirror I Just Can't Stop Loving You Dirty Diana Smooth Criminal Leave Me Alone Streetwalker Cheater Fly Away Bumper Snippet We Are Here To Change The World not sure if Scared Of The Moon belongs on the list.... and Someone Put Your Hand Out was originally from the Bad sessions, the song that inspired Black Or White is rumored to be called "Into The Groove" Come Together was recorded in 1985, and there's a rumor that he also recorded Strawberry Fields and the outtakes we HAVEN'T heard... Make Or Break Chicago 1945 Al Capone What You Do To Me Tomboy The Price Of Fame Groove Of Midnight Crack Kills I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting I wanna hear the original version of Someone Put Your Hand Out. As far as Get Into The Groove/Black or White goes, isn't the vocals on BoW the original scratch vocals he did back in 1987? Nah not the 1987 vocals, the vocals from 1990 demo the 1987 track was, from what I know, very different from the finished cut "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Of all the albums, we have the most material from Thriller and Dangerous
THRILLER: Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' Baby Be Mine The Girl Is Mine Thriller Beat It Billie Jean Human Nature PYT The Lady In My Life Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo #1) Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo #2) Baby Be Mine (Demo) The Girl Is Mine (Solo Demo) Starlight Beat It (Demo) Billie Jean (Demo #1) Billie Jean (Demo #2) Billie Jean (Demo #3) PYT (Instrumental) PYT (Demo) The Lady In My Life (Uncut Version) Carousel Hot Street Slapstick She's Trouble (Demo) She's Trouble Nightline Got The Hots Carousel (Writers' Demo) She's Trouble (Writers' Demo) Nightline (Writers' Demo) Human Nature (Writers' Demo) DANGEROUS: Jam Why You Wanna Trip On Me In The Closet She Drives Me Wild Remember The Time Can't Let Her Get Away Heal The World Black Or White Who Is It Give In To Me Will You Be There Keep The Faith Gone Too Soon Dangerous Then the outtakes: Serious Effect For All Time Monkey Business If You Don't Love Me She Got It Work That Body then Someone Put Your Hand Out Songs that were recorded for Dangerous were released on different albums: Superfly Sister Blood On The Dancefloor Earth Song They Don't Care About Us Then we have outtakes we haven't heard yet I'll Be There Never Can Say Goodbye Men In Black Verdict Seven Digits Satisfy You Stay Deep In The Night Pressure and then the demos and alternate takes In The Closet Dangerous Who Is It Gone Too Soon Keep The Faith and so on and so on..... I'm still waiting on that "piano driven" track called "Don't Be Messin Around" from the Thriller session to leak. That guy made it seem like it was gonna be on Thriller 25. Only difference in Earth Song demo is the climax. Seems like the vocals are the exact same. | |
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: I wanna hear the original version of Someone Put Your Hand Out. As far as Get Into The Groove/Black or White goes, isn't the vocals on BoW the original scratch vocals he did back in 1987? Nah not the 1987 vocals, the vocals from 1990 demo the 1987 track was, from what I know, very different from the finished cut son of a biscuit eating bulldog! I NEED these demos man. Didn't he start working on Dangerous album right after he wrapped up the Bad session? | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said: Nah not the 1987 vocals, the vocals from 1990 demo the 1987 track was, from what I know, very different from the finished cut son of a biscuit eating bulldog! I NEED these demos man. Didn't he start working on Dangerous album right after he wrapped up the Bad session? That's what Bruce Swedien said. Michael Boddicker, Michael's keyboardist, made it seem like Michael was starting work on it while they were busy mixing down Bad
He said Quincy and Michael would be in one studio but Michael was also using another room to explore his ideas. He started working with Bryan Loren in '88 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: NastradumasKid said: ViintageJunkiie lol what's that for? You know...    | |
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NastradumasKid said: ViintageJunkiie said: lol what's that for? You know... tryna give me some sexual healing? | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: NastradumasKid said: You know... tryna give me some sexual healing?Sure why not? *Starts to play Rock with You* | |
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So in the next 2 years we can expect
Fated the comic book Moonwalker on Blu Ray (coming out in a couple of weeks) Making Michael Jackson's Thriller on DVD Thriller in 3D (possibly) the new album in November Off The Wall deluxe edition in 2011 Bad deluxe edition in 2012 another album in 2012 or 2013 Bad Tour on DVD The Jackson 5 live at the Forum (either 1970 or 1972) (possible, Motown is still considering) a deluxe edition of I Want You Back!: The Unreleased Masters "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: So in the next 2 years we can expect
Fated the comic book Moonwalker on Blu Ray (coming out in a couple of weeks) Making Michael Jackson's Thriller on DVD Thriller in 3D (possibly) the new album in November Off The Wall deluxe edition in 2011 Bad deluxe edition in 2012 another album in 2012 or 2013 Bad Tour on DVD The Jackson 5 live at the Forum (either 1970 or 1972) (possible, Motown is still considering) a deluxe edition of I Want You Back!: The Unreleased Masters how sure is it that another album will be coming in November? | |
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NastradumasKid said: ViintageJunkiie said: tryna give me some sexual healing?Sure why not? *Starts to play Rock with You* Let | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said: So in the next 2 years we can expect
Fated the comic book Moonwalker on Blu Ray (coming out in a couple of weeks) Making Michael Jackson's Thriller on DVD Thriller in 3D (possibly) the new album in November Off The Wall deluxe edition in 2011 Bad deluxe edition in 2012 another album in 2012 or 2013 Bad Tour on DVD The Jackson 5 live at the Forum (either 1970 or 1972) (possible, Motown is still considering) a deluxe edition of I Want You Back!: The Unreleased Masters how sure is it that another album will be coming in November? YOU AIN'T HEARD?!!!! Sony is releasing the first posthumous album in November. It's in the track selection process right now. So far, Lenny Kravitz said that Another Day will be on there  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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