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PrintableTimmy84 said: graecophilos said: Yeah, I apologize. I didn't want to offend my friends. I was hoping, with all that I've said in the past years you would get the "joke", I think I'm not known as a racist in here? I'm not gonna delete my post though, coz it's unbrave Well it's gonna get snipped anyways but people will see it because they quoted you. I don't think you're racist but I do think your comment was just ignorant and if you were anywhere else, you WILL be called racist, that's just my feeling on it. I hardly say that shit about anybody so why should it be ok for anybody of any race to joke about how we look in terms of racial backgrounds, I don't get that. [Edited 10/24/09 13:20pm] Well, you're right. I'm not gonna talk about it anymore. Each excuse can be misleading, and at the end of the day I think people in here know better. | |
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graecophilos said: Timmy84 said: Mike may not have had approximately a billion but the man had fans in the multi-millions so billion is not FAR OFF. You forget we have 6 or 7 billion folks in the world, I'm sure at least 1 billion have a lot of MJ albums and/or merchandise of him, lol
we've got ca. 6,7 billion people. If Mj sold 500 mio albums, 10 of them are MINE. So, even if he sold 1 billion records, it's a save bet that many people have several Mj records. Thriller (I still don't belive it sold 110 mio) sold much because many who had just the LP or MC buyed the CD or digital version later. But no way he is that big in Asia or Africa. Whatever we hear from those countries, the media always just reports about his FANS! Means we're spoiled and can't estimate the real figure of MJ fans in those countries. And what's considered fan anyway? One single? One album= Once conert 30 years ago and the rest was making jokes about him? Fact is, in the last years his active fan circle shrinked from year to year. Now that he's dead it's en vogue to "ADMIT" to be an MJ fan, but people wanna have Thriller-Mike, not Break Of Dawn or 2000-Watts Mike. He ain't big in Asia and Africa? OK... lol Well if he wasn't popular in Asia, why did China wanted him to perform there so badly? Why is he revered in Taiwan and India and South Korea? Why did he sold out stadiums and got mobbed when he arrived in Japan? Oh and Africa, the same continent where in one country, he was actually crowned a honorary prince at? OK... that's "unpopular", lol.  | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: What in the world is going on in this thread lmao
Craziness. As much as I'm a fan I am seriously about over this mess I don't even look for news etc on the jacksons like that anymore it's becoming a overkill smh , it's too much now | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Craziness. As much as I'm a fan I am seriously about over this mess I don't even look for news etc on the jacksons like that anymore it's becoming a overkill smh , it's too much now I feel ya. | |
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Timmy84 said: graecophilos said: we've got ca. 6,7 billion people. If Mj sold 500 mio albums, 10 of them are MINE. So, even if he sold 1 billion records, it's a save bet that many people have several Mj records. Thriller (I still don't belive it sold 110 mio) sold much because many who had just the LP or MC buyed the CD or digital version later. But no way he is that big in Asia or Africa. Whatever we hear from those countries, the media always just reports about his FANS! Means we're spoiled and can't estimate the real figure of MJ fans in those countries. And what's considered fan anyway? One single? One album= Once conert 30 years ago and the rest was making jokes about him? Fact is, in the last years his active fan circle shrinked from year to year. Now that he's dead it's en vogue to "ADMIT" to be an MJ fan, but people wanna have Thriller-Mike, not Break Of Dawn or 2000-Watts Mike. He ain't big in Asia and Africa? OK... lol Well if he wasn't popular in Asia, why did China wanted him to perform there so badly? Why is he revered in Taiwan and India and South Korea? Why did he sold out stadiums and got mobbed when he arrived in Japan? Oh and Africa, the same continent where in one country, he was actually crowned a honorary prince at? OK... that's "unpopular", lol. I feel like in his last years he was popular but mainly in other countries not here in America like that.. it was negativity towards him ,now it's not like that of course but makes sense he would do the tour in london he couldn't sell out here | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: He ain't big in Asia and Africa? OK... lol Well if he wasn't popular in Asia, why did China wanted him to perform there so badly? Why is he revered in Taiwan and India and South Korea? Why did he sold out stadiums and got mobbed when he arrived in Japan? Oh and Africa, the same continent where in one country, he was actually crowned a honorary prince at? OK... that's "unpopular", lol. I feel like in his last years he was popular but mainly in other countries not here in America like that.. it was negativity towards him ,now it's not like that of course but makes sense he would do the tour in london he couldn't sell out here Apparently, America's interest in the Court Case decisions was not that big. The ratings of the TV live reports were much, MUCH lower than in, let's say Europe, Or China or Africa.... EMOTICON:  [Edited 10/24/09 13:34pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: graecophilos said: we've got ca. 6,7 billion people. If Mj sold 500 mio albums, 10 of them are MINE. So, even if he sold 1 billion records, it's a save bet that many people have several Mj records. Thriller (I still don't belive it sold 110 mio) sold much because many who had just the LP or MC buyed the CD or digital version later. But no way he is that big in Asia or Africa. Whatever we hear from those countries, the media always just reports about his FANS! Means we're spoiled and can't estimate the real figure of MJ fans in those countries. And what's considered fan anyway? One single? One album= Once conert 30 years ago and the rest was making jokes about him? Fact is, in the last years his active fan circle shrinked from year to year. Now that he's dead it's en vogue to "ADMIT" to be an MJ fan, but people wanna have Thriller-Mike, not Break Of Dawn or 2000-Watts Mike. He ain't big in Asia and Africa? OK... lol Well if he wasn't popular in Asia, why did China wanted him to perform there so badly? Why is he revered in Taiwan and India and South Korea? Why did he sold out stadiums and got mobbed when he arrived in Japan? Oh and Africa, the same continent where in one country, he was actually crowned a honorary prince at? OK... that's "unpopular", lol. I admit I was wrong with Asia. Asia is big and consists of many countries. The ones that are Communist countries are less Mj affine than Japan or Korea. Speaking of China: Even if he has 1 mio fans in there, they just make up less than 0,1% of ALL CHINESE people, so you can't say he was HUGE in China. The Africa-crowning thing is sth the media reported because it's funny, but in fact, MJ didn't have the impact on Africa's nations than he had in Europe pr America. This SHOULD be sarcastic but it's unfortunately true: Many Africans have other problems than whether or not they own Thriller deluxe or sth. Even if they've heard Billie Jean on the radio, they're not FANS! | |
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People loved him here in america but not like LOVED HIM like before lol , the scandals really messed him up . That's why I feel it's alot of bandwagon fans now | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: He ain't big in Asia and Africa? OK... lol Well if he wasn't popular in Asia, why did China wanted him to perform there so badly? Why is he revered in Taiwan and India and South Korea? Why did he sold out stadiums and got mobbed when he arrived in Japan? Oh and Africa, the same continent where in one country, he was actually crowned a honorary prince at? OK... that's "unpopular", lol. I feel like in his last years he was popular but mainly in other countries not here in America like that.. it was negativity towards him ,now it's not like that of course but makes sense he would do the tour in london he couldn't sell out here Yeah and he was extremely popular overseas especially in Europe and Asia and Australia. And yes he had big fan bases on all six land continents. | |
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babybugz said: People loved him here in america but not like LOVED HIM like before lol , the scandals really messed him up . That's why I feel it's alot of bandwagon fans now
Pretty much. Our country basically dissed him after the two court cases but I still believe he'd attract millions in the U.S. because he still had a huge fan base. If he had lived and the o2 Tour was a success, I definitely believe he would've toured the U.S. after Asia and Australia and places that they were willing to go. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: I feel like in his last years he was popular but mainly in other countries not here in America like that.. it was negativity towards him ,now it's not like that of course but makes sense he would do the tour in london he couldn't sell out here Yeah and he was extremely popular overseas especially in Europe and Asia and Australia. And yes he had big fan bases on all six land continents. Exactly | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: People loved him here in america but not like LOVED HIM like before lol , the scandals really messed him up . That's why I feel it's alot of bandwagon fans now
Pretty much. Our country basically dissed him after the two court cases but I still believe he'd attract millions in the U.S. because he still had a huge fan base. If he had lived and the o2 Tour was a success, I definitely believe he would've toured the U.S. after Asia and Australia and places that they were willing to go. Oh Definitely just by the reaction to his death here he had fans , he was just kind of look at has a joke here really smh | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Pretty much. Our country basically dissed him after the two court cases but I still believe he'd attract millions in the U.S. because he still had a huge fan base. If he had lived and the o2 Tour was a success, I definitely believe he would've toured the U.S. after Asia and Australia and places that they were willing to go. Oh Definitely just by the reaction to his death here he had fans , he was just kind of look at has a joke here really smh Yeah you're right. It's a shame. Like Jay said, we did him wrong. Our media here is more powerful in the way people looked at MJ prior to June 25 so it seems real bandwagon-ish. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Oh Definitely just by the reaction to his death here he had fans , he was just kind of look at has a joke here really smh Yeah you're right. It's a shame. Like Jay said, we did him wrong. Our media here is more powerful in the way people looked at MJ prior to June 25 so it seems real bandwagon-ish. It really does and I know it's not like everybody jumped on board but most lol the media is crazy . | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Yeah you're right. It's a shame. Like Jay said, we did him wrong. Our media here is more powerful in the way people looked at MJ prior to June 25 so it seems real bandwagon-ish. It really does and I know it's not like everybody jumped on board but most lol the media is crazy . Yeah, most, lol There's still folks who act ignorant but we're not going to get into that, I mean they're all over YouTube.  | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: It really does and I know it's not like everybody jumped on board but most lol the media is crazy . Yeah, most, lol There's still folks who act ignorant but we're not going to get into that, I mean they're all over YouTube. Yeah they still there | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Yeah, most, lol There's still folks who act ignorant but we're not going to get into that, I mean they're all over YouTube. Yeah they still there All on their YouTube videos with their fake tough voices talking about "you pussies who worship the King of..." I be ready to slap their asses. | |
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you always say weird shit graecophilos. and joke or not what i read ain't cool....
thats the hold back version. trust me | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Oh Definitely just by the reaction to his death here he had fans , he was just kind of look at has a joke here really smh Yeah you're right. It's a shame. Like Jay said, we did him wrong. Our media here is more powerful in the way people looked at MJ prior to June 25 so it seems real bandwagon-ish. there is an awful lot of grief groupies out there, funny thing is they missed the good times now all they have to look forward to is new greatest hits albums With Love there is no Death | |
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i'm happy as heck i didn't miss the good ol days with mike They'll be and always have been MJ & J5 albums in my collection. | |
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Michael was HUGE in Asia, especially in Japan, as is Janet "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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There talking about This Is It on the TV Guide Channel. Showing all kinds of stuff,and talking to the different people that were going to be involved in the tours. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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You Not Me
Lovely One and In The Life Of Chico 
Little Susie 
Be Not Always 
song titles  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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i honestly believe that if mj would have left 3 lil brown kids behind it wouldnt be this uproar over the jackson family and his estate. its real easy for fans to talk about the family being broke but they was crying when the media was talking about michael's financial problems.i dont know why people are so eager to try and seperate mj from his family and it aint nothing wrong with mrs jackson sharing her son's wealth with his siblings. | |
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lowkey said: i honestly believe that if mj would have left 3 lil brown kids behind it wouldnt be this uproar over the jackson family and his estate. its real easy for fans to talk about the family being broke but they was crying when the media was talking about michael's financial problems.i dont know why people are so eager to try and seperate mj from his family and it aint nothing wrong with mrs jackson sharing her son's wealth with his siblings.
Many people I know wish he had "3 lil brown" children. I'm not going to state how I feel about his choices in mothers anymore. Blanket fortunately looks just like him, and Prince is growing to resemble him, so it's fine now anyway. However, even if their skin had darker complexions, the media intrusion would be the same, or, to a even greater extent. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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Fuxx that. I really could care. My own family's multi-racial be it adopted or birth or whatever. It shouldn't be an issue but it is and it's frustrating. | |
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What 80's song does this remind u of
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JarviusLovesexy said: What 80's song does this remind u of
Easy, "Man in the Mirror" especially the ending. | |
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^ your right, man in the mirror ends emotionally and passionately well.
It was like being in Church, Mike was preaching with the goodness..one of my all fav tracks. "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP | |
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