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sosgemini said: i hate this one thread for all format. first of all, you peeps keep posting pics and youtube clips and what not and it takes forever for the link to load and thats causing peeps to miss others questions...maybe they can create a thread for all you pic/clip lovers.
That's why I took the "see whole thread when replying" option off earlier  Shit was getting annoying  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I was just watching the news,and they showed a clip of the Thriller video. Tomorrow fans are going to try to do a mass Thriller dance around the world.
http://www.thrilltheworld.com/ [Edited 10/23/09 23:27pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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dag said: EmeraldSkies said: Now this is something I am truly not interesting in seeing.  looks interesting to , i'll watch  "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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he should have performed more songs from off the wall more often
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kibbles said: mrsnet said: first of all, their dad's life was not sad. He inspired the world, brought to it beauty n joy. Now to the point - i find it hilarious, the speculation about the Jacksons money, wealth. You don't know ANYTHING about their finances. The Jackson brothers are still getting royalties for their music. They are not broke. Janet is loaded and has no kids. They are a dynasty. What makes you think the brother's children wont grow up and become lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc. They will educate their children.Why would u use the term 'welfare'? Sounds racist to me. That entire family deserve to be wealthy. Of course, Never as much as Michael's kids,and that won't happen. but they are part of a dynasty. Katherine has 40% n if u think she's not goinng to invest those hundreds of millions to benefit all of her kids then you don't know black mothers. You said someone should step in between those kids and that family. Well THAT family happens to be Prince, Paris, and Blankets family. Who's going to protect them better than their grandmother? well, i won't profess to know all black mothers, but i know mine and that's quite enough. your point is completely irrelevant. yes, welfare. when mj set up this situation of allowing his brothers to exploit him he taught his nieces and nephews that they can be dependent on him, not their own fathers, but him. just like a lot of men in the black community who have abandoned their responsibilities because the government has stepped in to do the job that they should be doing, mj had stepped in to do the job that his brothers should be doing. i have read that mj was responsible for educating some of his brothers' children. i'd be happy to hear if any of them have become accomplished doctors or lawyers, but i don't think that's the case. katherine will get 40% of the profits from the estate during her lifetime. due to the debts on the estate, there may be no profits for a while. good for her if she gets money to invest, but given the fact that she and her husband racked up debts totalling $25million dollars in their bankruptcy a few years ago, in spite of mj giving her money during his lifetime, it would appear she does not have the intellect to do that. the brothers would not be involved in doing a reality series if they had money. that's what you do when you have no money. randy himself took that shot at his brothers (tmz website). you don't go running to brit tabs for a check to sell your brother's like everyone else (latoya, tito, marlon). jermaine has said in court papers that he is broke. no one in this life deserves anything. mj made his money and he had a right to dictate where it should go, period. on edt: yes, mj's life was sad. he spoke at great length of his loneliness, and he clearly felt there were few people in his family to whom he could turn or wanted to. [Edited 10/23/09 22:21pm] Again, you don't know anything about the finances of the Jacksons. How can you? you don't know these people. All of this speculation is crazy. Nobody talks about the very rich Janet who has no kids. Look, they are a dynasty. N nobody is giving them anything, they've worked since childhood n opened doors for Blacks in entertainment. They deserve all the best. No one knows how they've invested their money. Randy said they don't need money. I choose to believe him rather than some fans who follow the lying media. As I said, they never stopped getting royalties. Again, MJ did NOT have a sad life. It was adventure filled, had 3 beautiful kids, loved by billions, shared his gifts and genius and changed the world. God Bless The Jacksons - all of them. I love 'em. | |
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mrsnet said: kibbles said: well, i won't profess to know all black mothers, but i know mine and that's quite enough. your point is completely irrelevant. yes, welfare. when mj set up this situation of allowing his brothers to exploit him he taught his nieces and nephews that they can be dependent on him, not their own fathers, but him. just like a lot of men in the black community who have abandoned their responsibilities because the government has stepped in to do the job that they should be doing, mj had stepped in to do the job that his brothers should be doing. i have read that mj was responsible for educating some of his brothers' children. i'd be happy to hear if any of them have become accomplished doctors or lawyers, but i don't think that's the case. katherine will get 40% of the profits from the estate during her lifetime. due to the debts on the estate, there may be no profits for a while. good for her if she gets money to invest, but given the fact that she and her husband racked up debts totalling $25million dollars in their bankruptcy a few years ago, in spite of mj giving her money during his lifetime, it would appear she does not have the intellect to do that. the brothers would not be involved in doing a reality series if they had money. that's what you do when you have no money. randy himself took that shot at his brothers (tmz website). you don't go running to brit tabs for a check to sell your brother's like everyone else (latoya, tito, marlon). jermaine has said in court papers that he is broke. no one in this life deserves anything. mj made his money and he had a right to dictate where it should go, period. on edt: yes, mj's life was sad. he spoke at great length of his loneliness, and he clearly felt there were few people in his family to whom he could turn or wanted to. [Edited 10/23/09 22:21pm] Again, you don't know anything about the finances of the Jacksons. How can you? you don't know these people. All of this speculation is crazy. Nobody talks about the very rich Janet who has no kids. Look, they are a dynasty. N nobody is giving them anything, they've worked since childhood n opened doors for Blacks in entertainment. They deserve all the best. No one knows how they've invested their money. Randy said they don't need money. I choose to believe him rather than some fans who follow the lying media. As I said, they never stopped getting royalties. Again, MJ did NOT have a sad life. It was adventure filled, had 3 beautiful kids, loved by billions, shared his gifts and genius and changed the world. God Bless The Jacksons - all of them. I love 'em. man, are you naive. 1.) The press always told lies about the Jacksons. But the biggest lies about the Jacksons came from the J members themselves! 2.) Jackson did NOt have a sad life: So, you blame someone of talking bout things he can't know (finances), yet to claim to know how MJ felt? In all honesty, from the man himself there are so many quotes hinting bout sadness and depression. Where do you live? Still in Motown-1971-ABC? 3.) He had 3 beautiful kids... okay, and with them a lot of stories. Why were they adopted, who would be their mothers etc... you see, everything in MJ's life was complicated. 4.) It was adventure filles - yeah, paparazzi, millions of people making jokes about your looks and claiming you're a pedophile, leading into two nerve wracking - pardon me, "adventurous", court cases. THAT was MJ's reality in terms of his relationship with the public in the last 15 years. Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie. | |
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graecophilos said: mrsnet said: Again, you don't know anything about the finances of the Jacksons. How can you? you don't know these people. All of this speculation is crazy. Nobody talks about the very rich Janet who has no kids. Look, they are a dynasty. N nobody is giving them anything, they've worked since childhood n opened doors for Blacks in entertainment. They deserve all the best. No one knows how they've invested their money. Randy said they don't need money. I choose to believe him rather than some fans who follow the lying media. As I said, they never stopped getting royalties. Again, MJ did NOT have a sad life. It was adventure filled, had 3 beautiful kids, loved by billions, shared his gifts and genius and changed the world. God Bless The Jacksons - all of them. I love 'em. man, are you naive. 1.) The press always told lies about the Jacksons. But the biggest lies about the Jacksons came from the J members themselves! 2.) Jackson did NOt have a sad life: So, you blame someone of talking bout things he can't know (finances), yet to claim to know how MJ felt? In all honesty, from the man himself there are so many quotes hinting bout sadness and depression. Where do you live? Still in Motown-1971-ABC? 3.) He had 3 beautiful kids... okay, and with them a lot of stories. Why were they adopted, who would be their mothers etc... you see, everything in MJ's life was complicated. 4.) It was adventure filles - yeah, paparazzi, millions of people making jokes about your looks and claiming you're a pedophile, leading into two nerve wracking - pardon me, "adventurous", court cases. THAT was MJ's reality in terms of his relationship with the public in the last 15 years. Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie. also, I doubt the JACKSONS opened doors for black people. MJ in the early 80s, yeah. But after all it was MOTOWN who contracted them and promoted them. | |
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graecophilos said: mrsnet said: Again, you don't know anything about the finances of the Jacksons. How can you? you don't know these people. All of this speculation is crazy. Nobody talks about the very rich Janet who has no kids. Look, they are a dynasty. N nobody is giving them anything, they've worked since childhood n opened doors for Blacks in entertainment. They deserve all the best. No one knows how they've invested their money. Randy said they don't need money. I choose to believe him rather than some fans who follow the lying media. As I said, they never stopped getting royalties. Again, MJ did NOT have a sad life. It was adventure filled, had 3 beautiful kids, loved by billions, shared his gifts and genius and changed the world. God Bless The Jacksons - all of them. I love 'em. man, are you naive. 1.) The press always told lies about the Jacksons. But the biggest lies about the Jacksons came from the J members themselves! 2.) Jackson did NOt have a sad life: So, you blame someone of talking bout things he can't know (finances), yet to claim to know how MJ felt? In all honesty, from the man himself there are so many quotes hinting bout sadness and depression. Where do you live? Still in Motown-1971-ABC? 3.) He had 3 beautiful kids... okay, and with them a lot of stories. Why were they adopted, who would be their mothers etc... you see, everything in MJ's life was complicated. 4.) It was adventure filles - yeah, paparazzi, millions of people making jokes about your looks and claiming you're a pedophile, leading into two nerve wracking - pardon me, "adventurous", court cases. THAT was MJ's reality in terms of his relationship with the public in the last 15 years. Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie. ??? where did you get that? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: EmeraldSkies said: Now this is something I am truly not interesting in seeing. Why? Personally I will watch. I love J5 and The Jacksons but I have a bad feeling that this will end with controversy like so much else with this family. | |
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dag said: EmeraldSkies said: Now this is something I am truly not interesting in seeing. Why? Personally I will watch. I love J5 and The Jacksons but I have a bad feeling that this will end with controversy like so much else with this family. | |
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The constant “bashing” of the Jackson family is ridiculous! Michael was a part of this family whether people like it or not. He left he children and money to his mother, fully aware that other family members would be involved.
Michael Jackson became famous as part of the Jackson 5. Before Thiller, millions of people loved the entire Jackson family starting in 1969. The Jackson 5 did have a HUGE influence in the black community. Please stop will M.J. and Thiller was the ONLY influence. The group was a big success in the 1970’s and made an impact on everything in our community, especially young people. Michael Jackson had enough financial resources to provide for his ENTIRE FAMILY and he should have! Who should have gotten the money Sony and all the other leeches in the business? | |
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manthevan said: dag said: Now this is something I am truly not interesting in seeing. Why? Personally I will watch. I love J5 and The Jacksons but I have a bad feeling that this will end with controversy like so much else with this family. this is abit too soon  why are they rushing things out they expect people to forget MJ so soon.
Maybe it's true the US has not paid any respect to MJ or the Family in years until he died ...so they are milking it i guess.... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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graecophilos said: Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie.
Agreed, I doubt any pop act ever had "billions of fans". It's one thing that practically everyone knows who MJ is and most of them probably does not change the station when "Billie Jean" comes on but that hardly equals fans. | |
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| good times! now i want some raisins
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dag said: graecophilos said: man, are you naive. 1.) The press always told lies about the Jacksons. But the biggest lies about the Jacksons came from the J members themselves! 2.) Jackson did NOt have a sad life: So, you blame someone of talking bout things he can't know (finances), yet to claim to know how MJ felt? In all honesty, from the man himself there are so many quotes hinting bout sadness and depression. Where do you live? Still in Motown-1971-ABC? 3.) He had 3 beautiful kids... okay, and with them a lot of stories. Why were they adopted, who would be their mothers etc... you see, everything in MJ's life was complicated. 4.) It was adventure filles - yeah, paparazzi, millions of people making jokes about your looks and claiming you're a pedophile, leading into two nerve wracking - pardon me, "adventurous", court cases. THAT was MJ's reality in terms of his relationship with the public in the last 15 years. Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie. ??? where did you get that? THIS IS QUITE SARCASTIC: [Racial slur snip - luv4u] | |
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graecophilos said: dag said: ??? where did you get that? [Racial slur snip - luv4u] | |
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graecophilos said: dag said: ??? where did you get that? [Racial slur snip - luv4u] graecophilos, that had to be one of the most ignorant things I've EVER read on this site  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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graecophilos said: dag said: ??? where did you get that? [Racial slur snip - luv4u] You know what, your ass is getting reported.  | |
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graecophilos said: mrsnet said: Again, you don't know anything about the finances of the Jacksons. How can you? you don't know these people. All of this speculation is crazy. Nobody talks about the very rich Janet who has no kids. Look, they are a dynasty. N nobody is giving them anything, they've worked since childhood n opened doors for Blacks in entertainment. They deserve all the best. No one knows how they've invested their money. Randy said they don't need money. I choose to believe him rather than some fans who follow the lying media. As I said, they never stopped getting royalties. Again, MJ did NOT have a sad life. It was adventure filled, had 3 beautiful kids, loved by billions, shared his gifts and genius and changed the world. God Bless The Jacksons - all of them. I love 'em. man, are you naive. 1.) The press always told lies about the Jacksons. But the biggest lies about the Jacksons came from the J members themselves! 2.) Jackson did NOt have a sad life: So, you blame someone of talking bout things he can't know (finances), yet to claim to know how MJ felt? In all honesty, from the man himself there are so many quotes hinting bout sadness and depression. Where do you live? Still in Motown-1971-ABC? 3.) He had 3 beautiful kids... okay, and with them a lot of stories. Why were they adopted, who would be their mothers etc... you see, everything in MJ's life was complicated. 4.) It was adventure filles - yeah, paparazzi, millions of people making jokes about your looks and claiming you're a pedophile, leading into two nerve wracking - pardon me, "adventurous", court cases. THAT was MJ's reality in terms of his relationship with the public in the last 15 years. Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie. You're the naive one. 'billions'- hey didn't think anyone would take it so literal. Of course he probably did have billions of fans during the Thriller phenomenon. practually everyone on the planet loved mike then. His life was not sad. sure he talked about being lonely but he also talked about being blessed. And how happy he was God had bestowed him with his unique gift.He traveled the world n met the leaders of the world. He was filthy rich and enjoyed a lavish lifestyle. His family and close friends talk about how much fun he was to be around.. That he was a practical joker. What does that say about him? Doesn't sound too gloomy to me. I read somewhere that MJ had received more awards than anyone in history. many of these for his music/dance - something he LOVED doing. How many of us are fortunate enough to get paid for doing what we love? Sure he had sadness, like all of us. All humans have sadness. But there was also joy. | |
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Mike may not have had approximately a billion but the man had fans in the multi-millions so billion is not FAR OFF. You forget we have 6 or 7 billion folks in the world, I'm sure at least 1 billion have a lot of MJ albums and/or merchandise of him, lol | |
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graecophilos said: dag said: ??? where did you get that? [Racial slur snip - luv4u]   Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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bboy87 said: graecophilos said: [Racial slur snip - luv4u] graecophilos, that had to be one of the most ignorant things I've EVER read on this site Oh no, please excuse me. It was meant to be sarcastic. [Racial slur snip - luv4u] is what Mj's brother always told him. I'm aware I was stereotyping afros, and stuff! Excuse me, I love you! | |
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mrsnet said: graecophilos said: man, are you naive. 1.) The press always told lies about the Jacksons. But the biggest lies about the Jacksons came from the J members themselves! 2.) Jackson did NOt have a sad life: So, you blame someone of talking bout things he can't know (finances), yet to claim to know how MJ felt? In all honesty, from the man himself there are so many quotes hinting bout sadness and depression. Where do you live? Still in Motown-1971-ABC? 3.) He had 3 beautiful kids... okay, and with them a lot of stories. Why were they adopted, who would be their mothers etc... you see, everything in MJ's life was complicated. 4.) It was adventure filles - yeah, paparazzi, millions of people making jokes about your looks and claiming you're a pedophile, leading into two nerve wracking - pardon me, "adventurous", court cases. THAT was MJ's reality in terms of his relationship with the public in the last 15 years. Plus he did not have billions of fans. That's a pure lie. You're the naive one. 'billions'- hey didn't think anyone would take it so literal. Of course he probably did have billions of fans during the Thriller phenomenon. practually everyone on the planet loved mike then. His life was not sad. sure he talked about being lonely but he also talked about being blessed. And how happy he was God had bestowed him with his unique gift.He traveled the world n met the leaders of the world. He was filthy rich and enjoyed a lavish lifestyle. His family and close friends talk about how much fun he was to be around.. That he was a practical joker. What does that say about him? Doesn't sound too gloomy to me. I read somewhere that MJ had received more awards than anyone in history. many of these for his music/dance - something he LOVED doing. How many of us are fortunate enough to get paid for doing what we love? Sure he had sadness, like all of us. All humans have sadness. But there was also joy. If you listen closely to his music, watch the videos you sense his tragedy and sadness. But it's just your interpretation of MJ's life - mine is different. | |
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graecophilos said: bboy87 said: graecophilos, that had to be one of the most ignorant things I've EVER read on this site Oh no, please excuse me. It was meant to be sarcastic. [Racial slur snip - luv4u] is what Mj's brother always told him. I'm aware I was stereotyping afros, and stuff! Excuse me, I love you! Dude, you have to do it differently because the way you type, how the hell can we see the sarcasm? Just say they're not biologically his and move on, you didn't have to do that.  | |
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Timmy84 said: graecophilos said: Oh no, please excuse me. It was meant to be sarcastic. [Racial slur snip - luv4u] is what Mj's brother always told him. I'm aware I was stereotyping afros, and stuff! Excuse me, I love you! Dude, you have to do it differently because the way you type, how the hell can we see the sarcasm? Just say they're not biologically his and move on, you didn't have to do that. Yeah, I apologize. I didn't want to offend my friends. I was hoping, with all that I've said in the past years you would get the "joke", I think I'm not known as a racist in here? I'm not gonna delete my post though, coz it's unbrave | |
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graecophilos said: Timmy84 said: Dude, you have to do it differently because the way you type, how the hell can we see the sarcasm? Just say they're not biologically his and move on, you didn't have to do that. Yeah, I apologize. I didn't want to offend my friends. I was hoping, with all that I've said in the past years you would get the "joke", I think I'm not known as a racist in here? I'm not gonna delete my post though, coz it's unbrave Well it's gonna get snipped anyways but people will see it because they quoted you. I don't think you're racist but I do think your comment was just ignorant and if you were anywhere else, you WILL be called racist, that's just my feeling on it. I hardly say that shit about anybody so why should it be ok for anybody of any race to joke about how we look in terms of racial backgrounds, I don't get that. [Edited 10/24/09 13:20pm] | |
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What in the world is going on in this thread lmao | |
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babybugz said: What in the world is going on in this thread lmao
Craziness. | |
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Timmy84 said: Mike may not have had approximately a billion but the man had fans in the multi-millions so billion is not FAR OFF. You forget we have 6 or 7 billion folks in the world, I'm sure at least 1 billion have a lot of MJ albums and/or merchandise of him, lol
we've got ca. 6,7 billion people. If Mj sold 500 mio albums, 10 of them are MINE. So, even if he sold 1 billion records, it's a save bet that many people have several Mj records. Thriller (I still don't belive it sold 110 mio) sold much because many who had just the LP or MC buyed the CD or digital version later. But no way he is that big in Asia or Africa. Whatever we hear from those countries, the media always just reports about his FANS! Means we're spoiled and can't estimate the real figure of MJ fans in those countries. And what's considered fan anyway? One single? One album= Once conert 30 years ago and the rest was making jokes about him? Fact is, in the last years his active fan circle shrinked from year to year. Now that he's dead it's en vogue to "ADMIT" to be an MJ fan, but people wanna have Thriller-Mike, not Break Of Dawn or 2000-Watts Mike. | |
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