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Kentucky-written by Michael in the mid 70s, possibly 1976 Kentucky Road- recorded by The Jackson 5 for Motown Kick It- written by Michael, Rodney Jerkins, Fred Jerkins, LaShawn Davis, and Norman Gregg for the Invincible album in 1999 Lavender Blue- Recorded August 1969. The Jackson 5’s cover of Disney song by Burl Ives from the 1948 movie, "So Dear To My Heart" Learned My Lesson- written by Michael in 1981 and registered at the US Copyright Office in 1985 Let's Have A Party-unreleased J5 song from 1970-1972 that was later included on the 4th disc of the 1995 compilation "Soulsation" Life-written by R.Kelly that Michael wanted to record for HIStory but Kelly convinced him to record "You Are Not Alone" instead. Was later recorded by K Ci and Jojo for the 1999 movie "Life" Little Girls-written by Michael before 1992 Llama Lola Lonely Heart- unreleased J5 song on the mid 60s. Surfaced in 1989. Believed to be from a demo tape that was recorded in the 2300 Jackson Street home living room or Tito's music teacher Shirley Cartman's living room, who passed the tape to Steeltown Records' Gordon Keith. Cartman later had the tape transferred to a better quality tape, after moving to Atlanta Georgia, to preserve the recordings. Lonely Bird Lonely Man- written by Michael before 1992 Lonely Teardrops- cover of Jackie Wilson's classic. Recorded by Michael in 1972-73 as a favor to Berry Gordy, later surfaced on the 1986 compilation "Looking Back At Yesterday" Love Call- unreleased J5 song that was recorded on October 12, 1971. Circulating among fans Love Feels Like Fire- unreleased J5 cover of Four Tops song Love Go Away- J5 song recorded for Motown. Lyrics appeared in the Winter '84 issue of "Rock And Soul Magazine" Love Never Felt So Good- written by Michael with Paul Anka and Kathy Wakefield and recorded by Johnny Mathis in 1984. Michael’s original demo is circulating amongst fans online Love Scenes- unreleased J5 song that appeared on the 4th disc of Soulsation Love Comes In Flavors Love's Gone Bad- Unreleased solo song recorded for Motown that was recorded 3 different times. One version featured on the 1979 compilation "Boogie" another version featured on the 1986 compilation "Looking Back At Yesterday". Earliest version, from 1972, featured on the 1995 compilation "The Best of Michael Jackson: Anthology" Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever- J5 cover of Four Tops single Lucy Is In Love With Linus- song written by Michael, written possibly around 1978-1980 Lucky Day- possibly the real title to the 1973 unreleased song “Miss Lucky Day”. Released in 2009 on the compilation “I Want You Back!: The Unreleased Masters” Lulu- unreleased J5 song that was featured on the 4th disc of Soulsation Make A Wish- unreleased MJ song. During the 1993 deposition, he couldn't recall if he had written it or not Make Or Break- written by Michael and John Barnes in 1985-1987. Alternate titles are "For God's Sake/Make Or Break" and "Make A Break" Man’s Temptation- unreleased song recorded by The Jackson 5. Produced by Bobby Taylor and recorded in 1969 during recording sessions for “Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5” Maybe We Can Do It- written by Michael, Rodney Jerkins, and P. Diddy for Invincible, but didn't make the cut Men In Black- recorded in 1989 for Decade but then later considered for Dangerous. Included on a rare promo CD "Promo Flight Only" of which 10 copies exist and given to certain Sony executives on the way to Neverland from Europe in 1991 as a teaser from the Dangerous album. Circulating amongst hardcore collectors Michael McKeller- written by Michael, possibly for Bad or Dangerous Miss Lucky Day- J5 song recorded for Motown. A small snippet is circulating among certain fans. Money Honey- unreleased J5 song that was included on the 1995 "Soulsation" compilation Monkey Business- recorded in 1989 for consideration for the Dangerous album. written by Michael and Bill Bottrell and recorded in Record One Studios and Westlake Studios. Was to be included on the 2001 special edition, until Sony pulled the second disc of the release. Surfaced in 2002 on the internet and released in 2004 on the "Ultimate Collection" release Much Too Soon- written by Michael in 1981. Believed by fans to be an early version of "Gone Too Soon" My Favorite Things- J5 cover of the song from The Sound of Music. recorded for the 1970 Christmas Album, but failed to make the album Mystery- written by Rod Temperton for Michael. Michael turned the song down and Anita Baker recorded it instead in 1986. Neither One Of Us (Wants To Say Goodbye)- J5 cover of Gladys Knight and The Pips hit. Neverland Landing- written by Michael before 1993 Nightline- written by Glen Ballard and recorded by Michael for Thriller. Ballard was optimistic after finding out the song wasn't going to be included on Thriller, knowing he'd write for the next album. He would go on to write Man In The Mirror, which he feels is a better song, for the "Bad" album and Keep The Faith for the "Dangerous" album. Later recorded by The Pointer Sisters for the original 1983 edition of "Breakout", but was replaced by "I'm So Excited" on later editions. Also recorded by Ellen Foley and Randy Crawford Never Can Say Goodbye- alternate version of the 1971 Jackson 5 classic Never Can Say Goodbye- the 1989 Adult Version that was recorded for Decade Nightmare of Edgar Allen Poe- song believed to be written by Michael and Walter Afansieff in 1999-2000 for the planned film "The Nightmare of Edgar Allen Poe" No News Is Good News-written by Stevie Wonder for the J5/Steve collaboration album that was planned for 1974 Nona- written by Jackie Jackson. Intended for the Victory album Nymphette Lover- written by Michael in 1981 Oh’ I’ve Been Blessed- Recorded May 19, 1969 during the recording sessions for “Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5”. Finally released on the 1979 compilation “Boogie” Ode To Sorrow- written by Michael in 1977. Possibly one of the classical pieces he wrote in the mid 70s On My Anger- written by Michael and Teddy Riley in 1999 for the Invincible album One Day I'll Marry You- J5 song that was recorded in 1970 that wasn't released until 1979 on the Boogie album Ooh Baby Baby- J5's cover of Smokey Robinson and The Miracle's hit single The Pain- written by Rodney Jerkins, Jay Harvey Mason, and Shawn Stockman for Invincible Penny Arcade- Unreleased Jackson 5 song recorded in 1970-73 that wasn't released until 1979 on the Boogie album People Have To Make Some Kind of Joke- written by Michael possibly between 1985-1993 Peter Pan- written by Michael for the planned movie about the fantasy character that turned out to become the 1993 film "Hook" Planet Earth- spoken poem written by Michael for the Dangerous album but didn't make the tracklisting. Was included in the liner notes as a poem and again in the 1992 book "Dancing The Dream". Released in 2009 on the soundtrack “This Is It” Power- written by Jackie Jackson for the Victory album in around 1983-84 Pressure written by Rodney Jerkins, Lashawn Daniels, Fred Jerkins III, and Jay Harvey Mason for the Invincible album The Price of Fame- written by Michael in 1985-86 for the Bad album. Originally slated to appear in the 1987 "Chase" Pepsi commercials, but due to not making the album, it was replaced by a special version of Bad". The Price of Fame version exists. Purple Snowflakes- J5 cover of Marvin Gaye's holiday song for their 1970's Christmas album P.Y.T.- demo version that was written by Michael and Greg Philliganes in 1982. Quincy Jones felt the song should be an uptempo track and asked artist James Ingram to write a dance oriented version. Quantum Leap- poem written by Michael. Possibly also recorded as a song Quicksand- J5's cover of Martha and The Vandella's hit single Reach Out I’ll Be There- The Jackson 5's coverr of Four Tops hit. Released in 1995 on the compilation "Soulsation" Red Eye- written by Michael. Date Unknown Remember The Time (Original version)- slightly different mix. On the acetate of the Dangerous Special Edition set Rock With You- demo version that was to released on the 2001 Special Edition, but was taken off at the last minute Rolling The Dice- written by Rod Temperton for Thriller [Edited 10/17/09 13:21pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Sad Souvenirs- J5's cover of Four Tops song
Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album Saved By The Bell- written by Michael and Jermaine Scared of The Moon- written by Michael in 1985 for a book project of the same name Scream- solo version. Part of this version was played during the 1996-97 HIStory World Tour The Scrub- written by Tito's music teacher Shirley Cartman and recorded by The Jackson 5 during the Steeltown days Seduction- written by Michael and Shelby Myrick III during 2001-2005 Seeing Voices- written by Michael, Ray Charles and Sidney Fine. Duet of Michael and Ray Charles And the Ray Charles Choir. Intended for the Invincible album Serious Effect- written by Michael and Teddy Riley for the Dangerous album. Featured LL Cool J. Recorded in 1990 Seven Digits- written by Michael and Bryan Loren. One of the 25 songs they worked together on for the Dangerous album. Shake Me, Wake Me, (When It's Over)- J5's cover of the Four Tops hit She Got It- written by Michael for the Dangerous album. Leaked on the internet in 2007. Was planned to be released on the 2001 edition of Dangerous, but was pulled from the set. Certain fans bought the acetate and held on to the songs She Got It, Work That Body, and Lisa, It's Your Birthday for 5 years. One fan bought another copy of the acetate and shared it to the entire fan community (a big F U to those greedy fans!) She Say What- J5 song for Motown She Was Loving Me- written by Michael and Mark Rooney for Invincible She's Not A Girl- written by Michael possibly for Thriller. Demo recorded in the Hayvenhurst family recording studio She’s Out Of My Life- demo recording She's Trouble- written by Terry Britten, Bill Livesy, and Sue Shifrin for Thriller. Michael's version that was recorded in 1981-82 leaked on the internet in the late 90s. Later recorded by Scott Baio for his 1983 album and again by Musical Youth for their "Different Style" album. Their version peaked at #65 on the Pop charts and #25 on the R&B charts Shout (Promo Version)- a slightly longer version of the 2002 B-Side of the “Cry” single Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours- J5's cover of Stevie Wonder's classic hit Silent Night- J5's cover of the traditional holiday song for their 1970 Christmas album Silver Bells- J5's version that was recorded for the 1970 Christmas album Since I Lost My Baby- J5's cover of Temptations' hit single Since You've Been Gone- J5 cover of Four Tops' hit Sister Sue- written by Michael. Date Unknown The Sky Is The Limit- written by Michael and Jermaine from 1981-1984 Slapstick- written by Rod Temperton. The early version of Hot Street Slipped Away- written by Michael and Marlon Jackson for the Triumph album. 2 versions exists Soldier’s Entrance- song recorded in 1999 for the Invincible album Somewhere In Time- written by Michael in 1980 Speed Demon (Early Version)- early recording of the Bad album track. Recorded in 1985 Stand Tall-written by Michael in 1982, possibly for Thriller Stay- written by Michael and Bryan Loren in 1988 for the Dangerous album Still In Love With You- written for the Victory album with Randy on lead Stop The War- written by Michael and Carole Bayer Sager in 1999 Streetwalker- written by Michael and Bill Bottrell in 1986 for Bad. Inspired the demo for Dangerous, recorded 3 years later. Susie- written by Michael in 1978 Take My Heart- another unreleased Steeltown song Thank Heaven- written by Michael in 1998 Thank You For Life- written by Michael in 1976 when he was around 18 years old That- written by Michael in 1998 That Girl- written by Michael, Jackie, Randy, Marlon, and Tito in 1978 for the Destiny album and possibly re-recorded again in 1980 for the Triumph album That Kind Of Lover- written by Michael and Ray Ruffin. No confirmation if Michael ever actually recorded the song That’s How Love Is- unreleased song recorded by The Jackson 5. Recorded in 1969 That’s What Love Is Made Of- cover of the Miracles song. Recorded around The Lady In My Life- The original edit. Originally over 6 minutes, The song was edited to fit the time limits on vinyl. The Toy- written by Michael in 1981 for the Richard Pryor film of the same name There Must Be More To Life Than This- song Michael worked on with the late Freddie Mercury in the summer of 1983 at Hayvenhurst during a 5 to 6 hour recording session. Other songs done during the session were Victory and State Of Shock. Considered for the 1984 album “The Works” but wasn’t released until Freddie’s solo album “Mr. Bad Guy” in 1985 with Freddie on lead vocals instead of Michael. The original demo featuring Michael on vocals and Freddie on the piano circulating amongst fans This Is It- written by Michael in 1980. Later rewritten with Paul Anka in 1983 as “I Never Heard” Throwin’ Your Life Away- written by Michael in 1988 To Make My Father Proud- recorded by Michael on April 11, 1973, 2 days after the release of his third solo LP, “Music and Me”. Remixed and released in May 1984 on the album “Farewell My Summer Love”, and then re-released in it’s original state in 2009 on the compilation “Hello World” To Satisfy You- written by Michael and Bryan Loren between 1989-1990 for Dangerous album. When Bryan found that wasn’t going to be released on the album, He asked Michael if he could record it for his album, “Music From The New World”, using Michael’s original background vocals. Michael’s original version remains unreleased. To Sir With Love- The Jackson 5’s cover of the title song of the Sidney Poitier film. Recorded in 1969 Tomboy- written by Michael in 1985. Recorded for the Bad album but didn’t make the cut. Was submitted to the U.S. Copyright Office/Library of Congress on a tape with 1985 versions of Speed Demon, Dirty Diana, and Smooth Criminal Tragedy of A Cheerleader- written by Michael Twenty Five Miles- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Edwinn Starr hit. Recorded in 1969 but remixed and released in 1987 on the compilation “The Original Soul of Michael Jackson”. The original mix released in 2009 on the compilation “Hello World” Twinkle Twinkle Little Me- Supremes cover The Jackson 5 recorded for their 1970 ‘Christmas Album” Under Your Skin- written by Michael in 1979 Vibrationist- written by Michael in 1998 Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ – Demo Recording. 2 demo recordings circulating amongst fans. One version released in 2009 on the soundtrack for “This Is It” We Are Here To Change The World- written by Michael and John Barnes in 1985 for the 1986 Disney film “Captain EO” We Are The Ones- written by Michael in 1978 We Are The World (Demo)- the solo demo Michael recorded in January 1985 We’ve Had Enough- written by Michael, Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Davis, and Carole Bayer Sager. Featured on the 2004 compilation “The Ultimate Collection” When Babies Smile- written by Michael. Later used as a poem for Michael’s 1992 book, “Dancing The Dream” as “A Baby Smiles”. The song recording remains unreleased Wouldja?- recorded by The Jackson 5 in 1973 What A Lonely Way To Go- written by Michael in 1975 What’s It Gonna Be- written by Michael What’s Your Life- written by Michael and his brother Jermaine What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Jimmy Ruffin hit from 1966 What Does It Take (To Win Your Love)- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Jr. Walker and The All Stars’ hit from 1969 What You Do To Me- written by Michael in 1985, possibly for the Bad album. Revised in 1998 possibly for Invincible When I Come Of Age- written by Hal Davis, Don Fletcher and Weldon Dean Parks specifically for Michael. Recorded in 1972 possibly for the Ben album. Released in 1986 on the compilation, “Looking Back At Yesterday”. Alternate take with different ending and lyrics, is circulating amongst fans Where Did Our Love Go?- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Supremes’ hit from 1964 Where Do I Stand?- written by Marlon Jackson for the Victory album White Christmas- The Jackson 5’s cover of the most successful Christmas song ever. Recorded in 1970 for their “Christmas Album” Who Do You Know? Written by Michael from 1981 Who Is It- written by Michael in 1989 for the Dangerous album. Charted #14 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #6 on the Billboard R&B singles chart. The original version, clocking in over 7 minutes, remains unreleased and is circulating amongst fans Who Is The Girl With Her Hair Down- written by Michael Who’s Lookin’ For A Lover- Recorded in 1971. Released in 1986 on the compilation “Looking Back At Yesterday” Why- The original version. Written by Babyface and recorded for the HIStory album. After his nephews, 3T heard Michael’s version, he gave it to them for the 1995 debut album, “Brotherhood” Why Can’t I Be- written by Michael in 1980. Has a similar chord progressions as “The Girl Is Mine” Why Shy- written by Michael Why Can’t I Be? Written by Michael in 1980 Work That Body- written by Michael and Bryan Loren in 1989 or 1990 Workin’ Day And Night (Demo Recording)- demo of the Off The Wall album track. Recorded in Hayvenhurst with help from siblings Randy and Janet in 1978 Yester-Me, Yester-You, Yesterday- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Stevie Wonder hit. You Ain’t Giving Me What I Want (So I’m Taking It All Back)- Recorded January 8, 1970 and originally titled “Your A B C’s and D’s” Later released on the 1995 compilation, “Soulsation”. You Ain’t Gonna Change Nothin- written by Michael You Are A Liar- written by Michael You Are So Beautiful- written by Michael during his 2005 trial, inspired by the fans’ ongoing support You Can’t Hurry Love- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Supremes’ hit You Not Me- written by Michael in 1979 around the same time he wrote Little Susie, Be Not Always, Lovely One, and In The Life of Chico. The lyrics, about a failing relationship, were used in the Brothers Johnson 1980 track “This Had To Be”, which featured Michael on background vocals You Told Me Your Lovin’- written by Michael in 1979 You Were There- written by Michael and Alan “Buz” Kohan. Performed during the 60th Birthday Celebration for the late Sammy Davis Jr. at the Shrine Auditorium in 1989. Performed one time, and Michael was heard saying afterwards that he’ll never sing the song again because it was now Sammy’s song. You’re Good For Me- song recorded in 1973 by The Jackson 5. Released in 1986 on the compilation “Looking Back At Yesterday” You’re My Everything- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Temptation’s hit. You’re Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me- written by Stevie Wonder during 1973-75 with Jermaine on lead and Stevie, Michael, and Jackie on background vocals. Re-recorded in 1980 for Jermaine’s “Let’s Get Serious”. The original version remains unreleased You’re The Only One- written by Deke Richards, Freddie Perren, and Fonce Mizell and recorded by The Jackson 5 in 1972. You’ve Really Got A Hold On Me- Unreleased Jackson 5 song. Recorded in July 31 and August 2, 1969. Cover of the Miracles’ hit. Later re-recorded in 1973 as a solo song by Michael. The 1969 version was recorded in 1998 on the compilation, “Motown Sings Motown Classics”. 1973 version was remixed and released on the 1984 album “Farewell My Summer Love”, then released in it’s original version in 2009 for the compilation, “Hello World” [Edited 10/17/09 13:18pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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graecophilos said: ViintageJunkiie said: The original "This Is It" was written by Michael alone in 1980. 1983, the song was re-worked with the help of Anka. WHO says it's the reworked version of the original song? The new song's name has always been I Never Heard. That line is even in the chorus.It was written in 1983. They just chose this song because the verses start with This Is It. They probably didn't even hear the other, the real This Is It song. I don't get why some fans think it's a rewrite of the 1980 song. We got fooled by Sony, because This Is It NEVER was called like that. According to U.S Copyright Type of Work: Music Registration Number/Date: PAu000668598/1984-11-16 Title: This is it/Michael Jackson. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music Date of Creation: 1980 Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson. Just because he says "I never heard" in the song doesn't automatically mean that's the name of the song. Many artists have titles for songs that they never even say IN the song (i.e Janet Jacksons "Strawberry Bounce", which is said NOWHERE in the song). The song could have been reworked in 1983 with Anka. Who knows, but all I'm saying is MJ wrote a song called "This Is It" in 1980 and the demo that Sony put out could be the version he worked on with Anka. | |
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Does anyone know about OTW 30? I remember before MJ's death, Sony was in the process of preparing it for release. Has anyone heard anything? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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graecophilos said: lowkey said: the concert shouldnt have even been on the Dr's mind WHILE HIS PATIENT WAS DYING OR JUST DIED, thats bullshit. randy philips is not related to mj and there was nothing he could contribute to the situation.there was no reason for him to be called to the house while the man was lying there dead.something just dont sem right to me, the whole idea of the promoters paying for the artist's personal doctor seems strange to me. Murray was Mj's doc because MJ LIVED for the tour in his final months. Everything Mj did, I'm sure, he had to get Phlipp's permission. You're just a conpiracionalist. if mj had to get randy philip's permission for everything he did then his life was really sad and it makes what latoya said about him being controlled a reality.you're saying that everytime an artist goes on tour the promoter of the tour controls their life? however you wanna spin it randy philip's presence at mj's house during the time he died is strange. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: graecophilos said: WHO says it's the reworked version of the original song? The new song's name has always been I Never Heard. That line is even in the chorus.It was written in 1983. They just chose this song because the verses start with This Is It. They probably didn't even hear the other, the real This Is It song. I don't get why some fans think it's a rewrite of the 1980 song. We got fooled by Sony, because This Is It NEVER was called like that. According to U.S Copyright Type of Work: Music Registration Number/Date: PAu000668598/1984-11-16 Title: This is it/Michael Jackson. Description: 1 sound cassette. Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music Date of Creation: 1980 Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson. Just because he says "I never heard" in the song doesn't automatically mean that's the name of the song. Many artists have titles for songs that they never even say IN the song (i.e Janet Jacksons "Strawberry Bounce", which is said NOWHERE in the song). The song could have been reworked in 1983 with Anka. Who knows, but all I'm saying is MJ wrote a song called "This Is It" in 1980 and the demo that Sony put out could be the version he worked on with Anka. I still don't think there's a connection to both songs. This is it is a common line, I see no connection. Anka himself said last week the song's name was I Never Heard. And that's the name of the song for almost 20 years now (1991) Now Sony renamed it. What I wanna say is: There's NO prove that This Is It (unreleased 1980 song) has ANY connection to I Never Hears aka This Is It. There is no prove I am right as well, but remember this: there's no prove that Bad and Men In Black sounded alike in their first incarnation  | |
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mimi07 said: mynameisnotsusan said: As a complete aside, I've never seen this clip before where you can see him curse.
dang janet is angry too yea i seen this before too. he's like don't mess with my mother. | |
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Yeah Jay I love your list, but I find it quite vague:
From where do you know A Baby Smiles is from 1979 and not from 1981? Was Al Capone written for BAD or intended for the Victory album? "Got To Find A Way Somehow- written by Michael in 1979 and possibly for Off The Wall or Triumph " ain't there such a song on one of the first two Jacksons albums? At least there's a song that features that line. Do you really think MJ wrote a song with the same name one year later? | |
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blackguitaristz said: mimi07 said:
 There's my girl, Orianthi Panagaris, looking cute as always.[/quote] that's my girl too i posted a video of her playing on one of these MJ threads. i think this is the one I posted before | |
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daPrettyman said: Does anyone know about OTW 30? I remember before MJ's death, Sony was in the process of preparing it for release. Has anyone heard anything?
After MJ died it was stated that he had many unheard of tracks from albums from the much talked about "vault." Some of those tracks include music from OTW (which is my most favorite album). I hope this is true. I can't wait to hear OTW 30.  | |
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and can someone explain to me why there was such a deposition? Who had the list of unreleased songs?
What did MJ have to prove? | |
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Layzie said: daPrettyman said: Does anyone know about OTW 30? I remember before MJ's death, Sony was in the process of preparing it for release. Has anyone heard anything?
After MJ died it was stated that he had many unheard of tracks from albums from the much talked about "vault." Some of those tracks include music from OTW (which is my most favorite album). I hope this is true. I can't wait to hear OTW 30. can't wait. | |
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Much Too Soon- written by Michael in 1981. Believed by fans to be an early version of "Gone Too Soon"
another strange conclusion. The songs are ten years apart plus Gone Too Soon was not written by MJ. | |
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Dont mean to spoil the topic but i found this pic today and am i crazy for finding it disturbing.
http://www.rollingstone.c...n/photo/41 [Edited 10/17/09 17:10pm] | |
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PatrickS77 said: Superstition said: I also find it odd that many MJ fans seem to be absolving MJ of being an addict. I don't know why people want to tiptoe around the issue or try to call it a dependency or sugar coat it or whatever. To do so mitigates a valuable lesson and is just plain wrong in my opinion. This man had a problem, one which I don't think anyone could blame him for having seeing as the amount of pressure people put him under. But it doesn't change the fact he clearly had a problem. What other excuse is there for a hired, personal physician visiting in his home and using IV drips and things of that nature?
Well, probably because he didn't take drugs to get high, but because he took medication, given to him by a doctor and under his supervision, to take care of a problem! Of course that doesn't absolve anyone, but at least the doctor, if Michael himself didn't know, should have known better and not gone down that path of treatment! Who cares why he took the drugs? This could be a reason why the man is dead. He didn't take them to get high so it's okay? If Murray didn't administer these drugs to Jackson, then Jackson would have fired him and found another personal physician to give him this stuff. Until someone had the balls to not care about getting fire and stand up to MJ, this was always going to be the end result, it was just a matter of when. But ultimately, someone has to want help before receiving help. | |
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Nirvana on media and Michael Jackson
starts around 7:10 minutes. | |
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Superstition said: PatrickS77 said: Well, probably because he didn't take drugs to get high, but because he took medication, given to him by a doctor and under his supervision, to take care of a problem! Of course that doesn't absolve anyone, but at least the doctor, if Michael himself didn't know, should have known better and not gone down that path of treatment! Who cares why he took the drugs? This could be a reason why the man is dead. He didn't take them to get high so it's okay? If Murray didn't administer these drugs to Jackson, then Jackson would have fired him and found another personal physician to give him this stuff. Until someone had the balls to not care about getting fire and stand up to MJ, this was always going to be the end result, it was just a matter of when. But ultimately, someone has to want help before receiving help. Well, the fans, who are "absolving" him from being a drug addict (well, it's not even established whether he really was addicted, so I should say drug, or more specifially, medication user) obviously do care why he took medication! And the reasoning, if that doc wouldn't have given him the medication another one would have, is true, but it is also the reason why occurencies like these never stop... when even docs think like that and forget about their ethics, then things like that will never stop! And Michael obviously wanted help... he got a doctor to help him with whatever problem he had! | |
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mimi07 said:    Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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kellistarr120 said: mimi07 said:  Marlon sure had his cute moments! Am i seeing that right? They have it written that Michael was born in 1960.  Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: kellistarr120 said: Marlon sure had his cute moments! Am i seeing that right? They have it written that Michael was born in 1960. Remember the Motown PR had MJ's age two years younger.  Look at Marlon, he's also two years younger than he was. | |
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bboy87 said: Sad Souvenirs- J5's cover of Four Tops song
Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album Saved By The Bell- written by Michael and Jermaine Scared of The Moon- written by Michael in 1985 for a book project of the same name Scream- solo version. Part of this version was played during the 1996-97 HIStory World Tour The Scrub- written by Tito's music teacher Shirley Cartman and recorded by The Jackson 5 during the Steeltown days Seduction- written by Michael and Shelby Myrick III during 2001-2005 Seeing Voices- written by Michael, Ray Charles and Sidney Fine. Duet of Michael and Ray Charles And the Ray Charles Choir. Intended for the Invincible album Serious Effect- written by Michael and Teddy Riley for the Dangerous album. Featured LL Cool J. Recorded in 1990 Seven Digits- written by Michael and Bryan Loren. One of the 25 songs they worked together on for the Dangerous album. Shake Me, Wake Me, (When It's Over)- J5's cover of the Four Tops hit She Got It- written by Michael for the Dangerous album. Leaked on the internet in 2007. Was planned to be released on the 2001 edition of Dangerous, but was pulled from the set. Certain fans bought the acetate and held on to the songs She Got It, Work That Body, and Lisa, It's Your Birthday for 5 years. One fan bought another copy of the acetate and shared it to the entire fan community (a big F U to those greedy fans!) She Say What- J5 song for Motown She Was Loving Me- written by Michael and Mark Rooney for Invincible She's Not A Girl- written by Michael possibly for Thriller. Demo recorded in the Hayvenhurst family recording studio She’s Out Of My Life- demo recording She's Trouble- written by Terry Britten, Bill Livesy, and Sue Shifrin for Thriller. Michael's version that was recorded in 1981-82 leaked on the internet in the late 90s. Later recorded by Scott Baio for his 1983 album and again by Musical Youth for their "Different Style" album. Their version peaked at #65 on the Pop charts and #25 on the R&B charts Shout (Promo Version)- a slightly longer version of the 2002 B-Side of the “Cry” single Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours- J5's cover of Stevie Wonder's classic hit Silent Night- J5's cover of the traditional holiday song for their 1970 Christmas album Silver Bells- J5's version that was recorded for the 1970 Christmas album Since I Lost My Baby- J5's cover of Temptations' hit single Since You've Been Gone- J5 cover of Four Tops' hit Sister Sue- written by Michael. Date Unknown The Sky Is The Limit- written by Michael and Jermaine from 1981-1984 Slapstick- written by Rod Temperton. The early version of Hot Street Slipped Away- written by Michael and Marlon Jackson for the Triumph album. 2 versions exists Soldier’s Entrance- song recorded in 1999 for the Invincible album Somewhere In Time- written by Michael in 1980 Speed Demon (Early Version)- early recording of the Bad album track. Recorded in 1985 Stand Tall-written by Michael in 1982, possibly for Thriller Stay- written by Michael and Bryan Loren in 1988 for the Dangerous album Still In Love With You- written for the Victory album with Randy on lead Stop The War- written by Michael and Carole Bayer Sager in 1999 Streetwalker- written by Michael and Bill Bottrell in 1986 for Bad. Inspired the demo for Dangerous, recorded 3 years later. Susie- written by Michael in 1978 Take My Heart- another unreleased Steeltown song Thank Heaven- written by Michael in 1998 Thank You For Life- written by Michael in 1976 when he was around 18 years old That- written by Michael in 1998 That Girl- written by Michael, Jackie, Randy, Marlon, and Tito in 1978 for the Destiny album and possibly re-recorded again in 1980 for the Triumph album That Kind Of Lover- written by Michael and Ray Ruffin. No confirmation if Michael ever actually recorded the song That’s How Love Is- unreleased song recorded by The Jackson 5. Recorded in 1969 That’s What Love Is Made Of- cover of the Miracles song. Recorded around The Lady In My Life- The original edit. Originally over 6 minutes, The song was edited to fit the time limits on vinyl. The Toy- written by Michael in 1981 for the Richard Pryor film of the same name There Must Be More To Life Than This- song Michael worked on with the late Freddie Mercury in the summer of 1983 at Hayvenhurst during a 5 to 6 hour recording session. Other songs done during the session were Victory and State Of Shock. Considered for the 1984 album “The Works” but wasn’t released until Freddie’s solo album “Mr. Bad Guy” in 1985 with Freddie on lead vocals instead of Michael. The original demo featuring Michael on vocals and Freddie on the piano circulating amongst fans This Is It- written by Michael in 1980. Later rewritten with Paul Anka in 1983 as “I Never Heard” Throwin’ Your Life Away- written by Michael in 1988 To Make My Father Proud- recorded by Michael on April 11, 1973, 2 days after the release of his third solo LP, “Music and Me”. Remixed and released in May 1984 on the album “Farewell My Summer Love”, and then re-released in it’s original state in 2009 on the compilation “Hello World” To Satisfy You- written by Michael and Bryan Loren between 1989-1990 for Dangerous album. When Bryan found that wasn’t going to be released on the album, He asked Michael if he could record it for his album, “Music From The New World”, using Michael’s original background vocals. Michael’s original version remains unreleased. To Sir With Love- The Jackson 5’s cover of the title song of the Sidney Poitier film. Recorded in 1969 Tomboy- written by Michael in 1985. Recorded for the Bad album but didn’t make the cut. Was submitted to the U.S. Copyright Office/Library of Congress on a tape with 1985 versions of Speed Demon, Dirty Diana, and Smooth Criminal Tragedy of A Cheerleader- written by Michael Twenty Five Miles- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Edwinn Starr hit. Recorded in 1969 but remixed and released in 1987 on the compilation “The Original Soul of Michael Jackson”. The original mix released in 2009 on the compilation “Hello World” Twinkle Twinkle Little Me- Supremes cover The Jackson 5 recorded for their 1970 ‘Christmas Album” Under Your Skin- written by Michael in 1979 Vibrationist- written by Michael in 1998 Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ – Demo Recording. 2 demo recordings circulating amongst fans. One version released in 2009 on the soundtrack for “This Is It” We Are Here To Change The World- written by Michael and John Barnes in 1985 for the 1986 Disney film “Captain EO” We Are The Ones- written by Michael in 1978 We Are The World (Demo)- the solo demo Michael recorded in January 1985 We’ve Had Enough- written by Michael, Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Davis, and Carole Bayer Sager. Featured on the 2004 compilation “The Ultimate Collection” When Babies Smile- written by Michael. Later used as a poem for Michael’s 1992 book, “Dancing The Dream” as “A Baby Smiles”. The song recording remains unreleased Wouldja?- recorded by The Jackson 5 in 1973 What A Lonely Way To Go- written by Michael in 1975 What’s It Gonna Be- written by Michael What’s Your Life- written by Michael and his brother Jermaine What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Jimmy Ruffin hit from 1966 What Does It Take (To Win Your Love)- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Jr. Walker and The All Stars’ hit from 1969 What You Do To Me- written by Michael in 1985, possibly for the Bad album. Revised in 1998 possibly for Invincible When I Come Of Age- written by Hal Davis, Don Fletcher and Weldon Dean Parks specifically for Michael. Recorded in 1972 possibly for the Ben album. Released in 1986 on the compilation, “Looking Back At Yesterday”. Alternate take with different ending and lyrics, is circulating amongst fans Where Did Our Love Go?- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Supremes’ hit from 1964 Where Do I Stand?- written by Marlon Jackson for the Victory album White Christmas- The Jackson 5’s cover of the most successful Christmas song ever. Recorded in 1970 for their “Christmas Album” Who Do You Know? Written by Michael from 1981 Who Is It- written by Michael in 1989 for the Dangerous album. Charted #14 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #6 on the Billboard R&B singles chart. The original version, clocking in over 7 minutes, remains unreleased and is circulating amongst fans Who Is The Girl With Her Hair Down- written by Michael Who’s Lookin’ For A Lover- Recorded in 1971. Released in 1986 on the compilation “Looking Back At Yesterday” Why- The original version. Written by Babyface and recorded for the HIStory album. After his nephews, 3T heard Michael’s version, he gave it to them for the 1995 debut album, “Brotherhood” Why Can’t I Be- written by Michael in 1980. Has a similar chord progressions as “The Girl Is Mine” Why Shy- written by Michael Why Can’t I Be? Written by Michael in 1980 Work That Body- written by Michael and Bryan Loren in 1989 or 1990 Workin’ Day And Night (Demo Recording)- demo of the Off The Wall album track. Recorded in Hayvenhurst with help from siblings Randy and Janet in 1978 Yester-Me, Yester-You, Yesterday- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Stevie Wonder hit. You Ain’t Giving Me What I Want (So I’m Taking It All Back)- Recorded January 8, 1970 and originally titled “Your A B C’s and D’s” Later released on the 1995 compilation, “Soulsation”. You Ain’t Gonna Change Nothin- written by Michael You Are A Liar- written by Michael You Are So Beautiful- written by Michael during his 2005 trial, inspired by the fans’ ongoing support You Can’t Hurry Love- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Supremes’ hit You Not Me- written by Michael in 1979 around the same time he wrote Little Susie, Be Not Always, Lovely One, and In The Life of Chico. The lyrics, about a failing relationship, were used in the Brothers Johnson 1980 track “This Had To Be”, which featured Michael on background vocals You Told Me Your Lovin’- written by Michael in 1979 You Were There- written by Michael and Alan “Buz” Kohan. Performed during the 60th Birthday Celebration for the late Sammy Davis Jr. at the Shrine Auditorium in 1989. Performed one time, and Michael was heard saying afterwards that he’ll never sing the song again because it was now Sammy’s song. You’re Good For Me- song recorded in 1973 by The Jackson 5. Released in 1986 on the compilation “Looking Back At Yesterday” You’re My Everything- The Jackson 5’s cover of the Temptation’s hit. You’re Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me- written by Stevie Wonder during 1973-75 with Jermaine on lead and Stevie, Michael, and Jackie on background vocals. Re-recorded in 1980 for Jermaine’s “Let’s Get Serious”. The original version remains unreleased You’re The Only One- written by Deke Richards, Freddie Perren, and Fonce Mizell and recorded by The Jackson 5 in 1972. You’ve Really Got A Hold On Me- Unreleased Jackson 5 song. Recorded in July 31 and August 2, 1969. Cover of the Miracles’ hit. Later re-recorded in 1973 as a solo song by Michael. The 1969 version was recorded in 1998 on the compilation, “Motown Sings Motown Classics”. 1973 version was remixed and released on the 1984 album “Farewell My Summer Love”, then released in it’s original version in 2009 for the compilation, “Hello World” [Edited 10/17/09 13:18pm]  holy shit! 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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: Am i seeing that right? They have it written that Michael was born in 1960. Remember the Motown PR had MJ's age two years younger. Look at Marlon, he's also two years younger than he was. Oh yeah! but isn't that Jackie in the middle?Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Timmy84 said: Remember the Motown PR had MJ's age two years younger. Look at Marlon, he's also two years younger than he was. Oh yeah! but isn't that Jackie in the middle?Sigmund? Yep, lol | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: Oh yeah! but isn't that Jackie in the middle?Sigmund? Yep, lol So is that a mistake or his real name Sigmund?  Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: mimi07 said: *Still waiting for this to be confirmed as a joke*    *R.I.P MJ*...*And Thank You SO Much!* | |
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Shiningstarr26 said: EmeraldSkies said: *Still waiting for this to be confirmed as a joke* I hope so! Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Timmy84 said: Sigmund? Yep, lol So is that a mistake or his real name Sigmund? Nope, that's his real name. He was born Sigmund Esco Jackson. He's only called "Jackie" because it was short for "Jackson Boy", his original nickname. | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: So is that a mistake or his real name Sigmund? Nope, that's his real name. He was born Sigmund Esco Jackson. He's only called "Jackie" because it was short for "Jackson Boy", his original nickname. i thought he got his nick name because he played baseball and they called him the next Jackie Robinson. He even turned down a pro contract for his show biz career LOVE HARD. | |
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Superstition said: It was a drug overdose. Simple as. You don't' have to be on your deathbed for an overdose to kill you. That's why drugs are so dangerous. People seem to have this notion that MJ was being worn down, worn down, worn down and then finally this last bit of drugs killed him. I doubt that's what happened. Most likely he was fine (outside of his addiction or sleep problems) and the overdose killed him.
Otherwise healthy people die everyday from overdose. It's a sad issue. Yep and the doctor not caring about the well being of his Patient(caring about the money) got his ass in trouble. | |
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graecophilos said: Yeah Jay I love your list, but I find it quite vague:
From where do you know A Baby Smiles is from 1979 and not from 1981? Was Al Capone written for BAD or intended for the Victory album? "Got To Find A Way Somehow- written by Michael in 1979 and possibly for Off The Wall or Triumph " ain't there such a song on one of the first two Jacksons albums? At least there's a song that features that line. Do you really think MJ wrote a song with the same name one year later? There's a list notebook from 1979 that Michael used while he was on the Destiny Tour and during the Off The Wall recording sessions where he had the original handwriten lyrics of Little Susie, A Baby Smiles, In The Life Of Chico, The Invisible Man (another one I forgot to include on the list), Be Not Always, You Not Me, Lovely One, and A Baby Smiles. The notebook also features rough draft letters he sent to CBS execs and concert promoters like Leonard Rowe on Got To Find A Way Somehow....no but the line "Gotta find a way somehow" is in the chorus of "Even Though You're Gone" on the Goin' Places, but it was written by Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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