voyevoda said:

You've been sayin' some real questionable shit lately

bboy87 said:

I'm just saying...a wonderful father would have taken better care of himself, especially for his kids. It's not a diss or anything man.
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voyevoda said:

but a wonderful father would've also been attentive to his kids, spent time with them, show them love and teach them how to behave



which is what Michael did

voyevoda said:

there's no proof he was a drug addict at the time of his death. people who were close to him have nothing but good to say about michael with his kids
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I'm not saying he was a horrible father. I'm just saying he should have taken care of himself, atleast for his kids. Just a little pissed off how it all ended I guess:(.
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voyevoda said:

Lot of parents don't take proper care of themselves. Just look at the obesity and smoking rates. Granted thats not as hardcore as drugs, but its still likely to lead to an early grave.

madonna on michael in the new rolling stones issue


Do you cry often onstage?
[On the Sticky & Sweet Tour] there's a moment right before I sing "You Must Love Me," which is such a sad song, when I'm not linked up to time-coded video, when I take a moment to talk to the audience. On this leg of the tour, I cried when I was making a speech about the two men who worked for the scaffolding company that were building my stage in Marseilles [who died in a collapse]. I cried when I found out Michael Jackson had died.

You and Michael were born in the same month, August of 1958. What was it like to witness a kid your age do what he did?
I was madly in love with him, totally smitten. He was mind-bogglingly talented. The songs he sang were not childlike at all.

When did you first meet him?
I met him in the early Eighties, when I first started working with my manager, Freddy DeMann, who at the time was managing Michael Jackson. I saw him play at Madison Square Garden, and I was blown away. He was flawless. There was a party at the Helmsley Palace Hotel. He was very shy, but it was a thrill for me.

Were you jealous of him?
In a good way. I'd wished I'd written "Billie Jean" and "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'." What song didn't I love?

Ten years later there was talk of you recording together, and you went to the Oscars with him.
There was a period of time when we hung out. He wanted to work with me, I think he wanted to get to know me, and I wanted to do the same. When you write with somebody, it's a weird experience, you feel vulnerable and shy. When I worked with Justin Timberlake I felt that way. To write songs together is a very intimate experience, like getting tossed into a juggernaut. "On your mark, get set, create!" You have to get past these hurdles, which are, "I want to impress this person, but will they think my ideas are stupid? What if their ideas are stupid? Can I be honest with them? Will they be offended?" You end up talking and gabbing and socializing, and you have to do that in order to get to the next level, to be creative. So that's what we were doing: watching movies, having dinner, hanging out, going to the Oscars, being silly, seeing if we could work. He got relaxed. He took off his sunglasses, had a glass of wine, I got him to laugh.

You're the only other entertainer in the world who can relate to enduring that level of scrutiny. Why did it destroy him?
All I have are my opinions, I wasn't very close to him. It's good to have a good childhood and a sense of yourself in the world before people start telling you who they think your are. Where you can make mistakes and have a sense of innocence. It gives you a sense of confidence. I don't think he started off that way. Did he have any sense of himself outside of the world of being adored and famous? It's hard to survive like that. I think he felt insecure about the attention he got, and had a love-hate relationship with his job. He didn't seem to have any close friends. And in the last decade, everybody abandoned him, or wrote him off as crazy. People have said so many things about me that aren't true, and I never once had a second thought that the accusations against him might be true. But he didn't seem to have a way to deal with that, publicly or privately, and it can destroy you. When he died, everyone was saying what a great genius he was, but it's important to appreciate things before you lose them. It's a great tragedy.
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Mike was no drug addict.

Timmy84 said:

excatly.

mimi07 said:

Have I stated that I'm going to marry this girl and that she's going to have my children?

Timmy84 said:

Co-sign!

I think when you get to a point you have to go to rehab there is a problem there but let me shut up I will keep my Opinions to myself on this matter.

babybugz said:

Back in 1993? That was what 16 years ago, that ain't the same, lol

Timmy84 said:

Not really that , the video that leak out he did back in 07. I personally saw him as someone at different points in his life that did have a problem do I feel he was still using in his final months no but I think some fans are really sugarcoating it like he never had a problem that's all.

babybugz said:

Oh he had problems but I think they've been overexaggerated.

The Los Angeles Police Department have described MJ as a drug 'addict'. And given the preponderance of drugs found at Neverland in 2003 and at his place of death, how could anyone say differently?
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Copycat said:

I just guess the way they've described it, you expect more shit in the boy's system. Just saying.
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What was he then, an unlicensed pharmarcy tech?

Copycat said:

No, lol

Copycat said:

MJ was on a lot of drugs during that trial period, im not denying that. Show me the article where they say this tho.

Timmy84 said:

right. Funny how the media is awfully quiet about his cause of death right now.

a certain person is saying things about mike , and your giving attention to that person. just ignore it , there is nothing more frustrating you can do than ignore such comments we know better than that

MJ stickers!

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ADORABLE

sounds lke someone faded the backgrounds not a demo?
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BED HEAD!