SoulAlive said:

Did you know that Michael got props from Leonard Bernstein. He said that Michael was musical in every sense of the word

bboy87 said:

On the ORG only I hear that Mjs is just "POP artist" , Don't take those comments seriously, The man's works speak for themselves.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

There was a vid for Goin Places?

paisleypark4 said:

bboy87 said:

I didn´t know that. Thanks.

Umm a 6.

bboy87 said:

you are right

my best friend studied in london's vocal tech school. and they always study his vocals...and in composition and production classes MJ's work is always referenced.

but that's not even the point...I dont think Michael wanted to write lyrics that would need to be dissected and analayzed. he wanted the whole world to sing ''it dont matter if you're black or white'' and he did

Graycap23 said:

I can honestly say that music videos reduced the quality of great music being made in pop music, where once music was made for radio. Pleasing the eyes rather than the ears. Most of the artist who came up in the MTV generation wouldn't be anywhere without the help of the music video. The majority of pop tart, hip-hop "artist" that came out in the 90s and 00s wouldn't be nothing without music video, IMO. As far as MJ is concerned, MJ didn't need music video, music video needed MJ, he was a dynamic performer, be it videos, movies, stage, tv shows, etc. His music holds up, the problem is that he started making music for mainly the screen instead of the radio.

bboy87 said:

obviously it'll be studied, it's some of the most successful music of all time. But it will be studied from more of a pop approach, not for any particularly innovative chord sequences or melodies that changed music.

Production, maybe, but then Michael worked with the best.

bboy87 said:

What it look like?

I listen to his albums way more than I watch his videos. So, pretty darn high.

LightOfArt said:

However he ended up doing just that.. songs like Wanna Be Startin Something, Tabloid Junkie, DS, Money, Jam, Keep The Faith, Little Suzie, made you think about what made him write the song...he was a pop artist yes, but no one really looked in2 his songwriting capabilities. Everyone was too concerned about Thriller and the videos to be concerned about asking the lyrical content of the tunes.

I told my brothers
Dont u ask me for no favor
Im conditioned by the system
Dont you talk to me, dont scream and shout


Who's the next for you to resurrect?
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told, grassy knoll
It's the headline sotry for all your glory


Lord I can go on and on and on

Graycap23 said:

[b]
I find that really hard to believe from someone who loves soul and r&b as much as you. I refuse to believe you mean that statement. The MJ coverage must be getting to you.

NDRU said:

That and the songwriting. Some of the songs will definitely be analyzed and discussed if it hasn't already.
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funksterr said:

Once I got past a certain point, the music got real boring. It's all good though. There was a reason why I had 2 track down those cd's. The stuff prior to 1984 is great, afterwards.....no so much.

Graycap23 said:

Better yet, where would you rank him as a performer without the pyrotechnics, 50 dancers and video screens on-stage?

NDRU said:

That was his best album ever. He didn't need video's then, but he changed, even the way he sang after that.

High.

I dance and sing to Dangerous (my fave MJ album) w/o envisioning the Videos.

Look how Off the Wall stands up w/o the videos.

The music holds it's own.

Timmy84 said:

Yes it did. But that song is soo soft and smooth, it just OWNS the video!

jamgirl said:

you have great taste

dseann said:

Mj is a great dancer from a visual standpoint. I'd rank him number 1.
Musically, I would rank him in my top 100 to 150.

LightOfArt said:

Thanks. All the hype around Thriller still doesn't faze me.

Dangerous and a little Bad I think is the truly MICHAEL JACKSON work.

Dangerous just kills.

Graycap23 said:

Him, Quincy Jones, Teddy Riley, R. Kelly or what?

dseann said:

Mj's music doesn't move me in any particular way. I dig it, but I would NEVER and have never pulled out one of his cd's when they weren't just released and jammed 2 one. Pulling out his music lately was a natuarl reaction 2 his passing.

Loved the live concerts but was a rare thing.

Graycap23 said:

I have a certain play list of his on my i-pod and that's basically what I've listened to over the last few years. What I like from his isn't really dance music. It's the more laid back songs of his. I hear what you're saying though. My play list hasn't changed because he croaked.

Timmy84 said:

me too i think he's still great without the music videos

Graycap23 said:

you obviously don't know fuck about music then do you?
does it hold up well?
of course it does.

100s of millions of people say so, so stop trying to fucking start another bullshit thread!

dirtyman2005 said:

Your response says quite a bit more about u than me.

paisleypark4 said:

I was listening to his music years before he went video crazy and it was great. I will admit though, his music became weaker after he started trying to make serious videos but the videos themselves didn't make the music weaker, him trying to please the pop crowd did.