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PART TWO: http://prince.org/msg/8/312273

PART THREE: http://prince.org/msg/8/312547?&pg=1

PART FOUR: http://prince.org/msg/8/312814

PART FIVE: http://prince.org/msg/8/313062

PART SIX: http://prince.org/msg/8/313129

PART SEVEN: http://prince.org/msg/8/313283

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Damn I really hope a Jackson sibling steps up to take care of these kids. The thought of Joe or Katherine raising these kids makes my stomach sick
[Edited 7/14/09 8:01am]

Of course it's only "critical" to put such a "candid" photo of Michael Jackson on the cover. Unfortunately, if you pick up the magazine in your hands you should notice that they've also applied heavy sharpening filter effects on this picture, so you cannot claim that it would be realistic either.

Apparently Q was going to use that photo for the cover anyway even before the news of Jackson's death reached them. But yeah, pretty ridiculous if you look it upfront at the newsagent.

Arnotts said:

joe is an old man, he appears to be a peripheral figure in the lives of his children at this point. i don't know why anyone thinks he has any influence. he's out giving interviews, he's not with the kids.

katherine is also up there in age, but the children appear to be close to her.

the odds on either one of them surviving another six years is remote (prince will be of legal age then), and i'm sure that there have been many discussions about who will be co-parenting the kids with katherine now. they should be anyway, because if katherine dies in the next few years there should be a smooth transition for the kids. even though people have dismissed the idea, diana ross did say in the statement made at the memorial that she would be there if needed. her kids turned out well; we shouldn't overlook her as a possible guardian or mentor.

About Michael's sexuality.

Micheal's public image was such a mass of contradiction that he had a love/hate relationship with nearly every group. He never committed to an identity, he was trans-everything. Any man that looked like him though would be considered transgendered of some sort. Reading sites like the advocate it's obvious the topic of MJ's sexuality makes many uncomfortable, there's an attitude of "we don't want him", of course for fear of linking homosexuality with pedophilia. Anyone who would be believe that there is a link is such a homophobe that it's makes no sense to even worry about changing their minds. Sexual offenders can be of any orientation.

and there's some of you fans who don't want to admit the man was anything but straight. Liberace anyone.

Mike's behavior made so many uncomfortable, especially his sexuality.

Arnotts said:

I really honestly don't think that either of them wants Joe involved when it comes to raising MJ's kids.

Mozfunky---And oh yes, I've just read that Michael Baden said they may have kept his brain to try to see if his "strange behavior" may have had a psychological cause, something I suspected but knew the inside authorities wouldn't cop to. They made some B.S. up about the brain hardening to reveal more drug information(which may also be true). But knowing how those people are, I presumed they wanted to study and document every shred of info on the mind of a genius/deviant/drug addict or whatever they may have thought he was.



kept his brain to try to see if his "strange behavior" may have had a psychological cause, something I suspected but knew the inside authorities wouldn't cop to. When a doctor was questioned about that on
Nancy Grace he couldn't explain why they kept part of his brain. His reason's didn't add up either. They are studying Michael like he was some kind of alien.

lilgish said:

Nobody wants to come out and say that
Michael Jackson could have been gay!
Fans would rather be pistol- whipped than
to say Michael was gay or even bi. It's not a bad
thing "It is what it is"!

strange question-- i'm listening to Dangerous right now..and i can't help but notice how much deeper mj's singing/speaking voice is on this cd compared to his "interview" speaking voice

CNN is reporting that Debbie Rowe's lawyer is saying that the reports of her reaching a 4 million dollar settlement with Katherine Jackson is "completely false". Of course, this would be the same attorney that was saying a couple of weeks ago that she wasn't going to pursue custody in the first place, so take that with a grain of salt also.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/S....children/

Debbie Rowe's lawyer: No deal in Jackson case

By Alan Duke
CNN

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- No deal has been reached between Michael Jackson's mother and his ex-wife over the custody of the late singer's children, according to a lawyer in the case.

Eric George, who represents Debbie Rowe, the biological mother of Jackson's two oldest children, said a newspaper report that Rowe had agreed to take $4 million not to challenge Katherine Jackson for custody was "completely false."

Jackson's lawyer did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday.

The Jackson family lawyer said last week that they were working to "privately and amicably resolve" the matter.

A child custody court hearing, which had been set for this week, was delayed until next Monday at the request of lawyers for Jackson and Rowe, a court official said.

Katherine Jackson gained temporary guardianship of the children soon after her son's death last month.

Rowe's lawyer said two weeks ago that "Debbie has not reached a final decision concerning the pending custody proceedings."

The New York Post, quoting an unidentified Jackson family source, reported Rowe had agreed to drop any custody challenge for a $4

why would you want custody of two people in whose lives you've never been a part? why even bring it up in the first place? this b.s. about joe? yeah, not exactly everyone's cup of tea on the face of it, but unless she has some compelling evidence that he's a part of the kids lives or even if he is, that he's exerting some negative influence, she can't get custody based on a 'perceived, media-hyped danger'.

one of her so-called friends just released e-mails on her, and admits that money is part of the equation.

why would the courts allow such a thing? how did they allow it in 2005? she claimed she was looking out for the kids interests because of a fear of the nation of islam's influence; but when money was waved in her face, she walked away and mj kept his noi security. how could the courts blatantly allow the monetary bargaining here?

Fury said:

Chris Tucker said that soft voice Michael spoke in was only for the public. He spoke with a much deeper voice.
[Edited 7/14/09 10:59am]

Countthedays said:

it's too late now anyway. we'll never know.

Chic35 said:

everybody speaks with different voices all the time. depends on who youre talking to.
Whenever I'm with authorities my voice tend sto get higher, when I'm with friends I try to sound tougher.

And the casual voice doesn't necessarily fit with the singing voice.

Countthedays said:

I have no problem believing he was Bi-sexual.

whatsgoingon said:

Me either, don't matter to me anyway, if he was, cool, lol.

lilgish said:

just let it go....the man is dead. None of us knew him personally. I can't stand some people on this org that go on and on about him and how he was...when they never knew the man personally and never tried to look at the bigger picture. His sister Latoya said it best, he's very misunderstood. There have been tons of people who have met him and been friends with him and have said that he is nothing like what the media tries to make him out as. They say he's a great person. Remember the media puts out things and manipulates things to make the public believe how they want the public to believe.

lilgish said:

I've always thought that MJ never had a sexual "desire"
Not in the way when you see someone or like someone and you think OMG, and you'd like to have sex with that person. When that person turns you ON and you have physical reactions... You know what I mean.

I think the word SEX does not go well with MJ's name on the same line.
That's why I couldn't think he was gay or bi or even straight.

I believe the only time he thought about SEX (thought, as a concept) was when he had the need to have children (either if he gave his sperm or not).
But in general people have children because they have had sex before.
I think he skipped all that part.

Of course I don't know, but even in his videos I never saw something sexual that was not "for the video".
And don't start quoting parts of his videos because it's just not there.
The man didn't seem to have any interest in SEX. I'm not referring to in women or men, but in SEX.
That's what IMO, made him so weird for some of us.

we LOVE sex, you know.

Anyways.

tritoncin said:

that's why they found loads of heterosexual porn at his house? Club? Hello people! That is one of the most graphic porn magazines out there!

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

See, you are one of those who want to think the man was anything but straight. Gay men have sex with women, so what does Str8 porn mean? This is no different then discussing the sexual orientation of Luther Vandross. I could really care less, but an article was posted about him being "queer". It;s unfortunate we can't not discuss these other issues in a intelligent manner. So I'm not going to bring up anything sexual about the man.

lilgish said:

it's unfortunate that you as well as many others on this org are promoting stereotypes of gay people to promote your belief that he was gay/bisexual. That's WHY we can't have discuss this in an intelligent manner.
[Edited 7/14/09 12:06pm]

This is my favorite one here.

Timmy84 said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

as I remember it, they said he used the hetero porn to woo the young boys. I'm not saying he did, but I'm also not really sure I'd use any porn they found at his house as a sterling example of his sexuality

Shango said:

I like this one. wrap it up for me!

I don't buy the A sexuality bit. Not for a second.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

@ stereotypes of gay people,


Well I'm str8 and don't own a copy of Club magazine. The only call I will make on Mike is that I consider him transgender, which has nothing to do with him being gay or straight.

Lisa Marie says that he was a very passionate lover.. And, that girl does not lie. She is one of the most upfront personalities ever.

Anyway, his sexuality is of no importance anymore.

I hope that all of his inner circle who cared so much for him get their karma's worth.

He is now with our Creator.



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[Edited 7/14/09 12:25pm]

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

We all know what MJ was into.