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PrintableOnce again, Joe Jackson has surfaced in the media and, as usual, he is showing what an evil money hungry vulture he is. He has plans of his own for Michael's three children. He wants to sign them to his new record label, call them The Jackson Three, and then put them out on tour as early as next year. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Once again, Joe Jackson has surfaced in the media and, as usual, he is showing what an evil money hungry vulture he is. He has plans of his own for Michael's three children. He wants to sign them to his new record label, call them The Jackson Three, and then put them out on tour as early as next year.
And I'm in boycott of that.  Yo I posted the longer version of "Billie Jean" (as MJ had originally intended it).  | |
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vainandy said: Once again, Joe Jackson has surfaced in the media and, as usual, he is showing what an evil money hungry vulture he is. He has plans of his own for Michael's three children. He wants to sign them to his new record label, call them The Jackson Three, and then put them out on tour as early as next year.
Please, that won't ever happen. Ever. Just a bunch of bullshit. | |
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People are ignoring the malicious and sinister aspect of the fact that Michael Jackson went out of his way to deny those kids a mother.
Well, wouldn't you if she were willing to give up all parental rights to him because she randomly decided one day she didn't like being famous? | |
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It is quite upsetting for the Santa Barbara Sheriff's department to sell raid video footage of MJ's home to Inside Editon after his death. | |
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Timmy84 said: ViintageJunkiie said: So Sunset Driver is an OTW outtake? I heard it was an outtake from Destiny It's around that time frame (Destiny/Off the Wall/Triumph). Yeah, so it could have easily been on one of the 3. By any chance, do you know how far MJ got on the book he was doing back in I believe 1985. I read that "Scared Of The Moon" was based off the book he was doing | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: It's around that time frame (Destiny/Off the Wall/Triumph). Yeah, so it could have easily been on one of the 3. By any chance, do you know how far MJ got on the book he was doing back in I believe 1985. I read that "Scared Of The Moon" was based off the book he was doing What? The novel? No I don't know how far he gotten, lol. Anyway, The Associated Press just put this out an hour ago: Michael Jackson toxicology reports expected soon 1 hour ago LOS ANGELES (AP) — A Los Angeles coroner's official says toxicology reports that may determine the cause of Michael Jackson's death could be completed this week. Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said Monday that some results from tests to determine what substances Jackson had in his body when he died are in. The remaining results are expected at the end of this week or early next week. Winter said his office would announce when all the tests are done, then publicly release the results the next day. Jackson died June 25. Authorities are investigating claims the pop star consumed large amounts of prescription medications. The powerful sedative Diprivan, normally only administered in hospitals, was among items found in his home. Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. | |
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graecophilos said: asg said: Michael Jackson ‘had two gay lovers’, new book claims
Michael Jackson had at least two gay lovers and would go out disguised as a woman for secret liaisons in motel rooms, according to a new book. Published: 2:58PM BST 13 Jul 2009 Michael Jackson dressed as a woman for secret meetings in motel rooms, it is claimed The star was allegedly “madly in love” with a half-Asian construction worker and had another fling with a Hollywood waiter. Writer Ian Halperin claims in his unauthorised biography that “virtually everybody” around Jackson knew that the singer was gay. Jackson’s affair with the builder, who was in his early 20s, began in Las Vegas in 2007, according to Halperin. “He rarely left his residence, but when he did, according to one of Jackson’s closest confidants, it was to meet a boyfriend at a run-down motel. “Michael would leave the house in disguise, often dressed as a woman, and would go to meet his boyfriend at a motel that was one of Vegas’ grungiest dives. Michael was broke. He struggled to put food on the table for his children. It was all he could afford then.” Halperin added: “A close aide of Jackson who confirmed the affair to me said that he had no knowledge of what went on behind closed doors at the motel. But the aide said Jackson would dress as a woman after midnight to meet a worker employed by the city of Las Vegas.” The second man was an aspiring actor, working as a waiter, who visited Jackson’s Hollywood Hills home almost every night for three weeks during a short but passionate affair, Halperin said. The author’s claims, in the book Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson, were reported by The Sun. [Edited 7/13/09 8:29am] I'm gonna read this one. Take it all with a grain of salt. This is from Ian Halperin who claimed to be a Rolling Stone journalist (and never was). Also claimed that a source told him in Michael's will he was going to gift the Beatles catalogue back to Paul McCartney, he also made claims the star was battling emphysema, genetic illness Alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency (A1Ad) and was also losing the vision in his left eye. Until we know the actual cause of death it will be interesting to see how factual his big claims are, and how reliable his sources were. No doubt it will be an interesting book, and one he had to rewrite the ending and change the title of the book from "Return from Exile". I am sure it will an interesting read, with a mix of fact, fiction, and creative writing thrown in for good measure. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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pplrain said: It is quite upsetting for the Santa Barbara Sheriff's department to sell raid video footage of MJ's home to Inside Editon after his death.
You should expect a lot more upsetting stuff to happen, seeing as the media seems to have come down from their "king of pop!" high. | |
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Entertainment Tonight just showed a picture of how MJ would look if he didnt have surgery. Although we'll never know, the pic that they showed was by far THE BEST i've ever seen | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Entertainment Tonight just showed a picture of how MJ would look if he didnt have surgery. Although we'll never know, the pic that they showed was by far THE BEST i've ever seen
So they just showed a pic of Jermaine then? | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: Once again, Joe Jackson has surfaced in the media and, as usual, he is showing what an evil money hungry vulture he is. He has plans of his own for Michael's three children. He wants to sign them to his new record label, call them The Jackson Three, and then put them out on tour as early as next year.
And I'm in boycott of that. Yo I posted the longer version of "Billie Jean" (as MJ had originally intended it). Debbie Rowe is already using his comments to her advantage. I didn't hear all the details but she filed something saying that she wants Joe to have no contact with those children because, when she was married to Michael, he told her how Joe used to abuse him and also that he wanted his children to have a normal life. And if you think about it, he did, because as silly as those stupid masks looked on their faces, he always said he wanted their identity protected. It also worked in his favor as a publicity stunt in "continuing with the weirdness".
I just hope that abusive, money hungry asshole's comments to the media don't jeapordize Katherine from getting custody of those kids because Debbie can definately use them to her advantage if she decides she wants a payoff for those kids and The Jacksons don't give it to her. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Debbie Rowe is already using his comments to her advantage. I didn't hear all the details but she filed something saying that she wants Joe to have no contact with those children because, when she was married to Michael, he told her how Joe used to abuse him and also that he wanted his children to have a normal life. And if you think about it, he did, because as silly as those stupid masks looked on their faces, he always said he wanted their identity protected. It also worked in his favor as a publicity stunt in "continuing with the weirdness".
I just hope that abusive, money hungry asshole's comments to the media don't jeapordize Katherine from getting custody of those kids because Debbie can definately use them to her advantage if she decides she wants a payoff for those kids and The Jacksons don't give it to her. Yeah but I wouldn't be surprised if this does affect custody. | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: Once again, Joe Jackson has surfaced in the media and, as usual, he is showing what an evil money hungry vulture he is. He has plans of his own for Michael's three children. He wants to sign them to his new record label, call them The Jackson Three, and then put them out on tour as early as next year.
And I'm in boycott of that. Yo I posted the longer version of "Billie Jean" (as MJ had originally intended it). I listened to it. Isnt it true that Quincy wanted to edit it down while Michael wanted the extended version on the album? I guess Quincy won. | |
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purplesweat said: ViintageJunkiie said: Entertainment Tonight just showed a picture of how MJ would look if he didnt have surgery. Although we'll never know, the pic that they showed was by far THE BEST i've ever seen
So they just showed a pic of Jermaine then? LOL! | |
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dreamfactory313 said: Timmy84 said: And I'm in boycott of that. Yo I posted the longer version of "Billie Jean" (as MJ had originally intended it). I listened to it. Isnt it true that Quincy wanted to edit it down while Michael wanted the extended version on the album? I guess Quincy won.  Yep... he said the intro, the bridge and the ending was too long. I prefer MJ's version because you can just lose your mind dancing to it. I don't even THINK about "moonwalking" when that version comes, I just simply do MY dancing. | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: Debbie Rowe is already using his comments to her advantage. I didn't hear all the details but she filed something saying that she wants Joe to have no contact with those children because, when she was married to Michael, he told her how Joe used to abuse him and also that he wanted his children to have a normal life. And if you think about it, he did, because as silly as those stupid masks looked on their faces, he always said he wanted their identity protected. It also worked in his favor as a publicity stunt in "continuing with the weirdness".
I just hope that abusive, money hungry asshole's comments to the media don't jeapordize Katherine from getting custody of those kids because Debbie can definately use them to her advantage if she decides she wants a payoff for those kids and The Jacksons don't give it to her. Yeah but I wouldn't be surprised if this does affect custody. And can they even sing? Michael Jackson isn't their biological father so none of the talented Jackson blood is flowing through their veins. And just because they were raised by Michael Jackson, doesn't mean they can sing either. I have a house full of records and raised on music and can't sing a note. Singing is a God given gift, it's not something you can pick up just because you are exposed to talented people. But then again, since when did talent matter in the 2000s?
If there was ever a doubt in people's minds, this just goes to show what a low class hustler Joe is. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Timmy84 said: dreamfactory313 said: I listened to it. Isnt it true that Quincy wanted to edit it down while Michael wanted the extended version on the album? I guess Quincy won. Yep... he said the intro, the bridge and the ending was too long. I prefer MJ's version because you can just lose your mind dancing to it. I don't even THINK about "moonwalking" when that version comes, I just simply do MY dancing. I know. I feel the same way! There is so much tension and drama in that buildup. It demands that you dance to it. It almost has a life or heart beat of its own. | |
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vainandy said: And can they even sing? Michael Jackson isn't their biological father so none of the talented Jackson blood is flowing through their veins. And just because they were raised by Michael Jackson, doesn't mean they can sing either. I have a house full of records and raised on music and can't sing a note. Singing is a God given gift, it's not something you can pick up just because you are exposed to talented people. But then again, since when did talent matter in the 2000s?
If there was ever a doubt in people's minds, this just goes to show what a low class hustler Joe is. 
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vainandy said: And can they even sing? Michael Jackson isn't their biological father so none of the talented Jackson blood is flowing through their veins. And just because they were raised by Michael Jackson, doesn't mean they can sing either. I have a house full of records and raised on music and can't sing a note. Singing is a God given gift, it's not something you can pick up just because you are exposed to talented people. But then again, since when did talent matter in the 2000s?
If there was ever a doubt in people's minds, this just goes to show what a low class hustler Joe is. I know thats right. | |
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Timmy84 said: dreamfactory313 said: I listened to it. Isnt it true that Quincy wanted to edit it down while Michael wanted the extended version on the album? I guess Quincy won. Yep... he said the intro, the bridge and the ending was too long. I prefer MJ's version because you can just lose your mind dancing to it. I don't even THINK about "moonwalking" when that version comes, I just simply do MY dancing. Did you post the 12 Inch? I have it and it's about 6 minutes long. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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dreamfactory313 said: Timmy84 said: Yep... he said the intro, the bridge and the ending was too long. I prefer MJ's version because you can just lose your mind dancing to it. I don't even THINK about "moonwalking" when that version comes, I just simply do MY dancing. I know. I feel the same way! There is so much tension and drama in that buildup. It demands that you dance to it. It almost has a life or heart beat of its own. It's like "Got to Give It Up" or "And the Beat Goes On", when you hear the long versions, you...can't...stop...dancing.  And if you hear correctly, this version is what the second demo of "Billie Jean" was. | |
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vainandy said: Did you post the 12 Inch? I have it and it's about 6 minutes long. | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: And can they even sing? Michael Jackson isn't their biological father so none of the talented Jackson blood is flowing through their veins. And just because they were raised by Michael Jackson, doesn't mean they can sing either. I have a house full of records and raised on music and can't sing a note. Singing is a God given gift, it's not something you can pick up just because you are exposed to talented people. But then again, since when did talent matter in the 2000s?
If there was ever a doubt in people's minds, this just goes to show what a low class hustler Joe is.
"Tell it like it T-I-S!" Who the hell is that? Is that Roger Thomas when he dressed in drag on a particular episode of "What's Happening Now"? Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Who the hell is that? Is that Roger Thomas when he dressed in drag on a particular episode of "What's Happening Now"? That's Aunt Esther without the Aunt Esther get-up. | |
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Supa!
You have made your point several times now. What is the point in harping on and on about it when we don't know these people, what their lives are/were really like, what their situation was, or even how the guy really died? Michael Jackson is dead. What is the point in trying to hold him accountable for them not having a mother? And how would you? He's gone. Your point about assigning him responsibility for ANYTHING now is completely irrelevant. He's dead. End of story as far as that goes. I mean, I like to argue inconsequential shit into the ground until I'm blue in the face as much as the next guy (more, as you probably know). But the man is dead. These children lost the only parent they ever knew, and you want someone to hold him accountable for them not having a mother in their lives? Anyone that would do that to those children would be evil and disgusting and should be slapped. They'll figure it out on their own in time, or maybe they won't... maybe they'll remember their father fondly and not give as much of a damn about it as you seem to. After all, it really IS their business and none of yours. | |
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anyone reading the Rolling Stone tribute special? I'm still only on the first article, but so far, it's fantastic! | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: Did you post the 12 Inch? I have it and it's about 6 minutes long. The reason a lot of the songs of Thriller were trimmed was due to the limit of how much music an LP could store on each side. Songs like Billie Jean, Lady in My Life, Thriller, were all trimmed to fit on the roughly 45 minutes of music an LP could create. That said, Mike got his way with the 6 minute 12" that was released. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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vainandy said: Who the hell is that? Is that Roger Thomas when he dressed in drag on a particular episode of "What's Happening Now"?  | |
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vainandy said: Once again, Joe Jackson has surfaced in the media and, as usual, he is showing what an evil money hungry vulture he is. He has plans of his own for Michael's three children. He wants to sign them to his new record label, call them The Jackson Three, and then put them out on tour as early as next year.
You know that he received hundreds of thousands to do a TV special on ABC that airs Tuesday night at 10 pm? Its called Jackson Family Secrets: Life After Michael WTF!?  [Edited 7/13/09 20:17pm] | |
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