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Reply #1440 posted 07/13/09 5:23pm

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Because he's never been seen with anyone (at least grown anyway) of any gender. And the women he has been seen with such as Brooke Shields, or even married to such as Lisa Marie, the general public ain't crazy and they knew there was no way in hell he was fucking either one of those women. And then he goes further by having children and not even sleeping with Debbie Rowe (who he married) to conceive them. It just has "gay" written all over it.
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Nobody in their right mind would fuck Debbie Rowe. disbelief



falloff plus Michael never struck me as the type of guy that would fuck someone just because he could. He did'nt love her,so he wasn't going to have sex with her.
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Reply #1441 posted 07/13/09 5:24pm

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That is what makes the shit so unbelieveable! Why would ANY couple have to tell the public that they have sex? That should be a given...and nothing to be advertised or broadcasted!
lol


I've always believed that his relationship was Lisa was genuine. I think she was the only woman he truly loved.


Don't forget Diana Ross old ass! smoker
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Reply #1442 posted 07/13/09 5:26pm

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whats the point of talking about this people? whats the point? arent there positive things to talk about the man?
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #1443 posted 07/13/09 5:26pm

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I think this thread is getting kinda ridiculous. Same kind of speculation here like in the media. neutral
Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #1444 posted 07/13/09 5:28pm

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I think this thread is getting kinda ridiculous. Same kind of speculation here like in the media. neutral

Its disgusting, I posted musical articles and they got ignored ,they are more obsessed in the tabloid trash.
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Reply #1445 posted 07/13/09 5:29pm

Timmy84

MJ's Rolling Stone covers over the years:

April 29, 1971:



April 17, 1983:



December 8, 1983:



March 15, 1984:



September 24, 1987:



January 9, 1992:

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Reply #1446 posted 07/13/09 5:35pm

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Michael Jackson’s Father: The Awful Truth

Sunday, July 12, 2009
Music / By Roger Friedman



No one can stop the avaricious, evil father of Michael Jackson.

In the 18 days since Michael’s tragic death, Joseph Jackson has made at least a half million dollars off his late, famous son.

This week, according to sources, “Good Morning America” paid Jackson around $200,000 for a series of interviews that commence tomorrow morning.

ABC says it’s done this as part of a deal for a one-hour documentary on the Jackson family.

At the same time, Jackson is said to be arriving in London tomorrow, the day that Michael was set to start his shows at the O2 Arena. Sources tell me that the British tabloids are paying Jackson at least $250,000 plus expenses to exploit Michael’s memory.

Meanwhile, Michael—remember him? – is lying in a borrowed vault in Forest Lawn Cemetery in Los Angeles, still not permanently buried or interred because the Jackson family hasn’t figured out which location would maximize their profits best.

The horror of Joseph Jackson is only more heightened by the fact that he’s told reporters this week that he somehow foresees exploiting Michael’s children as performers in a bid to regain his glory days of the Jackson 5.

If Michael had a grave, he’d be rolling in it.

Michael Jackson told interviewers many times how his father abused and beat him when he was a child. He said it through tears to Oprah Winfrey.

There is abundant evidence that Michael hated his father. One insider working on Jackson’s business affairs since his death, a person who hadn’t known Joseph Jackson previously, said to me last week, “He killed Michael. Everything he did to to him led up to this. I’ve never met a more awful person.”

Indeed, Joseph Jackson has never hesitated to try and cash in on Michael’s success after his superstar son finally broke free of him in the late 1970s with the “Off the Wall” album. Joseph is famous for coming up with schemes behind Michael’s back.

To wit: On the day of Michael’s famous 30th anniversary solo show, Joe Jackson called a news conference and invited select journalists. I was one of them. It was obvious Michael had no idea this was going on. Mr. Jackson told us he was going to start selling footage of the Jackson 5 for profit. He was eager to be a star himself, clearly.

I asked him about his parental philosophy. “You have to be strict with kids,” he said. “There’s nothing wrong with punishment as long as you know how to punish.” What would be a typical punishment? “Beat his back,” Joe Jackson replied before I could even get the question out.

In 2004, before Michael’s child molestation trial began, I received a call from vulture journalist Daphne Barak. She said, “I have Joseph Jackson here and we want to talk to you about a project.” I hung up.

This year, on March 26th, Jackson himself called me to say he wanted to take over the just announced concerts at the O2 Arena because only he and his partner Leonard Rowe would know how to run them. Shortly after that, Jackson and Rowe threw in with another concert promoter. The latter man filed suit against Michael to get a cut of his AEG Live contract.

And still: three days after Michael died, Joseph Jackson turned up at the BET Awards in Los Angeles with a Michael Jackson impersonator in tow. He announced that he was starting a record company on national TV.

It’s not the first time that Joseph Jackson has tried to claw his way back into the music business. A few years ago he tried in vain to launch a young female singer out of Las Vegas. The project didn’t go anywhere.

Meantime, the judge in the custody hearing next Monday July 20th deciding the fate of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson should be aware of some things in the Jackson family history. Joe Jackson has an illegitimate daughter named JohVonnie by a woman named Cheryl Terrell. Janet actually mentioned this in an interview with Parade Magazine in 2008.

He also had at least one other extramarital relationship, with a woman named Gina Sprague. All of this has been documented in various Jackson books, including one by LaToya.

Also, Katherine Jackson filed for divorce twice during her marriage, once in 1973 and again in 1979. In each case she was persuaded not to go through with it rather than hurt the family’s reputation.



How anybody could fail to realize that Joe among others is a big part of what his son became is beyond me. Mike seldom had proper guidance from anyone who had his best interest at heart from the very beginning and he coped the best way he knew how. Eventually, he was overwhelmed by the sheer weight of his own celebrity persona and the inevitable hangers-on who fed on him. With so much meat at stake the vultures won't stop scavenging his corpse anytime soon.

People are impressed by all the glitz and glitter but hardly anyone ever considers the real price of fame and fortune. disbelief We would do well to remember that many times it ain't all it's cracked up to be.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #1447 posted 07/13/09 5:39pm

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Reply #1448 posted 07/13/09 5:43pm

Timmy84



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Reply #1450 posted 07/13/09 5:46pm

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babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

Michael Jackson’s Father: The Awful Truth

Sunday, July 12, 2009
Music / By Roger Friedman



No one can stop the avaricious, evil father of Michael Jackson.

In the 18 days since Michael’s tragic death, Joseph Jackson has made at least a half million dollars off his late, famous son.

This week, according to sources, “Good Morning America” paid Jackson around $200,000 for a series of interviews that commence tomorrow morning.

ABC says it’s done this as part of a deal for a one-hour documentary on the Jackson family.

At the same time, Jackson is said to be arriving in London tomorrow, the day that Michael was set to start his shows at the O2 Arena. Sources tell me that the British tabloids are paying Jackson at least $250,000 plus expenses to exploit Michael’s memory.

Meanwhile, Michael—remember him? – is lying in a borrowed vault in Forest Lawn Cemetery in Los Angeles, still not permanently buried or interred because the Jackson family hasn’t figured out which location would maximize their profits best.

The horror of Joseph Jackson is only more heightened by the fact that he’s told reporters this week that he somehow foresees exploiting Michael’s children as performers in a bid to regain his glory days of the Jackson 5.

If Michael had a grave, he’d be rolling in it.

Michael Jackson told interviewers many times how his father abused and beat him when he was a child. He said it through tears to Oprah Winfrey.

There is abundant evidence that Michael hated his father. One insider working on Jackson’s business affairs since his death, a person who hadn’t known Joseph Jackson previously, said to me last week, “He killed Michael. Everything he did to to him led up to this. I’ve never met a more awful person.”

Indeed, Joseph Jackson has never hesitated to try and cash in on Michael’s success after his superstar son finally broke free of him in the late 1970s with the “Off the Wall” album. Joseph is famous for coming up with schemes behind Michael’s back.

To wit: On the day of Michael’s famous 30th anniversary solo show, Joe Jackson called a news conference and invited select journalists. I was one of them. It was obvious Michael had no idea this was going on. Mr. Jackson told us he was going to start selling footage of the Jackson 5 for profit. He was eager to be a star himself, clearly.

I asked him about his parental philosophy. “You have to be strict with kids,” he said. “There’s nothing wrong with punishment as long as you know how to punish.” What would be a typical punishment? “Beat his back,” Joe Jackson replied before I could even get the question out.

In 2004, before Michael’s child molestation trial began, I received a call from vulture journalist Daphne Barak. She said, “I have Joseph Jackson here and we want to talk to you about a project.” I hung up.

This year, on March 26th, Jackson himself called me to say he wanted to take over the just announced concerts at the O2 Arena because only he and his partner Leonard Rowe would know how to run them. Shortly after that, Jackson and Rowe threw in with another concert promoter. The latter man filed suit against Michael to get a cut of his AEG Live contract.

And still: three days after Michael died, Joseph Jackson turned up at the BET Awards in Los Angeles with a Michael Jackson impersonator in tow. He announced that he was starting a record company on national TV.

It’s not the first time that Joseph Jackson has tried to claw his way back into the music business. A few years ago he tried in vain to launch a young female singer out of Las Vegas. The project didn’t go anywhere.

Meantime, the judge in the custody hearing next Monday July 20th deciding the fate of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson should be aware of some things in the Jackson family history. Joe Jackson has an illegitimate daughter named JohVonnie by a woman named Cheryl Terrell. Janet actually mentioned this in an interview with Parade Magazine in 2008.

He also had at least one other extramarital relationship, with a woman named Gina Sprague. All of this has been documented in various Jackson books, including one by LaToya.

Also, Katherine Jackson filed for divorce twice during her marriage, once in 1973 and again in 1979. In each case she was persuaded not to go through with it rather than hurt the family’s reputation.



How anybody could fail to realize that Joe among others is a big part of what his son became is beyond me. Mike seldom had proper guidance from anyone who had his best interest at heart from the very beginning and he coped the best way he knew how. Eventually, he was overwhelmed by the sheer weight of his own celebrity persona and the inevitable hangers-on who fed on him. With so much meat at stake the vultures won't stop scavenging his corpse anytime soon.

People are impressed by all the glitz and glitter but hardly anyone ever considers the real price of fame and fortune. disbelief We would do well to remember that many times it ain't all it's cracked up to be.


Ultimately Michael made his own decisions, and he paid the price for making the wrong ones.

Joe Jackson is not the reason why Michael became the way he did. Michael is the reason he became the way he did, and he's an example of a person who couldn't handle fame and pressure.

Michael's other brothers came through okay, as well as Janet and Rebbie. They all grew up in the same household.
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Reply #1451 posted 07/13/09 5:47pm

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Great video posted today. Please watch.


Thanks...this dude nailed it!
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Reply #1452 posted 07/13/09 5:52pm

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Reply #1453 posted 07/13/09 5:54pm

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suga10 said:

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How anybody could fail to realize that Joe among others is a big part of what his son became is beyond me. Mike seldom had proper guidance from anyone who had his best interest at heart from the very beginning and he coped the best way he knew how. Eventually, he was overwhelmed by the sheer weight of his own celebrity persona and the inevitable hangers-on who fed on him. With so much meat at stake the vultures won't stop scavenging his corpse anytime soon.

People are impressed by all the glitz and glitter but hardly anyone ever considers the real price of fame and fortune. disbelief We would do well to remember that many times it ain't all it's cracked up to be.


Ultimately Michael made his own decisions, and he paid the price for making the wrong ones.

Joe Jackson is not the reason why Michael became the way he did. Michael is the reason he became the way he did.

Michael's other brothers came through okay, as well as Janet and Rebbie. They all grew up in the same household.
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I would agree that Mike had the ultimate responsibility for his own life, (assuming he was of sound mind and body), however we would be remiss if we did not take other factors into consideration...no one is a self contained island unto himself...that's all I'm saying.

I would also question whether his brothers and sisters came through completely unscathed when we have plenty of evidence to the contrary although none as extreme as Michael, who was clearly the most sensitive of the clan.

People are fond of citing one factor or another as the cause of a situation but the truth is there's usually plenty of blame to go around.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #1454 posted 07/13/09 5:54pm

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MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
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Reply #1455 posted 07/13/09 5:55pm

Timmy84

From one of my favorite YouTube posters, 19urban72, who always post the oldies:

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Reply #1456 posted 07/13/09 5:59pm

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Thrillicious
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Reply #1457 posted 07/13/09 5:59pm

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Reply #1458 posted 07/13/09 6:02pm

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babynoz said:

suga10 said:



Ultimately Michael made his own decisions, and he paid the price for making the wrong ones.

Joe Jackson is not the reason why Michael became the way he did. Michael is the reason he became the way he did.

Michael's other brothers came through okay, as well as Janet and Rebbie. They all grew up in the same household.
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I would agree that Mike had the ultimate responsibility for his own life, (assuming he was of sound mind and body), however we would be remiss if we did not take other factors into consideration...no one is a self contained island unto himself...that's all I'm saying.

I would also question whether his brothers and sisters came through completely unscathed when we have plenty of evidence to the contrary although none as extreme as Michael, who was clearly the most sensitive of the clan.

People are fond of citing one factor or another as the cause of a situation but the truth is there's usually plenty of blame to go around.

it's called therapy. i'm sure michael could have afforded it
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Reply #1459 posted 07/13/09 6:03pm

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Reply #1460 posted 07/13/09 6:05pm

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Phishanga said:

I think this thread is getting kinda ridiculous. Same kind of speculation here like in the media. neutral

Its disgusting, I posted musical articles and they got ignored ,they are more obsessed in the tabloid trash.



It's probably better not to dwell on what others choose to focus on. For example, I chose to respond to postings that showed a bit of insight as well as having having posted a few vids that were especially memorable to me. I appreciated your articles very much so no worries. cool
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #1461 posted 07/13/09 6:08pm

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Reply #1462 posted 07/13/09 6:09pm

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music, I dig this biggrin
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Reply #1463 posted 07/13/09 6:12pm

Timmy84

Yeah it's a nice joint. nod



dancing jig
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Reply #1464 posted 07/13/09 6:14pm

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I would agree that Mike had the ultimate responsibility for his own life, (assuming he was of sound mind and body), however we would be remiss if we did not take other factors into consideration...no one is a self contained island unto himself...that's all I'm saying.

I would also question whether his brothers and sisters came through completely unscathed when we have plenty of evidence to the contrary although none as extreme as Michael, who was clearly the most sensitive of the clan.

People are fond of citing one factor or another as the cause of a situation but the truth is there's usually plenty of blame to go around.

it's called therapy. i'm sure michael could have afforded it


Everyone's NORMAL is different, until someone tells you it's not normal!
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Reply #1465 posted 07/13/09 6:15pm

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I would agree that Mike had the ultimate responsibility for his own life, (assuming he was of sound mind and body), however we would be remiss if we did not take other factors into consideration...no one is a self contained island unto himself...that's all I'm saying.

I would also question whether his brothers and sisters came through completely unscathed when we have plenty of evidence to the contrary although none as extreme as Michael, who was clearly the most sensitive of the clan.

People are fond of citing one factor or another as the cause of a situation but the truth is there's usually plenty of blame to go around.

it's called therapy. i'm sure michael could have afforded it


And by many reports he had it at various times. There's plenty of people in the hospital, jailhouse and graveyard who have had "therapy" so let's not pretend that it's some kind of panacea for all human ills. Other factors play a part in healing just as other factors play a part in illness.

Please stop implying that I'm making excuses when what I'm really attempting to do is understand things from a holistic standpoint. You've already informed me that you don't agree...no need to do it again and again.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #1466 posted 07/13/09 6:17pm

Timmy84

I always felt this joint was on a Marvin Gaye/Teddy Pendergrass tip:

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Reply #1467 posted 07/13/09 6:20pm

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Janice Dickinson, on Michael's death...
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Reply #1468 posted 07/13/09 6:22pm

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Love it when MJ & Jackie sing lead together.
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Reply #1469 posted 07/13/09 6:24pm

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Michael Jackson Remembered:
John Singleton on Challenging His Hero

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"When I first met him I didn't feel nervous because I kind of felt all my life was leading up to that moment. As a fan, he was always in my life. I was 15 years when I went to the Grammy Awards and saw him win all his Grammys at the Shrine. He asked me, "What songs do you like?" and if I wanted to do a video. And I said, "OK, well, can we put black people in the video?" [Laughs] I was challenging him. And he said, "Whatever you want." He was cool with me because I was straightforward with him, and I felt that everybody was always goose-stepping around him and never telling him the real deal. And this was from the perspective of a young black kid growing up admiring Michael Jackson, being inspired by the vision that he had not only in music but in his life. To be able to hang out with him and call him a friend was an honor for me.


On the set [of the "Remember the Time" video] he was mischievous. My choreographer in that video was Fatima Robinson, and the three of us got together and she did the routine with him. It was really a great vibe. Just seeing how he would get every little move, bit by bit by bit, the whole routine, like we were putting on a Broadway show. He said, "Whatever you want to make this as cool as possible, let's do it. Let's get Eddie Murphy. Let's get Magic Johnson." Magic Johnson was going through his thing where he'd just revealed he had HIV. Michael said, "We have to put Magic in this video." I'll always remember that.

He was a very visual guy. They weren't videos to him. They were short films — visualizing the funkiness of what he was trying to accomplish in the music. He was always trying to set the bar higher.

I was hoping he was going to finish his album. He's got umpteen tracks that he's done over the six or seven years. He was so meticulous about what he did. He had hit songs on reserve that he would never even let out, and he'd work with all these different producers. If you were somebody of any repute in the music business, Michael Jackson would call and ask to work with you. People would come. But he would never release any of the stuff.

I've eaten the Jackson 5 cereal, I've played the 45 records, I watched the cartoon when I was a little kid, I went to the concerts, I was at the Victory concert. I had a glitter tie, which I hate to admit. [Laughs] I will love him forever."
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