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Reply #210 posted 05/10/09 2:19pm

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Some Debarge Concert/Performance pics








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Reply #211 posted 05/10/09 2:29pm

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Here is the first single off of "All This Love". It was released before "I Like It".
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Reply #212 posted 05/10/09 2:32pm

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El, Barry White, James Ingram and Barry White, singing "Secret Garden"
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Reply #213 posted 05/11/09 3:33am

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Reply #214 posted 05/11/09 6:40pm

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Tracks from Chico's 2nd cd


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Reply #215 posted 05/12/09 1:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

OldTeenager said:


You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]


James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong, wrong wrong!!!! hmph!
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Reply #216 posted 05/12/09 4:57pm

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Timmy84 said:



James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong,
ong wrong!!!! hmph![/quote


This is so wrong on so many levels.All I can say is WOW sad
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Reply #217 posted 05/12/09 5:51pm

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First of all that story has no factual basis. It is a sensational story designed to cause trouble and get everyone's drawers in an uproar. IGNORE IT and stories like it. That is not what this thread is about. If you want to comment about bs nasty rumors like that, pm the person who posts it, but I and others would appreciate it if tales like that were not posted on this thread or responded to.

MOVING ON!
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Reply #218 posted 05/12/09 11:35pm

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Timmy84 said:



James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong, wrong wrong!!!! hmph!


Ask him, lol.
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Reply #219 posted 05/13/09 5:23am

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Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!

You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]



When Debarge opened for Luther Bobby Debarge was not apart of Debarge so what was he doing there. was he just tagging along. This story however is highly unlikely.
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Reply #220 posted 05/13/09 8:19am

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Please drop this. This story is not worth talking about. Let's MOVE ON!
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Reply #221 posted 05/13/09 8:55am

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How many kids does El have? From each wife? Its sad that love is not consistent in his life...his ballads were so heartfelt. Yeah Yeah I know, somebody else wrote them but he made them his in the way he sang. My favs will always be I Call Your Name and Love Me In A Special Way. sigh
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Reply #222 posted 05/13/09 9:14am

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El has 11 kids-there is the mother of his eldest, daughter Adris, his first wife, a former Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Jr, his second wife Tracey, who is the mother of 2 of his kids and his third wife Monique, who he had 5 kids with. There are 2 kids that I know nothing about.
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Reply #223 posted 05/13/09 12:41pm

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scriptgirl said:

El has 11 kids-there is the mother of his eldest, daughter Adris, his first wife, a former Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Jr, his second wife Tracey, who is the mother of 2 of his kids and his third wife Monique, who he had 5 kids with. There are 2 kids that I know nothing about.



Wow 11 kids? I hope he is able to financially provide for them but it doesn't seem that way when drugs take up a big chunk of yo money. Pretty boys always have a bunch of kids. Sheesh these women! But I guess if i was married to him i'd knock out at least one for love and legacy purposes. confused
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Reply #224 posted 05/13/09 12:47pm

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How many kids does El have? From each wife? Its sad that love is not consistent in his life...his ballads were so heartfelt. Yeah Yeah I know, somebody else wrote them but he made them his in the way he sang. My favs will always be I Call Your Name and Love Me In A Special Way. sigh


He did write them ("All This Love", "Love Me in a Special Way", "Time Will Reveal", tho I think Bunny wrote the lyrics on the last one).

"I Call Your Name" is a Switch song. smile
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Reply #225 posted 05/13/09 12:50pm

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Timmy84 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

How many kids does El have? From each wife? Its sad that love is not consistent in his life...his ballads were so heartfelt. Yeah Yeah I know, somebody else wrote them but he made them his in the way he sang. My favs will always be I Call Your Name and Love Me In A Special Way. sigh


He did write them ("All This Love", "Love Me in a Special Way", "Time Will Reveal", tho I think Bunny wrote the lyrics on the last one).

"I Call Your Name" is a Switch song. smile



But i heard that was Eldra's vocals on the song. He shoulda had bankroll then if he wrote the songs. Well i guess that's how he affording 11 kids. confused
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Reply #226 posted 05/13/09 1:02pm

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Script. Rate your favorite Chico albums in order. Did you like "Kiss Serious"?
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Reply #227 posted 05/13/09 2:09pm

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You can't trust hearsay. El was not in Switch-it was his brother Bobby. Also, El did write those songs. As has been discussed in this thread, El does not own the rights to his publishing.

TD3, I wasn't aware of Chico until "Long Time" came out. I haven't heard his 80s stuff till now and with few exceptions, I don't think i'ts very good.
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Reply #228 posted 05/13/09 2:34pm

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scriptgirl said:

You can't trust hearsay. El was not in Switch-it was his brother Bobby. Also, El did write those songs. As has been discussed in this thread, El does not own the rights to his publishing.

TD3, I wasn't aware of Chico until "Long Time" came out. I haven't heard his 80s stuff till now and with few exceptions, I don't think i'ts very good.



So that's Bobby singing on I call Your Name? Dayum they sound exactly alike. Bobby just doesn't look like a falsetto to me...I can't explain it. When i googled the lyrics El's name pops up. that's so sad Bobby died of aids. if they would have had a decent father i don't think they would have fallen prey to the demons of the entertainment industry. sad
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Reply #229 posted 05/13/09 3:13pm

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I don't think you can just place the blame with their father. The mother kept going back to him and having kids by him.
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Reply #230 posted 05/13/09 3:34pm

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Chico last weekend
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Reply #231 posted 05/13/09 4:11pm

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I don't think you can just place the blame with their father. The mother kept going back to him and having kids by him.



Please explain your theory of this.Their mother was having children during the 50's and 60's.Remember there was no shelter for abused women back then and much less for a black woman.On the Unsung program The mother said she could not go to her family because she had to many children to house.But the father is the abuser of that family.Sexually,mentally and phisically.Yes,I think the father is a BIG problem of thier mishaps.Maybe Ms.Debarge could have protected them better,but what is a woman to do when she is getting beat down too?Abuse is an UGLY thing.If you haven't been through it you can't speak on it.
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Reply #232 posted 05/13/09 4:35pm

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I think she helped to enable the dad by staying. I also don't understand why you would keep having kids by a man who is abusing you and the kids you already have. I don't have to have been abused to speak about it, just like I don't have to be an alcoholic to speak about that either. People have opinions. You may think mine is wrong, but there it is.
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Reply #233 posted 05/14/09 1:32pm

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I think she helped to enable the dad by staying. I also don't understand why you would keep having kids by a man who is abusing you and the kids you already have. I don't have to have been abused to speak about it, just like I don't have to be an alcoholic to speak about that either. People have opinions. You may think mine is wrong, but there it is.



Marital Rape and illegal abortion = a bunch a kids by an abusive husband.

I seriously don't think she laid with him willingly and I could understand a mother not wanting to split up her children via foster care or wards of the state i think the term was many years ago.
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Reply #234 posted 05/14/09 1:59pm

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I think things in the beginning were quite different. I think there may have been real love there-at least on the mom's part.
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Reply #235 posted 05/14/09 3:13pm

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the other possiblity is...and I know somebody gonna have a problem with this...but maybe she wanted as many mixed babies as her body would allow. Now I don't think it was necessarily like that, but I've seen some chicks with a lot of mixed kids by dudes who weren't worth the skin they were born in all cuz some chick wanted so called "pretty" babies.

alright let the onslaught begin confused
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Reply #236 posted 05/14/09 3:18pm

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She is very religious and I doubt she would have used birth control anyway
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Reply #237 posted 05/14/09 3:21pm

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Reply #238 posted 05/14/09 3:23pm

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New Kristinia song
"Make a Girl Happy"
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Reply #239 posted 05/14/09 3:29pm

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New Kristina song, "Gotta Be Love"
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