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Reply #120 posted 04/28/09 7:08pm

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Chico, El andd James and their fans over the years


















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Reply #121 posted 04/28/09 7:19pm

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James singing lead on two tracks on "In a Special Way"


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Reply #122 posted 04/28/09 10:26pm

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scriptgirl said:

Chico, El andd James and their fans over the years


















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Those Debarge brothers were irresistable I must admit "Mama Debarge said the girls used to climb through their windows trying to get them boys when they were in their teens"! You can't really blame them...but they come with a lotta bagagge too. Even Janet and LaToya had Debarge fever back in the day. Vanity got caught up and so did Chante Moore and most of the unsuspecting female victims. It was a shock when I found out El discovered Chante Moore!
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Reply #123 posted 04/28/09 11:14pm

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Those Debarge brothers were irresistable I must admit "Mama Debarge said the girls used to climb through their windows trying to get them boys when they were in their teens"! You can't really blame them...but they come with a lotta bagagge too. Even Janet and LaToya had Debarge fever back in the day. Vanity got caught up and so did Chante Moore and most of the unsuspecting female victims. It was a shock when I found out El discovered Chante Moore!


Wow. I didn't know either. neutral
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Reply #124 posted 04/29/09 4:29am

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My oldest cousin Reena, who got me into Debarge told me more than once that as soon as she heard "rhythm", she knew it was the beginning of the end for the group.



I have to agree with your cousin. The moment I bought that album and sat back to listen to it I also felt like this is the end. With the exception of 'You Were It Well" and "Share My World" I found the album hard to bare.
Same goes for El's solo album except I hated it all. Jay Graydon & David Foster I'm sure are good producers but not for Debarge.

El's Gemini album would have served better as a fifth album by Debarge.
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Reply #125 posted 04/29/09 8:27am

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Yeah, the last Debarge album was awful. I wonder if Debarge would have been better served by being on another label, like Atlantic or Warner Brothers.
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Reply #126 posted 04/29/09 9:40am

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I think they would have been better off anywhere else.
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Reply #127 posted 04/29/09 9:46am

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Also I ws not to crazy about Bunny's album at all or the Debarge BAD BOYS album.
I mean what were they thinking?
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Reply #128 posted 04/29/09 9:46am

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I am thinking Elektra may have been best for them. I don't know that Warner Brothers would have nurtured them.
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Reply #129 posted 04/29/09 9:47am

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you gotta respect an artist whose not afraid to get friendly with the fans. the pics are great and look almost familial.
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Reply #130 posted 04/29/09 9:53am

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Bunny's voice is an acquired taste, better suited for gospel, although, she could do Minnie Riperton type stuff. I think that Bunny missed her time period-if she had come out in the 70s, her voice would have fit right in.

Debarge without El and Bunny was a moot point. Bobby was not a good fit at all for the group
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Reply #131 posted 04/29/09 9:55am

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Debarge has pretty much always had a great rep for being cool with their fans. From all I have read, they are truly grateful for the love they get from us and don't take it for granted. James, Randy and Bunny have said that after years of being rejected for their biracial heritage, to finally be accepted and loved by fans meant the world to them.
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Reply #132 posted 04/29/09 10:44am

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scriptgirl said:

Bunny's voice is an acquired taste, better suited for gospel, although, she could do Minnie Riperton type stuff. I think that Bunny missed her time period-if she had come out in the 70s, her voice would have fit right in.

Debarge without El and Bunny was a moot point. Bobby was not a good fit at all for the group


It was not Bunny's voice I hated. I hated the choice of material,writers producers of the album itself. As for Bobby he missed his time. He should have gone solo prior to Introducing Debarge,and when his voice was at it's best. Once El matured he proved to be the better all around singer/writer,producer of the two.
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Reply #133 posted 04/29/09 11:37am

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Bobby did miss his time. He should have put out shit right after Switch went downhill. People rave about Bobby's talent for days, but I just don't see it.
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Reply #134 posted 04/29/09 2:06pm

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Cool pics, scriptgirl.

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Reply #135 posted 04/29/09 3:06pm

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Thank you, I try my best
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Reply #136 posted 04/30/09 2:48pm

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I agree, script you have a mighty fine collection of all things DeBarge. Just when I thought maybe you've reached your limit you pull out another batch of amazing matarial. Thanks. clapping

I ran up on a site last year in which (I didn't bookmark it) it charted the success singer/musicians who left their respective successful groups to go solo. I was surprised to learn more often than not, those solo careers were at best mediocre in terms of music chart /record success. In most instances the music may have been good... excellent even but it didn't transfer to solo success. I said all that to say this.

I thought it was a mistake for all DeBares to leave their respective groups, all of them left too soon. I thought Bobby miscalculated his popularity within Switch as being strong enough to parlay another career with his family. I thought El's talents shined when he collaborated with his siblings, mighty fine musicians in their own right.

I very muched like El's solo albums and it's a shame his respective record companines didn't feel the need promote him nor his music. confused I agree with you daingermouz2020, Gemini should've have been a DeBarge's album.
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Reply #137 posted 04/30/09 3:12pm

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I asked my parents and others around that earaabout Switch and how popular they were. My parents are East Coast and my dad says they were popular, my mom says middling. My hairdresser is from LA and she says out here, Switch was banging.

I do think Bobby thought he was more popular than he was, but according to Jermaine Jackson on Unsung, a lot of people were whispering in his ear, turning his head.

El, drugs or no drugs, could have been huge. It was a matter of the material.
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Reply #138 posted 05/01/09 2:49pm

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This article is from Billboard from last month. Chico talks about his new project.
CHICO DeBARGE TO EDUCATE EX-CONS

As the new managing partner for the Chicago-based nonprofit organization P.R.O. (People Reclaiming Ourselves), R&B singer Chico DeBarge hopes to provide former convicts with the resources they need to re-enter society. He says he understands their struggle. "I was locked up for six years [on drug charges], and coming out was very hard," he says. "This program helps you cut through that red tape and help get over those hurdles."

P.R.O. will open its doors April 15, with plans to expand to other cities. "We're going to halfway houses and also to prisons and different correctional facilities around the area of Chicago," DeBarge says, noting that the organization will help reduce repeat offenders by educating ex-cons about jobs, housing, substance abuse and mental health issues. "We'll drop off information and fliers and also speak at these particular places and let them know this type of program is available for them."

In 1988 DeBarge was sentenced to six years for conspiracy to distribute narcotics. He says the time was a difficult period and "having [P.R.O.] was something I always wished I had. " He learned about P. R.O. after a day in the studio while talking with its founders, Jamie Miller and Darryl Lamb. A new album, "Addiction" (Kedar Entertainment), will be released June 30. - Mitchell PetersGOOD WORKS
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Reply #139 posted 05/01/09 4:40pm

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OK... we don't have any Switch up in this thread. So, I'm going to do the honors. biggrin This is my favorite Switch song "Friend In The Sky" written by Bobby & Bunny DeBarge. Lead Vocals: Bobby DeBarge and Phillip Ingram. The string quartet arrangements in this song are..."SICK".

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

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Reply #140 posted 05/01/09 4:41pm

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The end of the song is what I imagine Heven sounds like.
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Reply #141 posted 05/02/09 6:27am

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OK... we don't have any Switch up in this thread. So, I'm going to do the honors. biggrin This is my favorite Switch song "Friend In The Sky" written by Bobby & Bunny Debarge. Lead Vocals: Bobby DeBarge and Phillip Ingram. The string quartet arrangements in this song are..."SICK".

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

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I thought I lost interest in this thread long ago, but this is really cool,actually. I am sitting my black ass on my little terrace catching some rays and loving all of this old skool falsetto! This music really takes me back to my childhood!

Keep it up, Script wink
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Reply #142 posted 05/02/09 7:28am

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Ott, glad to have you back!! Just stick around and I will have some goodies for you!
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Reply #143 posted 05/02/09 5:28pm

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Chic35 said:


Man El Debarge really meant the shit all this LOVE IS WAITING for you! His first wife's friend posted in a thread that when Tracey was pregnant with the second child, El was already living with another woman and the marriage was going sour, and drugs had a lot to do with it. Now Monique it was the similar scenario because they got into it about one of his sideline girlfriends causing a disturbance (according to his Mother) and it caused them to get into it, which caused him to be brought up on domestic violence charges back in 2007! El was arrested before for beating up a girlfriend on the side, in a hotel room as well, prior to him assaulting Monique, not to mention the girl he assaulted back in the mid 80's because she refused his sexual advances. The brotha CAN NOT TAKE REJECTION well. Now if he actually hit her that is a mystery to us but there was no evidence because charges was dropped. El's wives are realizing that they are not the only ones gettin the lovin... eek This is typical behavior for a handsome musician...

He means what he SINGS!!!!!

That El Debarge is a TRUE Womanizer!!!






Yall aint playing with this DeBarge Thread!!! But may I say something about the incident where El got arrested for domestic violence charges. Wasn't that the girlfriend he was accused for those charges? The reason why I said that was I remember him saying in a interview he did in Chico's 9s magazine that he and his girlfriend had been going at all day and at times it got heated. She left that evening and he went to sleep. But early that next morning he woke up from some banging on his door and it was the cops. I supply the link for you.Here's a little of what he said in that article. I don't believe Monique was the one he was accused of beating up on. Unless the girlfriend is Monique and I doubt that. Again here's the link!!!


El is just coming off of a run in with the law, where he was hit with a domestic
charge that was later thrown out in court, but brought to the forefront a handful of
other unresolved issues from years back. El, now a free man talked candidly about
his arrest and brief stint in the county jail. “It was eye opening,” El said wiping down
the center island in his kitchen and pausing to explain that they had a Barbeque
earlier. There were still trays and containers of food on the stove and on the counter
behind him. El continued to recount his recent struggles, explaining that the alleged
fight was just a blow up between his girlfriend and him that “got pretty heated at
times.” He admits that it seemed to go on and on and by the end of the evening,
she was gone and he was exhausted. He says that he went to bed and was
awakened by a persistent banging at the front door of his Palmdale, CA home. It
was the police following up on a call that they had received alleging assault on his
girlfriend. El says that he remembers thinking “Oh this is great,” as he was arrested
and booked. But that was only the beginning of his legal woes. Once in the system,
the state found several prior offenses, and failure to appear charges that El had yet
to address in court. El laughs, I knew that I was going to have some time to cool my
heals.


http://www.the9smag.com/sept07.pdf

Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!
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Reply #144 posted 05/02/09 5:46pm

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Ottensen said:

TD3 said:

OK... we don't have any Switch up in this thread. So, I'm going to do the honors. biggrin This is my favorite Switch song "Friend In The Sky" written by Bobby & Bunny Debarge. Lead Vocals: Bobby DeBarge and Phillip Ingram. The string quartet arrangements in this song are..."SICK".

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

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I thought I lost interest in this thread long ago, but this is really cool,actually. I am sitting my black ass on my little terrace catching some rays and loving all of this old skool falsetto! This music really takes me back to my childhood!

Keep it up, Script wink

I love that song and I like Switch's rendition better! That song has recently been sampled by Raheem Devaughn on the LOVE EXPERIENCE CD! Check out This is my Dream by Switch on youtube....that one is one of my favorites as well! Bobby had a beautiful voice! biggrin
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Reply #145 posted 05/03/09 5:32pm

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Kristinia Debarge at Kiss FM in LA
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Reply #146 posted 05/03/09 11:03pm

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So whatever became of Tommy DeBarge?
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Reply #147 posted 05/04/09 4:47am

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I asked my parents and others around that earaabout Switch and how popular they were. My parents are East Coast and my dad says they were popular, my mom says middling. My hairdresser is from LA and she says out here, Switch was banging.

I do think Bobby thought he was more popular than he was, but according to Jermaine Jackson on Unsung, a lot of people were whispering in his ear, turning his head.

El, drugs or no drugs, could have been huge. It was a matter of the material.


I remember reading years ago in a issue of "Right On" that Bobby's voice will no longer be the focal point on Switch albums. This is prior to me finding out that he had gone solo. I think this was around the time they released Switch V.There was a supposed recorded album for which I read was shelved (would love to hear it) Later it was announced he was to sign or was signed with Larry Blackmons Atlanta Artist label. But of course nothing ever materialized.

I personally believe Bobby started to smell himself as my mom would say. His mistake was bringing El into the public. Why would motown need to guys that sound alike with the same sir name? El clearly is the better singer out of the two. Bobby's does alot more hollaring where El is a more of just a straight singer with the ability to do those what I call vocal acrobatics but doesn't have to.

I am told Bobby said in a interview "I have a younger brother who can do what I can do vocally and things that I just can't do.
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Reply #148 posted 05/04/09 4:51am

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I also find it strange as close as they appear to be.Why El and Bobby never worked together
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Reply #149 posted 05/04/09 8:04am

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Dainger, thanks for the info!
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