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Reply #480 posted 02/11/09 8:14pm

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I am outraged that clebs questioned about this situation went on to say "Chris Brown is a good guy who made a mistake", to "I am praying for HIM', yet no one except Kanye West took a stand against domestic abuse, and actually cared about the welfare of Rihanna. The fact that he had the audacity to beat her down in public tells me this isn't the first time he has become violent with her. What message does this send to children regarding domestic violence? Does the abuser get a pass because he is famous?
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Reply #481 posted 02/11/09 8:18pm

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bboy87 said:


Put a red shirt with an A on the front and you got



lol The Chipmunks' teeth don't even come close to Chris Brown's choppers...now, Mr. Ed may be able to take him in a biting match.



Now that you mention it, he does look like Mr. Ed. lol
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Reply #482 posted 02/11/09 8:21pm

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Rihanna being a female has nothing to do with my thinking around why a self-defense argument wouldn't (much less shouldn't) hold. I've taken up a pretty extensive argument against that sort of gender disparity in at least one other thread, in fact.

My point is given the extent of her injuries (assuming the rumors are true), a jury would likely laugh at a self-defense argument, even if she struck first. Chris allegedly blackened both her eyes, bloodied her nose, split her lip, bit her and choked her to the point of unconsciousness. Unless she had transformed into a werewolf or something, that waaaaay overshoots self defense in most people's minds, I'd think.
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I edited my post above but I could argue that it is still self-defense. You can kill any intruder coming into your home because of the "a man's home is his castle.' theory of property.
But there is also recognition in the law that one's level of fear makes it hard to react rationally and the law is not going to require one to act as if one were "a rational actor."
So a court is going to be reluctant to draw line on where self-defense is and isn't acceptable or how far someone should go to deter an attack. In an enclosed space such as a two seat sports car where the smaller person has the advantage, how do you stop the attack? You can't open the door until you get this person off of you.

I hear your argument. But I don't think it'd convince many jurors... especially if it's true that Chris Brown left the car to look for a set of keys and then returned to clash with her, not necessarily inside, but then beside, the vehicle.

But I concede we are all mounting arguments based on mere rumor. We can't really project anything substantive until we know hard facts, I guess.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #483 posted 02/11/09 8:26pm

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2elijah said:




You started off your post stating Miss Fenty smacked Chris, are you sure you didn't mean Rhihanna smacked Chris and not Miss Fenty??

Rhianna IS Miss Fenty




lol Okay, I was getting her mixed up with the other girl, thinking the other girl's last name in this story was Miss Fenty.... with so many twists to the story and all. Thanks.
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Reply #484 posted 02/12/09 1:32am

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Timmy84 said:

Anyways, Bill Duke wants to add in his two cents on Chris:


what is that from?
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Reply #485 posted 02/12/09 6:08am

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R&B singer Chris Brown is reportedly facing the heat from the ongoing investigation into his alleged battery and criminal threats case in a Las Vegas suite.

According to published reports, Las Vegas' Hard Rock Hotel and Casino is said to be the spot where Brown has been hiding out since being released on $50k Sunday.

However, other sources say Brown is not allowed to leave Los Angeles due to the impending charges.

Regardless of where the singer is, he is very much under the gun when it comes to the investigation surrounding this weekend's unfortunate events.

Sources close to the LAPD are now claiming that Brown may face 'Attempted Murder' charges in addition to making 'criminal threats' due to the reported 911 call, an unidentified witness, and the alleged photos that were taken at the scene.

As reported Tuesday, investigators have been asked to present more evidence and supposedly 'dig deeper' -- including dusting the rented lamborghini the duo was in before the alleged fight for fingerprints.

Once a thorough investigation is completed, sources say the District Attorney's office will decide whether or not to press additional charges


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Reply #486 posted 02/12/09 6:14am

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"attempted murder" eek This dude is in serious trouble
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Reply #487 posted 02/12/09 6:19am

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BobGeorge909 said:

Timmy84 said:

Anyways, Bill Duke wants to add in his two cents on Chris:


what is that from?

Isn't that from Menace 2 Society?
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #488 posted 02/12/09 6:22am

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"attempted murder" eek This dude is in serious trouble


You sure ...its not mass murder .and..attempted robbery.... eek
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Reply #489 posted 02/12/09 6:24am

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LondonStyle said:

SoulAlive said:

"attempted murder" eek This dude is in serious trouble


You sure ...its not mass murder .and..attempted robbery.... eek


I think he's also a terrorist.
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Reply #490 posted 02/12/09 6:28am

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LondonStyle said:



You sure ...its not mass murder .and..attempted robbery.... eek


I think he's also a terrorist.


You are sewwwww eeeeevilll falloff
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Reply #491 posted 02/12/09 6:33am

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In other news,it's been reported Mark Geragos has been tapped to reprsent him in this case. Looks like this is going to be a doozy of a celebrity trial, folks. Feels sort of weird to me though considering he's 19 and she's 20...just seems so young to have this media circus around you at that age.
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Reply #492 posted 02/12/09 6:33am

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Ottensen said:

JustErin said:



I think he's also a terrorist.


You are sewwwww eeeeevilll falloff


What? I'm pretty sure this all means that he's spent some time in Afghanistan at an Al Qaeda training camp. Isn't the US in an orange alert over all this?

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Reply #493 posted 02/12/09 6:36am

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I am outraged that clebs questioned about this situation went on to say "Chris Brown is a good guy who made a mistake", to "I am praying for HIM', yet no one except Kanye West took a stand against domestic abuse, and actually cared about the welfare of Rihanna. The fact that he had the audacity to beat her down in public tells me this isn't the first time he has become violent with her. What message does this send to children regarding domestic violence? Does the abuser get a pass because he is famous?


I heard that Jay-Z is extremely pissed about the situation,too.Chris Brown better stay in Vegas and hide.
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Reply #494 posted 02/12/09 6:42am

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SoulAlive said:

totaldiva said:

I am outraged that clebs questioned about this situation went on to say "Chris Brown is a good guy who made a mistake", to "I am praying for HIM', yet no one except Kanye West took a stand against domestic abuse, and actually cared about the welfare of Rihanna. The fact that he had the audacity to beat her down in public tells me this isn't the first time he has become violent with her. What message does this send to children regarding domestic violence? Does the abuser get a pass because he is famous?


I heard that Jay-Z is extremely pissed about the situation,too.Chris Brown better stay in Vegas and hide.


Did you not know Jay -Z is a "real life" crime lord ....like in the James Bond films and he can order his men to take Chris Brown out in click of his fingers ...he's everywhere and nowhere.... eek if you know what i mean ..wink wink what he says on his records is not made up he's really wanted ...all over the world....
[Edited 2/12/09 6:44am]
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James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #495 posted 02/12/09 6:42am

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I'm sure she'd rather be on the cover for something different thatn this:


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Reply #496 posted 02/12/09 6:54am

SoulAlive

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I'm sure she'd rather be on the cover for something different thatn this:




Yeah,this is such a sad situation confused All of this could have been avoided if Chris had been a real man and simply walked away.He made a dumb decision and is gonna pay dearly for it.
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Reply #497 posted 02/12/09 6:58am

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JackieBlue said:

I'm sure she'd rather be on the cover for something different thatn this:





Yeah,this is such a sad situation confused All of this could have been avoided if Rihanna had been a real woman and simply walked away.SHe made a dumb decision and will pay dearly for it.
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Reply #498 posted 02/12/09 7:02am

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LondonStyle said:

SoulAlive said:



I heard that Jay-Z is extremely pissed about the situation,too.Chris Brown better stay in Vegas and hide.


Did you not know Jay -Z is a "real life" crime lord ....like in the James Bond films and he can order his men to take Chris Brown out in click of his fingers ...he's everywhere and nowhere.... eek if you know what i mean ..wink wink what he says on his records is not made up he's really wanted ...all over the world....



that's why I said that Chris had better stay in Vegas and hide lol
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Reply #499 posted 02/12/09 7:21am

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I still think they could have waited to get the whole story before they did a cover. We still don’t know Rihanna’s part in this. She could have attacked him with her stiletto! I suppose Chris isn’t saying anything because he can’t say anything at the moment. It’s just sad because even though they were bound to break up it didn’t have to end this way.
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Reply #500 posted 02/12/09 7:31am

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JackieBlue said:

I still think they could have waited to get the whole story before they did a cover. We still don’t know Rihanna’s part in this. She could have attacked him with her stiletto! I suppose Chris isn’t saying anything because he can’t say anything at the moment. It’s just sad because even though they were bound to break up it didn’t have to end this way.


You know how they are: they want a story, they don't give a fuck.

That said, feigning for dick is not always a good thing especially when it's during a bad time. disbelief
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Reply #501 posted 02/12/09 7:35am

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I still think they could have waited to get the whole story before they did a cover. We still don’t know Rihanna’s part in this. She could have attacked him with her stiletto! I suppose Chris isn’t saying anything because he can’t say anything at the moment. It’s just sad because even though they were bound to break up it didn’t have to end this way.


Oh JackieBlue ....i've been waiting for someone to come up with this biggrin two things here ...1 . like you said they should of waited but the $$$ signs made them run with the story... 2. They don't care about Women ...this is a mag thats focused in the main at Women....

I would expect in this day and age Women to come out against this Mag/Rag for going to Print on a story where they have no facts and they don't know how badly Rihanna is hurt or Chris side of the story...

Question will women rush out and buy this crap ...when the subject is so strong to be treated in a trivial manner? confused
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Reply #502 posted 02/12/09 7:46am

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LondonStyle said:

JackieBlue said:

I still think they could have waited to get the whole story before they did a cover. We still don’t know Rihanna’s part in this. She could have attacked him with her stiletto! I suppose Chris isn’t saying anything because he can’t say anything at the moment. It’s just sad because even though they were bound to break up it didn’t have to end this way.


Oh JackieBlue ....i've been waiting for someone to come up with this biggrin two things here ...1 . like you said they should of waited but the $$$ signs made them run with the story... 2. They don't care about Women ...this is a mag thats focused in the main at Women....

I would expect in this day and age Women to come out against this Mag/Rag for going to Print on a story where they have no facts and they don't know how badly Rihanna is hurt or Chris side of the story...

Question will women rush out and buy this crap ...when the subject is so strong to be treated in a trivial manner? confused


Magazines today are garbage. Any time you do a cover story saying someone is pregnant as in "Yes, I'm Pregnant!" and they're not or at least have not publicly confirmed, there's a problem. It kills me when they say ‘sources’ or ‘says a close friend’. More than likely a ‘true’ close friend wouldn’t be talking to the media.

I think women will still by this rag sheet ig not for the Rihanna story it will be for the octuplet mom.
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Reply #503 posted 02/12/09 8:08am

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LondonStyle said:



Oh JackieBlue ....i've been waiting for someone to come up with this biggrin two things here ...1 . like you said they should of waited but the $$$ signs made them run with the story... 2. They don't care about Women ...this is a mag thats focused in the main at Women....

I would expect in this day and age Women to come out against this Mag/Rag for going to Print on a story where they have no facts and they don't know how badly Rihanna is hurt or Chris side of the story...

Question will women rush out and buy this crap ...when the subject is so strong to be treated in a trivial manner? confused


Magazines today are garbage. Any time you do a cover story saying someone is pregnant as in "Yes, I'm Pregnant!" and they're not or at least have not publicly confirmed, there's a problem. It kills me when they say ‘sources’ or ‘says a close friend’. More than likely a ‘true’ close friend wouldn’t be talking to the media.

I think women will still by this rag sheet ig not for the Rihanna story it will be for the octuplet mom.
[Edited 2/12/09 7:48am]


I think alot of Woman and its sad to say it will buy it for the Rihanna story and they may well be young woman of her age range...the other issue here is the fact that these Mag/Rags ...tell lies ...they never question the Female ...why female abuse physical/verbal with your boyfriend/partner/husband/son/brother is wrong ...

They send out the message Women can Abuse men as they are "big and strong" and if they are a "real man" they should take it....very sad...brainwashing culture...

Just the same old ..."I took a beating from my man for 10 years then I walked out" story...duh....you should have walked out in the first 10 minutes sad
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Reply #504 posted 02/12/09 8:37am

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Lammastide said:

BobGeorge909 said:


what is that from?

Isn't that from Menace 2 Society?




i think u r correct sir...if u r a sir, if not, madame.
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Reply #505 posted 02/12/09 8:58am

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For pop music, the beat goes on: Chris Brown & Rihanna's risky business
Thursday, February 12th 2009, 4:00 AM

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The recent arrest of teen R&B singer Chris Brown for alleged domestic violence - and the explosion of rumors, threats and boycotts that followed within hours - serves as a grim reminder of the violence that continues to shadow and haunt black popular music.

Brown, 19, reportedly beat and threatened his girlfriend, 20-year-old R&B singer Rihanna, during an early-morning spat Sunday on a Hollywood street.

Los Angeles Police charged him with making a criminal threat, allegedly for yelling "I'm going to kill you" while striking and/or biting Rihanna.

An ugly celebrity story, to be sure, in part because Brown and Rihanna - who are both barely out of childhood, for God's sake - enjoyed genuine talent and squeaky-clean public images.

But irresponsible media outlets seem determined to turn the story into something much worse. What began as an ugly celebrity story could conceivably turn into dangerous, real-world thuggery.

It's one thing to stop playing Brown's music, as radio stations in Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Indianapolis have already done.

One Long Island station, WBLI, is holding an event tomorrow at which "Rihanna friends, supporters, fans and those who were unlucky in love" are invited to bring old love letters and other reminders of failed relationships to the studio to be shredded.

Brown has already lost at least two commercial endorsements. Wrigley's gum has dropped the singer, and so have the people who make those "Got Milk?" ads.

"The Milk Mustache campaign is taking the allegations against Chris Brown very seriously," said a stern communique from the dairy cartel.

So be it. All's fair in the kangaroo courts of commerce and popular culture.

But alongside the decision to shun an alleged batterer runs a reckless level of media incitement.

"Chris is a walking dead man. He messed with the wrong crew," reported Rolling Stone (circ. 1.4 million), citing an unnamed source. And Us Weekly (circ. 1.8 million) made the same claim, alleging that dope-dealer-turned-hip-hop-mogul Jay-Z, a mentor and friend of Rihanna, plans bloody street vengeance.

Other news organizations circulated the anonymous death threat. One of them, a celebrity Web site called Hollyscoop.com, went even further.

"We really wouldn't be surprised if Chris gets a bad beating when he resurfaces," a Web site post reads. "Note to Jay: we hear he's hiding out in Virginia, just in case that information interests you."

Nice going, idiots.

The problem with all the loose talk about beating and killing is that some people take it seriously. A little over a decade ago, what began as a war of words between California and New York rappers ended in the murders of Tupac Shakur and Chris (Notorious B.I.G.) Wallace.

Years after those tragedies, some knucklehead "artists" still insist on traveling with gun-toting henchmen, looking for trouble and often finding it.

In 1999, Jamal (Shine) Barrow, a Brooklyn rapper, fired a weapon in a crowded club after a perceived slight to his mentor, Sean (Diddy) Combs. Barrow is reading this article from the upstate Woodbourne Correctional Facility, where he is near the end of a 10-year sentence.

Bronx rapper Reminisce (Remy Ma) Smith is sitting in prison at Bedford Hills, serving an eight-year sentence for shooting an associate she thought had stolen cash from her handbag.

Brown, whose success came from a public fed up with all the gangster games, already faces a day in court and the loss of money and fans - not to mention the personal shame of being thought of as a woman-batterer.

That's as it should be - and a handful for any 19-year-old, even a rich and famous one. Egging people on with anonymous death threats, as some are doing, isn't just irresponsible, it's inexcusable.

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Reply #506 posted 02/12/09 9:28am

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LondonStyle said:

SoulAlive said:



I heard that Jay-Z is extremely pissed about the situation,too.Chris Brown better stay in Vegas and hide.


Did you not know Jay -Z is a "real life" crime lord ....like in the James Bond films and he can order his men to take Chris Brown out in click of his fingers ...he's everywhere and nowhere.... eek if you know what i mean ..wink wink what he says on his records is not made up he's really wanted ...all over the world....
[Edited 2/12/09 6:44am]

Before reports surfaced about the threats allegedly made by Jay Z ("Chris is a dead man walking"), It had already crossed my mind that Jay Z may send his henchmen to retaliate. Jay Z is now a CEO, older, and a married man. Hopefully he has more sense that to create more street violence (though in that past, I called my cousins to beat down an abusise ex of mine, and they broke his jaw and knocked out teeth). That doesn't solve the issue. Chris Brown needs his ass thrown in jail, then a mandatory anger management class, and probation for atleast 5 years. Rihanna could also use counsiling. Why would any woman allow herslef to remain in this type of relationship. Beauty and success has nothing to do with it. She may have also been raised in an abusive home. It is a cycle that needs to end.
[Edited 2/12/09 9:30am]
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Reply #507 posted 02/12/09 9:48am

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It's even more juivy. He supposedly yelled"I'm going to kill you!" to RIhannna. Turns he had a history of abuse from his stepfather. The night before he was flirting with Leona Lewis at a Grammy Party. Leona had her hand on the small of his back. This set RIhanna on fire. They(Chris&Leona) thought it was innocent.

And if you think Jay-Z is bad he's got Def Jam which includes RUssel SImmonds, LLcollJ ,Beyonce,and her friend Kanye to run from. THat and you've got Rihanna'd family and even RIhanna who might take action CHris Brown/
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Reply #508 posted 02/12/09 9:53am

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totaldiva said:

LondonStyle said:



Did you not know Jay -Z is a "real life" crime lord ....like in the James Bond films and he can order his men to take Chris Brown out in click of his fingers ...he's everywhere and nowhere.... eek if you know what i mean ..wink wink what he says on his records is not made up he's really wanted ...all over the world....
[Edited 2/12/09 6:44am]

Before reports surfaced about the threats allegedly made by Jay Z ("Chris is a dead man walking"), It had already crossed my mind that Jay Z may send his henchmen to retaliate. Jay Z is now a CEO, older, and a married man. Hopefully he has more sense that to create more street violence (though in that past, I called my cousins to beat down an abusise ex of mine, and they broke his jaw and knocked out teeth). That doesn't solve the issue. Chris Brown needs his ass thrown in jail, then a mandatory anger management class, and probation for atleast 5 years. Rihanna could also use counsiling. Why would any woman allow herslef to remain in this type of relationship. Beauty and success has nothing to do with it. She may have also been raised in an abusive home. It is a cycle that needs to end.
[Edited 2/12/09 9:30am]

That's just it. More violence is not going to stop the violence. If Chris is guilty and it's looking like he is, then he needs to go to jail, pure and simple. This story is not going away anytime soon so we'll learn more stuff as the days and weeks go by.
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Reply #509 posted 02/12/09 9:56am

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After seeing pics of her.....Chris is going down 4 this one folks.
I hope those pics are not real.....
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