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Reply #1260 posted 03/03/08 1:31pm

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Rene was on the set for the Dangerous videos? How come I never saw him on the Dangerous short films tape then?
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Reply #1261 posted 03/03/08 3:45pm

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Rene was on the set for the Dangerous videos? How come I never saw him on the Dangerous short films tape then?

NO he wasn't.. its just rene seem to have some fans on the org... who think he controlled janet.. and made her and michael successful....

RENE didn't do anything...
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Reply #1262 posted 03/03/08 4:19pm

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uhhh... yes he was boo boo you can clearly see him in the behind the scenes footage of "In the Closet" taking pictures

check ya facts --ooookkaay talk to the hand


and no I didn't say he made Michael anything
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Reply #1263 posted 03/03/08 4:33pm

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uhhh... yes he was boo boo you can clearly see him in the behind the scenes footage of "In the Closet" taking pictures

check ya facts --ooookkaay talk to the hand


and no I didn't say he made Michael anything

who cares if he took pics...

rene had ZERO talent.. he happen to strike a deal when he married janet... and didn't have to work.. so he had all the time in the world to sit on his but and think of ideas.. ANYONE CAN DO THAT...

janet was crazy for marrying that man...
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Reply #1264 posted 03/03/08 9:42pm

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TotalAlisa said:

alphastreet said:

Rene was on the set for the Dangerous videos? How come I never saw him on the Dangerous short films tape then?

NO he wasn't.. its just rene seem to have some fans on the org... who think he controlled janet.. and made her and michael successful....

RENE didn't do anything...


I can understand them speaking for Janet, even if I don't agree all the way, but MICHAEL??? that is freaking ridiculous!
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Reply #1265 posted 03/04/08 12:46am

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tyra love some janet

i love some janet

i see a connection
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Reply #1266 posted 03/04/08 4:46am

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Some of you really mislead this album...This is *NOT* a dance album...its the same ole same ole Janet album gussied up in a different dress. Just like the rest of her recent catalog there are way way way too many damn slow songs...they weigh the album down big time.

this album is a tad better then 20YO and Damita Jo...but not by much. confused

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Reply #1267 posted 03/04/08 6:34am

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TotalAlisa said:

Evvy said:

uhhh... yes he was boo boo you can clearly see him in the behind the scenes footage of "In the Closet" taking pictures

check ya facts --ooookkaay talk to the hand


and no I didn't say he made Michael anything

who cares if he took pics...

rene had ZERO talent.. he happen to strike a deal when he married janet... and didn't have to work.. so he had all the time in the world to sit on his but and think of ideas.. ANYONE CAN DO THAT...

janet was crazy for marrying that man...



I can see him being controlling. I watched the Making of The Knowledge and he was acting like he was the directro..telling them what should be seen and stuff. However if his commitment to The Velvet Rope is as much as it says his part is on the album notes itself, he had some good ideas.

Seems there hasnt been a theme for Janet other than Sex since she broke up with him. It's like "ok Janet what is this album about?" All For You - being free, Damita Jo - being free , 20 YO - being free , Discipline is supposed to have a meaning, but it clearly is not shown on the album.
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Reply #1268 posted 03/04/08 6:38am

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sosgemini said:

Some of you really mislead this album...This is *NOT* a dance album...its the same ole same ole Janet album gussied up in a different dress. Just like the rest of her recent catalog there are way way way too many damn slow songs...they weigh the album down big time.

this album is a tad better then 20YO and Damita Jo...but not by much. confused

return my arse. mad



I think the first four songs on it are superb. Completely blew me away. I loved Feedback - the catchiest lead-off single she's released in years.

But you're right, Ms. Dern-Harper, there are too many ballads and they're pretty dire. I do prefer Discipline to the last two albums, but it's all because of the opening four songs.
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Reply #1269 posted 03/04/08 6:55am

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keep listening- you'll be drawn into the slow songs as well
music
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Reply #1270 posted 03/04/08 10:04am

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Janet on Tyra Today 3/4
Jimmy Kimmel Live 3/5 15:05 am
Rock Wit U video premires on 106 and Park 3/5
SNL Musical Guest on 3/15
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Reply #1271 posted 03/04/08 10:34am

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paisleypark4 said:

TotalAlisa said:


who cares if he took pics...

rene had ZERO talent.. he happen to strike a deal when he married janet... and didn't have to work.. so he had all the time in the world to sit on his but and think of ideas.. ANYONE CAN DO THAT...

janet was crazy for marrying that man...



I can see him being controlling. I watched the Making of The Knowledge and he was acting like he was the directro..telling them what should be seen and stuff. However if his commitment to The Velvet Rope is as much as it says his part is on the album notes itself, he had some good ideas.

Seems there hasnt been a theme for Janet other than Sex since she broke up with him. It's like "ok Janet what is this album about?" All For You - being free, Damita Jo - being free , 20 YO - being free , Discipline is supposed to have a meaning, but it clearly is not shown on the album.

I agree.. that sex theme is so tired and old.. she has been doing that since the janet album.. and it makes me think janet is unintelligent.. brainless.. and airhead..

janet seriously is not that sexy anymore... hardly any guys my age thinks she is
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Reply #1272 posted 03/04/08 11:07am

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My version of Discipline consists of
Feedback
Rock Wit U
2Nite
So Much Betta
What’s Ur Name


And even still I haven’t listened to those songs since maybe last Wed or Thurs.
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Reply #1273 posted 03/04/08 11:16am

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TotalAlisa said:

paisleypark4 said:




I can see him being controlling. I watched the Making of The Knowledge and he was acting like he was the directro..telling them what should be seen and stuff. However if his commitment to The Velvet Rope is as much as it says his part is on the album notes itself, he had some good ideas.

Seems there hasnt been a theme for Janet other than Sex since she broke up with him. It's like "ok Janet what is this album about?" All For You - being free, Damita Jo - being free , 20 YO - being free , Discipline is supposed to have a meaning, but it clearly is not shown on the album.

I agree.. that sex theme is so tired and old.. she has been doing that since the janet album.. and it makes me think janet is unintelligent.. brainless.. and airhead..

janet seriously is not that sexy anymore... hardly any guys my age thinks she is

Damn! lol lol lol
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Reply #1274 posted 03/04/08 11:31am

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if I was a gay man I don't know if i'd think Janet was sexy either
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Reply #1275 posted 03/04/08 11:35am

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purplecam said:

TotalAlisa said:


I agree.. that sex theme is so tired and old.. she has been doing that since the janet album.. and it makes me think janet is unintelligent.. brainless.. and airhead..

janet seriously is not that sexy anymore... hardly any guys my age thinks she is

Damn! lol lol lol

janet is just NOT sexy... she is beautiful... but NOT sexy... she doesn't have that sex appeal anymore.... but she is a gorgeous lady

and she is thinning herself out, has already lost her integrity, she lost some of her celeb status after the superbowl... and people just don't get excited and interested in her like they used to...

its impossible for that airhead to make one album without sex themes.. that is all she knows is sex and music...
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Reply #1276 posted 03/04/08 12:14pm

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TotalAlisa said:

purplecam said:


Damn! lol lol lol

janet is just NOT sexy... she is beautiful... but NOT sexy... she doesn't have that sex appeal anymore.... but she is a gorgeous lady

and she is thinning herself out, has already lost her integrity, she lost some of her celeb status after the superbowl... and people just don't get excited and interested in her like they used to...

its impossible for that airhead to make one album without sex themes.. that is all she knows is sex and music...

The same can be said about almost any star/singer over 40. It's like when a person gets over 40, the public just doesn't seem to perceive them the same.

Janet has always (and will continue) to be sexy in my eyes and the eyes of most men over the age of 30. 10 years ago, almost any teenager would find her sexy, but those guys have grown up. Since she's over 40, most teens probably wouldn't see her as a "sex object" like they would someone like Britney or Christina.

I think if Janet wants to continue to have a lucrative career in music, she will have to put out SOLID albums for the next few years. She might should consider going into acting full time. I'm sure, she'd be great on a show like Dirty Sexy Money or Ugly Betty.

As for the music part, Sex songs are what she thinks she is good at. I don't mind it as long as the song is good. My only complaint is that she would have continued to do different types of albums (lyrically especially). I think with her releasing albums like RN, Control, Janet, and VR; we always got something different...it wasn't all sex. I think so many are fed up with the sex stuff...especially after the Superbowl incident. I think she tried to make a "club" album with Discipline, but ended up making an updated version of "All For You" (which I don't think is a bad thing).

As for Janet losing her "celebrity" status, I would TOTALLY disagree. Maybe in the public's eye, Janet is not as popular, but in Hollywood circles, she is as big as ever. In the black media, most would consider Janet as apart of Hollywood royalty. In the mainstream media, she is still well respected. She continues to get high ratings when she does shows like Ellen, Oprah, etc., so I wouldn't got there at all.
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Reply #1277 posted 03/04/08 12:57pm

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daPrettyman said:

TotalAlisa said:


janet is just NOT sexy... she is beautiful... but NOT sexy... she doesn't have that sex appeal anymore.... but she is a gorgeous lady

and she is thinning herself out, has already lost her integrity, she lost some of her celeb status after the superbowl... and people just don't get excited and interested in her like they used to...

its impossible for that airhead to make one album without sex themes.. that is all she knows is sex and music...

The same can be said about almost any star/singer over 40. It's like when a person gets over 40, the public just doesn't seem to perceive them the same.

Janet has always (and will continue) to be sexy in my eyes and the eyes of most men over the age of 30. 10 years ago, almost any teenager would find her sexy, but those guys have grown up. Since she's over 40, most teens probably wouldn't see her as a "sex object" like they would someone like Britney or Christina.

I think if Janet wants to continue to have a lucrative career in music, she will have to put out SOLID albums for the next few years. She might should consider going into acting full time. I'm sure, she'd be great on a show like Dirty Sexy Money or Ugly Betty.

As for the music part, Sex songs are what she thinks she is good at. I don't mind it as long as the song is good. My only complaint is that she would have continued to do different types of albums (lyrically especially). I think with her releasing albums like RN, Control, Janet, and VR; we always got something different...it wasn't all sex. I think so many are fed up with the sex stuff...especially after the Superbowl incident. I think she tried to make a "club" album with Discipline, but ended up making an updated version of "All For You" (which I don't think is a bad thing).

As for Janet losing her "celebrity" status, I would TOTALLY disagree. Maybe in the public's eye, Janet is not as popular, but in Hollywood circles, she is as big as ever. In the black media, most would consider Janet as apart of Hollywood royalty. In the mainstream media, she is still well respected. She continues to get high ratings when she does shows like Ellen, Oprah, etc., so I wouldn't got there at all.
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janet might think sex songs are good for her.. but i really believe she makes music for herself and NOT to entertain others...

does this woman know how to sing or talk about anything other then sex... she must have a lot of free time on her hands and able to sit around having sex all the time. and NOT even talking or reading a book or even watching the news...

she has truly lost integrity.. you would think she had sex so many times.. it would be boring or old news...

she sings about sex like she is "virgin touched for the very first time"...
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Reply #1278 posted 03/04/08 1:01pm

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HITS daily double is claiming only 178k in the first week - but still number 1.
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Reply #1279 posted 03/04/08 1:18pm

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TotalAlisa said:

daPrettyman said:


The same can be said about almost any star/singer over 40. It's like when a person gets over 40, the public just doesn't seem to perceive them the same.

Janet has always (and will continue) to be sexy in my eyes and the eyes of most men over the age of 30. 10 years ago, almost any teenager would find her sexy, but those guys have grown up. Since she's over 40, most teens probably wouldn't see her as a "sex object" like they would someone like Britney or Christina.

I think if Janet wants to continue to have a lucrative career in music, she will have to put out SOLID albums for the next few years. She might should consider going into acting full time. I'm sure, she'd be great on a show like Dirty Sexy Money or Ugly Betty.

As for the music part, Sex songs are what she thinks she is good at. I don't mind it as long as the song is good. My only complaint is that she would have continued to do different types of albums (lyrically especially). I think with her releasing albums like RN, Control, Janet, and VR; we always got something different...it wasn't all sex. I think so many are fed up with the sex stuff...especially after the Superbowl incident. I think she tried to make a "club" album with Discipline, but ended up making an updated version of "All For You" (which I don't think is a bad thing).

As for Janet losing her "celebrity" status, I would TOTALLY disagree. Maybe in the public's eye, Janet is not as popular, but in Hollywood circles, she is as big as ever. In the black media, most would consider Janet as apart of Hollywood royalty. In the mainstream media, she is still well respected. She continues to get high ratings when she does shows like Ellen, Oprah, etc., so I wouldn't got there at all.
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janet might think sex songs are good for her.. but i really believe she makes music for herself and NOT to entertain others...

does this woman know how to sing or talk about anything other then sex... she must have a lot of free time on her hands and able to sit around having sex all the time. and NOT even talking or reading a book or even watching the news...

she has truly lost integrity.. you would think she had sex so many times.. it would be boring or old news...

she sings about sex like she is "virgin touched for the very first time"...

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Reply #1280 posted 03/04/08 1:23pm

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badujunkie said:

HITS daily double is claiming only 178k in the first week - but still number 1.

Congrats to Janet for her first number 1 since All For You. Go Janet!!!
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Reply #1281 posted 03/04/08 1:39pm

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TotalAlisa said:

daPrettyman said:


The same can be said about almost any star/singer over 40. It's like when a person gets over 40, the public just doesn't seem to perceive them the same.

Janet has always (and will continue) to be sexy in my eyes and the eyes of most men over the age of 30. 10 years ago, almost any teenager would find her sexy, but those guys have grown up. Since she's over 40, most teens probably wouldn't see her as a "sex object" like they would someone like Britney or Christina.

I think if Janet wants to continue to have a lucrative career in music, she will have to put out SOLID albums for the next few years. She might should consider going into acting full time. I'm sure, she'd be great on a show like Dirty Sexy Money or Ugly Betty.

As for the music part, Sex songs are what she thinks she is good at. I don't mind it as long as the song is good. My only complaint is that she would have continued to do different types of albums (lyrically especially). I think with her releasing albums like RN, Control, Janet, and VR; we always got something different...it wasn't all sex. I think so many are fed up with the sex stuff...especially after the Superbowl incident. I think she tried to make a "club" album with Discipline, but ended up making an updated version of "All For You" (which I don't think is a bad thing).

As for Janet losing her "celebrity" status, I would TOTALLY disagree. Maybe in the public's eye, Janet is not as popular, but in Hollywood circles, she is as big as ever. In the black media, most would consider Janet as apart of Hollywood royalty. In the mainstream media, she is still well respected. She continues to get high ratings when she does shows like Ellen, Oprah, etc., so I wouldn't got there at all.
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janet might think sex songs are good for her.. but i really believe she makes music for herself and NOT to entertain others...

does this woman know how to sing or talk about anything other then sex... she must have a lot of free time on her hands and able to sit around having sex all the time. and NOT even talking or reading a book or even watching the news...

she has truly lost integrity.. you would think she had sex so many times.. it would be boring or old news...

she sings about sex like she is "virgin touched for the very first time"...

Well this is sure not the end for her

btw : Rock With You premires TOMORROW ON BET

She said the song "Rough" may appear on the next album..whatever that is.

The sex issue...Yes its worn OUT! Even Ciara and Beyonce aint talkin about it at all. I know she aint never gonna read this but, she has got to be the only 40 year old woman still talkin about it like her main fans havent done it yet.
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Reply #1282 posted 03/04/08 2:05pm

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TotalAlisa said:

daPrettyman said:


The same can be said about almost any star/singer over 40. It's like when a person gets over 40, the public just doesn't seem to perceive them the same.

Janet has always (and will continue) to be sexy in my eyes and the eyes of most men over the age of 30. 10 years ago, almost any teenager would find her sexy, but those guys have grown up. Since she's over 40, most teens probably wouldn't see her as a "sex object" like they would someone like Britney or Christina.

I think if Janet wants to continue to have a lucrative career in music, she will have to put out SOLID albums for the next few years. She might should consider going into acting full time. I'm sure, she'd be great on a show like Dirty Sexy Money or Ugly Betty.

As for the music part, Sex songs are what she thinks she is good at. I don't mind it as long as the song is good. My only complaint is that she would have continued to do different types of albums (lyrically especially). I think with her releasing albums like RN, Control, Janet, and VR; we always got something different...it wasn't all sex. I think so many are fed up with the sex stuff...especially after the Superbowl incident. I think she tried to make a "club" album with Discipline, but ended up making an updated version of "All For You" (which I don't think is a bad thing).

As for Janet losing her "celebrity" status, I would TOTALLY disagree. Maybe in the public's eye, Janet is not as popular, but in Hollywood circles, she is as big as ever. In the black media, most would consider Janet as apart of Hollywood royalty. In the mainstream media, she is still well respected. She continues to get high ratings when she does shows like Ellen, Oprah, etc., so I wouldn't got there at all.
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janet might think sex songs are good for her.. but i really believe she makes music for herself and NOT to entertain others...

does this woman know how to sing or talk about anything other then sex... she must have a lot of free time on her hands and able to sit around having sex all the time. and NOT even talking or reading a book or even watching the news...

she has truly lost integrity.. you would think she had sex so many times.. it would be boring or old news...

she sings about sex like she is "virgin touched for the very first time"...

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Reply #1283 posted 03/04/08 2:29pm

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I really don't know if there are enough words to describe how much Tyra gets on my nerves. Janet, however, looks beautiful.
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Reply #1284 posted 03/04/08 2:40pm

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JackieBlue said:

I really don't know if there are enough words to describe how much Tyra gets on my nerves. Janet, however, looks beautiful.

I haven't seen it yet, but Tyra works my nerves also. I guess she is trying to be Janet again. Is she dancing with Janet?
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Reply #1285 posted 03/04/08 4:36pm

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JackieBlue said:

I really don't know if there are enough words to describe how much Tyra gets on my nerves. Janet, however, looks beautiful.

I haven't seen it yet, but Tyra works my nerves also. I guess she is trying to be Janet again. Is she dancing with Janet?

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Janet Jackson's new CD, Discipline, is the #1 album in America!

The record is projected to have sold 178,000 copies.

This is Janet's first #1 album since 2001's All For You.

Congrats, bitch!


There was one nay-sayer who got a thread locked...well here is your "proof" Discipline is doing well.

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Reply #1287 posted 03/04/08 7:37pm

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paisleypark4 said:

TotalAlisa said:


who cares if he took pics...

rene had ZERO talent.. he happen to strike a deal when he married janet... and didn't have to work.. so he had all the time in the world to sit on his but and think of ideas.. ANYONE CAN DO THAT...

janet was crazy for marrying that man...



I can see him being controlling. I watched the Making of The Knowledge and he was acting like he was the directro..telling them what should be seen and stuff. However if his commitment to The Velvet Rope is as much as it says his part is on the album notes itself, he had some good ideas.

Seems there hasnt been a theme for Janet other than Sex since she broke up with him. It's like "ok Janet what is this album about?" All For You - being free, Damita Jo - being free , 20 YO - being free , Discipline is supposed to have a meaning, but it clearly is not shown on the album.


I think to some extent they all have slightly different concepts/themes, but they just aren't very strong and/or certainly not a well defined as something like RN1814).

AFY-Freedom from a bad relationship

DJ-Different aspects of Janet's personality (not well defined at all)

20YO-Janet loves JD!

Discipline-JD LOVES JD! He is writing loves songs to himself about himself! Seriously, maybe it's submissiveness? It's maybe not the concept, but the creation of his album is all about Janet being disciplined by men (as songwriters, as CEOs, etc.).

Can't wait for Janet to be on SNL. Even thought it did nothing for her to promote on there, I thought she was excellent when she appeared on there for the rounds on DJ.

As for "Rough" appearing anywhere, it it does, I assume it will be a Virgin greatest hits set (would she have any say in this at all?). I doubt she will seriously record it for a new album.
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daPrettyman said:

JackieBlue said:

I really don't know if there are enough words to describe how much Tyra gets on my nerves. Janet, however, looks beautiful.

I haven't seen it yet, but Tyra works my nerves also. I guess she is trying to be Janet again. Is she dancing with Janet?


Dancing with Janet and much more. Even smelling Janet. disbelief If she could just dial it down a notch or ten. But Janet was a real sport and much livelier and talkative than on Larry King.
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Reply #1289 posted 03/04/08 10:05pm

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VinnyM27 said:

paisleypark4 said:




I can see him being controlling. I watched the Making of The Knowledge and he was acting like he was the directro..telling them what should be seen and stuff. However if his commitment to The Velvet Rope is as much as it says his part is on the album notes itself, he had some good ideas.

Seems there hasnt been a theme for Janet other than Sex since she broke up with him. It's like "ok Janet what is this album about?" All For You - being free, Damita Jo - being free , 20 YO - being free , Discipline is supposed to have a meaning, but it clearly is not shown on the album.


I think to some extent they all have slightly different concepts/themes, but they just aren't very strong and/or certainly not a well defined as something like RN1814).

AFY-Freedom from a bad relationship

DJ-Different aspects of Janet's personality (not well defined at all)

20YO-Janet loves JD!

Discipline-JD LOVES JD! He is writing loves songs to himself about himself! Seriously, maybe it's submissiveness? It's maybe not the concept, but the creation of his album is all about Janet being disciplined by men (as songwriters, as CEOs, etc.).

Can't wait for Janet to be on SNL. Even thought it did nothing for her to promote on there, I thought she was excellent when she appeared on there for the rounds on DJ.

As for "Rough" appearing anywhere, it it does, I assume it will be a Virgin greatest hits set (would she have any say in this at all?). I doubt she will seriously record it for a new album.



i thought it was a very brave move to do "Strawberry Bounce" on SNL. I for one was scared of her doing a "strip tease that bring u to your knees" at 40. disbelief How are young girls supposed to look UP to that?

Disciplined by men? I wholefully agree. It seems the title was made after the song..however The theme of discipline is only showed on the s&m track, and the s&m clothing... I thought there would be songs about being more in control of your life...but there were none.

Enjoy was the last 'positive message'-like song Janet done and it took me back to The Velvet Rope.
People acting like machines
Scared to live their dreams
Know what I mean?

I just enjoy...


THAT is the Janet I want!!!!
[Edited 3/4/08 22:06pm]
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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