Just to clarify. I'm not defending Prince's actions. I think he's making a big mistake. Just like the name change was a mistake. I just think it's wrong for people to use it to score cheap points for MJ. I can assure you when Mike loses Neverland (which he will) I won't be using that as an excuse to big up Prince. It will have nothing to do with Prince.

midnightmover said:

I agree. Maybe MJ & Prince can learn from one another in different aspects in there careers.

midnightmover said:

I'm a MJ fan 4 life, always have, always will be. Through the days of Thriller to the days of his trial and today. True fans don't wait for their favorite artist to put out new material or go on tour. I call that a bandwagon fan. I really don't care if he loses Neverland, so what, that's his personal business. I don't care if he's "broke", or being sued by this person and that person, again, or how his kids look, that's his personal business.

But I have to say that comparing or even mentioning MJ's name in what's really a Prince situation and has nothing to do with MJ is wrong. What Prince does is what he does, it has nothing to do with MJ, so stop the comparison, or who has the better fanbase or who treat their fans better, blah blah blah.

On a side note, I never understood the Prince/MJ comparison to begin with, they have nothing in common except they're the same age. I always that Prince and Rick James was a better comparison, mirror images, released their debut albums in '78, toured together had girl groups (V6/A6, MJG) band (Revolution/NPG, SCB) groups (Time/Process & the DRs), female protegees (Teena/Sheila), both of them great writers and producers, while IMO, MJ had more in common with Lionel Richie, groups with Motown in the 70s, toured and wrote together, successful solo pop artist in the 80s, etc.

EmbattledWarrior said:

i wish he could!!!

if MJ got back to form and make me feel as in 83 id be so happy and a number one fan. all the MJ vs Prince thing again. i would love it so bad!

Has MJ just subtly referenced the Prince/Fans situation?

From neverland at KOP Board:


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Ellie said:[quote]Has MJ just subtly referenced the Prince/Fans situation?

From neverland at KOP Board:

[quote]As many of you know Michael attended the Jesse Jackson b'day party 2 days ago (11-09-07).
I spoke with him and he asked me to share the following with all the fans:
He wants you to know that he loves all the fans very much. He is writing and working a lot on his music. And he also wants all the fans to know that we are his energy and inspiration, and that we should all feel free to express ourselves.

I won't be able to check the net very often so i won't be replying to any posts that follow, sorry about that.

UH OH! Ellie's instigating!

Oi, I just didn't quote properly!!

It does sound like he is making alluding to Prince's latest bitch fit.

This is why I love MJ so much...

When's the last time Prince has said anything even remotely as lovely as that?

Yeah I love the respect MJ has for his fans. The bold face lies about his plastic surgery. Ten years after a multi-million dollar settlement to one boy, he's on the telly trying to convince the world that sharing your bed with other people's teenage boys is the best thing ever.
If MJ fans really believe that breathy "I love you all" that MJ drops after every acceptance speech, then they are living in a bigger fantasy world than MJ.
On the other hand, Prince plays a blistering two hour live show, an unbelievbale after show and has the balls to say kiss my ass if that ain't enough for your greedy selves. Shows at Paisley Park, Celebrations, concerts all over the world, from small clubs to arenas and stadiums and tons of great music. Yeah, Prince sure treats his fans horribly.
Meanwhile, MJ fans wait 10 years for an album that Justin Timberlake could do in his sleep. Oh yeah, I forgot. Though he doesn't know you from Adam, MJ loves you all.

shygirl said:

of course you're right darling....of course

Justin Timberlake isn't on the level of Michael or P*****. We won't remember him in 20 years. I thought you didn't like pop music anyway....hmmmmm....
Oh yeah.....P***** would like to speak with you about your avatar just kidding
Also, we're talking about Prince and Michael's treatment of their fans, not doing personal attacks on MJ that P fams can't help but do whenever P***** and Michael are mentioned in the same thread

Before the fams ambush this thread and it gets locked, here's the deal:

Michael, along with Madonna and every other pop artist respects their fans. They don't go attacking them and lets them express themselves. P***** doesn't and he needs to learn from his peers. PERIOD
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electrorock said:

Clearly you don't and can't generalize MJ fans, because a good number of us hate when he lip syncs, since the last decade.

TheWifey said:

No. Everyone found him attractive. Found, not find

midnightmover said:

I don't know, its kind of hard to do interviews when you're on trial for child molestation.

(No, Ed Bradley doesn't count).

That and, I got to comment on that "exactly, Prince doesn't make his fans wait years for music..."

Michael Jackson is an artist, and he releases his projects when hes ready to, and works on his martial. How does he "make" his fans wait? Michael Jackson does not work for the fans. Its not his job to do what they want him to do. If it takes him years or months to do anything, so be it. He's not making his fans do anything, he isn't doing us a favor.

<----- moonwalk, hoe.


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bboy87 said:[quote]Ellie said:[quote]Has MJ just subtly referenced the Prince/Fans situation?

From neverland at KOP Board:



Aww, I truly love that MJ appreciate his fans. He knows his fans is his bread and butter. He knows, if it wasn't for his fans MJ would not be as big as he is today. To have a conscious about that is a good thing.

shygirl said:

Bravo! Feel better now? Listen, I don't give a care if MJ takes tweny years to make an album. I'm beyond content with what he's made thus far. MJ doesn't like to tour. He's said this many times. He has a right and the right to tour whenever, if ever he sees fit. When you or one studies (if some desire) his early footage up until his last album, that man has nothing to prove. Not even to those who thinks he ain't shit! Feel what you feel, cause I am!
Like I've said before, I'm beyond content with what MJ has bestowed upon his fans. And, unfortunately for us Prince fans, which are allot of MJ fans I'm quite thankful I can go to youtube whenever the hell I want and see MJ videos of him in all his magnificent.
Glad Prince put on a great show! He's a wonderful entertain. I happen to be one of the fans that don't have to build him up in order to tear another artist down. It's rediculous for lack of a better word.
I so enjoy listening to both their music.
MJ is be man reguardless. But, hey if you must-feel free to dig up more stuff about the man (MJ) that has absolutely nothing to do with his talent in order to give Prince his shine. I was under the impression that Prince was shining anyway. He's proven he doesn't need his fans to defend him or agree with him. He doesn't give a damn about that! He wants and expects certain things whenever he wants and expects them reguardless of his fans feelings.
Glad to know and witness that MJ is more appreciative and humble.
So, go ahead with the digging of the serguries and Justine Timberlake importance or the lack thereof!
It matters not, really due to the fact the Justin Timberlake and even his Royal Badness himself has yet to even attempt to accomplish what MJ did years, upon years ago.
But, have at it with his surgeries and lack of music release.
He never has to make another record.
it's a wonderful thing when a artist does music and tours whenever they choose to and not when they have to.
Love that MJ!

Aww, please excuse the typos. Didn't mean to call Justin, Justine.
And surgeries, serguries.
But, I meant every single word I wrote.

shygirl said:

You must be smoking some potent shit , especially mentioning Justin fucking Timberlake, please puff and pass.

And also, and this goes for anybody on the org, show me the link or transcript in where MJ mentions it's okay to share your bed with teenage boys. Please show me that link because he never said that. He never said he slept with many boys, only boys. Prove me wrong, and I'll shut up about it.

floetcist said:

Trial ended two and a half years ago, honey.

midnightmover said:

Did you read what I quoted in bold? You said 2004. Trial = 2003-2005.

And I'm sorry, you don't just go through the turmoil and than turn around & go back to interviews like that. And why, for what reason? Maybe you didn't realize it, but the day he was vindicated he came out that court room literally drained and void of any motion, and he lost a lot of weight. You don't just do interviews after that

floetcist said:

Uhhh no. I said since 2004. S-I-N-C-E. "Since". You should try reading once in a while. It will make your life a lot easier.

As for his state afterwards, let's be honest here. Michael was hardly a busy bee even before the trial. He couldn't even summon up the enthusiasm to write one new track for The Number Ones album in 2003. Instead he relied on R Kelly's leftovers. The truth is he's been loafing ever since the late 90s.

Wasn't this thread about fan treatment?

midnightmover said:

It was a greatest hits album with an extra track...and this is important or relevant because...?

Since 2004, after 2004, before 2004, though 2004, whatever. You don't do interviews after going through what MJ had. And to talk about what, exactly? He is not obliged to do interviews.

floetcist said:

Girl, you really do have a hard time grasping a point, don't you? It's relevant because it's an example of him not having the drive he used to have. In case you didn't notice we've been contrasting how active P is with how inactive MJ is. If he was in the zone he would have written that extra track himself. That's the point.

As for the interviews, no-one said he was obliged. The point is it's another example of how deprived MJ fans are of anything new. Performances, albums, interviews. They ain't got jack. They're just getting their first crumbs now in years with Ebony and VF. That's why I'm saying it's better to be a P fan nowadays than an MJ fan, regardless of his silly threats. That, lest you forget, is the point.
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mike jack foreverr
haters are loozerss!!!!

whatsgoingon said:

um...i dont wanna burst ur bubble but....those cartoons actually had nothing to do with the real J5. the only connection they had was when one of their songs were used.