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Reply #180 posted 04/09/05 11:25am

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heartbeatocean said:

What it lacks in some areas, it compensates for in others. wink

Which city are you seeing her in again? What tickets did you score?
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Reply #181 posted 04/09/05 11:28am

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From listening to the setlists, it's clear the solo tour is for her more intricate, intimate work. I'm very excited. I bet the second leg of the tour with band will be much different.
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Reply #182 posted 04/09/05 11:31am

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heartbeatocean said:

From listening to the setlists, it's clear the solo tour is for her more intricate, intimate work. I'm very excited. I bet the second leg of the tour with band will be much different.

Me too. And I'm excited for that. I've only ever seen her solo.
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Reply #183 posted 04/09/05 11:31am

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GangstaFam said:

heartbeatocean said:

What it lacks in some areas, it compensates for in others. wink

Which city are you seeing her in again? What tickets did you score?


San Francisco. I got upper orchestra seats row bb on the floor.
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Reply #184 posted 04/09/05 11:35am

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heartbeatocean said:

San Francisco. I got upper orchestra seats row bb on the floor.

excellent. thumbs up!
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Reply #185 posted 04/09/05 11:39am

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GangstaFam said:

heartbeatocean said:

San Francisco. I got upper orchestra seats row bb on the floor.

excellent. thumbs up!


dancing jig
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Reply #186 posted 04/09/05 11:50am

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Here's what she did in New York tonight.

Original Sinsuality
Blood Roses
Sweet The Sting
Icicle
Take To The Sky
Toast
Bells For Her

Growin' Up (Bruce Springsteen cover)
Vincent (Starry Starry Night) - (Don McLean cover)

Parasol
Seaside
Happy Phantom
Jamaica Inn
Yes, Anastasia
The Beekeeper

1st Encore

Winter
Cooling

2nd Encore

The Power Of Orange Knickers
Putting The Damage On


She sounded great last night, but I liked the setlists more from the other cities that were posted here. (We got suckey covers.) Nevertheless, this is a tour that shouldn't be missed. Just her and four different piano/organ/keyboard combinations. Some of them were played at the same time of course. My fave track was "Take To The Sky".
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Reply #187 posted 04/09/05 11:53am

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sextonseven said:

She sounded great last night, but I liked the setlists more from the other cities that were posted here. (We got suckey covers.) Nevertheless, this is a tour that shouldn't be missed. Just her and four different piano/organ/keyboard combinations. Some of them were played at the same time of course. My fave track was "Take To The Sky".

You got my 2 favorite Tori songs in one show, so I am quite jealous!
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Reply #188 posted 04/09/05 12:14pm

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sextonseven said:

She sounded great last night, but I liked the setlists more from the other cities that were posted here. (We got suckey covers.) Nevertheless, this is a tour that shouldn't be missed. Just her and four different piano/organ/keyboard combinations. Some of them were played at the same time of course. My fave track was "Take To The Sky".

You got my 2 favorite Tori songs in one show, so I am quite jealous!


Which ones are those? "Blood Roses" and "Putting The Damage On" sounded pretty good also. Everything sounded good actually--even the songs from the new album that I don't like. It's just the song selection didn't leave me feeling like 'wow, I can't believe she did that!' neutral
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Reply #189 posted 04/09/05 12:15pm

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sextonseven said:

Which ones are those? "Blood Roses" and "Putting The Damage On" sounded pretty good also. Everything sounded good actually--even the songs from the new album that I don't like. It's just the song selection didn't leave me feeling like 'wow, I can't believe she did that!' neutral

Maybe cuz we've been posting setlists since the beginning.

My 2 faves are "Cooling" and "Putting the Damage On".
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Reply #190 posted 04/09/05 12:25pm

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sextonseven said:

Which ones are those? "Blood Roses" and "Putting The Damage On" sounded pretty good also. Everything sounded good actually--even the songs from the new album that I don't like. It's just the song selection didn't leave me feeling like 'wow, I can't believe she did that!' neutral

Maybe cuz we've been posting setlists since the beginning.

My 2 faves are "Cooling" and "Putting the Damage On".


Yeah, I tried not to look (except for a quick peek) and that's why I haven't posted on this thread for several days, but then this morning I finally looked at the other setlists in full and felt slightly disappointed. This doesn't happen when I see her on multiple consecutive nights like in the past when one night's setlist makes up for another.
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Reply #191 posted 04/09/05 12:27pm

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sextonseven said:

Yeah, I tried not to look (except for a quick peek) and that's why I haven't posted on this thread for several days, but then this morning I finally looked at the other setlists in full and felt slightly disappointed. This doesn't happen when I see her on multiple consecutive nights like in the past when one night's setlist makes up for another.

Come to Detroit. mr.green
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Reply #192 posted 04/09/05 12:36pm

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sextonseven said:

Yeah, I tried not to look (except for a quick peek) and that's why I haven't posted on this thread for several days, but then this morning I finally looked at the other setlists in full and felt slightly disappointed. This doesn't happen when I see her on multiple consecutive nights like in the past when one night's setlist makes up for another.

Come to Detroit. mr.green


Yeah, right! Maybe if I wasn't a one man art department for a magazine that's printing it's biggest issue of the year this month. lol
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Reply #193 posted 04/09/05 12:42pm

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sextonseven said:

...morning I finally looked at the other setlists in full and felt slightly disappointed. This doesn't happen when I see her on multiple consecutive nights like in the past when one night's setlist makes up for another.

disappointed at the setlists or disappointed that you won't get to see several shows? or both?

i think the differences in the setlists are pretty amazing. with exceptions for original sinsuality and the beekeeper (which, by the way, i think should be performed in the reverse order), it seems to be a pretty unpredictable show and i love when i have no idea what i might here!
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Reply #194 posted 04/09/05 12:51pm

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SassyBritches said:

sextonseven said:

...morning I finally looked at the other setlists in full and felt slightly disappointed. This doesn't happen when I see her on multiple consecutive nights like in the past when one night's setlist makes up for another.

disappointed at the setlists or disappointed that you won't get to see several shows? or both?


Both now that I think about it, but I originally meant that I would have preferred to hear some of the songs she performed in other cities over what NYC got last night. Maybe it's just a case of the grass being always greener. lol
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Reply #195 posted 04/10/05 8:46pm

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setlist for 10 april (hartford, ct?)

Original Sinsuality
Beauty Queen
Horses
Carbon
Parasol
Leather
Jackie's Strength
Strange

59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy) - (Simon & Garfunkel cover)
Me And Bobby McGee (Janis Joplin cover)

Mrs. Jesus
Marys Of The Sea
Silent All These Years
Ribbons Undone
Spring Haze
The Beekeeper

1st Encore

Marman
Cloud On My Tongue

2nd Encore

Sweet The Sting
Twinkle
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Reply #196 posted 04/11/05 8:41am

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I really need to brush up on my Scarlet's Walk. I know it by far the least of all her albums.
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Reply #197 posted 04/11/05 9:21am

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I really need to brush up on my Scarlet's Walk. I know it by far the least of all her albums.

i thought i really liked the record but lately i've been trying ot get back into it and i just can't. my mind wonders to another cd everytime i put it on(usually the beekeeper, under the pink, or to venus and back). i tend to just listen to certain songs and then jump to a new disc.
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Reply #198 posted 04/11/05 9:23am

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SassyBritches said:

i thought i really liked the record but lately i've been trying ot get back into it and i just can't. my mind wonders to another cd everytime i put it on(usually the beekeeper, under the pink, or to venus and back). i tend to just listen to certain songs and then jump to a new disc.

How would you rate/rank her albums?
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Reply #199 posted 04/11/05 9:32am

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SassyBritches said:

i thought i really liked the record but lately i've been trying ot get back into it and i just can't. my mind wonders to another cd everytime i put it on(usually the beekeeper, under the pink, or to venus and back). i tend to just listen to certain songs and then jump to a new disc.

How would you rate/rank her albums?

this is how my list would look but it isn't in relation to the lyrical or compositional style; its just my own, general preferences:

boys for pele
the beekeeper
under the pink
to venus and back (disc one)
from the choirgirl hotel
little earthquakes
scarlet's walk
to venus and back (disc two)
strange little girls
tales of a librarian
y can't tori read
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Reply #200 posted 04/11/05 10:10am

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SassyBritches said:

this is how my list would look but it isn't in relation to the lyrical or compositional style; its just my own, general preferences:

boys for pele
the beekeeper
under the pink
to venus and back (disc one)
from the choirgirl hotel
little earthquakes
scarlet's walk
to venus and back (disc two)
strange little girls
tales of a librarian
y can't tori read

For some reason, I thought Scarlet's Walk was your fave.

Choirgirl has jumped up hugely since I gave it another chance a few years ago. And The Beekeeper I loved instantly.

Mine would go:

Boys For Pele
From the Choirgirl Hotel (stiff competition for #1)
The Beekeeper
To Venus and Back
Little Earthquakes/Under the Pink (a tie)
Strange Little Girls

And I really don't know Scarlet's Walk well enough to count it.

But I thoroughly love everything on that list above SLG. It's just a matter of degrees, really.
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Reply #201 posted 04/11/05 10:46am

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GangstaFam said:

SassyBritches said:

this is how my list would look but it isn't in relation to the lyrical or compositional style; its just my own, general preferences:

boys for pele
the beekeeper
under the pink
to venus and back (disc one)
from the choirgirl hotel
little earthquakes
scarlet's walk
to venus and back (disc two)
strange little girls
tales of a librarian
y can't tori read

For some reason, I thought Scarlet's Walk was your fave.

Choirgirl has jumped up hugely since I gave it another chance a few years ago. And The Beekeeper I loved instantly.

Mine would go:

Boys For Pele
From the Choirgirl Hotel (stiff competition for #1)
The Beekeeper
To Venus and Back
Little Earthquakes/Under the Pink (a tie)
Strange Little Girls

And I really don't know Scarlet's Walk well enough to count it.

But I thoroughly love everything on that list above SLG. It's just a matter of degrees, really.

scarlet's walk has moments that are in my tops list (like the way she discusses american history and 9/11) and when i first got it i was very impressed. it used to sit much higher on my list (close to under the pink, actually) but lately i feel as though its kind of aged not-so-well. i find myself skipping too many songs (carbon, strange, another girl's paradise, crazy, sweet sangria) but then there are tracks...a sorta fairytale, wednesday, your cloud, gold dust, i can't see new york, taxe ride, don't make me come to vegas, scarlet's walk, virginia...which are just so powerful and smart and real. i've only spoken very highly of the record so i'm not surprised to see that you thought it was my favorite. it has so many high points that i don't frequently talk about its low points.

the reverse happened with the new disc. its kind of funny because for the first week of its release, i was a little disappointed in the beekeeper. now its just a couple of hairs below boys for pele. i'm a sucker for passion, death, and betrayal...
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Reply #202 posted 04/11/05 10:56am

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scarlet's walk has moments that are in my tops list (like the way she discusses american history and 9/11) and when i first got it i was very impressed. it used to sit much higher on my list (close to under the pink, actually) but lately i feel as though its kind of aged not-so-well. i find myself skipping too many songs (carbon, strange, another girl's paradise, crazy, sweet sangria) but then there are tracks...a sorta fairytale, wednesday, your cloud, gold dust, i can't see new york, taxe ride, don't make me come to vegas, scarlet's walk, virginia...which are just so powerful and smart and real. i've only spoken very highly of the record so i'm not surprised to see that you thought it was my favorite. it has so many high points that i don't frequently talk about its low points.

the reverse happened with the new disc. its kind of funny because for the first week of its release, i was a little disappointed in the beekeeper. now its just a couple of hairs below boys for pele. i'm a sucker for passion, death, and betrayal...

I love the spirituality of Scarlet. It's just that I tend to get a little lost in it. Maybe too many dreamy, languid slow songs. Dunno. I think it could've benefited from the addition of some of the faster, more rocking b-sides like "Mountain" and "Tombigbee". Don't know how they'd fit into the story though. I love the Sunny Florida dvd, most of the b-sides and many of the album tracks. I just haven't made it my own yet and cracked it as a complete work. I feel like I'm working from the outside in, which might be my problem. I should spend some time with toriphoria getting absorbed in that album.

And I can definitely see the parallels between Pele and Beekeeper. Of course Pele is darker and more extreme. But they both have a mythological, almost impressionistic quality that I love in her work. They both take you to such extreme places emotionally and really don't let up from beginning to end. Being such long albums, I think they really benefit from the variety of moods, subject matter and sound throughout. But I think they also hold together really well. That might be the problem with Scarlet. I'm all about continuity and exploring a specific sound on a record, but it might be just a bit too samey. The concept and sound is so tight on that record that it almost works more as a narative mood piece.

But, I could totally change my mind once I feel like I actually know it. lol
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Reply #203 posted 04/11/05 11:53am

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SassyBritches said:

i thought i really liked the record but lately i've been trying ot get back into it and i just can't. my mind wonders to another cd everytime i put it on(usually the beekeeper, under the pink, or to venus and back). i tend to just listen to certain songs and then jump to a new disc.

How would you rate/rank her albums?


My list:

Little Earthquakes
To Venus And Back (disc one)
Under The Pink
Boys For Pele
Scarlet's Hidden Treasures
The Beekeeper
Scarlet's Walk
from the choirgirl hotel
Strange Little Girls

I've been into Tori since the beginning so nothing will ever top the mind-blowing experience of hearing her debut for the first time and realizing that I had found something very special that I desperately needed at the time.
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Reply #204 posted 04/11/05 3:08pm

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sextonseven said:

My list:

Little Earthquakes
To Venus And Back (disc one)
Under The Pink
Boys For Pele
Scarlet's Hidden Treasures
The Beekeeper
Scarlet's Walk
from the choirgirl hotel
Strange Little Girls

I've been into Tori since the beginning so nothing will ever top the mind-blowing experience of hearing her debut for the first time and realizing that I had found something very special that I desperately needed at the time.

Really? Choirgirl that low? It used to be pretty low for me too until I gave it some time.
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Reply #205 posted 04/11/05 3:22pm

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sextonseven said:

My list:

Little Earthquakes
To Venus And Back (disc one)
Under The Pink
Boys For Pele
Scarlet's Hidden Treasures
The Beekeeper
Scarlet's Walk
from the choirgirl hotel
Strange Little Girls

Really? Choirgirl that low? It used to be pretty low for me too until I gave it some time.


A lot of the songs on 'choirgirl' just rub me the wrong way--particularly the album tracks. I like the singles, however. I dunno, maybe it took some time for me to get used to all the other instruments that she let in her house to play. "Northern Lad" and "Black Dove" I like because they remind me of old Tori, but those other album tracks, "iieee", "She's Your Cocaine", "Liquid Diamonds", etc. do absolutley nothing for me. sad
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Reply #206 posted 04/11/05 3:25pm

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A lot of the songs on 'choirgirl' just rub me the wrong way--particularly the album tracks. I like the singles, however. I dunno, maybe it took some time for me to get used to all the other instruments that she let in her house to play. "Northern Lad" and "Black Dove" I like because they remind me of old Tori, but those other album tracks, "iieee", "She's Your Cocaine", "Liquid Diamonds", etc. do absolutley nothing for me. sad

Bummer.

When that album first came out, I didn't get into it at all which is strange cuz I loved everything else she'd done.

Now I think she just grew and changed faster than I was able to keep up with her.

How is it then that you love Venus so much? That seems even further removed from her classic style.
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Reply #207 posted 04/11/05 3:31pm

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and then back to topic...

tonight' setlist from atlanta:

Original Sinsuality
Blood Roses
Past The Mission
Sleeps With Butterflies
Cooling
The Power Of Orange Knickers
Doughnut Song

Rocket Man (Elton John cover)
Killing Me Softly (Roberta Flack cover)

Carbon
Jamaica Inn
Landslide
I Don't Like Mondays
The Beekeeper

1st Encore

Tear In Your Hand
Josephine

2nd Encore

Merman
Twinkle

lookit tori mixin' it up again!


Killing me softly and Landslide?! I love when she does landslide.. i'm getting so excited!!! April 24th....
I should request something by Annie Lennox (why) or A Case of You (although noone can top P's version, 1983 rehearsal)
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Reply #208 posted 04/11/05 3:36pm

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A Case of You (although noone can top P's version, 1983 rehearsal)

Have you heard k.d. lang's recent cover?
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Reply #209 posted 04/11/05 3:53pm

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How is it then that you love Venus so much? That seems even further removed from her classic style.


I found the electronica of 'Venus' to be a much smoother blend. On 'choirgirl' the extra instrumentation sounded a little forced to me at times.
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