if people didn't waste money on vinyl then these sets would be meaningfully sized

LILpoundCAKE said:

the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:


laurianne
darkside
blood on the sheets
the last dance
trouble
alice through the looking glass
I pledge allegiance to your love


also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks
but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it
by now.

"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.

"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

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[Edited 8/24/23 22:17pm]

nayroo2002 said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

No hate to you, but at no point between this set's conception and right now was Schoolyard ever in danger of being "censored" - literally the reason for Lust and Extraloveable was that he said the word in the song in that context, that's it. I promise you there was no more thought put into it than that. Schoolyard, while graphic, isn't the same as the situation with the other two songs.

Trust me.

lustmealways said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

No hate to you, but at no point between this set's conception and right now was Schoolyard ever in danger of being "censored" - literally the reason for Lust and Extraloveable was that he said the word in the song in that context, that's it. I promise you there was no more thought put into it than that. Schoolyard, while graphic, isn't the same as the situation with the other two songs.

Trust me.

I trust you and accept your promises, dear.

Poplife88 said:

bluegangsta said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:


laurianne
darkside
blood on the sheets
the last dance
trouble
alice through the looking glass
I pledge allegiance to your love


also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks
but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it
by now.

"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.

"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.

cool! sounds interesting

what about "blood on the sheets" and "darkside" ?

JorisE73 said:

bluegangsta said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

JorisE73 said:

I pledge allegiance to your love = Allegiance I think

princevault says no. it seems to be a album session track/outtake

Ah gotcha
Ddin't chck Princevault in all my exitement.

TheNumber23 said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

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I'll reserve my judgement until I can actually listen to the track. I sure hope they didn't edit the problematic parts out. This is not very likely, but you never know...

Edit (reading the lyrics again): ok, they would have to edit most of the track if they thought it was problematic...

[Edited 8/25/23 0:16am]

ea1313 said:

JorisE73 said:

Ah damn. Weird to choose that one instead of the one slated for the album.
I secretly hope they'll do remasters of Cream and Gett Off EP's for record store day (also on CD) just to complete the set with all original the releases remeastered.

It would be nice to have the Gangster Glam remixes too, especially Hurley’s. I love the house versions.

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Don't give the Estate ideas!

olb99 said:

I'll reserve my judgement until I can actually listen to the track. I sure hope they didn't edit the problematic parts out. This is not very likely, but you never know...

Edit (reading the lyrics again): ok, they would have to edit most of the track if they thought it was problematic...

[Edited 8/25/23 0:16am]

It's not edited.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

Exactly.

Let's wait for it to be released to check the track has not been edited out but i agree that it's a very good sign for the future. Who are we to censor his music ?

It makes me smile when people say that Prince wouldn't have release this or that.

Prince is not there anymore so which Prince are we talking about ? The one over his 50's, the one in his prime or the young Prince recording music in his basements.

There's not just one Prince now, there are lots of them. So which one is more relevant and why should we ask the older Prince if Schoolyard should be released when this song was written when he was 30.

Anyway, looks like a good point for the new Estate.

bluegangsta said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:


laurianne
darkside
blood on the sheets
the last dance
trouble
alice through the looking glass
I pledge allegiance to your love


also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks
but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it
by now.

"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.

"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.

What do you mean ? Did you get to hear the whole set yet ??

fredmagnus said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

Exactly.

Let's wait for it to be released to check the track has not been edited out but i agree that it's a very good sign for the future. Who are we to censor his music ?

It makes me smile when people say that Prince wouldn't have release this or that.

Prince is not there anymore so which Prince are we talking about ? The one over his 50's, the one in his prime or the young Prince recording music in his basements.

There's not just one Prince now, there are lots of them. So which one is more relevant and why should we ask the older Prince if Schoolyard should be released when this song was written when he was 30.

Anyway, looks like a good point for the new Estate.

Well, we know for a fact that all of the Princes you mention didn't release Schoolyard, so the only theoretical Prince we can be talking about when we say what we think he would or wouldn't do, is the one that would exist had he not died.

JorisE73 said:

bluegangsta said:

EnglishGent2 said:

fredmagnus said:

Exactly.

Let's wait for it to be released to check the track has not been edited out but i agree that it's a very good sign for the future. Who are we to censor his music ?

It makes me smile when people say that Prince wouldn't have release this or that.

Prince is not there anymore so which Prince are we talking about ? The one over his 50's, the one in his prime or the young Prince recording music in his basements.

There's not just one Prince now, there are lots of them. So which one is more relevant and why should we ask the older Prince if Schoolyard should be released when this song was written when he was 30.

Anyway, looks like a good point for the new Estate.

Well, we know for a fact that all of the Princes you mention didn't release Schoolyard, so the only theoretical Prince we can be talking about when we say what we think he would or wouldn't do, is the one that would exist had he not died.

He sure did not release it but he recorded it.

As you said he's not there anymore and the Estate is releasing his archives. That's a whole different approach than Prince releasing all of these demos during his lifetime in one of his albums.

That was my point.

[Edited 8/25/23 2:07am]

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]

Isn't he just singing what (I think) most people experienced at the 14-16 year old age?
I see nothing 'problematic' in the lyrics or song.
Who didn't get it on in the schoolyard??

nayroo2002 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

TheNumber23 said:

Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.

[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]

I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]

But he isn't singing about underage sex is he? or here in a lot of European countries 14 is the legal age.

JorisE73 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

TheNumber23 said: I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]

Isn't he just singing what (I think) most people experienced at the 14-16 year old age?
I see nothing 'problematic' in the lyrics or song.
Who didn't get it on in the schoolyard??

you forget that we are dutch and most of these people are american