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Reply #450 posted 09/25/18 10:56am

TheFreakerFant
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IstenSzek said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ Hahahah, I wouldn't put it past them! biggrin At least the 'leggers give you a full disc when they release stuff!!!

[Edited 9/25/18 0:49am]


if they followed bootlegger logic they would have included an outtake from 1988,
two alternate versions of 'we gets up' and a random soundboard of a live version
of 'cream' from an unspecified date lol


That would still have been preferable to me haha. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing is rereleased when they find the actual master was sitting in the vault all along!!!

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Reply #451 posted 09/25/18 11:36am

luvsexy4all

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I may be wrong but I don't think there was much to be done to reduce the hissing that hasn't already be done. This came from a cassette! Reducing the hissing would most likely have meant fucking up other frequencies and the damage would have been worst even if it may have looked like it sounded better to untrained ears. Now I'm not sure, there are audio professionals here so maybe they can tell us.

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well you are wrong cuz lot of found album from dead artist have been made from a tape to a perfectly "non tape hissing" recording.

the last of this kind i heard was the sliver album from nirvana... it's not perfect but still listenable, and it was recorder with a shity cassette deck...

For now this piano and microphone album is just unlistanable.

i'm suprised by the number of fans who don't acknledge that bad quality, it seems when you become a fan, in religion like in music you just become a dumb zaelot, ready to belive in everyshit and to go blind to the truth... god is real and piano and microphone 1983 sounds great.

why promote your atheism with this topic?????

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Reply #452 posted 09/25/18 11:56am

darlingnikkkki

Just ordered my copy from Amazon. It’s currently sold out (#1 Pop album on Amazon) and will take 1 to 4 weeks to arrive. Glad it comes with a free MP3 copy that I’m listening on repeat. music
"I want to be the only one you come for...."
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Reply #453 posted 09/25/18 12:43pm

violetcrush

darlingnikkkki said:

Just ordered my copy from Amazon. It’s currently sold out (#1 Pop album on Amazon) and will take 1 to 4 weeks to arrive. Glad it comes with a free MP3 copy that I’m listening on repeat. music

Well, there you have it....let the sales speak for themselves smile prince yes music

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Reply #454 posted 09/25/18 1:01pm

Silvertongue7

violetcrush said:



darlingnikkkki said:


Just ordered my copy from Amazon. It’s currently sold out (#1 Pop album on Amazon) and will take 1 to 4 weeks to arrive. Glad it comes with a free MP3 copy that I’m listening on repeat. music


Well, there you have it....let the sales speak for themselves smile prince yes music


I just had a look at iTunes U.K. and it’s gone down to 39 now... I guess it will sell a good amount of physical copies though.
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Reply #455 posted 09/25/18 1:05pm

onlyforaminute

Got my cd days ago, but I had already heard the entire thing by the time I got it. But yesterday I got my packet with vinyl and cd, and stuff. I love it. All I got to say.

"I’m not new to this, I’m true to this."

Gladys Knight
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Reply #456 posted 09/25/18 1:09pm

violetcrush

Silvertongue7 said:

violetcrush said:

Well, there you have it....let the sales speak for themselves smile prince yes music

I just had a look at iTunes U.K. and it’s gone down to 39 now... I guess it will sell a good amount of physical copies though.

Yes, I like the "old school" method. CD in my car and music coming through the stereo speakers..

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Reply #457 posted 09/25/18 2:58pm

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laforet99 said:


I may be wrong but I don't think there was much to be done to reduce the hissing that hasn't already be done. This came from a cassette! Reducing the hissing would most likely have meant fucking up other frequencies and the damage would have been worst even if it may have looked like it sounded better to untrained ears. Now I'm not sure, there are audio professionals here so maybe they can tell us.


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well you are wrong cuz lot of found album from dead artist have been made from a tape to a perfectly "non tape hissing" recording.


the last of this kind i heard was the sliver album from nirvana... it's not perfect but still listenable, and it was recorder with a shity cassette deck...


For now this piano and microphone album is just unlistanable.



i'm suprised by the number of fans who don't acknledge that bad quality, it seems when you become a fan, in religion like in music you just become a dumb zaelot, ready to belive in everyshit and to go blind to the truth... god is real and piano and microphone 1983 sounds great.


It comes from a tape, the tape hiss is part of the sound, it'd be worse without it. Sorry to hear tape hiss makes music unlistenable to you.
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Reply #458 posted 09/25/18 4:16pm

violetcrush

jaawwnn said:

laforet99 said:

well you are wrong cuz lot of found album from dead artist have been made from a tape to a perfectly "non tape hissing" recording.

the last of this kind i heard was the sliver album from nirvana... it's not perfect but still listenable, and it was recorder with a shity cassette deck...

For now this piano and microphone album is just unlistanable.

i'm suprised by the number of fans who don't acknledge that bad quality, it seems when you become a fan, in religion like in music you just become a dumb zaelot, ready to belive in everyshit and to go blind to the truth... god is real and piano and microphone 1983 sounds great.

It comes from a tape, the tape hiss is part of the sound, it'd be worse without it. Sorry to hear tape hiss makes music unlistenable to you.

The raw, unproduced sound is a big part of what I love about the songs. Not sure how anyone can't understand where it's coming from and why it's a special thing.

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Reply #459 posted 09/25/18 7:39pm

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laforet99 said:


I may be wrong but I don't think there was much to be done to reduce the hissing that hasn't already be done. This came from a cassette! Reducing the hissing would most likely have meant fucking up other frequencies and the damage would have been worst even if it may have looked like it sounded better to untrained ears. Now I'm not sure, there are audio professionals here so maybe they can tell us.


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well you are wrong cuz lot of found album from dead artist have been made from a tape to a perfectly "non tape hissing" recording.


the last of this kind i heard was the sliver album from nirvana... it's not perfect but still listenable, and it was recorder with a shity cassette deck...


For now this piano and microphone album is just unlistanable.



i'm suprised by the number of fans who don't acknledge that bad quality, it seems when you become a fan, in religion like in music you just become a dumb zaelot, ready to belive in everyshit and to go blind to the truth... god is real and piano and microphone 1983 sounds great.




I couldn’t give a fuck less about this Piano & Microphone release. But you’re dead wrong about tape hiss. Talk to any studio engineer, audio technician, or even audiophile, and they’ll tell you what’s up. Noise reduction sucks.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Reply #460 posted 09/25/18 7:41pm

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violetcrush said:

jaawwnn said:

laforet99 said: It comes from a tape, the tape hiss is part of the sound, it'd be worse without it. Sorry to hear tape hiss makes music unlistenable to you.

The raw, unproduced sound is a big part of what I love about the songs. Not sure how anyone can't understand where it's coming from and why it's a special thing.

I agree. I found an old bootleg concert "The Regent of 1st Ave". That was the first SOTT rehearsal show. When we got it, we were so excited for the raw funk. Now it is unlistenable, after getting better versions coming available.

The P & M 83 is better than versions that I have had of this practice session. Love it and will love any upgrade coming in the future.

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Reply #461 posted 09/26/18 2:16am

paulludvig

Rev said:

violetcrush said:

The raw, unproduced sound is a big part of what I love about the songs. Not sure how anyone can't understand where it's coming from and why it's a special thing.

I agree. I found an old bootleg concert "The Regent of 1st Ave". That was the first SOTT rehearsal show. When we got it, we were so excited for the raw funk. Now it is unlistenable, after getting better versions coming available.

The P & M 83 is better than versions that I have had of this practice session. Love it and will love any upgrade coming in the future.

Not sure I agree with the term "practise session". His not practising a given set list or a particular arrangement, but rather exploring ideas. To me that makes it a creative session.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #462 posted 09/26/18 2:28am

BartVanHemelen

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Hamilton Spectator review: https://www.thespec.com/w...rilliance/

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PopDust review: https://www.popdust.com/p...39754.html

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RTBF review (in French): https://www.rtbf.be/cultu...d=10024944

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Omaha World-Herald review: https://www.omaha.com/go/...a6043.html

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El Pais review (in Spanish): https://elpais.com/cultur...32698.html

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Sonic magazine review (in a Scandinavian language): http://www.sonicmagazine....hone-1983/

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Reply #463 posted 09/26/18 2:30am

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UK music monthly Uncut published the article it did on the album as part of its August 2018 cover story on Prince online: https://www.uncut.co.uk/f...983-107429

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Reply #464 posted 09/26/18 2:39am

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Oor review (in Dutch): https://oor.nl/albums/pri...hone-1983/

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BlackAmericaWeb review: https://blackamericaweb.c...is-legacy/

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Reply #465 posted 09/26/18 6:29am

violetcrush

paulludvig said:

Rev said:

I agree. I found an old bootleg concert "The Regent of 1st Ave". That was the first SOTT rehearsal show. When we got it, we were so excited for the raw funk. Now it is unlistenable, after getting better versions coming available.

The P & M 83 is better than versions that I have had of this practice session. Love it and will love any upgrade coming in the future.

Not sure I agree with the term "practise session". His not practising a given set list or a particular arrangement, but rather exploring ideas. To me that makes it a creative session.

I agree. This is not a rehearsal in the typical sense of the word. This is a creative session to explore and hash out ideas for songs.

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Reply #466 posted 09/26/18 9:56am

LovePaisley

violetcrush said:



paulludvig said:




Rev said:





I agree. I found an old bootleg concert "The Regent of 1st Ave". That was the first SOTT rehearsal show. When we got it, we were so excited for the raw funk. Now it is unlistenable, after getting better versions coming available.



The P & M 83 is better than versions that I have had of this practice session. Love it and will love any upgrade coming in the future.



Not sure I agree with the term "practise session". His not practising a given set list or a particular arrangement, but rather exploring ideas. To me that makes it a creative session.




I agree. This is not a rehearsal in the typical sense of the word. This is a creative session to explore and hash out ideas for songs.



I love that he's basically jamming with himself. From pedal stomps to vocal punctuations to little bits of keyboard riff, you can *hear* that he's hearing all the instruments playing in his head. Maybe he's documenting it for later use, maybe seeing what inspiration strikes... Or maybe both at once. But either way, it's freakin awesome. It's just what I wanted: a chance to sit on the piano bench next to him while he plays.
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
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Reply #467 posted 09/26/18 2:03pm

CoolMF

Given it a couple of "in depth" listens since Fri. and probably won't listen to it anymore in the future.

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Fascinating experience to hear the creative process and to see how songs evolve- especially "17 Days".

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Unlike the Purple Rain Deluxe, this one is purely acedemic- nothing "jamming" on here that I can blast from my ride on the way home from work. Despite that, I'm not complaining at all. Like I said, this is fascinating and I'm hopeful that more good shit from the Vault is on it's way very soon.

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I'm not a piano player but I know good playing when I hear it and this dude, even in '83, was a beast on the piano.

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"17 Days" is amazing- this dude was scatting other instruments from the recorded version while jamming it on the piano. Talk about dopeness.

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LITTLE BLACK MOUSE!!!!!

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Reply #468 posted 09/26/18 2:31pm

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I'm glad they released it and I enjoy it but I think it would have been a better idea to include P&M 1983 as a bonus disc on P&M 2016 or (as someone mentioned earlier) as part of the PR Deluxe. It feels more like an EP cuz it's so short.
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Reply #469 posted 09/27/18 12:22am

RODSERLING

Again I was right from the start : this release is selling much more than what à 1999 would have sold.
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Numbers projected of 33/38.000 copies in pure sales (no streaming) according to HDD, at #7 of the charts sales.
Thèse numbers are slighly higher than that of the PR deluxe (not to be confused with the added sales of the original albums like Feeluup Always do) on the 1st week of release.
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Reply #470 posted 09/27/18 1:32am

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MIRvmn said:

It feels more like an EP cuz it's so short.

It's longer than Dirty Mind, so no.

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Reply #471 posted 09/27/18 2:00am

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RODSERLING said:

Again I was right from the start : this release is selling much more than what à 1999 would have sold. . Numbers projected of 33/38.000 copies in pure sales (no streaming) according to HDD, at #7 of the charts sales. Thèse numbers are slighly higher than that of the PR deluxe (not to be confused with the added sales of the original albums like Feeluup Always do) on the 1st week of release. [Edited 9/27/18 0:23am]


you know, i'm starting to think you might be right

omg omg omg

but you won't get an apology from me until a 1999 deluxe is released and sells less smile


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #472 posted 09/27/18 5:30am

kindofblue

I received my Deluxe package on monday and am more then happy with it. The packaging is very beautifully crafted and really worthy of the word deluxe, especially compared to the shitty Purple Rain Deluxe cardboard box.

I don't understand why this should be a bonus disc to something else that it has no connection to. I think also future releases should be exactly this way: Don't mix sessions from 1983 with live concerts from 2016 as was suggested here, or don't mix the 1999 album with a piano session from the following year that has a completely different mood and sound. Let each work or session stand on its own.

To the musical content: It comes at no surprise that this is no SOTT or Lovesexy or The Rainbow Children, but even if I have known the bootleg for like 20 years, I like the music very much and will surely listen to it more often during the dark and quiet autumn and winter nights to come.

I think the estate and Warner Brothers got it right.

And I sure don't give a damn about sales figures or chart positions. And neither should you. Let's care more about the quality of the release then about potential sales.

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Reply #473 posted 09/27/18 6:19am

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RODSERLING said:

Again I was right from the start : this release is selling much more than what à 1999 would have sold. . Numbers projected of 33/38.000 copies in pure sales (no streaming) according to HDD, at #7 of the charts sales. Thèse numbers are slighly higher than that of the PR deluxe (not to be confused with the added sales of the original albums like Feeluup Always do) on the 1st week of release. [Edited 9/27/18 0:23am]

Tell me ROD, where in any chart does it say PR DELUXE sales not including PR original album sales... It doesn't, it simply combines them both since it's a reissue of the album with the same name, so in that case we don't know what sold what, only a total.

So if it says PR DELUXE sold X amount of copies in the the first week, there is no indicator on ANY CHART that states including or not including sales from the original PR. You muppet.

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Reply #474 posted 09/27/18 6:25am

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For example. PR DELUXE debuted at #4 on the world chart:

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week 9
Prince - Purple Rain
Warner Bros. - 94.000 / ~21.000.000

Tell me ROD, where does it indicate what the sales of only PR DELUXE and only the sales of the original PR album is? It doesn't, so don't tell me I ADD numbers on, i just report the sales from the actual chart.

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Reply #475 posted 09/27/18 6:31am

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RODSERLING said:

Again I was right from the start : this release is selling much more than what à 1999 would have sold. . Numbers projected of 33/38.000 copies in pure sales (no streaming) according to HDD, at #7 of the charts sales. Thèse numbers are slighly higher than that of the PR deluxe (not to be confused with the added sales of the original albums like Feeluup Always do) on the 1st week of release. [Edited 9/27/18 0:23am]

No ROD. Lets do the math when the numbers are actually here.

First week U.S. sales come out tomorrow. First week worldwide sales come out tomorrow as well.

Like I stated in the previous post if PR DELUXE sold X amount of copies lets pretend it sold 50 copies only ok, how do we know what the added sales are from the original PR album? No chart indicates that, at all. It is completley your speculation. Show me where any chart says these are the PR DELUXE numbers and these are the original PR numbers, it doesn't, it simply is a TOTAL.

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Reply #476 posted 09/27/18 9:06am

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LovePaisley said:

violetcrush said:

I agree. This is not a rehearsal in the typical sense of the word. This is a creative session to explore and hash out ideas for songs.

I love that he's basically jamming with himself. From pedal stomps to vocal punctuations to little bits of keyboard riff, you can *hear* that he's hearing all the instruments playing in his head. Maybe he's documenting it for later use, maybe seeing what inspiration strikes... Or maybe both at once. But either way, it's freakin awesome. It's just what I wanted: a chance to sit on the piano bench next to him while he plays.

Best thing I've read in awhile. Thanks for sharing LovePaisley!! smile

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Reply #477 posted 09/27/18 9:39am

Empress

I like this cd! It's not a masterpiece by no means, but it's quite enjoyable.

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Reply #478 posted 09/27/18 10:17am

EekAhBoo

I can't stop listening to 17 Days and Purple Rain

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Reply #479 posted 09/27/18 11:46am

lion88

I really love 17 days, strange relationship and why the butterflies.

I still think this is a strange choice for an official first release. But also special because it is complete unique and cannot be compared to other albums. Now hopefully the 2016 Piano & A Microphone will be released next.

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