antonb said:

KingSausage said:

Silvertongue7 said:

antonb said:

I get some of the complaints, but to complain about the performance of prince on this is ridiculous. It is what it is. In that moment, in that time. Which the people behind it make quite clear! And in the articles. Relax and enjoy it!

But that’s the issue... it’s not particularly enjoyable (for me). Interesting yes. Enjoyable... not so much. [Edited 9/22/18 5:24am]

Of course if its not for you, thats fine. But the range of his voice is what i am enjoying the most from. We prince fans have heard an incredible amount of material over the years. And i feel we have been spoilt somewhat. There is still enjoyment to be had with this. With his voice and some of the playing.

All I have to say is the sound quality on here SMOKES the "Intimate Moments" boots that I've had over the years, so I'm happy. This is just the beginning of a (hopefully) long campaign. Why the fuck can't you people ever be satisfied? Yes, his vault recordings and deluxe editions should have happened years ago. They're happening now. Why can we rejoice when a better source of a previously available boot comes out, but this is considered garbage? Is it table scraps compared to other stuff that we know is in the vault? Yes. But goddamn it, he's gone now. This album sounds like he's right here in my room.

ian said:

It's definitely of historical interest for Prince fans, but that's about it for me. It is hard not to feel disappointed.

Prince improved so much as a musician, vocalist and pianist over the years, it makes jumping back to a rough private noodling session from 83 kinda tough to listen to (considering how good the ONA piano album was 20 years later). The bottom line for me is that I don't think Prince would ever have wanted this released, and I don't particularly enjoy listening to it. To think... all the great unreleased studio material Prince worked on over the years, and this is what we end up with. And that's it for another 12 months? Pretty disappointing.

Folk compained A LOT about ONA Live. One major complaint was that it sounded 'flat' in its dynamics. I remember they even derided JIR vs JMI from Small Club.

There's a very nice review in The New York Times this morning, by Jon Pareles (in the online version of the paper on 9/19).

FFS! Moaning face feckers, its fecking genius, now go back and listen and be happy you have it. Its the only recording U have of the Purple Yoda with Influenza...jeeezz some peoples.

pattypal17 said:

There's a very nice review in The New York Times this morning, by Jon Pareles (in the online version of the paper on 9/19).

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Already posted here three days ago. Seriously, don't you lot read the first post that I've tried to keep udpated?

SPOOKYGAS said:

FFS! Moaning face feckers, its fecking genius, now go back and listen and be happy you have it. Its the only recording U have of the Purple Yoda with Influenza...jeeezz some peoples.

Don't get your pannies in a bunch.

I'm still waiting on my deluxe vinyl/CD to show up in the mail.

Had planned on buying it even though I was already disappointed with the idea of it being stripped down. I mean, it's damn ridiculous to release stripped down, early stages, or "Liberace versions" to fans of a funk/rock artist simply to show how "talented his was in his creative process". Hell, we all know how talented he was so there's no need to try to prove it. I guess next they'll release a recording of him sitting on a toilet and praise the sound of him farting before the turd splashes into the water. I can hear the raves now....."Oooo...listen to the way he grunts while he's straining to get it out. Nobody grunts like that! Pure GENIUS!".

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I couldn't find a place that had it in stock that was close enough for me to drive to and come back on my lunch hour so I didn't buy it. But I did come home and "find" it though and was even more disappointed than I originally thought I was going to be. Do I plan on driving up there and buying it today? Nope?

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That's alright though. Y'all keep on buying stuff like this and they'll give you more of it and you'll never get any jams. I guess I'll have to treat whoever makes the decisons on these releases the same way I treated Prince in his later years which is.... "If it can't make me sweat in my suit, it ain't getting none of my loot.". Either throwdown or sit down.

BartVanHemelen said:

pattypal17 said:

There's a very nice review in The New York Times this morning, by Jon Pareles (in the online version of the paper on 9/19).

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Already posted here three days ago. Seriously, don't you lot read the first post that I've tried to keep udpated?

We are Salems Lot..we dont do that.

luv4u said:

SPOOKYGAS said:

FFS! Moaning face feckers, its fecking genius, now go back and listen and be happy you have it. Its the only recording U have of the Purple Yoda with Influenza...jeeezz some peoples.

Don't get your pannies in a bunch.

I'm still waiting on my deluxe vinyl/CD to show up in the mail.

Hey spoken like a true Canadian! Do U guys ever get pissed at anything? (other than being mistaken as merican!)

SPOOKYGAS said:

luv4u said:

Don't get your pannies in a bunch.

I'm still waiting on my deluxe vinyl/CD to show up in the mail.

Hey spoken like a true Canadian! Do U guys ever get pissed at anything? (other than being mistaken as merican!)

I've never been mistaken for such.

mericans have accents so they're easy to spot Orgnote me sometime

Now back on topic.

Received my "official bootleg" in the mail yesterday.

Checked the packaging and was already smacked down by the logo of with "the Prince estate" under it.

I had the same feeling as many others while listening, that this release was unneccessary and a wasted space on cd for much more valuable Prince music.

I just feel even more depressed about the whole situation!

They really DO NOT have a clue as to what is of value to the fans.

Now, where did i save that "17 Days" extended version they failed to put on PRD...

i'm glad that many people do like it and are fine with it. i don't hate it either.

but i have to be honest and say that i've never been depressed by an official
prince release since i became a fan in '88.

until now, that is. everything about this just makes me feel so incredibly sad
and depressed jeez.

i can't wait until all the excitement about this dies down and they release an
actual album of great material (which, ironically, the press will probably just
ignore or rate sub par, little scraps etc).

it's doubly depressing that every single magazine and media outlet is now all
over this release to review it like it was the best thing since sliced bread when
no one was interested in, let alone wrote a semi decent review about, prince's
last dozen or so albums.

makes me want to kick someone in the teeth

ok, rant over.

[Edited 9/22/18 9:41am]

IstenSzek said:

I guess it would be fair to also say that the estate might have wanted the new fans to feel like they could discover the process in which Prince made his music.

For me, i was over the moon to discover a recording like this back in the day.

But, now that he is gone, it just breaks my old ass heart!

I guess i'm in a different demographic

KingSausage said:

IstenSzek said:

i'm glad that many people do like it and are fine with it. i don't hate it either.

but i have to be honest and say that i've never been depressed by an official
prince release since i became a fan in '88.

until now, that is. everything about this just makes me feel so incredibly sad
and depressed jeez.

i can't wait until all the excitement about this dies down and they release an
actual album of great material (which, ironically, the press will probably just
ignore or rate sub par, little scraps etc).

it's doubly depressing that every single magazine and media outlet is now all
over this release to review it like it was the best thing since sliced bread when
no one was interested in, let alone wrote a semi decent review about, prince's
last dozen or so albums.

makes me want to kick someone in the teeth

ok, rant over.

[Edited 9/22/18 9:41am]

Awesome post. Thank you.

i knew there would be someone who'd appreciate it

IstenSzek said:

KingSausage said:

IstenSzek said: Awesome post. Thank you.

i knew there would be someone who'd appreciate it

KingSausage said:

Tape hiss is good. Noise reduction is bad. The presence of tape hiss on this release should be praised because it means they didn’t mess with the sound too much, at lest in that way. People who like the tone of the piano and vocals should be relieved that there’s tape hiss. Removing the tape hiss would also alter the tone of the music. [Edited 9/22/18 7:01am]

Yeah - and the vinyl sounds fantastic... it has a different vibe than listening to it streaming or on CD.

206Michelle said:

I like P&M 1983. It’s raw. I’m not a fan of the b-side 17 Days, but I like the version on this album. . I feel that this album is great for Prince’s legacy. Prince never sold as many albums as The Beatles, Michael Jackson, or Elvis. He is not going to win a popularity contest. However, Prince is very much in the conversation of the greatest musical geniuses and innovators of the 20th century (and to a lesser extent, the 21st century). P&M 1983 is highly effective at fitting into and bolstering the narrative of “Prince as musical genius” and “Prince as a 20th/21st century Mozart” because the album showcases Prince’s mastery of jazz piano. This album is Prince’s first jazz album. He passes the test for being able to play jazz music on piano with flying colors. This album further supports the importance of his musical legacy as a legacy that is worthy of study and analysis.

Been seeing reports on facebook that the CD does not work. Is this true? Where was it purchased from?

I certainly hope that is NOT true as I am waiting for the deluxe vinyl/CD to arrive.

Someone said they washed it with water and it was fine after that.

KingSausage said:

I can't believe certain fans are boycotting this.

#1 on Digital Sales and #1 on CD & Vinyl right now.

Imagine how good it would be if he could actually debut at #1 on Billboard 200.

We could be getting SO MUCH more material and faster. If the sales are bad there's little chances they release more albums in short period of time.

TKO said:

I can't believe certain fans are boycotting this.

#1 on Digital Sales and #1 on CD & Vinyl right now.

Imagine how good it would be if he could actually debut at #1 on Billboard 200.

We could be getting SO MUCH more material and faster. If the sales are bad there's little chances they release more albums in short period of time.

Why???!!!