ladygirl99 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

IF you and others who are looking for more answers to Prince's death have REALLY assimilated the available info re his opiate use you would be able to discern a CLEAR BRIGHT LINE leading from opiate use to needing more and more to health declining, liver/GI tract compromised...weight loss...skin yellow...need more...need more...death. Where is the mystery???

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

Again, whether he took the meds for physical pain only , or physical pain along with another illness - in the big picture it doesn't matter. What matters is that his true fans/friends will continue to enjoy and support his music, regardless of any personal information in his medical file.

violetcrush said:

ladygirl99 said:

Then why this forum still exist? Why is this thread popular than several music threads combined? It is because the fans are just for the music is just bullshit. Human curiosity beyond the artistic is what keeps this forum alive. Prince maybe wanted the fans to focus on the music but it doesn't add up in regards to which threads get more views on this site.

And the family has the right to withhold details and I have the right not to continue to support the crooked estate financially who would rather want the public to know Prince was a junkie than being 'something else'.

And since people are saying the family are not obligated to release information that relates his death then the question beyond the law then why this thread still active? Apparently, the fans believed there is more to the story.

Overall carry on with the debate, I hope everyone gets the answers they needed.

So you are saying you won't support or buy his music, because you feel the family/estate is keeping personal information from the public? To me, that is absurd. They are two completely different things. Listening to, sharing, and buying his formerly unreleased music is actually what will keep his legacy alive - and all he himself really cared about. So, what you are saying makes no sense if you really are a fan.

There are many ways to keep Prince's legacy alive without the estate getting benefit from it as I managed to do with other fans over the last two years. What I do with my money is my business and no one has the right to police or dictate the credibility of Prince's fans it determined by the fan not Prince's forums.

Carry on.....

ladygirl99 said:

violetcrush said:

So you are saying you won't support or buy his music, because you feel the family/estate is keeping personal information from the public? To me, that is absurd. They are two completely different things. Listening to, sharing, and buying his formerly unreleased music is actually what will keep his legacy alive - and all he himself really cared about. So, what you are saying makes no sense if you really are a fan.

There are many ways to keep Prince's legacy alive without the estate getting benefit from it as I managed to do with other fans over the last two years. What I do with my money is my business and no one has the right to police or dictate the credibility of Prince's fans it determined by the fan not Prince's forums.

Carry on.....

You are mistaken though. Income to the Estate is what will continue to keep Paisley Park open, and what will allow for the unreleased music to be produced and offered to the public.

ladygirl99 said:

It kind of funny how some people on this site are saying 'lets focus on the music and legacy' but why some of the same people show up on the death-related threads the most per recent posts on their profile

But why are their recent posts on their profiles are on this thread but not on the other music forums? Yes there are other music-related forums but which thread gotten over 100000 views in the last two months like this Part 10 one? Sorry but fans are still searching for answers whether the Prince's true....

Apparently, at least I am honest enough to admit that the family should come clean about what happened to Prince and want more answers.

Yes Prince's appearances did change over the last two years of his life but I believed it is more than the drugs.

Krystalkisses said:

ladygirl99 said:

Then why this forum still exist? Why is this thread popular than several music threads combined? It is because the fans are just for the music is just bullshit. Human curiosity beyond the artistic is what keeps this forum alive. Prince maybe wanted the fans to focus on the music but it doesn't add up in regards to which threads get more views on this site.

And the family has the right to withhold details and I have the right not to continue to support the crooked estate financially who would rather want the public to know Prince was a junkie than being 'something else'.

And since people are saying the family are not obligated to release information that relates his death then the question beyond the law then why this thread still active? Apparently, the fans believed there is more to the story.

Overall carry on with the debate, I hope everyone gets the answers they needed.

I agree. Prince had a fascinating life, Some people like learning how creative people tick, enjoy life stories. I've always enjoyed reading biographies and memoirs. Simple human curiosity. Some fans only care about the music, others are curious about more. There is nothing wrong with that. I feel like it's natural to be curious about people you admire. At least it is for me.

I am glad that you honest and yes Prince is fascinating and I always want to know the human side of the creatives that I follow dead or alive. I wish some fans would be too instead of being phony and telling fans lets focus on the music but yet you still seeing some of the same people on here less on the music ones. Yes the ones who care about the music they don't appear on this thread and some of the users that I used talked to regular years ago.

violetcrush said:

ladygirl99 said:

There are many ways to keep Prince's legacy alive without the estate getting benefit from it as I managed to do with other fans over the last two years. What I do with my money is my business and no one has the right to police or dictate the credibility of Prince's fans it determined by the fan not Prince's forums.

Carry on.....

You are mistaken though. Income to the Estate is what will continue to keep Paisley Park open, and what will allow for the unreleased music to be produced and offered to the public.

Well my idol isn't here to benefit my financial contributions so.....

But overall Paisley Park is doing fine so chill. Don't forget licensing too so if the Estate no longer makes money that is because of poor business skills more than fans not supporting it directly to the estate.

ladygirl99 said:

ladygirl99 said:

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

So you join in April 2018 and "insiders" who are orgers are already orgnoting you about

the real reasons behind P's passing?

herb4 said:

PeteSilas said:

i've also seen some folks who just have no lives get lost in spirituality, i'm talking to the point where they are unbalanced, getting ssi disability money, don't have to work and just get lost in ideas of esp, healing or all sort of the esoteric. I'm spiritual but i've often seen it just use to fill a void of some kind.

IT's pretty amazing. Televangalists in particular get my goat and just baffle me. You'd think in this day and age, folks would recognize a con like that but, nope. People buy "Miracle Spring Water" and send money to carnival barking assholes so they can buy justs and shit.

it really is shocking when they've been let down so many times, religious folks can't get enough of getting fucked out of their money. I guess a lot of it has to do with how they are indoctrinated from such a young age, I've lived with christians, their children basically have no chance to form their own opinions. Still, when it comes to money, people usually don't just throw money away at just anything so yes, it boggles the mind. The ones that do get caught often get ruined though, just look at Eddie Long and Robert, god what was that guys name? the guy who tried to robert tilton, sometimes god gets them sometimes he doesn't. I believe in god.

ladygirl99 said:

violetcrush said:

You are mistaken though. Income to the Estate is what will continue to keep Paisley Park open, and what will allow for the unreleased music to be produced and offered to the public.

Well my idol isn't here to benefit my financial contributions so.....

But overall Paisley Park is doing fine so chill. Don't forget licensing too so if the Estate no longer makes money that is because of poor business skills more than fans not supporting it directly to the estate.

His legacy benefits from your contributions. PP will need the income to cover the expenses to keep it running into the future. There is only so much marketing that can be done with a musician who is no longer with us. Prince cannot tour to support the releases and/or help to maintain PP. Our financial contributions will do that.

maybe that fucker who made conspiratorial docus on kurt cobain could do one on prince. He did one on whitney too and it actually surprised me with how professional it was i think his name was michael bloomfield.

Krystalkisses said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am glad that you honest and yes Prince is fascinating and I always want to know the human side of the creatives that I follow dead or alive. I wish some fans would be too instead of being phony and telling fans lets focus on the music but yet you still seeing some of the same people on here less on the music ones. Yes the ones who care about the music they don't appear on this thread and some of the users that I used talked to regular years ago.

Yes. In a weird way I always felt like Prince encouraged this blind fanaticism when he was alive. Like some fans think they are honoring him or love him more or a true fans if they just adopt his way of thinking or worldview or repeat whatever he feels about some thing. Almost like how a cult leader controls his followers.lol. Like if your my REAL fans you won't pry into my life and then those fans declare YES! I only care about the music whether that is how they really feel or not. And then again there really are those fans that literally only care about the music. But anyway thank you for sharing what you know. I appreciate it. What you said about the estate keeping quiet to maximize profits is EXACTLY what others on here gave said who I suspect really do know more than most of us. Thanks for keeping it real. [Edited 6/16/18 11:42am]

Krystal - don't get me wrong - I've read many of the Biographies, all of his interviews, associates' interviews, and watched the documentaries while he was still here. Of course I've been fascinated about aspects of his life, especially the romances (you've seen my posts on that topic ) - Prince designed his life that way - he KNEW the public would be intrigued, interested, curious, etc. However, if I did not have those resources or "tidbits" about his personal life I still would have listened to, and purchased his music. My interest and support was not contingent upon finding out the private details of his life, and it certainly won't be now that he is gone.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ladygirl99 said:

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

So you join in April 2018 and "insiders" who are orgers are already orgnoting you about

the real reasons behind P's passing?

Hmmmm Also, per Lady's comments - taking information from Yahoo, TMZ, and various "LA blogs" as fact or even as a credible resource is never a good idea....

violetcrush said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ladygirl99 said:

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

So you join in April 2018 and "insiders" who are orgers are already orgnoting you about

the real reasons behind P's passing?

I have been here on and off since late 1998 when Ben the cool org owner used to be active on here and when this site was purple and black. I first joined in middle of Prince vs Wendy and Lisa drama when Wendy and Lisa told a magazine she and Lisa wrote Purple Rain after they released GirlBros and Prince responded on his NPG official website with Lendy or something like that. Gosh the beef lasted so long and so bad it spilled over the Google Groups (I believed some of the threads are still in archives over there?). That is the biggest battle I ever seen on here to date LOL. And yeah the fans had their crazy theories about Prince and Mayte because around that time they were seen less together publicly. I guess some of their theories of them not being together are true as they got divorced a couple years later.

I also I had this username ladygirl99 for over 10 years and I voluntarily deleted my account late last year because of retreat and wanted to get away from Prince-related sites because of the pain and luckily I rejoin with this username again thanks org mods or Ben? for able to get my username back again but yeah I hate that I am back as a new user. I wish the org was like Facebook to retrieve your old account even after you tried to deleted.

Just to let you know.

PeteSilas said:

maybe that fucker who made conspiratorial docus on kurt cobain could do one on prince. He did one on whitney too and it actually surprised me with how professional it was i think his name was michael bloomfield.

Oh lawd!!! Please don't give him or anyone else any ideas

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

Krystal - don't get me wrong - I've read many of the Biographies, all of his interviews, associates' interviews, and watched the documentaries while he was still here. Of course I've been fascinated about aspects of his life, especially the romances (you've seen my posts on that topic ) - Prince designed his life that way - he KNEW the public would be intrigued, interested, curious, etc. However, if I did not have those resources or "tidbits" about his personal life I still would have listened to, and purchased his music. My interest and support was not contingent upon finding out the private details of his life, and it certainly won't be now that he is gone.

I understand completely! You were not who I had in mind when I describing the blind fanatics, I was more just remembering in the past of some orgers posts and some Prince fans I have met in the past lol.

ladygirl99 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

IF you and others who are looking for more answers to Prince's death have REALLY assimilated the available info re his opiate use you would be able to discern a CLEAR BRIGHT LINE leading from opiate use to needing more and more to health declining, liver/GI tract compromised...weight loss...skin yellow...need more...need more...death. Where is the mystery???

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

I don't understand. What is the point of dozens of threads like this, if people aren't going to take anything concrete from them ? P had an opiate addiction problem. The only debate is how long he was taking them, and possible reasons why.

There was no terminal illness. Unless that is, some big post-mortem finding finally materializes which it won't. Although it is strange to think, with family and former associates getting such heat, how does the Medical Examiner get a free pass?! Was she not aware of his hometown hero status, and Minneapolis's gift to the world? I mean, terminal illess is quite a thing to occlude from public knowledge, when the story doing the rounds is how P is just another rock star junkie, high off his ass? Meanwhile he's squandering 65k on treating this largely asymptomatic, BUT terminal illness; that on reflection appears to be a few minor ailments for which he was prescribed medication. I should know. I am a doctor.

And so nothing has changed. The best you idol worshippers can do (and i'm not religious) is postulate/speculate that P took opiates for no other reason than bone pain. Yes?

That's not what i believe is the full story but at least that theory^ isn't 12+ failure level of STUPID.

[Edited 6/16/18 12:17pm]

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

maybe that fucker who made conspiratorial docus on kurt cobain could do one on prince. He did one on whitney too and it actually surprised me with how professional it was i think his name was michael bloomfield.

Oh lawd!!! Please don't give him or anyone else any ideas

i was actually impressed by the whitney docu, i watched it twice, no hocus pocus in that one and i was shocked that he did it, i didn't believe it at first because he seemed like a tabloid type of guy. It was actually excellent.

violetcrush said:

ladygirl99 said:

Well my idol isn't here to benefit my financial contributions so.....

But overall Paisley Park is doing fine so chill. Don't forget licensing too so if the Estate no longer makes money that is because of poor business skills more than fans not supporting it directly to the estate.

His legacy benefits from your contributions. PP will need the income to cover the expenses to keep it running into the future. There is only so much marketing that can be done with a musician who is no longer with us. Prince cannot tour to support the releases and/or help to maintain PP. Our financial contributions will do that.

LIke I said I did my part support Prince when he was alive and likely some of his money went to his family members and employees, already.

I am not a finance workhorse to no one. I picked and choose who I am going to invest and support based on my values and criteria.

The financial contributions is going to eventually has to come from new fans not his ageing fanbase. If the estate losing money then that is on them to fail to attract new audiences.

New fans are the key to keep his legacy alive. Or any legacies of people who are no longer with us on Earth. The estate is a fool if they expected the babyboomers and Gen-X (Prince main fanbase) always going to be there to financially keep the estate going. They should consider to reach out to Millennials and Gen Z too and market him as genderfluid damnit that would help be relatable to Gen Z who are into gender diversity.

Agree to disagree.

Is it just me or does the spirit of laura live on , like a little too close for comfort?

kinda cool that we got medical pros in here, what do you guys postulate was the illness? So far weve heard alzheimers, RA, leukemia,liver damage, aids. I really do think there was something else, it just makes no sense how any of those would be worse than another junkie rockstar for his legacy.

fortuneandserendipity said:

ladygirl99 said:

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

I don't understand. What is the point of dozens of threads like this, if people aren't going to take anything concrete from them ? P had an opiate addiction problem. The only debate is how long he was taking them, and possible reasons why.

There was no terminal illness. Unless that is, some big post-mortem finding finally materializes which it won't. Although it is strange to think, with family and former associates getting such heat, how does the Medical Examiner get a free pass?! Was she not aware of his hometown hero status, and Minneapolis's gift to the world? I mean, terminal illess is quite a thing to occlude from public knowledge, when the story doing the rounds is how P is just another rock star junkie, high off his ass? Meanwhile he's squandering 65k on treating this rather asymptomatic, but terminal illness; that on reflection appears to be a few minor ailments for which he was prescribed medication. I should know. I am a doctor.

And so nothing has changed. The best you idol worshippers can do (and i'm not religious) is postulate/speculate that P took opiates for no other reason than bone pain. Yes?

That's not what i believe is the full story but at least that theory^ isn't 12+ failure level of STUPID.

PeteSilas said:

violetcrush said:

Oh lawd!!! Please don't give him or anyone else any ideas

i was actually impressed by the whitney docu, i watched it twice, no hocus pocus in that one and i was shocked that he did it, i didn't believe it at first because he seemed like a tabloid type of guy. It was actually excellent.

Was there a conspiracy found? I did not watch it or read much detail

fortuneandserendipity said:

ladygirl99 said:

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

I don't understand. What is the point of dozens of threads like this, if people aren't going to take anything concrete from them ? P had an opiate addiction problem. The only debate is how long he was taking them, and possible reasons why.

There was no terminal illness. Unless that is, some big post-mortem finding finally materializes which it won't. Although it is strange to think, with family and former associates getting such heat, how does the Medical Examiner get a free pass?! Was she not aware of his hometown hero status, and Minneapolis's gift to the world? I mean, terminal illess is quite a thing to occlude from public knowledge, when the story doing the rounds is how P is just another rock star junkie, high off his ass? Meanwhile he's squandering 65k on treating this largely asymptomatic, BUT terminal illness; that on reflection appears to be a few minor ailments for which he was prescribed medication. I should know. I am a doctor.

And so nothing has changed. The best you idol worshippers can do (and i'm not religious) is postulate/speculate that P took opiates for no other reason than bone pain. Yes?

That's not what i believe is the full story but at least that theory^ isn't 12+ failure level of STUPID.

[Edited 6/16/18 12:17pm]

Being that you are a (I'm assuming) medical Doctor - can you share what you think may be the full story in terms of the Opiate use? I was inclined to believe it started as pain relief from the hip surgery and escalated from that point. Please share if you have additional thoughts as a trained medical professional.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Is it just me or does the spirit of laura live on , like a little too close for comfort?

No I am not Laura LOL if that you are implying. Laura and I had beefs and as a matter of fact she and I got at it in 2016 when she thought Prince died from just drug overdose and I told her from the beginning there is more to the story. I believed she came around too with the theory there is more to the story a few months later.

I also left the org last year because I complained to the mods of them not doing enough to disciplined her when she personal attacked me and other orgs and I got a warning too when I called Laura out. So instead of being banned, I quit the org last year. I told Laura too on here to chill out and she got a warning last year by a mod that if she didn't straight up she is gone and she just ignored the warnings so....

Yeah the org seems somewhat peaceful now and the orgers are older too and as I read she got banned and I mean she did got a lot of chances over the last 15 years or so to chill out ...

I am a big Wendy and Lisa fan and we got at it too on associated artists where I defended WL and Laura can't stand them especially the Melvoin sisters so...

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

i was actually impressed by the whitney docu, i watched it twice, no hocus pocus in that one and i was shocked that he did it, i didn't believe it at first because he seemed like a tabloid type of guy. It was actually excellent.

Was there a conspiracy found? I did not watch it or read much detail

in the broomfield docu? no, that's the amazing thing, he wasn't looking for conspiracies, he just did a straight up docu on the sad life and wasted talent of whitney. Heartbreaking really but it's a cliche pretty much, the rockstar who ostracizes anyone who challenges their self destruction, supports a million people, throws away some of the greatest gifts god ever gave to anyone just because they can it seems. Of course they mention the tragedy of her struggle with sexuality, her being wounded by her own people at the soul train awards and the putting her in a pop mold that hurt her spirit and the conclusion was all of it drove her to drugs. there is a new one coming out soon where it's revealed that whitney was molested by dee dee warwick.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Is it just me or does the spirit of laura live on , like a little too close for comfort?

uh ohh, you mentioned the name that should never be mentioned.

violetcrush said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I don't understand. What is the point of dozens of threads like this, if people aren't going to take anything concrete from them ? P had an opiate addiction problem. The only debate is how long he was taking them, and possible reasons why.

There was no terminal illness. Unless that is, some big post-mortem finding finally materializes which it won't. Although it is strange to think, with family and former associates getting such heat, how does the Medical Examiner get a free pass?! Was she not aware of his hometown hero status, and Minneapolis's gift to the world? I mean, terminal illess is quite a thing to occlude from public knowledge, when the story doing the rounds is how P is just another rock star junkie, high off his ass? Meanwhile he's squandering 65k on treating this largely asymptomatic, BUT terminal illness; that on reflection appears to be a few minor ailments for which he was prescribed medication. I should know. I am a doctor.

And so nothing has changed. The best you idol worshippers can do (and i'm not religious) is postulate/speculate that P took opiates for no other reason than bone pain. Yes?

That's not what i believe is the full story but at least that theory^ isn't 12+ failure level of STUPID.

[Edited 6/16/18 12:17pm]

Being that you are a (I'm assuming) medical Doctor - can you share what you think may be the full story in terms of the Opiate use? I was inclined to believe it started as pain relief from the hip surgery and escalated from that point. Please share if you have additional thoughts as a trained medical professional.

No problem violet. As with any drug there are risks involved, especially from multiple interactions where they contraindicate. An early problem with opiates is the body's tolerance builds up quickly, often within a few weeks. And taken very long term, obviously this can be very dangerous. Not only that, there are health risks from taking them over period of many years. The GI tract all the way up to the throat can be affected, and the various conditions occuring come under the umbrella of acidosis.

Gastrointestinal problems include the following: abdominal cramping or pain, burning sensation in the anus or rectum (careful with the enemas), diarrhea, ulcers, and spasms (assuming no evidence of retardation) lol.

Hope this helps.

fortuneandserendipity said:

ladygirl99 said:

It is not about looking for answers when people who gave clues and riddles that drug overdose is a red herring you are more likely demanding for answers. When people from Prince camp said over the last two years through interviews about Prince's health cryptic style, through left comments on blogs and online media sites (some even posted under their real names on Yahoo and TMZ sections and I refused to reveal those names I saw but they worked for Prince as a musician and non-music related jobs) that there is more to the story than a typical drug overdose that cause a serious of events, and leaked out to reputable LA-based blogs and magazines and some of the articles had since gone off the web, and told me through orgnotes and on Facebook (both people in the industry and people worked for Prince) specifically told me the public are being censored about what happened to Prince because the estate wanted to make as money as they can. And people leaked a lot of clues even on here two years ago about what ties to what I was told but also I learned new details from them too, then yes you are wondering for more info. But unless the family says something then don't be surprised of seeing a thread title on here said: Prince's Death Investigation Discussion-Continue Part 200? with going around the circles like a merry-go-around.

But hey if people want to continue to believe Prince was just another opioid addict without knowing why he took the drugs in the first place then that is their right too.

I don't understand. What is the point of dozens of threads like this, if people aren't going to take anything concrete from them ? P had an opiate addiction problem. The only debate is how long he was taking them, and possible reasons why.

There was no terminal illness. Unless that is, some big post-mortem finding finally materializes which it won't. Although it is strange to think, with family and former associates getting such heat, how does the Medical Examiner get a free pass?! Was she not aware of his hometown hero status, and Minneapolis's gift to the world? I mean, terminal illess is quite a thing to occlude from public knowledge, when the story doing the rounds is how P is just another rock star junkie, high off his ass? Meanwhile he's squandering 65k on treating this largely asymptomatic, BUT terminal illness; that on reflection appears to be a few minor ailments for which he was prescribed medication. I should know. I am a doctor.

And so nothing has changed. The best you idol worshippers can do (and i'm not religious) is postulate/speculate that P took opiates for no other reason than bone pain. Yes?

That's not what i believe is the full story but at least that theory^ isn't 12+ failure level of STUPID.

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We can't dismiss anything without seeing the full autopsy, doctor. In your field you should know this and keep ideas open, I hope. I am not that trustworthy with all the redacting going on. And also medical examiner I think she did her job but she also respect Minnesota law of how much can it be released to the public.

And yeah I came to terms of Prince had drug issues with those opioids but I also believed there is a whole lot more and fans are treating like infants to the estate of knowing further information.

I didn't create these death-related threads you have to take it up to the mods.